Re: OOo 3.0 still not ready?? (was Re: Non-Debian Provided Packages)

2008-10-29 Thread Amit Uttamchandani
On Thu, 23 Oct 2008 16:12:58 +0200
Michelle Konzack <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hi Rene,
> 
> I have never installed OOo on an ARM machine, but do you know, HOW  much
> Memory I must have to run it?  I have a Atmel AT91SAM9G20 (400 MHz) with
> 256 MByte SDRAM and 2x 512 MByte NAND Flash and a Freescale i.MX31  (532
> MHz) with 512 MByte mobile SDRAM and 512 MByte of NAND Flash.
> 

I am running openoffice on a 500MHz G4 with 512MB RAM. Start up is a
little slow but otherwise it performs well enough.


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Re: OOo 3.0 still not ready?? (was Re: Non-Debian Provided Packages)

2008-10-27 Thread Michelle Konzack
Hi Rene,

I have never installed OOo on an ARM machine, but do you know, HOW  much
Memory I must have to run it?  I have a Atmel AT91SAM9G20 (400 MHz) with
256 MByte SDRAM and 2x 512 MByte NAND Flash and a Freescale i.MX31  (532
MHz) with 512 MByte mobile SDRAM and 512 MByte of NAND Flash.

Am 2008-10-21 10:57:44, schrieb Rene Engelhard:
> > openoffice.org | 1:2.4.1-11 |   testing | source, amd64, armel, i386, 
> > ia64, mips, mipsel, powerpc, s390, sparc


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Re: OOo 3.0 still not ready?? (was Re: Non-Debian Provided Packages)

2008-10-22 Thread Michelle Konzack
Shalom Tzafrir,

Am 2008-10-18 18:16:59, schrieb Tzafrir Cohen:
> On Sat, Oct 18, 2008 at 12:06:38PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:
> 
> > You say that OOo3 is "Experimental 3.0.0-3", but evidence shows that the 
> > ftp.debian.org experimental branch is still at 3.0.0~rc4-1.
> 
> $ rmadison openoffice.org
> openoffice.org | 1.1.3-9sarge8 | oldstable | source, all
> openoffice.org | 2.0.4.dfsg.2-5etch1 | etch-m68k | source
> openoffice.org | 2.0.4.dfsg.2-7etch5 |stable | source, amd64, i386, 
> powerpc, sparc
> openoffice.org | 1:2.4.1-11 |   testing | source, amd64, armel, i386, 
> ia64, mips, mipsel, powerpc, s390, sparc
> openoffice.org | 1:2.4.1-11 |  unstable | source, amd64, armel, i386, 
> ia64, mips, mipsel, powerpc, s390, sparc
> openoffice.org | 1:3.0.0~beta2-1 |  experimental | sparc
> openoffice.org | 1:3.0.0~rc2-1 |  experimental | powerpc
> openoffice.org | 1:3.0.0~rc4-1 |  experimental | i386
> openoffice.org |  1:3.0.0-3 |  experimental | source, amd64
> 
> So just upgrade from i386 to amd64, and your're done :-)

ROTFL  Israelian Joke?

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Re: OOo 3.0 still not ready?? (was Re: Non-Debian Provided Packages)

2008-10-21 Thread Paul Cartwright
Ron Johnson wrote: b
>> And you won't be able to install it on pure lenny, needs one lib from
>> sid. The other one (liblucene2-java) can be omitted when you don't
>> install the metapackage (openoffice.org) or don't need search in the
>> help...
>>
>> At some time there will be a lenny-backport, though.
> 
> Or he could install directly from www.openoffice.org or go-oo.
> 

well, I'd rather do it through aptitude, so It would show and update
regularly.. When I tried to add it to my Ubuntu laptop, all the .debs
installed, but it balked at the menus, saying there was a conflict, and
I couldn't figure out how to resolve the conflict.

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Re: OOo 3.0 still not ready?? (was Re: Non-Debian Provided Packages)

2008-10-21 Thread Ron Johnson

On 10/21/08 05:53, Rene Engelhard wrote:

Hi,

Paul Cartwright wrote:

so on my Lenny system, if I run this command:

apt-get install -t experimental openoffice.org

will it overwrite my existing 2.4 installation, or will I have 2 OOs
available ?


think a bit... Same package names -> overwrites 2.4.

And you won't be able to install it on pure lenny, needs one lib from
sid. The other one (liblucene2-java) can be omitted when you don't
install the metapackage (openoffice.org) or don't need search in the
help...

At some time there will be a lenny-backport, though.


Or he could install directly from www.openoffice.org or go-oo.

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Re: OOo 3.0 still not ready?? (was Re: Non-Debian Provided Packages)

2008-10-21 Thread Ron Johnson

On 10/21/08 03:57, Rene Engelhard wrote:

Hi,

Tzafrir Cohen wrote:

On Sat, Oct 18, 2008 at 12:06:38PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:

You say that OOo3 is "Experimental 3.0.0-3", but evidence shows that the 
ftp.debian.org experimental branch is still at 3.0.0~rc4-1.

$ rmadison openoffice.org
openoffice.org | 1.1.3-9sarge8 | oldstable | source, all

[snip]

openoffice.org | 1:3.0.0~rc4-1 |  experimental | i386
openoffice.org |  1:3.0.0-3 |  experimental | source, amd64

So just upgrade from i386 to amd64, and your're done :-)


In the meanwhile it's available for i386 now :)

$ rmadison -s experimental openoffice.org-core
openoffice.org-core |  1:3.0.0-3 |  experimental | amd64, i386, powerpc, sparc

Grüße/Regards,

René
(the maintainer, and sorry for the hassle, -1 and -2 failed to build
on the i386 buildd)


No problem.  We all appreciate you tireless work wrangling this huge 
blob.


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Re: OOo 3.0 still not ready?? (was Re: Non-Debian Provided Packages)

2008-10-21 Thread Rene Engelhard
Hi,

Paul Cartwright wrote:
> so on my Lenny system, if I run this command:
> 
> apt-get install -t experimental openoffice.org
> 
> will it overwrite my existing 2.4 installation, or will I have 2 OOs
> available ?

think a bit... Same package names -> overwrites 2.4.

And you won't be able to install it on pure lenny, needs one lib from
sid. The other one (liblucene2-java) can be omitted when you don't
install the metapackage (openoffice.org) or don't need search in the
help...

At some time there will be a lenny-backport, though.

Grüße/Regards,

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Re: OOo 3.0 still not ready?? (was Re: Non-Debian Provided Packages)

2008-10-21 Thread Paul Cartwright
Rene Engelhard wrote:
> $ rmadison -s experimental openoffice.org-core

I just tried that command and got the same results.. never heard of
rmadison before!!

> openoffice.org-core |  1:3.0.0-3 |  experimental | amd64, i386, powerpc, sparc
> 
> Grüße/Regards,
> 
> René
> (the maintainer, and sorry for the hassle, -1 and -2 failed to build
> on the i386 buildd)

so on my Lenny system, if I run this command:

apt-get install -t experimental openoffice.org

will it overwrite my existing 2.4 installation, or will I have 2 OOs
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Re: OOo 3.0 still not ready?? (was Re: Non-Debian Provided Packages)

2008-10-21 Thread Rene Engelhard
Hi,

Tzafrir Cohen wrote:
> On Sat, Oct 18, 2008 at 12:06:38PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:
> 
> > You say that OOo3 is "Experimental 3.0.0-3", but evidence shows that the 
> > ftp.debian.org experimental branch is still at 3.0.0~rc4-1.
> 
> $ rmadison openoffice.org
> openoffice.org | 1.1.3-9sarge8 | oldstable | source, all
> openoffice.org | 2.0.4.dfsg.2-5etch1 | etch-m68k | source
> openoffice.org | 2.0.4.dfsg.2-7etch5 |stable | source, amd64, i386, 
> powerpc, sparc
> openoffice.org | 1:2.4.1-11 |   testing | source, amd64, armel, i386, 
> ia64, mips, mipsel, powerpc, s390, sparc
> openoffice.org | 1:2.4.1-11 |  unstable | source, amd64, armel, i386, 
> ia64, mips, mipsel, powerpc, s390, sparc
> openoffice.org | 1:3.0.0~beta2-1 |  experimental | sparc
> openoffice.org | 1:3.0.0~rc2-1 |  experimental | powerpc
> openoffice.org | 1:3.0.0~rc4-1 |  experimental | i386
> openoffice.org |  1:3.0.0-3 |  experimental | source, amd64
> 
> So just upgrade from i386 to amd64, and your're done :-)

In the meanwhile it's available for i386 now :)

$ rmadison -s experimental openoffice.org-core
openoffice.org-core |  1:3.0.0-3 |  experimental | amd64, i386, powerpc, sparc

Grüße/Regards,

René
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Re: OOo 3.0 still not ready?? (was Re: Non-Debian Provided Packages)

2008-10-18 Thread Tzafrir Cohen
On Sat, Oct 18, 2008 at 12:06:38PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:

> You say that OOo3 is "Experimental 3.0.0-3", but evidence shows that the 
> ftp.debian.org experimental branch is still at 3.0.0~rc4-1.

$ rmadison openoffice.org
openoffice.org | 1.1.3-9sarge8 | oldstable | source, all
openoffice.org | 2.0.4.dfsg.2-5etch1 | etch-m68k | source
openoffice.org | 2.0.4.dfsg.2-7etch5 |stable | source, amd64, i386, 
powerpc, sparc
openoffice.org | 1:2.4.1-11 |   testing | source, amd64, armel, i386, ia64, 
mips, mipsel, powerpc, s390, sparc
openoffice.org | 1:2.4.1-11 |  unstable | source, amd64, armel, i386, ia64, 
mips, mipsel, powerpc, s390, sparc
openoffice.org | 1:3.0.0~beta2-1 |  experimental | sparc
openoffice.org | 1:3.0.0~rc2-1 |  experimental | powerpc
openoffice.org | 1:3.0.0~rc4-1 |  experimental | i386
openoffice.org |  1:3.0.0-3 |  experimental | source, amd64

So just upgrade from i386 to amd64, and your're done :-)

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Re: OOo 3.0 still not ready?? (was Re: Non-Debian Provided Packages)

2008-10-18 Thread Ron Johnson

On 10/18/08 11:59, Eduardo M KALINOWSKI wrote:

Ron Johnson wrote:

But even after I just updated apt, I still get this:

# apt-get update
[yadda yadda]
$ apt-cache policy openoffice.org
openoffice.org:
   Installed: 1:2.4.1-9
   Candidate: 1:2.4.1-11
   Version table:
  1:3.0.0~rc4-1 0
   1 http://ftp.debian.org ../project/experimental/main Packages
  1:2.4.1-11 0
 500 ftp://mirrors.kernel.org unstable/main Packages
  *** 1:2.4.1-9 0
 100 /var/lib/dpkg/status


That's strange, I updated my openoffice.org packages a couple days ago
to the 3.0.0 version (1:3.0.0-2), to be more precise. My sources.list entry:

deb http://ftp.br.debian.org/debian/ experimental main contrib non-free


Hmmm, now *that* is interesting.

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Re: OOo 3.0 still not ready?? (was Re: Non-Debian Provided Packages)

2008-10-18 Thread Ron Johnson

On 10/18/08 11:38, Osamu Aoki wrote:

On Sat, Oct 18, 2008 at 11:21:18AM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:

On 10/18/08 10:54, Ron Johnson wrote:

On 10/18/08 02:11, Osamu Aoki wrote:
[snip]

Experimental1:3.0.0-3

It looks like someone is uploading it to Experimental now.

Thanks!

But even after I just updated apt, I still get this:

# apt-get update
[yadda yadda]
$ apt-cache policy openoffice.org
openoffice.org:
  Installed: 1:2.4.1-9
  Candidate: 1:2.4.1-11
  Version table:
 1:3.0.0~rc4-1 0
  1 http://ftp.debian.org ../project/experimental/main Packages
 1:2.4.1-11 0
500 ftp://mirrors.kernel.org unstable/main Packages
 *** 1:2.4.1-9 0
100 /var/lib/dpkg/status


Of course experimental is "NotAutomatic: yes" archive ... 
Its default Pin-Priority value is 1 which is smaller than one for installed package 100


That's not the point.

You say that OOo3 is "Experimental 3.0.0-3", but evidence shows that 
the ftp.debian.org experimental branch is still at 3.0.0~rc4-1.


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Re: OOo 3.0 still not ready?? (was Re: Non-Debian Provided Packages)

2008-10-18 Thread Eduardo M KALINOWSKI
Ron Johnson wrote:
> But even after I just updated apt, I still get this:
>
> # apt-get update
> [yadda yadda]
> $ apt-cache policy openoffice.org
> openoffice.org:
>Installed: 1:2.4.1-9
>Candidate: 1:2.4.1-11
>Version table:
>   1:3.0.0~rc4-1 0
>1 http://ftp.debian.org ../project/experimental/main Packages
>   1:2.4.1-11 0
>  500 ftp://mirrors.kernel.org unstable/main Packages
>   *** 1:2.4.1-9 0
>  100 /var/lib/dpkg/status

That's strange, I updated my openoffice.org packages a couple days ago
to the 3.0.0 version (1:3.0.0-2), to be more precise. My sources.list entry:

deb http://ftp.br.debian.org/debian/ experimental main contrib non-free


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Re: OOo 3.0 still not ready?? (was Re: Non-Debian Provided Packages)

2008-10-18 Thread Osamu Aoki
On Sat, Oct 18, 2008 at 11:21:18AM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:
> On 10/18/08 10:54, Ron Johnson wrote:
>> On 10/18/08 02:11, Osamu Aoki wrote:
>> [snip]
>>> Experimental1:3.0.0-3
>>>
>>> It looks like someone is uploading it to Experimental now.
>>
>> Thanks!
>
> But even after I just updated apt, I still get this:
>
> # apt-get update
> [yadda yadda]
> $ apt-cache policy openoffice.org
> openoffice.org:
>   Installed: 1:2.4.1-9
>   Candidate: 1:2.4.1-11
>   Version table:
>  1:3.0.0~rc4-1 0
>   1 http://ftp.debian.org ../project/experimental/main Packages
>  1:2.4.1-11 0
> 500 ftp://mirrors.kernel.org unstable/main Packages
>  *** 1:2.4.1-9 0
> 100 /var/lib/dpkg/status

Of course experimental is "NotAutomatic: yes" archive ... 
Its default Pin-Priority value is 1 which is smaller than one for installed 
package 100

 
http://people.debian.org/~osamu/pub/getwiki/html/ch03.en.html#archivelevelreleasefiles
 
http://people.debian.org/~osamu/pub/getwiki/html/ch03.en.html#tweakingcandidateversion
 

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Re: OOo 3.0 still not ready?? (was Re: Non-Debian Provided Packages)

2008-10-18 Thread Florian Kulzer
On Sat, Oct 18, 2008 at 11:21:18 -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:
> On 10/18/08 10:54, Ron Johnson wrote:
>> On 10/18/08 02:11, Osamu Aoki wrote:
>> [snip]
>>> Experimental1:3.0.0-3
>>>
>>> It looks like someone is uploading it to Experimental now.
>>
>> Thanks!
>
> But even after I just updated apt, I still get this:
>
> # apt-get update
> [yadda yadda]
> $ apt-cache policy openoffice.org
> openoffice.org:
>   Installed: 1:2.4.1-9
>   Candidate: 1:2.4.1-11
>   Version table:
>  1:3.0.0~rc4-1 0
>   1 http://ftp.debian.org ../project/experimental/main Packages
>  1:2.4.1-11 0
> 500 ftp://mirrors.kernel.org unstable/main Packages
>  *** 1:2.4.1-9 0
> 100 /var/lib/dpkg/status

Experimental gets a very low priority (1) by default so you have to ask
for these versions explicitly, e.g.:

apt-get install -t experimental openoffice.org

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OOo 3.0 still not ready?? (was Re: Non-Debian Provided Packages)

2008-10-18 Thread Ron Johnson

On 10/18/08 10:54, Ron Johnson wrote:

On 10/18/08 02:11, Osamu Aoki wrote:
[snip]

Experimental1:3.0.0-3

It looks like someone is uploading it to Experimental now.


Thanks!


But even after I just updated apt, I still get this:

# apt-get update
[yadda yadda]
$ apt-cache policy openoffice.org
openoffice.org:
  Installed: 1:2.4.1-9
  Candidate: 1:2.4.1-11
  Version table:
 1:3.0.0~rc4-1 0
  1 http://ftp.debian.org ../project/experimental/main Packages
 1:2.4.1-11 0
500 ftp://mirrors.kernel.org unstable/main Packages
 *** 1:2.4.1-9 0
100 /var/lib/dpkg/status

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