Re: OT: Newbie questions on security
On Sun, May 27, 2012 at 04:47:14PM +1000, Scott Ferguson wrote: > On 09/03/12 02:40, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > > On Jo, 08 mar 12, 12:52:01, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > >> > >> You can post them here as long as they are Debian related[2]. If there > >> is a better list for any specific question you will get hints. > > > > Sorry list, I didn't expect what was about to come... > > > > Kind regards, > > Andrei > > No need to apologise. This'll be great. > Just answer all the questions. > > I've got popcorn. :-) No hot butter on mine. :) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OSRCemf2JHc -- "If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people who are being oppressed, and loving the people who are doing the oppressing." --- Malcolm X -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120528114807.GF20883@tal
Re: OT: Newbie questions on security
On 09/03/12 02:40, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > On Jo, 08 mar 12, 12:52:01, Andrei POPESCU wrote: >> >> You can post them here as long as they are Debian related[2]. If there >> is a better list for any specific question you will get hints. > > Sorry list, I didn't expect what was about to come... > > Kind regards, > Andrei No need to apologise. This'll be great. Just answer all the questions. I've got popcorn. :-) Kind regards -- Iceweasel/Firefox/Chrome/Chromium/Iceape/IE extensions for finding answers to questions about Debian:- https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/collections/Scott_Ferguson/debian/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4fc1cdf2.4060...@gmail.com
Re: OT: Newbie questions on security
On Thu, 08 Mar 2012 20:30:59 +0300, Stayvoid wrote: >> I wonder why the OP didn't keep all the questions in just one thread if >> they are addressed to the same subject. > Sorry again. I've though it was a good idea to split those because some > issues may lead to a long discussion. I have no problems with long discussions provided they're properly tagged in the subject (e.g., "feedback needed" or "OT" as you did) and kept in the same thread (if there are diversions from the original subject it can be then edited accordingly). Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/jjarkk$ek5$1...@dough.gmane.org
Re: OT: Newbie questions on security
> Why do you think debian-security was the wrong list? You even got answers to > some questions you posted there, what's wrong with those? People told me (in private) that my questions are not connected with security and I shouldn't post them there. I've also been told that debian-security is used only for the security announcements. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/cak5fs_ene2cq58fnscnqmrsecsxta3-txpm7mh-rkle5zfd...@mail.gmail.com
Re: OT: Newbie questions on security
> nobody did Sorry. I learned my lesson. > Most of them could be > answered with the right google search. It's true, but most of the answers you get will be something like "do foo because foo is a Good Thing." I want to know the reason for doing foo. > Also, Im happy to see you are eager to learn, but start reading the > debian-reference for starters (apt-get install debian-reference; dpkg -L > debian-reference) prior reading securing-debian... OK. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/cak5fs_fhwedumkr5vsjauty5r5xa77njmdn+wyludxaugdk...@mail.gmail.com
Re: OT: Newbie questions on security
> I wonder why the OP didn't keep all the questions in just one thread if > they are addressed to the same subject. Sorry again. I've though it was a good idea to split those because some issues may lead to a long discussion. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/CAK5fS_G2vXMKHm7qUGTboq=K0aA0NJ6muOH=rtc_9fn2mgh...@mail.gmail.com
Re: OT: Newbie questions on security
On Qua, 07 Mar 2012, Stayvoid wrote: Hi there. I've recently read Securing Debian Manual and I have some newbie questions connected with security. I've thought that debian-security is the right list for them, but I was wrong. What is the proper list for such questions? Why do you think debian-security was the wrong list? You even got answers to some questions you posted there, what's wrong with those? -- Life is like an analogy. Eduardo M KALINOWSKI edua...@kalinowski.com.br -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120308133323.horde.qlnjlkisjlfpwn9t3lqz...@mail.kalinowski.com.br
Re: OT: Newbie questions on security
On 08/03/12 16:40, Andrei POPESCU wrote: On Jo, 08 mar 12, 12:52:01, Andrei POPESCU wrote: You can post them here as long as they are Debian related[2]. If there is a better list for any specific question you will get hints. Sorry list, I didn't expect what was about to come... nobody did Sayvoid, your questions shows a lack of research. Most of them could be answered with the right google search. Also, Im happy to see you are eager to learn, but start reading the debian-reference for starters (apt-get install debian-reference; dpkg -L debian-reference) prior reading securing-debian... Also, if you still have to make THESE many questions (that i really think you didnt google about most of them), either space them in time, or post a single mail with a semi-descriptive subject saying something like "Lots of noobish questions" or something along those lines, where ppl can answer you inline... while you avoid spaming the list... greets! alberto -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4f58d5b5.6000...@qindel.com
Re: OT: Newbie questions on security
On Thu, 08 Mar 2012 17:40:26 +0200, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > On Jo, 08 mar 12, 12:52:01, Andrei POPESCU wrote: >> >> You can post them here as long as they are Debian related[2]. If there >> is a better list for any specific question you will get hints. > > Sorry list, I didn't expect what was about to come... Nothing to regret, we all know you did it with your best of intentions; we can't foresee other user's reactions :-) I wonder why the OP didn't keep all the questions in just one thread if they are addressed to the same subject. Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/jjal2v$ek5$8...@dough.gmane.org
Re: OT: Newbie questions on security
On Jo, 08 mar 12, 12:52:01, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > > You can post them here as long as they are Debian related[2]. If there > is a better list for any specific question you will get hints. Sorry list, I didn't expect what was about to come... Kind regards, Andrei -- Offtopic discussions among Debian users and developers: http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/d-community-offtopic signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: OT: Newbie questions on security
On Jo, 08 mar 12, 14:56:03, Stayvoid wrote: > > A machine (including any virtual hosts on it) can not be 100% secured > > from people having physical access to it. > So the only solution in this case is to run the server at my place. Right? Depends on your paranoia, since your place is not 100% secure either ;) Kind regards, Andrei -- Offtopic discussions among Debian users and developers: http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/d-community-offtopic signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: OT: Newbie questions on security
> A machine (including any virtual hosts on it) can not be 100% secured > from people having physical access to it. So the only solution in this case is to run the server at my place. Right? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/CAK5fS_Ff7z-1TQU8F=KxHrNQBd=P2iNuF5B3n8SgJU-K=cn...@mail.gmail.com
Re: OT: Newbie questions on security
On Jo, 08 mar 12, 05:42:51, Stayvoid wrote: > Hi there. > > I've recently read Securing Debian Manual and I have some newbie > questions connected with security. > I've thought that debian-security is the right list > for them, but I was wrong. > What is the proper list for such questions? debian-user is a good start. > Here is an example: > What is more secure: dedicated server or VPS? > I've been told that a hoster has an ability to look through the files on the > VM. A machine (including any virtual hosts on it) can not be 100% secured from people having physical access to it. > Why people use this solution for MTAs? Why not? (see also Paul's message) > Do they care about privacy? Unknown. > Is it possible to hide your data from the staff? No[1]. > P.S. I have more questions to ask and I don't really know where to > post them. So I need your advice. Sorry for the OT. You can post them here as long as they are Debian related[2]. If there is a better list for any specific question you will get hints. [1] It is possible to deposit data on a remote host (e.g. encrypted), if it is just for storage reasons, but if the host can access the un-encrypted data, the staff can read it too. [2] if you actually run gNewSense or any other Debian derivative you should ask there instead, since the developers may have made customizations we are not aware of and our advice may be completely wrong. Kind regards, Andrei -- Offtopic discussions among Debian users and developers: http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/d-community-offtopic signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: OT: Newbie questions on security
On Wed, Mar 7, 2012 at 6:42 PM, Stayvoid wrote: > > What is more secure: dedicated server or VPS? > I've been told that a hoster has an ability to look through the files on the > VM. > Why people use this solution for MTAs? Do they care about privacy? Is > it possible to hide your data from the staff? For an MTA, there's not really any difference. If the email isn't encrypted using something like OpenPGP, etc, then it's basically an electronic postcard readable to anybody along the cables and mail relays it passes through. Doesn't make a lick of difference. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/CAMPM96pAYn9Cd22q=iyjgt0vhcwqqc7fsjfog75h6kqyjbw...@mail.gmail.com
OT: Newbie questions on security
Hi there. I've recently read Securing Debian Manual and I have some newbie questions connected with security. I've thought that debian-security is the right list for them, but I was wrong. What is the proper list for such questions? Here is an example: What is more secure: dedicated server or VPS? I've been told that a hoster has an ability to look through the files on the VM. Why people use this solution for MTAs? Do they care about privacy? Is it possible to hide your data from the staff? Cheers P.S. I have more questions to ask and I don't really know where to post them. So I need your advice. Sorry for the OT. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/cak5fs_gmprjr1frnbrbrro6coecrokqghysikotaccooyfp...@mail.gmail.com
