Re: No sound with new install

2012-04-03 Thread Nick White
Hi Keith,

On Mon, Apr 02, 2012 at 07:50:18PM +0100, Keith McKenzie wrote:
 Download the latest alsa-driver package from alsa-project.org.

I did this, then installed linux-headers, and did
./configure  make  sudo make install

After rebooting, whatdya know, it works! Horrah!

Thanks a lot everybody for helping me to track down the issue.

There are a couple of questions I have left:

Firstly, should I ask the backports project to backport the new
version of alsa-drivers?  Are there any guidelines on what criteria
they use to decide what to backport? Obviously it would be nicer to
use distro-provided packages of some description, for security
updates, no problems between kernel versions, etc.

Secondly, I checked what the Realtek driver was, as listed on
http://wiki.debian.org/ALSA#Alternative_Method, and it turns out it's
just a repackaged copy of the alsa-driver tarball from
http://alsa-project.org. So it probably makes sense to update the
wiki to make the alternative method roughly just download the
upstream alsa-driver tarball, make it, and restart. Can anyone edit
the wiki? Are there people 'responsible' for certain pages who
should be consulted before changing stuff?

Thanks again folks, very much.

Nick


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Re: No sound with new install

2012-04-03 Thread Chris Bannister
On Mon, Apr 02, 2012 at 12:56:57PM +0100, Nick White wrote:
 On Mon, Apr 02, 2012 at 07:25:10AM -0400, Tom Ashley wrote:
  I spent the last 2 days trying to resolve this same issue on a new
  motherboard.  The alternative method from http://wiki.debian.org/ALSA
  worked for me.
 
 Thanks for the tip. However, I'd really like to get this working
 using a stock kernel with stock modules if possible, to ease
 upgrading etc. Also I don't know what license that kernel module is,
 and I generally hate the idea of loading unknown modules into my
 system. And ALSO I have no idea whether the audio board is realtek.

You could *at least try* the suggestions offered. That will prove at least
whether you have a hardware fault or if your board is just to new for
the current alsa.

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No sound with new install

2012-04-02 Thread Nick White
Hi debian folks,

I installed Debian last week (for the first time), and things
generally went very nicely.

One thing which isn't yet working though is sound. I'm currently
using the kernel from debian-backports
(linux-image-3.2.0-0.bpo.2-amd64) in order to get my ethernet
working, but the same thing happenned with the stock 2.6 kernel too
(linux-image-2.6.32-5-amd64)

Any suggestions at all of things to try would be most appreciated.
Below is hopefully relevant output from interesting commands.

Many thanks,

Nick


'alsactl init' returns the following:
Unknown hardware: HDA-Intel Realtek ALC887-VD 
HDA:10ec0887,1458a002,00100302 0x1458 0xa002
Hardware is initialized using a guess method
/usr/share/alsa/init/default:26: control element not found
/usr/share/alsa/init/default:26: control element not found
/usr/share/alsa/init/default:41: control element not found

'alsamixer' fails with:
cannot load mixer controls: Invalid argument

the relevant part of 'lspci -knnvv':
00:1b.0 Audio device [0403]: Intel Corporation Cougar Point High Definition 
Audio Controller [8086:1c20] (rev 04)
Subsystem: Giga-byte Technology Device [1458:a002]
Control: I/O- Mem+ BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop- ParErr- 
Stepping- SERR- FastB2B- DisINTx+
Status: Cap+ 66MHz- UDF- FastB2B- ParErr- DEVSEL=fast TAbort- TAbort- 
MAbort- SERR- PERR- INTx-
Latency: 0, Cache Line Size: 64 bytes
Interrupt: pin A routed to IRQ 41
Region 0: Memory at f7d0 (64-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=16K]
Capabilities: [50] Power Management version 2
Flags: PMEClk- DSI- D1- D2- AuxCurrent=55mA 
PME(D0+,D1-,D2-,D3hot+,D3cold+)
Status: D0 NoSoftRst- PME-Enable- DSel=0 DScale=0 PME-
Capabilities: [60] MSI: Enable+ Count=1/1 Maskable- 64bit+
Address: fee0300c  Data: 4171
Capabilities: [70] Express (v1) Root Complex Integrated Endpoint, MSI 00
DevCap: MaxPayload 128 bytes, PhantFunc 0, Latency L0s 64ns, 
L1 1us
ExtTag- RBE- FLReset+
DevCtl: Report errors: Correctable- Non-Fatal- Fatal- 
Unsupported-
RlxdOrd- ExtTag- PhantFunc- AuxPwr- NoSnoop-
MaxPayload 128 bytes, MaxReadReq 128 bytes
DevSta: CorrErr- UncorrErr- FatalErr- UnsuppReq- AuxPwr+ 
TransPend-
LnkCap: Port #0, Speed unknown, Width x0, ASPM unknown, Latency 
L0 64ns, L1 1us
ClockPM- Surprise- LLActRep- BwNot-
LnkCtl: ASPM Disabled; Disabled- Retrain- CommClk-
ExtSynch- ClockPM- AutWidDis- BWInt- AutBWInt-
LnkSta: Speed unknown, Width x0, TrErr- Train- SlotClk- 
DLActive- BWMgmt- ABWMgmt-
Capabilities: [100 v1] Virtual Channel
Caps:   LPEVC=0 RefClk=100ns PATEntryBits=1
Arb:Fixed- WRR32- WRR64- WRR128-
Ctrl:   ArbSelect=Fixed
Status: InProgress-
VC0:Caps:   PATOffset=00 MaxTimeSlots=1 RejSnoopTrans-
Arb:Fixed- WRR32- WRR64- WRR128- TWRR128- WRR256-
Ctrl:   Enable+ ID=0 ArbSelect=Fixed TC/VC=01
Status: NegoPending- InProgress-
VC1:Caps:   PATOffset=00 MaxTimeSlots=1 RejSnoopTrans-
Arb:Fixed- WRR32- WRR64- WRR128- TWRR128- WRR256-
Ctrl:   Enable+ ID=1 ArbSelect=Fixed TC/VC=22
Status: NegoPending- InProgress-
Capabilities: [130 v1] Root Complex Link
Desc:   PortNumber=0f ComponentID=00 EltType=Config
Link0:  Desc:   TargetPort=00 TargetComponent=00 AssocRCRB- 
LinkType=MemMapped LinkValid+
Addr:   fed1c000
Kernel driver in use: snd_hda_intel

'lsmod|grep snd' output:
snd_hda_codec_realtek   188417  1 
snd_hda_intel  26023  0 
snd_hda_codec  81579  2 snd_hda_codec_realtek,snd_hda_intel
snd_hwdep  13148  1 snd_hda_codec
snd_pcm67465  2 snd_hda_intel,snd_hda_codec
snd_seq44678  0 
snd_timer  22658  2 snd_pcm,snd_seq
snd_seq_device 13155  1 snd_seq
snd52458  8 
snd_hda_codec_realtek,snd_hda_intel,snd_hda_codec,snd_hwdep,snd_pcm,snd_seq,
snd_timer,snd_seq_device
soundcore  13014  1 snd
snd_page_alloc 12969  2 snd_hda_intel,snd_pcm


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Re: No sound with new install

2012-04-02 Thread Mika Suomalainen
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Hi,

On 02.04.2012 12:49, Nick White wrote:
 Hi debian folks,
 
 I installed Debian last week (for the first time), and things 
 generally went very nicely.
 
 One thing which isn't yet working though is sound. I'm currently 
 using the kernel from debian-backports 
 (linux-image-3.2.0-0.bpo.2-amd64) in order to get my ethernet 
 working, but the same thing happenned with the stock 2.6 kernel
 too (linux-image-2.6.32-5-amd64)
 
 Any suggestions at all of things to try would be most appreciated.

Try installing Pulseaudio. It has fixed same issue for me.

...

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Re: No sound with new install

2012-04-02 Thread Nick White
On Mon, Apr 02, 2012 at 01:14:44PM +0300, Mika Suomalainen wrote:
 On 02.04.2012 12:49, Nick White wrote:
  One thing which isn't yet working though is sound.
 
 Try installing Pulseaudio. It has fixed same issue for me.

Didn't help, unfortunately. Unsuprisingly, given that even alsamixer
and friends didn't succeed.

Thanks for the thought, though.


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Re: No sound with new install

2012-04-02 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Lu, 02 apr 12, 13:14:44, Mika Suomalainen wrote:
 
 Try installing Pulseaudio. It has fixed same issue for me.

At this point I'd rather not add another variable.

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Re: No sound with new install

2012-04-02 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Lu, 02 apr 12, 10:49:05, Nick White wrote:
 
 'alsactl init' returns the following:
 Unknown hardware: HDA-Intel Realtek ALC887-VD 
 HDA:10ec0887,1458a002,00100302 0x1458 0xa002
 Hardware is initialized using a guess method

This is not very encouraging (given that you are already using a fairly 
new kernel), am I correct to assume this is a (very) new board?

Please also add output of:

aplay -l
aplay -L
cat /proc/asound/cards

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Re: No sound with new install

2012-04-02 Thread Nick White
On Mon, Apr 02, 2012 at 01:48:21PM +0300, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
 This is not very encouraging (given that you are already using a fairly 
 new kernel), am I correct to assume this is a (very) new board?

Yes, likely. It's a new PC, so could well be.

 Please also add output of:

'aplay -l' output:
 List of PLAYBACK Hardware Devices 
card 0: PCH [HDA Intel PCH], device 0: ALC887-VD Analog [ALC887-VD Analog]
  Subdevices: 1/1
  Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
card 0: PCH [HDA Intel PCH], device 1: ALC887-VD Digital [ALC887-VD Digital]
  Subdevices: 1/1
  Subdevice #0: subdevice #0

'aplay -L' output:
null
Discard all samples (playback) or generate zero samples (capture)
default:CARD=PCH
HDA Intel PCH, ALC887-VD Analog
Default Audio Device
front:CARD=PCH,DEV=0
HDA Intel PCH, ALC887-VD Analog
Front speakers
surround40:CARD=PCH,DEV=0
HDA Intel PCH, ALC887-VD Analog
4.0 Surround output to Front and Rear speakers
surround41:CARD=PCH,DEV=0
HDA Intel PCH, ALC887-VD Analog
4.1 Surround output to Front, Rear and Subwoofer speakers
surround50:CARD=PCH,DEV=0
HDA Intel PCH, ALC887-VD Analog
5.0 Surround output to Front, Center and Rear speakers
surround51:CARD=PCH,DEV=0
HDA Intel PCH, ALC887-VD Analog
5.1 Surround output to Front, Center, Rear and Subwoofer speakers
surround71:CARD=PCH,DEV=0
HDA Intel PCH, ALC887-VD Analog
7.1 Surround output to Front, Center, Side, Rear and Woofer speakers
iec958:CARD=PCH,DEV=0
HDA Intel PCH, ALC887-VD Digital
IEC958 (S/PDIF) Digital Audio Output

'cat /proc/asound/cards' output:
 0 [PCH]: HDA-Intel - HDA Intel PCH
  HDA Intel PCH at 0xf7d0 irq 41


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Re: No sound with new install

2012-04-02 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Lu, 02 apr 12, 11:57:57, Nick White wrote:
 On Mon, Apr 02, 2012 at 01:48:21PM +0300, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
  This is not very encouraging (given that you are already using a fairly 
  new kernel), am I correct to assume this is a (very) new board?
 
 Yes, likely. It's a new PC, so could well be.
 
  Please also add output of:

[snip]

Ok, this all looks good. Please make sure that you turn off any program 
that may produce sounds[1] and try as root *and* as user:

speaker-test -c2

You should hear hissing (pink) noise alternating from the left and right 
speaker. Use Ctrl+C to interrupt and post error messages here (if any).

[1] including but not limited to music/video players, browsers, or even 
the entire desktop environment. To be 100% safe you should probably boot 
in recovery mode...

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Re: No sound with new install

2012-04-02 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Lu, 02 apr 12, 10:49:05, Nick White wrote:
 
 'alsamixer' fails with:
 cannot load mixer controls: Invalid argument

What about 'amixer'?

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Re: No sound with new install

2012-04-02 Thread Raffaele Morelli
2012/4/2 Nick White nick.wh...@durham.ac.uk

 On Mon, Apr 02, 2012 at 01:48:21PM +0300, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
  This is not very encouraging (given that you are already using a fairly
  new kernel), am I correct to assume this is a (very) new board?

 Yes, likely. It's a new PC, so could well be.

  Please also add output of:

 'aplay -l' output:
  List of PLAYBACK Hardware Devices 
 card 0: PCH [HDA Intel PCH], device 0: ALC887-VD Analog [ALC887-VD Analog]


Have a look at  /usr/share/doc/alsa-base/driver/
there are lots of info about hd models (install alsa-base if you don't)

look for your souncard model infod in the relevant files and the specify
your model in /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf using

options snd-hda-intel model=MODEL

regards
-r


Re: No sound with new install

2012-04-02 Thread Nick White
On Mon, Apr 02, 2012 at 02:06:40PM +0300, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
 What about 'amixer'?

amixer: Mixer default load error: Invalid argument


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Re: No sound with new install

2012-04-02 Thread Tom Ashley
On Mon, 2 Apr 2012 11:57:57 +0100
Nick White nick.wh...@durham.ac.uk wrote:

 On Mon, Apr 02, 2012 at 01:48:21PM +0300, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
  This is not very encouraging (given that you are already using a
  fairly new kernel), am I correct to assume this is a (very) new
  board?
 
 Yes, likely. It's a new PC, so could well be.
 
  Please also add output of:
 
 'aplay -l' output:
  List of PLAYBACK Hardware Devices 
 card 0: PCH [HDA Intel PCH], device 0: ALC887-VD Analog [ALC887-VD
 Analog] Subdevices: 1/1
   Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
 card 0: PCH [HDA Intel PCH], device 1: ALC887-VD Digital [ALC887-VD
 Digital] Subdevices: 1/1
   Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
 
 'aplay -L' output:
 null
 Discard all samples (playback) or generate zero samples (capture)
 default:CARD=PCH
 HDA Intel PCH, ALC887-VD Analog
 Default Audio Device
 front:CARD=PCH,DEV=0
 HDA Intel PCH, ALC887-VD Analog
 Front speakers
 surround40:CARD=PCH,DEV=0
 HDA Intel PCH, ALC887-VD Analog
 4.0 Surround output to Front and Rear speakers
 surround41:CARD=PCH,DEV=0
 HDA Intel PCH, ALC887-VD Analog
 4.1 Surround output to Front, Rear and Subwoofer speakers
 surround50:CARD=PCH,DEV=0
 HDA Intel PCH, ALC887-VD Analog
 5.0 Surround output to Front, Center and Rear speakers
 surround51:CARD=PCH,DEV=0
 HDA Intel PCH, ALC887-VD Analog
 5.1 Surround output to Front, Center, Rear and Subwoofer speakers
 surround71:CARD=PCH,DEV=0
 HDA Intel PCH, ALC887-VD Analog
 7.1 Surround output to Front, Center, Side, Rear and Woofer
 speakers iec958:CARD=PCH,DEV=0
 HDA Intel PCH, ALC887-VD Digital
 IEC958 (S/PDIF) Digital Audio Output
 
 'cat /proc/asound/cards' output:
  0 [PCH]: HDA-Intel - HDA Intel PCH
   HDA Intel PCH at 0xf7d0 irq 41
 
 

I spent the last 2 days trying to resolve this same issue on a new
motherboard.  The alternative method from http://wiki.debian.org/ALSA
worked for me.

HTH

Tom Ashley


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Re: No sound with new install

2012-04-02 Thread Nick White
On Mon, Apr 02, 2012 at 02:05:31PM +0300, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
 Ok, this all looks good. Please make sure that you turn off any program 
 that may produce sounds[1] and try as root *and* as user:
 
 speaker-test -c2
 
 You should hear hissing (pink) noise alternating from the left and right 
 speaker. Use Ctrl+C to interrupt and post error messages here (if any).

Sadly I don't hear anything at all. I closed everything including X,
so am pretty confident nothing was stealing the soundcard. Also no
error messages; the speaker test continued happily sending pink
noise nowhere.

Thanks for your help so far, Andrei!


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Re: No sound with new install

2012-04-02 Thread Nick White
On Mon, Apr 02, 2012 at 07:25:10AM -0400, Tom Ashley wrote:
 I spent the last 2 days trying to resolve this same issue on a new
 motherboard.  The alternative method from http://wiki.debian.org/ALSA
 worked for me.

Thanks for the tip. However, I'd really like to get this working
using a stock kernel with stock modules if possible, to ease
upgrading etc. Also I don't know what license that kernel module is,
and I generally hate the idea of loading unknown modules into my
system. And ALSO I have no idea whether the audio board is realtek.


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Re: No sound with new install

2012-04-02 Thread Nick White
On Mon, Apr 02, 2012 at 01:16:12PM +0200, Raffaele Morelli wrote:
 Have a look at  /usr/share/doc/alsa-base/driver/
 there are lots of info about hd models (install alsa-base if you don't)
 
 look for your souncard model infod in the relevant files and the specify
 your model in /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf using
 
 options snd-hda-intel model=MODEL

Thanks Raffaele. Is there a good way of finding out the model of
soundcard in my computer, without taking the case off (possible, but
not ideal)?


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Re: No sound with new install

2012-04-02 Thread Raffaele Morelli
2012/4/2 Nick White nick.wh...@durham.ac.uk

 On Mon, Apr 02, 2012 at 01:16:12PM +0200, Raffaele Morelli wrote:
  Have a look at  /usr/share/doc/alsa-base/driver/
  there are lots of info about hd models (install alsa-base if you don't)
 
  look for your souncard model infod in the relevant files and the specify
  your model in /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf using
 
  options snd-hda-intel model=MODEL

 Thanks Raffaele. Is there a good way of finding out the model of
 soundcard in my computer, without taking the case off (possible, but
 not ideal)?


well, as showed from aplay -l your model is : ALC887-VD
`cd /usr/share/doc/alsa-base/driver` and `gunzip HD-Audio-Models.txt.gz`

open HD-Audio-Models.txt with your favourite text editor/viewer, rows
[128..153] they seems to match your model (-VD apart), have a try according
to your computer and/or souncard and/or board

I see your card has an spdif so I would guess one of

3stack-dig
6stack-dig
3stack-6ch-dig
3stack-6ch-intel

remember to reload alsa after each change (service alsa-utils restart)


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Re: No sound with new install

2012-04-02 Thread Jens-Michael Hoffmann
Am Montag, 2. April 2012, 11:49:05 schrieb Nick White:
 Hi debian folks,
 
 I installed Debian last week (for the first time), and things
 generally went very nicely.
 
 One thing which isn't yet working though is sound. I'm currently
 using the kernel from debian-backports
 (linux-image-3.2.0-0.bpo.2-amd64) in order to get my ethernet
 working, but the same thing happenned with the stock 2.6 kernel too
 (linux-image-2.6.32-5-amd64)

I've got the same issue on sid. At the moment I'm working around it by killing 
pulseaudio after booting. When it then autimatically restarts, sound is 
working for me.


kind regards,
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Re: No sound with new install

2012-04-02 Thread Nick White
On Mon, Apr 02, 2012 at 02:29:56PM +0200, Raffaele Morelli wrote:
 well, as showed from aplay -l your model is : ALC887-VD
 `cd /usr/share/doc/alsa-base/driver` and `gunzip HD-Audio-Models.txt.gz`
 
 open HD-Audio-Models.txt with your favourite text editor/viewer, rows
 [128..153] they seems to match your model (-VD apart), have a try according
 to your computer and/or souncard and/or board
 
 I see your card has an spdif so I would guess one of
 
 3stack-dig
 6stack-dig
 3stack-6ch-dig
 3stack-6ch-intel
 
 remember to reload alsa after each change (service alsa-utils restart)

Thanks alot for the clear advice. Unfortunately none of those made a
jot of difference, and nor did trying the other most obvious
candidates from the models list.

I found the motherboard model this soundcard is attached to online;
http://www.gigabyte.tw/products/product-page.aspx?pid=4091#sp - and
it does indeed list it as a Realtek ALC887 High Definition Audio
device.

I suppose I could try the external Realtek driver pointed to from
the 'Alternative Method' section of the Alsa wiki page, but as I
mentioned earlier I'd far rather find a proper solution to the
problem (particularly because I want to use a fully mainline or
debian-maintained kernel).

Anybody have any other suggestions?


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Re: No sound with new install

2012-04-02 Thread Nick White
On Mon, Apr 02, 2012 at 04:16:28PM +0200, Jens-Michael Hoffmann wrote:
 I've got the same issue on sid. At the moment I'm working around it by 
 killing 
 pulseaudio after booting. When it then autimatically restarts, sound is 
 working for me.

Hi Jens-Michael,

That doesn't sound like the same issue that I'm reporting at all,
actually (read further messages in the thread for more details of my
problems).

Maybe you should start a new thread for your problem, or open a bug?

Nick


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Re: No sound with new install

2012-04-02 Thread Lorenzo Sutton

On 02/04/12 11:49, Nick White wrote:

Hi debian folks,

I installed Debian last week (for the first time), and things
generally went very nicely.

One thing which isn't yet working though is sound. I'm currently
using the kernel from debian-backports
(linux-image-3.2.0-0.bpo.2-amd64) in order to get my ethernet
working, but the same thing happenned with the stock 2.6 kernel too
(linux-image-2.6.32-5-amd64)

Any suggestions at all of things to try would be most appreciated.
Below is hopefully relevant output from interesting commands.

Ok.. I know these may sound really naive... but with the integrated 
audio thingies sometimes audio is really troublesome to set up even if 
everything is working correctly, so:


- Are you 100% sure you have plugged your headphones/speakers in the 
right output. This may seem funny but here e.g. I have front and rear 
headphone jack and these are selectable from the alsamixer. I've seen 
situations in which only one worked so you should try the combinations.
- On the same line try playing with levels and switches in (alsa)mixer 
(or some other gui version) .. I have seen that sometimes when I 
upgrade, for some unpredictable reason the PCM volume is turned down to 
0 (PCM is basically all the audio you'll get from applications).


You would be surprised to know how many times I wasted time debugging 
audio problems at the driver level and the issue was actually in the 
(alsa) mixer, cables, plugs etc.


Good luck!
Lorenzo.


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Re: No sound with new install

2012-04-02 Thread David Baron
Those Realtek/intel on-board soundards have a problem with 3.2 kernels. Some 
things work, some things do not.

Two new controls were added: speaker and headphone (so I was informed in a 
similar thread a few weeks ago when the problem surfaced on my machine). The 
speaker control does not show up at all. The headphone control will show on 
asla-mixers and qasmixe but NOT on kmix. Headphone must be enabled to get 
sound. Media through browsers still does not work but other playback MAY. 
(BTW: Headphones pugged into the interface do not work.)

As of 3.1 kernels and onwards, direct line input to this interface also does 
not work (maybe a hardware problem by me?). I had another card plugged in to 
that. I have to go through jack and alsa_out to work around this problem.


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Re: No sound with new install

2012-04-02 Thread Nick White
On Mon, Apr 02, 2012 at 04:53:58PM +0200, Lorenzo Sutton wrote:
 Ok.. I know these may sound really naive... but with the integrated
 audio thingies sometimes audio is really troublesome to set up even
 if everything is working correctly, so:
 
 - Are you 100% sure you have plugged your headphones/speakers in the
 right output. This may seem funny but here e.g. I have front and
 rear headphone jack and these are selectable from the alsamixer.
 I've seen situations in which only one worked so you should try the
 combinations.

Yeah, those are good thoughts. I haven't actually heard sound from
the PC yet (it's new, and didn't come with an OS), so plan to load
up a few live CDs to check whether things work better there, and to
more closely rule out hardward issues. I have tried plugging my
speakers into everywhere, though, so think it's unlikely to be the
issue here (and checked that audio was enabled in my bios).

 - On the same line try playing with levels and switches in
 (alsa)mixer (or some other gui version) .. I have seen that
 sometimes when I upgrade, for some unpredictable reason the PCM
 volume is turned down to 0 (PCM is basically all the audio you'll
 get from applications).

As alsamixer and related applications all don't start due to an
error at the moment I can't do this, and it implies that it's more
than just a little configuration thing sadly.

 You would be surprised to know how many times I wasted time
 debugging audio problems at the driver level and the issue was
 actually in the (alsa) mixer, cables, plugs etc.

I really hope I don't find out that it's something stupid like that
in this case! Doesn't seem to be, I think.

Thanks.


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Re: No sound with new install

2012-04-02 Thread Morten Bo Johansen
Nick White nick.wh...@durham.ac.uk wrote:

 I installed Debian last week (for the first time), and things
 generally went very nicely.
 One thing which isn't yet working though is sound.

I did an installation of a Wheezy-system about a month ago and ran into
the same problem: No sound. I did not take notes as to how I got sound
working (I am rather impatient with these kind of problems), but to my
recollection, it ran along these lines:

At some point (not during the installation but later) I got an error
message informing me that the file:

   /usr/share/alsa/pulse-alsa.conf
   
was obsolete (or something to that effect), I then renamed the file:
   
   $ sudo mv /usr/share/alsa/pulse-alsa.conf /usr/share/alsa/pulse-alsa.conf.org

and thereafter I did:

   $ sudo /etc/init.d/alsa-utils restart

and actually I think that solved my problem at that point. You could try
renaming or deleting the above mentioned file and see if it does not help
you.

However, sometime later, sound once again stopped working (for whatever
reason I do not know). I then proceeded to delete all packages related to
pulseaudio, leaving me with only alsa sound packages.

I ran:

   $ aplay -l   
    List of PLAYBACK Hardware Devices 
   card 1: Aureon51MkII [Aureon5.1MkII], device 0: USB Audio [USB Audio]

to find out what number my sound card had (it was number '1').
I then put these two lines into $HOME/.asoundrc:

   defaults.pcm.card 1
   defaults.ctl.card 1

(you should replace '1' with '0' in the above two lines)

and then

   $ sudo /etc/init.d/alsa-utils restart

and bingo, sound has worked for me ever since.

I do not know if it will solve your problem, as it seems you have other
issues, but try it and then run the speaker test mentioned elsewhere in
this thread.

Obviously your sound cards output channel must not be muted. You open it
up with a sound mixer, but I did note that you could not run that. Try
and google for the error message that you got in regard.

Regards,
Morten


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Re: No sound with new install

2012-04-02 Thread Keith McKenzie

On 02/04/12 15:44, Nick White wrote:

Anybody have any other suggestions?


When I installed Squeeze 6.0.3/4 onto my newish HP G62 laptop, I had no 
sound. I was given this advice by someone, (I'm afraid I can't remember 
who), from Linuxquestions - Debian forum:-


Download the latest alsa-driver package from alsa-project.org.

Install linux-source-?  linux-headers-?,  also binutils needed.
(? = kernel patch numbers)

Configure it with:-

./configure --with-debug=full--enable-dynamic-minors \
--with-moddir=updates (all one line)

make  make install

Rebooted  had sound!


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