Re: On downloading Debian ISOs
john gennard wrote: Rakhesh Sasidharan wrote: Oops! :) I downloaded the Debian 3.0r2 ISO (the first and half of the second). Guess I'll wait till 3.1 is released then, right? Rakhesh Full official CD images of Sarge (Testing) are released weekly and available on www.debian.org ( 'CD iso images' --> 'Fetch full Cd images' --> 'Official CD images of the "testing distribution"' --> etc). Earlier today I downloaded CD1 - after burning to a CD, it installed 'like a dream' in less than 20 minutes. So you need not wait for the 3.1 to be released. Thanks. Was just going to ask if CD images of Sarge Testing are available (coz I saw in another post that its ok to install Sarge Testing and then use some command to update to the stable release). :) Rakhesh -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: On downloading Debian ISOs
Rakhesh Sasidharan wrote: Oops! :) I downloaded the Debian 3.0r2 ISO (the first and half of the second). Guess I'll wait till 3.1 is released then, right? Rakhesh Full official CD images of Sarge (Testing) are released weekly and available on www.debian.org ( 'CD iso images' --> 'Fetch full Cd images' --> 'Official CD images of the "testing distribution"' --> etc). Earlier today I downloaded CD1 - after burning to a CD, it installed 'like a dream' in less than 20 minutes. So you need not wait for the 3.1 to be released. John
Re: On downloading Debian ISOs
On Tue, 2004-08-17 at 08:30, Rakhesh Sasidharan wrote: > On Mon, 16 Aug 2004 15:11:54 -0400 (EDT), "Loki" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > > > > However, keep in mind that the more disks you download at work (via > > broadband) the fewer packages you're going to have to download at home > > (via dialup). > > Yeah ... that's the reason I am trying to get as much as possible at > work. > > > It's also not a bad idea to Google for the ISO filenames. I got much > > quicker downloading access by spreading my downloads across a number of > > 'unofficial' mirrors that aren't listed at debian.org. > > Thanks for that tip. :) you may also think about using apt-mirror, on a removable harddrive at work, you can then move this disk back and forth, and allways have your local mirror updated to the latest. this way you can do your installs the debian way and you allways have all the packages available. and apt-mirror downloads debs using ftp/http so you shoudnt have problems with your firewall/proxy -- Ronny Aasen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: On downloading Debian ISOs
On Tue, Aug 17, 2004 at 10:30:37AM +0400, Rakhesh Sasidharan wrote: > > On Mon, 16 Aug 2004 15:11:54 -0400 (EDT), "Loki" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > > > > However, keep in mind that the more disks you download at work (via > > broadband) the fewer packages you're going to have to download at home > > (via dialup). > > Yeah ... that's the reason I am trying to get as much as possible at > work. > > > It's also not a bad idea to Google for the ISO filenames. I got much > > quicker downloading access by spreading my downloads across a number of > > 'unofficial' mirrors that aren't listed at debian.org. > > Thanks for that tip. :) Hi Raksesh, the easy way to do it is to get the first cd. Debian makes the ISO's based on what people really use. The first cd has the most widely used software. So once you download and install the first cd, you will have 95% of the software you will need. After that, you can search the debian site to see what you want to get. -Kev -- (__) (oo) /--\/ / ||| * /\---/\ ~~ ~~ "Have you mooed today?"... signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: On downloading Debian ISOs
On Mon, 16 Aug 2004 15:11:54 -0400 (EDT), "Loki" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > > However, keep in mind that the more disks you download at work (via > broadband) the fewer packages you're going to have to download at home > (via dialup). Yeah ... that's the reason I am trying to get as much as possible at work. > It's also not a bad idea to Google for the ISO filenames. I got much > quicker downloading access by spreading my downloads across a number of > 'unofficial' mirrors that aren't listed at debian.org. Thanks for that tip. :) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: On downloading Debian ISOs
On Tue, 17 Aug 2004 09:38:23 +1200, "Simon Kitching" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > Just as a side-note, I hope you didn't download the "Woody" (Debian 3.0) > files. The new release is due out *very* soon, and is a major > improvement over the previous version. Unless you are are intending to > set up a production server, you will probably be best off downloading > the "testing" version, ie what will become the stable version shortly. > In particular, the installation process is vastly improved. Oops! :) I downloaded the Debian 3.0r2 ISO (the first and half of the second). Guess I'll wait till 3.1 is released then, right? Thanks a lot for writing that in. Would have been a tragedy for me to realize that after downloading with so much effort, a new version has been released! :) Rakhesh ps. Is it me, or does everyone NOT get copies of mails they send to the list? I noted in the confirmation mail from this list that by default my mails will be returned to me, but I do not seem to be getting any. Strange ... -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: On downloading Debian ISOs
On Mon, 2004-08-16 at 20:59, Rakhesh Sasidharan wrote: > Hi! > > Have been wanting to try out Debian for so long, but never managed to > get my hands on it. Finally I land up at this client site where we have > a good net access, and so am thinking of downloading the ISOs to give > them a shot on my home machine. Hi Rakesh, Just as a side-note, I hope you didn't download the "Woody" (Debian 3.0) files. The new release is due out *very* soon, and is a major improvement over the previous version. Unless you are are intending to set up a production server, you will probably be best off downloading the "testing" version, ie what will become the stable version shortly. In particular, the installation process is vastly improved. The current "testing" version is called "Sarge", and will probably be released as Debian 3.1, though I think it deserves to be Debian 4.0. > Unfortunately the proxy and firewalls here do not allow me to use jigdo As noted earlier, Jigdo just uses HTTP, so it should work for you. Regards, Simon -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: On downloading Debian ISOs
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Mon, 16 Aug 2004, Rakhesh Sasidharan wrote: > Unfortunately the proxy and firewalls here do not allow me to use jigdo > or bit-torrent, and so the only way for me to download the ISOs are by > downloading them directly. Over a day or two I managed to download the > first of the ISO files. After downloading, I figure that maybe I should > have downloaded the non-US version -- frankly, I hadn't noticed that > there's a non-US version too present -- and so am now thinking: is there > any way I can "convert" the US version ISO file into a non-US version? Not really. But you don't need to. > Maybe using jigdo or something (which I can do from home over my > dial-up). Or I can install with the US version and then fetch the non-US > packages or something? The latter. Debian has a non-US package download site that you can access via apt-get. The non-US ISOs basically just have a couple different packages on the CD. And frankly, these days, there isn't much on the non-US site anymore. My Woody disc set is the non-US version, but it doesn't really matter much. Back when there were different versions of PGP for US and non-US, it mattered, but now that we're all on GnuPG, it doesn't much anymore. > ps. One more question: how come there are SEVEN ISOs for download? Just > to get things up and running (and the with the typical end-user > applications) how many of these do I have to download? The first two. My Woody i386 set is the full 7-disk monster. However, my PPC set is just the first four. That's because I have broadband at home though. :) At one point, I needed to put Woody on an i386 laptop with no network access, and so I grabbed them all. Basically, everything after the first disk is just packages. Most of your common packages are on disk 2; disk 1 contains the installer plus the Absolutely Essential Packages to boot. I did install a few packages off disk 6 on that laptop though, and I think once I used disk 7. However, keep in mind that the more disks you download at work (via broadband) the fewer packages you're going to have to download at home (via dialup). It's also not a bad idea to Google for the ISO filenames. I got much quicker downloading access by spreading my downloads across a number of 'unofficial' mirrors that aren't listed at debian.org. It's also possible, incidentally, to install Debian via a floppy installer, even these days. You need network access during the install to make that work, though. - -- GnuPG public key available from http://ca.geocities.com/redvision.geo/gnupg_key.html -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.5 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFBIQcQMqUhaD+LmFcRAj1BAJ47nJLSGzO3/IQFXxqT6OSyTbh9UACdEJ/Z z7fpJ9kAlw8j+82fiXDk3Ik= =A+fo -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: On downloading Debian ISOs
On Mon, 16 Aug 2004 11:31:24 +0200, "Mark Janssen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > On Mon, 2004-08-16 at 10:59, Rakhesh Sasidharan wrote: > > Unfortunately the proxy and firewalls here do not allow me to use jigdo > > Jigdo should be regular HTTP so that should work ? It should? Guess I must check it once again then. I tried running jigdo and it gave some errors ... but then I was too pressed for time here and so assumed its prolly something to do with the proxy and firewall etc (that's the reason bit torrent doesn't work for me, and I had spent a lot of time trying to get that to work). > > or bit-torrent, and so the only way for me to download the ISOs are by > > downloading them directly. Over a day or two I managed to download the > > first of the ISO files. After downloading, I figure that maybe I should > > have downloaded the non-US version -- frankly, I hadn't noticed that > > Nope... it'll work with the regular (us) version just as well ;) Thanks for that. :) > Debian is BIG, but you only need a netinst cd-image to get to a point > where you can run debian and install the rest via the internet > (http/ftp/nfs) > > With CD1 and 2 you should have more then enough to get a working system Yes, I figured. Some 8000+ packages right? Boy! :) :) So CD1 and CD2 should be more than enough to get things started ... great! Thanks again! Rakhesh -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: On downloading Debian ISOs
On Mon, 2004-08-16 at 10:59, Rakhesh Sasidharan wrote: > Unfortunately the proxy and firewalls here do not allow me to use jigdo Jigdo should be regular HTTP so that should work ? > or bit-torrent, and so the only way for me to download the ISOs are by > downloading them directly. Over a day or two I managed to download the > first of the ISO files. After downloading, I figure that maybe I should > have downloaded the non-US version -- frankly, I hadn't noticed that Nope... it'll work with the regular (us) version just as well ;) > there's a non-US version too present -- and so am now thinking: is there > any way I can "convert" the US version ISO file into a non-US version? Rsync... but as stated, that probably won't work for you > Maybe using jigdo or something (which I can do from home over my > dial-up). Or I can install with the US version and then fetch the non-US > packages or something? Just download the required packages after installation (regular upgrade) > ps. One more question: how come there are SEVEN ISOs for download? Just > to get things up and running (and the with the typical end-user > applications) how many of these do I have to download? Debian is BIG, but you only need a netinst cd-image to get to a point where you can run debian and install the rest via the internet (http/ftp/nfs) With CD1 and 2 you should have more then enough to get a working system -- Mark Janssen -- maniac(at)maniac.nl -- GnuPG Key Id: 357D2178 Unix / Linux, Open-Source and Internet Consultant @ SyConOS IT Maniac.nl Unix-God.Net|Org MarkJanssen.org|nl SyConOS.com|nl signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
On downloading Debian ISOs
Hi! Have been wanting to try out Debian for so long, but never managed to get my hands on it. Finally I land up at this client site where we have a good net access, and so am thinking of downloading the ISOs to give them a shot on my home machine. Unfortunately the proxy and firewalls here do not allow me to use jigdo or bit-torrent, and so the only way for me to download the ISOs are by downloading them directly. Over a day or two I managed to download the first of the ISO files. After downloading, I figure that maybe I should have downloaded the non-US version -- frankly, I hadn't noticed that there's a non-US version too present -- and so am now thinking: is there any way I can "convert" the US version ISO file into a non-US version? Maybe using jigdo or something (which I can do from home over my dial-up). Or I can install with the US version and then fetch the non-US packages or something? But that asked, is there anything specifically missing in the US-version that might be of use to an end-user? Based on briefly going through the FAQ etc, I understand the non-US version contains stuff (cryptographic etc) that are not present in the US version ... is there anything more (critical/ useful)? Thanks in advance, Rakhesh ps. One more question: how come there are SEVEN ISOs for download? Just to get things up and running (and the with the typical end-user applications) how many of these do I have to download? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
