Re: OT: Petition: StarCraft 2 for Linux

2007-05-29 Thread Paul Johnson
Nelson Castillo wrote in Article
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> On 5/23/07, Greg Folkert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> (cut)
>> Explain to me... what BIG games are there for Linux ... NOT Wine
>> enabled. How many sales will that take a away from Blizzard... the WoW
>> has shown people will use Windows to play it period. Why shoudl it
>> change and cater to 5% that will cause 80-90% of the problems (in their
>> eyes)
> 
> Does Second Life counts?

Second Life isn't really a game so much as it's a simulator.  But close
enough.

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Re: OT: Petition: StarCraft 2 for Linux

2007-05-27 Thread Nelson Castillo

On 5/23/07, Greg Folkert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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Explain to me... what BIG games are there for Linux ... NOT Wine
enabled. How many sales will that take a away from Blizzard... the WoW
has shown people will use Windows to play it period. Why shoudl it
change and cater to 5% that will cause 80-90% of the problems (in their
eyes)


Does Second Life counts?

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Re: OT: Petition: StarCraft 2 for Linux

2007-05-27 Thread Ron Johnson

On 05/27/07 12:17, Wesley J. Landaker wrote:

On Tuesday 22 May 2007 14:35:30 Ron Johnson wrote:

On 05/22/07 15:27, Andrei Popescu wrote:

At least it's related to Linux :)

To make it short here is the link:
http://www.petitiononline.com/ibpfl/petition.html

If you liked StarCraft (and/or other Blizzard games) then please sign.

Who needs StarCraft when you've got NetHack


I would agree, if Nethack had Zerglings.


Does StarCraft have red ants and fire ants?

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Re: OT: Petition: StarCraft 2 for Linux

2007-05-27 Thread Wesley J. Landaker
On Tuesday 22 May 2007 14:35:30 Ron Johnson wrote:
> On 05/22/07 15:27, Andrei Popescu wrote:
> > At least it's related to Linux :)
> >
> > To make it short here is the link:
> > http://www.petitiononline.com/ibpfl/petition.html
> >
> > If you liked StarCraft (and/or other Blizzard games) then please sign.
>
> Who needs StarCraft when you've got NetHack

I would agree, if Nethack had Zerglings.

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Re: OT: Petition: StarCraft 2 for Linux

2007-05-24 Thread Paul Johnson
Greg Folkert wrote in Article
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> On Wed, 2007-05-23 at 15:55 -0700, Paul Johnson wrote:
>> Andrei Popescu wrote in Article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> posted to gmane.linux.debian.user:
>> 
>> > At least it's related to Linux :)
>> > 
>> > To make it short here is the link:
>> > http://www.petitiononline.com/ibpfl/petition.html
>> > 
>> > If you liked StarCraft (and/or other Blizzard games) then please sign.
>> 
>> Wouldn't it be more productive in convincing Blizzard there is a market
>> for their products among people who use Linux by buying the Linux
>> versions of other vendors games instead?
> 
> Explain to me... what BIG games are there for Linux ... NOT Wine
> enabled. How many sales will that take a away from Blizzard... the WoW
> has shown people will use Windows to play it period. Why shoudl it
> change and cater to 5% that will cause 80-90% of the problems (in their
> eyes)

All id titles are Linux native at this point.  Most major current Atari
franchises for the PC (all the big ones like UT) are on Linux as well. 
Second Life is also native.  Then there's just playing similar open source
games instead until Blizzard gets their act together.

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Re: OT: Petition: StarCraft 2 for Linux

2007-05-24 Thread Paul Johnson
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> Then when my two licenses numbers became invalid for online play, I 
> stopped playing twitch games all together. 

How'd that happen?

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Re: OT: Petition: StarCraft 2 for Linux

2007-05-24 Thread Ron Johnson
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On 05/24/07 08:49, Greg Folkert wrote:
> On Wed, 2007-05-23 at 23:50 -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:
>> On 05/23/07 20:33, Greg Folkert wrote:
>>> On Wed, 2007-05-23 at 15:55 -0700, Paul Johnson wrote:
 Andrei Popescu wrote in Article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
 posted to gmane.linux.debian.user:

> At least it's related to Linux :)
>
> To make it short here is the link:
> http://www.petitiononline.com/ibpfl/petition.html
>
> If you liked StarCraft (and/or other Blizzard games) then please sign.
 Wouldn't it be more productive in convincing Blizzard there is a market for
 their products among people who use Linux by buying the Linux versions of
 other vendors games instead?
>>> Explain to me... what BIG games are there for Linux ... NOT Wine
>>> enabled. How many sales will that take a away from Blizzard... the WoW
>>> has shown people will use Windows to play it period. Why shoudl it
>>> change and cater to 5% that will cause 80-90% of the problems (in their
>>> eyes)
>>>
>>> WoW, you know that MMPORG so hugely successful, best one since UO.
>>>
>>> Speaking of UO, it has a Linux client at one time. They dropped (and
>>> banned) it, it caused 60% of the play problems across the board and yet
>>> only about 15 users used it (me being one).
>> Wasn't that ~6 months ago?
> 
> No, try 6 years ago.
> 
> Of course they could have done another since then. I haven't played any
> "games" since since Unreal Tournament and UT2003/2004. Then when my two
> licenses numbers became invalid for online play, I stopped playing
> twitch games all together.

Ok.  About 6 months ago there was a MMORPG that banned users that
play from Linux/Wine.  Some over-aggressive and stupid dweeb at the
company thought that these customers were bots.

After a few days, the company realized the error of dweeb's ways and
restored the accounts.

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Re: OT: Petition: StarCraft 2 for Linux

2007-05-24 Thread Greg Folkert
On Wed, 2007-05-23 at 23:50 -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:
> On 05/23/07 20:33, Greg Folkert wrote:
> > On Wed, 2007-05-23 at 15:55 -0700, Paul Johnson wrote:
> >> Andrei Popescu wrote in Article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> posted to gmane.linux.debian.user:
> >>
> >>> At least it's related to Linux :)
> >>>
> >>> To make it short here is the link:
> >>> http://www.petitiononline.com/ibpfl/petition.html
> >>>
> >>> If you liked StarCraft (and/or other Blizzard games) then please sign.
> >> Wouldn't it be more productive in convincing Blizzard there is a market for
> >> their products among people who use Linux by buying the Linux versions of
> >> other vendors games instead?
> > 
> > Explain to me... what BIG games are there for Linux ... NOT Wine
> > enabled. How many sales will that take a away from Blizzard... the WoW
> > has shown people will use Windows to play it period. Why shoudl it
> > change and cater to 5% that will cause 80-90% of the problems (in their
> > eyes)
> > 
> > WoW, you know that MMPORG so hugely successful, best one since UO.
> > 
> > Speaking of UO, it has a Linux client at one time. They dropped (and
> > banned) it, it caused 60% of the play problems across the board and yet
> > only about 15 users used it (me being one).
> 
> Wasn't that ~6 months ago?

No, try 6 years ago.

Of course they could have done another since then. I haven't played any
"games" since since Unreal Tournament and UT2003/2004. Then when my two
licenses numbers became invalid for online play, I stopped playing
twitch games all together.
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Re: OT: Petition: StarCraft 2 for Linux

2007-05-23 Thread Ron Johnson
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On 05/23/07 20:33, Greg Folkert wrote:
> On Wed, 2007-05-23 at 15:55 -0700, Paul Johnson wrote:
>> Andrei Popescu wrote in Article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> posted to gmane.linux.debian.user:
>>
>>> At least it's related to Linux :)
>>>
>>> To make it short here is the link:
>>> http://www.petitiononline.com/ibpfl/petition.html
>>>
>>> If you liked StarCraft (and/or other Blizzard games) then please sign.
>> Wouldn't it be more productive in convincing Blizzard there is a market for
>> their products among people who use Linux by buying the Linux versions of
>> other vendors games instead?
> 
> Explain to me... what BIG games are there for Linux ... NOT Wine
> enabled. How many sales will that take a away from Blizzard... the WoW
> has shown people will use Windows to play it period. Why shoudl it
> change and cater to 5% that will cause 80-90% of the problems (in their
> eyes)
> 
> WoW, you know that MMPORG so hugely successful, best one since UO.
> 
> Speaking of UO, it has a Linux client at one time. They dropped (and
> banned) it, it caused 60% of the play problems across the board and yet
> only about 15 users used it (me being one).

Wasn't that ~6 months ago?

> It was more problem than it was worth for them, would still be to this
> day.


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Re: OT: Petition: StarCraft 2 for Linux

2007-05-23 Thread Greg Folkert
On Wed, 2007-05-23 at 15:55 -0700, Paul Johnson wrote:
> Andrei Popescu wrote in Article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> posted to gmane.linux.debian.user:
> 
> > At least it's related to Linux :)
> > 
> > To make it short here is the link:
> > http://www.petitiononline.com/ibpfl/petition.html
> > 
> > If you liked StarCraft (and/or other Blizzard games) then please sign.
> 
> Wouldn't it be more productive in convincing Blizzard there is a market for
> their products among people who use Linux by buying the Linux versions of
> other vendors games instead?

Explain to me... what BIG games are there for Linux ... NOT Wine
enabled. How many sales will that take a away from Blizzard... the WoW
has shown people will use Windows to play it period. Why shoudl it
change and cater to 5% that will cause 80-90% of the problems (in their
eyes)

WoW, you know that MMPORG so hugely successful, best one since UO.

Speaking of UO, it has a Linux client at one time. They dropped (and
banned) it, it caused 60% of the play problems across the board and yet
only about 15 users used it (me being one).

It was more problem than it was worth for them, would still be to this
day.
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Re: OT: Petition: StarCraft 2 for Linux

2007-05-23 Thread Paul Johnson
Andrei Popescu wrote in Article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
posted to gmane.linux.debian.user:

> At least it's related to Linux :)
> 
> To make it short here is the link:
> http://www.petitiononline.com/ibpfl/petition.html
> 
> If you liked StarCraft (and/or other Blizzard games) then please sign.

Wouldn't it be more productive in convincing Blizzard there is a market for
their products among people who use Linux by buying the Linux versions of
other vendors games instead?

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Re: OT: Petition: StarCraft 2 for Linux

2007-05-23 Thread Ron Johnson
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On 05/23/07 07:01, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote:
> Ron Johnson wrote:
>>
>> On 05/22/07 18:07, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote:
>>> Ron Johnson wrote:

 On 05/22/07 15:27, Andrei Popescu wrote:
> At least it's related to Linux :)
>
> To make it short here is the link:
> http://www.petitiononline.com/ibpfl/petition.html
>
> If you liked StarCraft (and/or other Blizzard games) then please sign.
 Who needs StarCraft when you've got NetHack

>>> I need something because flightgear is a disappointment.
>>
>> NetHack will satisfy all your gaming needs.
>>
>> And if it doesn't, the Random Nethack Gods will bash you with the +4
>> Sceptre Of Might.
>>
> 
> But I take it you haven't located it...

Located???  The Sceptre Of Might?

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Re: OT: Petition: StarCraft 2 for Linux

2007-05-23 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom

Ron Johnson wrote:

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On 05/22/07 18:07, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote:

Ron Johnson wrote:

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On 05/22/07 15:27, Andrei Popescu wrote:

At least it's related to Linux :)

To make it short here is the link:
http://www.petitiononline.com/ibpfl/petition.html

If you liked StarCraft (and/or other Blizzard games) then please sign.

Who needs StarCraft when you've got NetHack


I need something because flightgear is a disappointment.


NetHack will satisfy all your gaming needs.

And if it doesn't, the Random Nethack Gods will bash you with the +4
Sceptre Of Might.



But I take it you haven't located it...

Hugo the Tenderfoot


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Re: OT: Petition: StarCraft 2 for Linux

2007-05-22 Thread Ron Johnson
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On 05/22/07 18:07, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote:
> Ron Johnson wrote:
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>> On 05/22/07 15:27, Andrei Popescu wrote:
>>> At least it's related to Linux :)
>>>
>>> To make it short here is the link:
>>> http://www.petitiononline.com/ibpfl/petition.html
>>>
>>> If you liked StarCraft (and/or other Blizzard games) then please sign.
>>
>> Who needs StarCraft when you've got NetHack
>>
> 
> I need something because flightgear is a disappointment.

NetHack will satisfy all your gaming needs.

And if it doesn't, the Random Nethack Gods will bash you with the +4
Sceptre Of Might.

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Re: OT: Petition: StarCraft 2 for Linux

2007-05-22 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom

Ron Johnson wrote:

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On 05/22/07 15:27, Andrei Popescu wrote:

At least it's related to Linux :)

To make it short here is the link:
http://www.petitiononline.com/ibpfl/petition.html

If you liked StarCraft (and/or other Blizzard games) then please sign.


Who needs StarCraft when you've got NetHack



I need something because flightgear is a disappointment.


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Re: OT: Petition: StarCraft 2 for Linux

2007-05-22 Thread Ron Johnson
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On 05/22/07 15:27, Andrei Popescu wrote:
> At least it's related to Linux :)
> 
> To make it short here is the link:
> http://www.petitiononline.com/ibpfl/petition.html
> 
> If you liked StarCraft (and/or other Blizzard games) then please sign.

Who needs StarCraft when you've got NetHack

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OT: Petition: StarCraft 2 for Linux

2007-05-22 Thread Andrei Popescu
At least it's related to Linux :)

To make it short here is the link:
http://www.petitiononline.com/ibpfl/petition.html

If you liked StarCraft (and/or other Blizzard games) then please sign.

Regards,
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