Re: Nvidia package installation problems

2013-12-27 Thread Brad Rogers
On Wed, 25 Dec 2013 21:09:35 + (UTC)
Jarth Berilcosm  wrote:

Hello Jarth,

>Yeah, i lost focus due to frustrations and wrote down an incorrect 
>pathname. Should have had some tea much sooner ;-)

Tea?  How very British of you.   :-D

>What i've figured so far is nomodeset is mostly required by older 
>hardware, this is an "NVIDIA Corporation G86M [Quadro FX 360M]"

In which case, it may not have much effect with my GFX card, being a
8?00

>I wrote a guide on my experience.

Yes, I read it.  Quite interesting.

>Right now, i hope I have not been deluding myself but at least it's a 
>stable delusion so far :-)

:-)

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Re: Nvidia package installation problems

2013-12-25 Thread Jarth Berilcosm
On Wed, 25 Dec 2013 08:46:21 +, Brad Rogers wrote:

> On Wed, 25 Dec 2013 00:17:17 + (UTC)
> Jarth Berilcosm  wrote:
> 
> Hello Jarth,
> 
>>Honestly, i don't know what's going with Debian lately. Wheezy looked
>>promising and has been quite a dissapointment when it comes to package
>>quality.
> 
> It's strange, isn't it;  I've not had any problems at all.  Admittedly,
> I'm not using Wheezy (I am always on 'testing'), but even so maybe you'd
> expect an issue or two.
> 
>>Golden hint include nomodeset in /etc/default/grub on the line
>>GRUB_CMD_LINE_DEFAULT="quiet splash nomodeset"
> 
> No "nomodeset" here, and everything seems fine.  Of course, I could set
> it and see what changes/improvements it makes.
> 
>>Make sure in /etc/modprobe.conf.d/nvidia.. there is a line stating
>>blacklist nouveau
> 
> Surely you mean '/etc/modprobe.d/' not '/etc/modprobe.conf.d/'?  The
> latter doesn't exist here.

Hi Brad,

Yeah, i lost focus due to frustrations and wrote down an incorrect 
pathname. Should have had some tea much sooner ;-)

What i've figured so far is nomodeset is mostly required by older 
hardware, this is an "NVIDIA Corporation G86M [Quadro FX 360M]" graphics 
card which is quite old. Almost unsupported.

My system logs were littered with segfault errors on gnome-shell and quite 
a few other programs. Since late last night there are no segfault errors 
anymore, it means I've done something right ;-) My system was left 
running for hours today with a few segfault sensitive applications 
running, no errors whatsoever, hurray.

I wrote a guide on my experience.

 http://www.oxitech.info/helpdesk/nvidia.html 

Right now, i hope I have not been deluding myself but at least it's a 
stable delusion so far :-)



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Re: Nvidia package installation problems

2013-12-25 Thread Brad Rogers
On Tue, 24 Dec 2013 10:02:42 -0500
Jon N  wrote:

Hello Jon,

>it got left over.  The nvidia driver offered to register with it for
>automatic updates.  So I still get the main reason for changing.

Good to hear your system is working properly again.  A good catch on the
Xorg nouveau call.  I'd have not thought of it.

>Thanks for all your help,

You're welcome.

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Re: Nvidia package installation problems

2013-12-25 Thread Brad Rogers
On Wed, 25 Dec 2013 00:17:17 + (UTC)
Jarth Berilcosm  wrote:

Hello Jarth,

>Honestly, i don't know what's going with Debian lately. Wheezy looked 
>promising and has been quite a dissapointment when it comes to package 
>quality.

It's strange, isn't it;  I've not had any problems at all.  Admittedly,
I'm not using Wheezy (I am always on 'testing'), but even so maybe you'd
expect an issue or two.

>Golden hint include nomodeset in /etc/default/grub on the line 
>GRUB_CMD_LINE_DEFAULT="quiet splash nomodeset"

No "nomodeset" here, and everything seems fine.  Of course, I could set
it and see what changes/improvements it makes.

>Make sure in /etc/modprobe.conf.d/nvidia.. there is a line stating 
>blacklist nouveau

Surely you mean '/etc/modprobe.d/' not '/etc/modprobe.conf.d/'?  The
latter doesn't exist here.

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Re: Nvidia package installation problems

2013-12-24 Thread Jarth Berilcosm
Hi,

I've ran into the same issues on an old NVidia Quadro FX 360M.

Honestly, i don't know what's going with Debian lately. Wheezy looked 
promising and has been quite a dissapointment when it comes to package 
quality.

Golden hint include nomodeset in /etc/default/grub on the line 
GRUB_CMD_LINE_DEFAULT="quiet splash nomodeset"

This will greatly improve the speed and stability of your system.

Make sure in /etc/modprobe.conf.d/nvidia.. there is a line stating 
blacklist nouveau

What i've done is to download the latest nvidia driver ( long life version 
) and run the installer, make sure to remove ANY debian nvidia packages.

So far i had to ditch gdm as login manager as it crashed and crashed, 
using lightdm now.

J. 

On Tue, 24 Dec 2013 10:02:42 -0500, Jon N wrote:

> On Mon, Dec 23, 2013 at 11:37 AM, Brad Rogers  wrote:
> 
> <---snip--->
> 
>>>have any trouble doing that.  But I don't want to have a package from
>>>repository still installed at the same time as the nvidia download.
>>
>> There are problems with that as you can imagine.  Debian packages can
>> get confused by a previous nvidia installation.  I don't know whether
>> the same is true the other way round, but better safe than sorry.
>>
>> I include here a list of all nvidia specific packages I have installed,
>> for the sake of comparison with your own list:
>>
>> glx-alternative-nvidia_0.4.1 libgl1-nvidia-glx_319.76-1
>> libnvidia-ml1_319.76-1 libvdpau1_0.7-1 libxnvctrl0_319.72-1
>> libxnvctrl0_319.72-1 libxnvctrl0_319.72-1 nvidia-driver_319.76-1
>> nvidia-kernel-dkms_319.76-1 nvidia-settings_319.72-1
>> nvidia-alternative_319.76-1 nvidia-xconfig_319.72-1
>> nvidia-installer-cleanup_20131102+1 *
>> nvidia-kernel-common_20131102+1 nvidia-kernel-source_319.76-1
>> nvidia-support_20131102+1 xserver-xorg-video-nouveau_1.0.10-1
>> xserver-xorg-video-nvidia_319.76-1
>>
>> * handy for ensuring the nvidia downloaded module stuff doesn't
>>   conflict with the Debian packages.
> 
> Before I gave up I ran 'dpkg-reconfigure with each package name above
> hoping that fix something, or at least generate an error message that
> would give some clue.  But, no luck.  So I uninstalled it all and
> rebooted.  My desktop came up fine with (I think) the vesa driver.
> 
> But, I often watch HD shows through MythTV, which didn't work well at
> all with the vesa driver, nor with the nouveau driver.  So, back to the
> downloaded nvidia driver.  Which had the exact same problem as the
> nvidia package loaded through the repository, X would not load.  Ouch, I
> hadn't expected that.
> 
> Poking around again I noticed a line in Xorg.0.log:
> 
> "Kernel command line: BOOT_IMAGE+/vmlinux-3.11.-2-686-pae
> root=/dev/mapper/MyVG-root_LV ro nomodeset nouveau.modeset=0"
> 
> I did notice that earlier, but wasn't worried about nouveau being in
> there because it's blacklisted.  But with these continuing problems I
> guess it's worth looking into.  I edited it out in /etc/defaults/grub
> and ran 'update-grub'.  That was it!  I am really puzzled how it got
> there.  It seem strange to me that uninstalling the downloaded nvidia
> drivers (which is the first thing I did when this all started) would add
> that.  None of the 'grub.*' files in /etc/defaults was newer than 2012,
> but it was in there, suggesting it was always in the command line.  So
> why was it a problem now???  As usual, I figure I must have missed
> something, or done something dumb.  But, at least it works!
> 
> Oh, and one of my reasons for changing in the first place was to have
> the driver automatically configured for each new kernel update that was
> installed.  Apparently I did not have 'dkms' installed before, but it
> got left over.  The nvidia driver offered to register with it for
> automatic updates.  So I still get the main reason for changing.
> 
> Thanks for all your help,
> Jon



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Re: Nvidia package installation problems

2013-12-24 Thread Jon N
On Mon, Dec 23, 2013 at 11:37 AM, Brad Rogers  wrote:

<---snip--->

>>have any trouble doing that.  But I don't want to have a package from
>>repository still installed at the same time as the nvidia download.
>
> There are problems with that as you can imagine.  Debian packages can
> get confused by a previous nvidia installation.  I don't know whether
> the same is true the other way round, but better safe than sorry.
>
> I include here a list of all nvidia specific packages I have installed,
> for the sake of comparison with your own list:
>
> glx-alternative-nvidia_0.4.1
> libgl1-nvidia-glx_319.76-1
> libnvidia-ml1_319.76-1
> libvdpau1_0.7-1
> libxnvctrl0_319.72-1
> libxnvctrl0_319.72-1
> libxnvctrl0_319.72-1
> nvidia-driver_319.76-1
> nvidia-kernel-dkms_319.76-1
> nvidia-settings_319.72-1
> nvidia-alternative_319.76-1
> nvidia-xconfig_319.72-1
> nvidia-installer-cleanup_20131102+1 *
> nvidia-kernel-common_20131102+1
> nvidia-kernel-source_319.76-1
> nvidia-support_20131102+1
> xserver-xorg-video-nouveau_1.0.10-1
> xserver-xorg-video-nvidia_319.76-1
>
> * handy for ensuring the nvidia downloaded module stuff doesn't
>   conflict with the Debian packages.

Before I gave up I ran 'dpkg-reconfigure with each package name above
hoping that fix something, or at least generate an error message that
would give some clue.  But, no luck.  So I uninstalled it all and
rebooted.  My desktop came up fine with (I think) the vesa driver.

But, I often watch HD shows through MythTV, which didn't work well at
all with the vesa driver, nor with the nouveau driver.  So, back to
the downloaded nvidia driver.  Which had the exact same problem as the
nvidia package loaded through the repository, X would not load.  Ouch,
I hadn't expected that.

Poking around again I noticed a line in Xorg.0.log:

"Kernel command line: BOOT_IMAGE+/vmlinux-3.11.-2-686-pae
root=/dev/mapper/MyVG-root_LV ro nomodeset nouveau.modeset=0"

I did notice that earlier, but wasn't worried about nouveau being in
there because it's blacklisted.  But with these continuing problems I
guess it's worth looking into.  I edited it out in /etc/defaults/grub
and ran 'update-grub'.  That was it!  I am really puzzled how it got
there.  It seem strange to me that uninstalling the downloaded nvidia
drivers (which is the first thing I did when this all started) would
add that.  None of the 'grub.*' files in /etc/defaults was newer than
2012, but it was in there, suggesting it was always in the command
line.  So why was it a problem now???  As usual, I figure I must have
missed something, or done something dumb.  But, at least it works!

Oh, and one of my reasons for changing in the first place was to have
the driver automatically configured for each new kernel update that
was installed.  Apparently I did not have 'dkms' installed before, but
it got left over.  The nvidia driver offered to register with it for
automatic updates.  So I still get the main reason for changing.

Thanks for all your help,
Jon


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Re: Nvidia package installation problems

2013-12-23 Thread Brad Rogers
On Mon, 23 Dec 2013 11:05:51 -0500
Jon N  wrote:

Hello Jon,

>The card is a 8600 GT, which does use the latest drivers.  in fact, I
>uninstalled 319.76 that I had downloaded from nvida to install 319.76

Okay, now I know what GPU you've got.   And yes, you're right of course,
it uses the 319 drivers.

>from repository.  Duh!  I'm starting to think I'm going to have to
>back out and go back to nvidia's downloaded stuff.  Hopefully I won't

That would be a pity, but if you have to.

>have any trouble doing that.  But I don't want to have a package from
>repository still installed at the same time as the nvidia download.

There are problems with that as you can imagine.  Debian packages can
get confused by a previous nvidia installation.  I don't know whether
the same is true the other way round, but better safe than sorry.

I include here a list of all nvidia specific packages I have installed,
for the sake of comparison with your own list:

glx-alternative-nvidia_0.4.1
libgl1-nvidia-glx_319.76-1
libnvidia-ml1_319.76-1
libvdpau1_0.7-1
libxnvctrl0_319.72-1
libxnvctrl0_319.72-1
libxnvctrl0_319.72-1
nvidia-driver_319.76-1
nvidia-kernel-dkms_319.76-1
nvidia-settings_319.72-1
nvidia-alternative_319.76-1
nvidia-xconfig_319.72-1
nvidia-installer-cleanup_20131102+1 *
nvidia-kernel-common_20131102+1
nvidia-kernel-source_319.76-1
nvidia-support_20131102+1
xserver-xorg-video-nouveau_1.0.10-1
xserver-xorg-video-nvidia_319.76-1

* handy for ensuring the nvidia downloaded module stuff doesn't
  conflict with the Debian packages.

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Re: Nvidia package installation problems

2013-12-23 Thread Jon N
On Mon, Dec 23, 2013 at 10:20 AM, Brad Rogers  wrote:
> On Mon, 23 Dec 2013 09:35:52 -0500
> Jon N  wrote:
>
> Hello Jon,
>
>>I did check that, but it looks OK (correct version installed).
>>
>>Thanks,
>
> No problem.  I've just re-read your original message, and picked up on
> some stuff I missed previously.  Specifically, stuff about version
> number mismatches (319 vs 304).  Looks like you should be using
> nvidia-legacy drivers.  Search for nvidia-legacy-304.  Sounds as though
> your GFX card is not supported by latest (319) drivers.  You'll need to
> check what your GFX card is, and see which nvidia driver package
> supports it.  Either 304 or 173.

The card is a 8600 GT, which does use the latest drivers.  in fact, I
uninstalled 319.76 that I had downloaded from nvida to install 319.76
from repository.  Duh!  I'm starting to think I'm going to have to
back out and go back to nvidia's downloaded stuff.  Hopefully I won't
have any trouble doing that.  But I don't want to have a package from
repository still installed at the same time as the nvidia download.
There could be problems with the repository version updating and over
writing something form the nvidia download.

Thanks,
Jon


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Re: Nvidia package installation problems

2013-12-23 Thread Brad Rogers
On Mon, 23 Dec 2013 09:35:52 -0500
Jon N  wrote:

Hello Jon,

>I did check that, but it looks OK (correct version installed).
>
>Thanks,

No problem.  I've just re-read your original message, and picked up on
some stuff I missed previously.  Specifically, stuff about version
number mismatches (319 vs 304).  Looks like you should be using
nvidia-legacy drivers.  Search for nvidia-legacy-304.  Sounds as though
your GFX card is not supported by latest (319) drivers.  You'll need to
check what your GFX card is, and see which nvidia driver package
supports it.  Either 304 or 173.

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Re: Nvidia package installation problems

2013-12-23 Thread Jon N
On Mon, Dec 23, 2013 at 6:20 AM, Brad Rogers  wrote:
> On Sun, 22 Dec 2013 19:15:25 -0500
> Jon N  wrote:
>
> Hello Jon,
>
>>I love the idea of not having to re-installed the downloaded Nvidia
>>drivers every time the kernel updates (plus it seems to keep breaking)
>>so I would like to get this to work.  Any suggestions?
>
> As Andrei has said, make sure you have the relevant kernel headers
> package installed.  That's a show stopper.

I did check that, but it looks OK (correct version installed).

Thanks,
Jon


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Re: Nvidia package installation problems

2013-12-23 Thread Jon N
On Mon, Dec 23, 2013 at 4:21 AM, Andrei POPESCU
 wrote:
> On Du, 22 dec 13, 19:15:25, Jon N wrote:
>>
>> "NWRM: API mismatch: the client has the version 304.108, but this
>> kernel module has the version 319.76.  Please make sure that this
>> kernel module and all NVIDIA driver components have the same version."
>>
>> That sounds simple enough, but I have searched all packages I can
>> think make be related in Aptitude and can not find anything that
>> mentions version 304.108.  Either they all say 319.76, or a version
>> like '20131102+1 (that's the 'nvidia-kernel-common among others).
>
> You have a leftover kernel module. See if nvidia-kernel-dkms can cleanup
> and install a correct module for you. Make sure you have the matching
> kernel headers for your kernel installed.
>
> Kind regards,
> Andrei

I ran 'dpkg-reconfigure dkms' (which exited after only a few seconds
with no messages) and 'dpkg-reconfigure nvidia-kernel-dkms" which
seemed to do a number of things.  But basically it seemed to uninstall
the nvidia module version.319.76 from kernel 3.11-2-686-pae (it said
it was active on this kernel) and then load as new the exact same
module.  It even had an error message:

"Error! Module version 319.76 for nvidia-current.ko is not newer than
what is already found in kernel 3.11-2-686-pae (319.76).  You may
override by specifying --force"

At the end it says: "DKMS: install completed"

But, it did not fix the problem.

I tried checking the kernel headers using Aptitude and as far as I can
tell I have the following packages for linux-headers installed.  These
match the 2 kernels I have installed.  BTW, I tried booting the older
kernel and got the same results.

linux-headers-3.11-2-686-pae
linux-headers-3.11-2-common
linux-headers-686-pae
linux-headers-3.10-3-686-pae
linux-headers-3.10-3-common

That got me thinking again about versions. I searched for "304.*" (the
'mystery' version number that showed in some error messages) and found
a whole bunch of 'libcuda' files, all version 304 or older.  And a
couple of symlinks setting the newest of those as 'libcuda.so' (or
something similar).  I deleted them all as these must have been
leftovers from the downloaded nvidia binary drivers from nvidia.  I
didn't see that error message on the next boot, but still no X.
Installing the latest libcuda (319.76) from Aptitude did help either.

The only error message I can find now is from Xorg.0.log:

"(EE) Failed to load /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/nvidia_drv.so:
/usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/nvidia_drv.so: undefined symbol:
WindowTable"

Two lines below that is:

"(EE) Failed to load module "nvidia" (loader failed, 7)"

I don't know if the number '7' is significant.

I did start a search for the "... undefined symbol: WindowTable"
message, but so far nothing really stood out as a likely cause.

Thanks,
Jon


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Re: Nvidia package installation problems

2013-12-23 Thread Brad Rogers
On Sun, 22 Dec 2013 19:15:25 -0500
Jon N  wrote:

Hello Jon,

>I love the idea of not having to re-installed the downloaded Nvidia
>drivers every time the kernel updates (plus it seems to keep breaking)
>so I would like to get this to work.  Any suggestions?

As Andrei has said, make sure you have the relevant kernel headers
package installed.  That's a show stopper.

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Re: Nvidia package installation problems

2013-12-23 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Du, 22 dec 13, 19:15:25, Jon N wrote:
> 
> "NWRM: API mismatch: the client has the version 304.108, but this
> kernel module has the version 319.76.  Please make sure that this
> kernel module and all NVIDIA driver components have the same version."
> 
> That sounds simple enough, but I have searched all packages I can
> think make be related in Aptitude and can not find anything that
> mentions version 304.108.  Either they all say 319.76, or a version
> like '20131102+1 (that's the 'nvidia-kernel-common among others).

You have a leftover kernel module. See if nvidia-kernel-dkms can cleanup 
and install a correct module for you. Make sure you have the matching 
kernel headers for your kernel installed.

Kind regards,
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Re: Nvidia package installation problems

2013-12-22 Thread Jon N
On Mon, Dec 23, 2013 at 12:41 AM, Jon N  wrote:
> On Sun, Dec 22, 2013 at 7:15 PM, Jon N  wrote:

<---snip--->

> It's getting late so I'm going to have to look at this again in the
> morning.  I think I should be able to make a new blacklist file for
> nouveau (hopefully you can't have it blacklisted too many times) and
> copy the /etc/X11/xorg.conf to /root/xorg.conf.new to reference just
> the nvidia driver.  Anyone know where I can get a list of the order in
> which, and locations of, config files for X?  I would have sworn
> /etc/X11 was first, but it's not the first time I would be wrong
> either :-).

Ok, still up.  I discovered that I did not have an xorg.conf in
/etc/X11 after all.  So I put one there.  Now nvidia is the only
driver that seems to be loading in the Xorg.0.log file.  But, if
failed to load: "/usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/nvidia_drv.so:
undefined symbol: WindowTable".  So, I can look that up tomorrow, but
if anyone is familiar with this error and would be interested in
passing it along I will be very happy :-).

Thanks,
Jon

P.S.  I just did a quick google search on "nvidia_drv.so: undefined
symbol: WindowTable" and really didn't see anything that looked
useful, or even very recent.  But it was only a quick check, I really
have to get some sleep :-) zz.


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Re: Nvidia package installation problems

2013-12-22 Thread Jon N
On Sun, Dec 22, 2013 at 7:15 PM, Jon N  wrote:
> I have been getting pretty good with breaking my system lately.  Today
> I got it in mind to stop downloading the Nvidia binary driver and
> installing it myself and switch to using the version available as a
> Debian package.  I first uninstalled the downloaded version and
> rebooted to the normal desktop OK.  I tried using lspci to see just
> what driver it was currently using but either it didn't say or I
> didn't understand the output.  But the vesa driver was installed and
> it seemed unlikely it was using the driver I just uninstalled, so i
> went forward thinking I had the old drivers removed.  I'm not sure if
> that was necessary, but cleaning out the old before installing the new
> seemed to be a good idea.
>
> I wasn't sure exactly what to select (in Synaptic) for the new
> drivers, and unfortunately don't remember exactly everything that may
> have been selected as a dependency.  But I know I at least the
> following were installed:
> xserver-xorg-video-nvidia'
> nvidia-kernel-dkms
> dkms
>
> And I'm pretty sure these were installed
> nvidia-vdpau-driver
> nvidia-support
> nvidia-kernel-commen
> nvidia-installer-cleanup
> nvidia-alternative
> nvidia-kernel-686-pae (it does match my kernel, and making the kernel
> module ends without error)
>
> There are also other packages related to glx, and probably more I
> don't remember.
>
> But, I can't get the xserver to start.  I can log into virtual
> terminals OK.  At the end of the boot sequence I get the following
> message:
>
> "NWRM: API mismatch: the client has the version 304.108, but this
> kernel module has the version 319.76.  Please make sure that this
> kernel module and all NVIDIA driver components have the same version."
>
> That sounds simple enough, but I have searched all packages I can
> think make be related in Aptitude and can not find anything that
> mentions version 304.108.  Either they all say 319.76, or a version
> like '20131102+1 (that's the 'nvidia-kernel-common among others).
>
> I just noticed that 'glx-alternative-nvidia has a version of '0.4.1',
> but even if that's the problem I can't uninstall that without it
> taking most of the packages listed above.
>
> I checked my 'sources.list' and all the '...debian.org' lines are set
> to jessie.  I'm not sure if any of the packages related to my problem
> could have come from other repositories, but I do have the following:
>
> www.deb-multimedia.org/ testing non-free main
> packages.mate-desktop.org/repo/debian/ jessie main
> ftp.mowgli.ch/pub/debian/ wheezy unofficial
> Also apt.last.fm, download.skype.com and dowload.webmin.com, but these
> seem pretty unlikely sources of wrong version Nvidia drivers to me
> (then again, if I knew what I was doing I woudn't be writing to you
> :-)).
>
> I love the idea of not having to re-installed the downloaded Nvidia
> drivers every time the kernel updates (plus it seems to keep breaking)
> so I would like to get this to work.  Any suggestions?
>
> Thanks,
> Jon

Hmmm, I've been having a little luck trying to track down the source
of my own problem.  I checked the Xorg.0.log and noticed it seemed to
be trying to load about every dirver that made sense at all for my
Nvidia 8600 GT card.  They are (not necessarily in this order): nv,
nvidia, fbdev, vesa and nouveau.  And I know that I had nouveau
blacklisted before.  Heck, I had to, the downloaded nvidia drivers
wouldn't work if it wasn't.  I did notice that the contents of
/etc/modprode.d had changed with 2 new symlinks
(nvidia-blacklists-nouveau.conf and nvidia.conf) since trying to
install the nvidia driver package that both point to files in
/etc/alternatives.  I'm not sure if they are blacklisting it or not at
this point.

But, I'm not sure if that is the problem, since nouveau doesn't load
either.  I was also surprised that /etc/X11/xorg.conf apparently isn't
being looked at, it's using /root/xorg.conf.new, and
/usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d.  /root/xorg.conf.new has sections for each
of the drivers mentioned above, so I guess that's why it's trying to
load them.  But I renamed it and the behavior remains.  Apparently,
that lack of an xorg.conf file of some type just causes X to try a
bunch of stuff.  But nvidia isn't one of them (I'll take a guess that
because it's closed source it's not included in some sort of list of
default drivers to try).

It's getting late so I'm going to have to look at this again in the
morning.  I think I should be able to make a new blacklist file for
nouveau (hopefully you can't have it blacklisted too many times) and
copy the /etc/X11/xorg.conf to /root/xorg.conf.new to reference just
the nvidia driver.  Anyone know where I can get a list of the order in
which, and locations of, config files for X?  I would have sworn
/etc/X11 was first, but it's not the first time I would be wrong
either :-).

Thanks,
Jon


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Nvidia package installation problems

2013-12-22 Thread Jon N
I have been getting pretty good with breaking my system lately.  Today
I got it in mind to stop downloading the Nvidia binary driver and
installing it myself and switch to using the version available as a
Debian package.  I first uninstalled the downloaded version and
rebooted to the normal desktop OK.  I tried using lspci to see just
what driver it was currently using but either it didn't say or I
didn't understand the output.  But the vesa driver was installed and
it seemed unlikely it was using the driver I just uninstalled, so i
went forward thinking I had the old drivers removed.  I'm not sure if
that was necessary, but cleaning out the old before installing the new
seemed to be a good idea.

I wasn't sure exactly what to select (in Synaptic) for the new
drivers, and unfortunately don't remember exactly everything that may
have been selected as a dependency.  But I know I at least the
following were installed:
xserver-xorg-video-nvidia'
nvidia-kernel-dkms
dkms

And I'm pretty sure these were installed
nvidia-vdpau-driver
nvidia-support
nvidia-kernel-commen
nvidia-installer-cleanup
nvidia-alternative
nvidia-kernel-686-pae (it does match my kernel, and making the kernel
module ends without error)

There are also other packages related to glx, and probably more I
don't remember.

But, I can't get the xserver to start.  I can log into virtual
terminals OK.  At the end of the boot sequence I get the following
message:

"NWRM: API mismatch: the client has the version 304.108, but this
kernel module has the version 319.76.  Please make sure that this
kernel module and all NVIDIA driver components have the same version."

That sounds simple enough, but I have searched all packages I can
think make be related in Aptitude and can not find anything that
mentions version 304.108.  Either they all say 319.76, or a version
like '20131102+1 (that's the 'nvidia-kernel-common among others).

I just noticed that 'glx-alternative-nvidia has a version of '0.4.1',
but even if that's the problem I can't uninstall that without it
taking most of the packages listed above.

I checked my 'sources.list' and all the '...debian.org' lines are set
to jessie.  I'm not sure if any of the packages related to my problem
could have come from other repositories, but I do have the following:

www.deb-multimedia.org/ testing non-free main
packages.mate-desktop.org/repo/debian/ jessie main
ftp.mowgli.ch/pub/debian/ wheezy unofficial
Also apt.last.fm, download.skype.com and dowload.webmin.com, but these
seem pretty unlikely sources of wrong version Nvidia drivers to me
(then again, if I knew what I was doing I woudn't be writing to you
:-)).

I love the idea of not having to re-installed the downloaded Nvidia
drivers every time the kernel updates (plus it seems to keep breaking)
so I would like to get this to work.  Any suggestions?

Thanks,
Jon


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