OT - Video card opinions
I've been a long time user of Nvidia for my video cards. I'm doing some upgrades to my machine and am considering a pair of Radeon HD 4830s in crossfire mode. I'm stuck between that or sticking with Nvidia and going for a GeForce 9800GT. My understanding is the combination of the two Radeon's in crossfire will blow away the Nvidia performance wise. I'd like to know any opinions concerning this choice and also are there any configuration issues with the pair of Radeon cards in X. Thanks in advance for your thoughts, Mike -- This message transmitted on 100% recycled electrons. 07:00:01 up 4 days, 9:08, 2 users, load average: 0.24, 0.24, 0.19 Linux Registered User #241685 http://counter.li.org -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: OT - Video card opinions
I've been a long time user of Nvidia for my video cards. I'm doing some upgrades to my machine and am considering a pair of Radeon HD 4830s in crossfire mode. I'm stuck between that or sticking with Nvidia and going for a GeForce 9800GT. My understanding is the combination of the two Radeon's in crossfire will blow away the Nvidia performance wise. I'd like to know any opinions concerning this choice and also are there any configuration issues with the pair of Radeon cards in X. Thanks in advance for your thoughts, Mike What are you using the machines for? Gaming? On Linux? -- Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: OT - Video card opinions
Dotan Cohen wrote: I've been a long time user of Nvidia for my video cards. I'm doing some upgrades to my machine and am considering a pair of Radeon HD 4830s in crossfire mode. I'm stuck between that or sticking with Nvidia and going for a GeForce 9800GT. My understanding is the combination of the two Radeon's in crossfire will blow away the Nvidia performance wise. I'd like to know any opinions concerning this choice and also are there any configuration issues with the pair of Radeon cards in X. Thanks in advance for your thoughts, Mike What are you using the machines for? Gaming? On Linux? General workstation, Linux. Perhaps gaming, although that would be a very small portion of the consideration. -- IBM: Intersmashable Byte manipulators 07:25:01 up 4 days, 9:33, 2 users, load average: 0.55, 0.43, 0.37 Linux Registered User #241685 http://counter.li.org -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: OT - Video card opinions
upgrades to my machine and am considering a pair of Radeon HD 4830s in crossfire mode. I'm stuck between that or sticking with Nvidia and going for a GeForce 9800GT. My understanding is the combination of the two Radeon's in crossfire will blow away the Nvidia performance wise. General workstation, Linux. Perhaps gaming, although that would be a very small portion of the consideration. None of the options you mention will be at all challenged by general workstation use. Personally I'm running a GeForce 9800GT and find it more than adequate for my gaming needs. In my experience, upgrading wine versions has given more performance payoff than upgrading video cards. Basically, for the use you describe, don't worry about performance; save your money. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: OT - Video card opinions
On Sun, Apr 5, 2009 at 05:11, M. Lewis ca...@cajuninc.com wrote: I've been a long time user of Nvidia for my video cards. I'm doing some upgrades to my machine and am considering a pair of Radeon HD 4830s in crossfire mode. I'm stuck between that or sticking with Nvidia and going for a GeForce 9800GT. My understanding is the combination of the two Radeon's in crossfire will blow away the Nvidia performance wise. Well, yes in 3d mode, when used for games (or GPGPU). For 2d stuff, I don't think there is much difference, and for basic 3d (such as compiz fusion), *any* Radeon 4xxx or GeForce 9xxx series will be more than enough. I'd like to know any opinions concerning this choice and also are there any configuration issues with the pair of Radeon cards in X. I actually have no idea what the crossfire situation on Linux is. For the Nvidia, you have the 2d FOSS driver or the 3d binary driver, and that will not change for some time. For ATI, you have working 2d from the FOSS RadeonHD driver, and 3d from the binary driver. However, 3d support is coming along quite well in RadeonHD, it might be ready in 6 months or so. These days, the binary ati driver is better than the binary nvidia driver. If I was going to get a fairly powerful video card right now, I would get an r500 series Radeon (Radeon 1xxx), and use the Radeon driver for 2d and 3d. If I was going to wait, I would wait till q3/q4 of this year and assess the driver situation for the Radeon 4xxx series. Cheers, Kelly Clowers -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: OT - Video card opinions
Kelly Clowers wrote: On Sun, Apr 5, 2009 at 05:11, M. Lewis ca...@cajuninc.com wrote: I've been a long time user of Nvidia for my video cards. I'm doing some upgrades to my machine and am considering a pair of Radeon HD 4830s in crossfire mode. I'm stuck between that or sticking with Nvidia and going for a GeForce 9800GT. My understanding is the combination of the two Radeon's in crossfire will blow away the Nvidia performance wise. Well, yes in 3d mode, when used for games (or GPGPU). For 2d stuff, I don't think there is much difference, and for basic 3d (such as compiz fusion), *any* Radeon 4xxx or GeForce 9xxx series will be more than enough. I'd like to know any opinions concerning this choice and also are there any configuration issues with the pair of Radeon cards in X. I actually have no idea what the crossfire situation on Linux is. For the Nvidia, you have the 2d FOSS driver or the 3d binary driver, and that will not change for some time. For ATI, you have working 2d from the FOSS RadeonHD driver, and 3d from the binary driver. However, 3d support is coming along quite well in RadeonHD, it might be ready in 6 months or so. These days, the binary ati driver is better than the binary nvidia driver. If I was going to get a fairly powerful video card right now, I would get an r500 series Radeon (Radeon 1xxx), and use the Radeon driver for 2d and 3d. If I was going to wait, I would wait till q3/q4 of this year and assess the driver situation for the Radeon 4xxx series. Cheers, Kelly Clowers Thanks Kelly Jeff. That is exactly the type of information I was looking for. Thanks, Mike -- Life isn't fair. Having the root password helps. 17:00:01 up 4 days, 19:08, 2 users, load average: 0.16, 0.08, 0.07 Linux Registered User #241685 http://counter.li.org -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: OT - Video card opinions
M. Lewis wrote: Kelly Clowers wrote: On Sun, Apr 5, 2009 at 05:11, M. Lewis ca...@cajuninc.com wrote: I've been a long time user of Nvidia for my video cards. I'm doing some upgrades to my machine and am considering a pair of Radeon HD 4830s in crossfire mode. I'm stuck between that or sticking with Nvidia and going for a GeForce 9800GT. My understanding is the combination of the two Radeon's in crossfire will blow away the Nvidia performance wise. Well, yes in 3d mode, when used for games (or GPGPU). For 2d stuff, I don't think there is much difference, and for basic 3d (such as compiz fusion), *any* Radeon 4xxx or GeForce 9xxx series will be more than enough. My understanding is that two NVidia 280s in SLI will still beat two ATI/AMD in Crossfire, but it doesn't really matter much which you use, they are both adequate. I hear that ATI is producing an open source driver, although as yet it is not ready for prime time. In the future, when a good driver for Linux is available, ATI may well be the way to go. I'd like to know any opinions concerning this choice and also are there any configuration issues with the pair of Radeon cards in X. I actually have no idea what the crossfire situation on Linux is. For the Nvidia, you have the 2d FOSS driver or the 3d binary driver, and that will not change for some time. For ATI, you have working 2d from the FOSS RadeonHD driver, and 3d from the binary driver. However, 3d support is coming along quite well in RadeonHD, it might be ready in 6 months or so. These days, the binary ati driver is better than the binary nvidia driver. If I was going to get a fairly powerful video card right now, I would get an r500 series Radeon (Radeon 1xxx), and use the Radeon driver for 2d and 3d. If I was going to wait, I would wait till q3/q4 of this year and assess the driver situation for the Radeon 4xxx series. Cheers, Kelly Clowers Thanks Kelly Jeff. That is exactly the type of information I was looking for. Thanks, Mike I concur will everything Kelly Clowers said, except that I would add that Intel is not standing still, the project codenamed Larrabee seems interesting. But OP wants to know how to go right now, not in the vague future. So, I would say, if you are comfortable with NVidia, that is fine, if you want to try the red team, ATI is okay too. Not really that helpful, but I think getting a more recent card is better than going cheap and getting the last generation. MArk Allums -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
