Re: PUPPIES FOR SALE

2008-02-06 Thread Michelle Konzack
Am 2008-02-01 06:32:34, schrieb Ron Johnson:
 On 01/30/08 17:17, Michelle Konzack wrote:
  I would filter for UPPER case only subjects since to 99.99% they are spam.
 
 OR AOL USERS.

N.C.  :-)


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Re: PUPPIES FOR SALE

2008-02-06 Thread Michelle Konzack
Am 2008-01-30 22:40:27, schrieb mouss:
 so we can no more discuss Puppy Linux or the Puppy package manager on 
 debian lists?
 
 keyword filtering on general public lists is risky. I wonder if training 
 bayes with a large corpus would help (the problem is what spam to use in 
 the corpus).

This WHY I would use the UPPERCASE ONLY filter.

Or if number of UPPERCASE_LETTERS  60%
of all characters in a subject line...

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Re: PUPPIES FOR SALE

2008-02-01 Thread Michelle Konzack
Am 2008-01-30 08:46:51, schrieb Paul Cartwright:
 On Wed January 30 2008, David Baron wrote:
  OK spamassassin folks: Rules which would say no puppies on software mailing
  lists, no software on dog-breeders mailing lists. A few false alarms, i.e.
  that great new app is such a sweet-puppie and that breeder's management
  package is a killer app (or is that a yap?).
 
 so, you are saying I will need to add a spamassassin rule for specific words, 
 such as dxxdo, puppy, cat, kittie, then hope people don't put words like that 
 in a real sentence?
 
 The email at least had real sentences, no extraneous words at the bottom ,and 
 no gif files with crap in them. I'm sure game for tweaking spamassassin, I 
 need to learn more about the %'s and numbering system..

I would filter for UPPER case only subjects since to 99.99% they are spam.

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Re: PUPPIES FOR SALE

2008-02-01 Thread Michelle Konzack
Am 2008-01-29 18:34:57, schrieb [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 
 Hello,
 I am kathy barry by the by the name,i have two puppies of whose breed
 are tcup yorkies and english bull dog for sale.The puppies comes with
 akc,ckc papers,1 yr health gurantee and they got thier 1st shot.

Can I use them as watchdog for my servers?  :-)

The Kernel-Software watchdog drives me crazzy!

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Re: PUPPIES FOR SALE-now spam filter

2008-02-01 Thread Paul Cartwright
On Wed January 30 2008, Michelle Konzack wrote:
 I would filter for UPPER case only subjects since to 99.99% they are spam.

that sounds something like:
select SUBJECT, matches regular expression, THEN_WHAT..
I don't do regular expressions..

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Re: PUPPIES FOR SALE

2008-02-01 Thread Ron Johnson
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On 01/30/08 17:17, Michelle Konzack wrote:
 Am 2008-01-30 08:46:51, schrieb Paul Cartwright:
 On Wed January 30 2008, David Baron wrote:
 OK spamassassin folks: Rules which would say no puppies on software mailing
 lists, no software on dog-breeders mailing lists. A few false alarms, i.e.
 that great new app is such a sweet-puppie and that breeder's management
 package is a killer app (or is that a yap?).
 so, you are saying I will need to add a spamassassin rule for specific 
 words, 
 such as dxxdo, puppy, cat, kittie, then hope people don't put words like 
 that 
 in a real sentence?

 The email at least had real sentences, no extraneous words at the bottom 
 ,and 
 no gif files with crap in them. I'm sure game for tweaking spamassassin, I 
 need to learn more about the %'s and numbering system..
 
 I would filter for UPPER case only subjects since to 99.99% they are spam.

OR AOL USERS.

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Re: PUPPIES FOR SALE

2008-02-01 Thread Chris Bannister
On Tue, Jan 29, 2008 at 03:42:22PM -0500, Paul Cartwright wrote:
 On Tue January 29 2008, Nigel Henry wrote:
  First of all, let me say a big thank you, as it proves that my spamfilter
  is not yet filtering out spam from the Debian mailing list.
 
 I'd be interested in a filter that would work on a message like that.. Not 
 sure what the difference is between a message about puppies and a message 
 about ndiswrapper.. Not sure if ndiswrapper is in the dictionary, but puppies 
 is. If someone DIDN'T get that last message, would you please raise your 
 hand??

Isn't that like, If you can't hear me at the back, please raise your
hand?

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Re: PUPPIES FOR SALE

2008-02-01 Thread Gabriel Parrondo

El sáb, 02-02-2008 a las 11:10 +1300, Chris Bannister escribió:
 On Tue, Jan 29, 2008 at 03:42:22PM -0500, Paul Cartwright wrote:
  On Tue January 29 2008, Nigel Henry wrote:
   First of all, let me say a big thank you, as it proves that my spamfilter
   is not yet filtering out spam from the Debian mailing list.
  
  I'd be interested in a filter that would work on a message like that.. Not 
  sure what the difference is between a message about puppies and a message 
  about ndiswrapper.. Not sure if ndiswrapper is in the dictionary, but 
  puppies 
  is. If someone DIDN'T get that last message, would you please raise your 
  hand??
 
 Isn't that like, If you can't hear me at the back, please raise your
 hand?
 

Unless he was trying to say If someone didn't understand the implicit
message

But who knows...

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keyword filtering or bayes, WAS- Re: PUPPIES FOR SALE

2008-01-31 Thread Paul Cartwright
On Wed January 30 2008, mouss wrote:
 so we can no more discuss Puppy Linux or the Puppy package manager on
 debian lists?
yes!

 keyword filtering on general public lists is risky. I wonder if training
 bayes with a large corpus would help (the problem is what spam to use in
 the corpus).

I was wondering about filtering on words, ANY words, that would appear in a 
regular conversation.
Besides selecting files as spam, how would you train any program to spot one 
complete paragraph vs. another? I'm not sure that original post was as much 
spam as inappropriate or a troll.. wouldn't it be great if you could create a 
spam/troll filter! spamatrollin :)

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Re: keyword filtering or bayes, WAS- Re: PUPPIES FOR SALE

2008-01-31 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Thu, Jan 31, 2008 at 01:29:32PM -0500, Paul Cartwright wrote:
 I'm not sure that original post was as much 
 spam as inappropriate or a troll..

I agree. It was mostly just inappropriate. And it lacked a lot of the
key signs of spam so even a well trained spam filter would likely have
missed it.

 wouldn't it be great if you could create a 
 spam/troll filter! spamatrollin :)

Trollassassin!

The SPCT would probably have a problem with that.

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Re: PUPPIES FOR SALE

2008-01-30 Thread Paul Cartwright
On Wed January 30 2008, David Baron wrote:
 OK spamassassin folks: Rules which would say no puppies on software mailing
 lists, no software on dog-breeders mailing lists. A few false alarms, i.e.
 that great new app is such a sweet-puppie and that breeder's management
 package is a killer app (or is that a yap?).

so, you are saying I will need to add a spamassassin rule for specific words, 
such as dxxdo, puppy, cat, kittie, then hope people don't put words like that 
in a real sentence?

The email at least had real sentences, no extraneous words at the bottom ,and 
no gif files with crap in them. I'm sure game for tweaking spamassassin, I 
need to learn more about the %'s and numbering system..

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Re: PUPPIES FOR SALE

2008-01-30 Thread John Hardin
On Wed, 2008-01-30 at 08:38 +0200, David Baron wrote:

 OK spamassassin folks: Rules which would say no puppies on software mailing 
 lists, no software on dog-breeders mailing lists. A few false alarms, i.e. 
 that great new app is such a sweet-puppie and that breeder's management 
 package is a killer app (or is that a yap?).

(1) Some __ rules to detect the mailing lists from the headers (assuming
the list manager puts in nice mailing list headers), like
   header __LIST_DEBIAN List_ID =~ /\.debian\./

(2) Some content-specific __ rules, like 
   body __PUPPIES /\bpupp(?:y|ies)\b/i

(3) meta them together for scoring
   meta DEBIAN_PUPPIES (__LIST_DEBIAN  __PUPPIES)
   score DEBIAN_PUPPIES 1.00

Repeat as needed.

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Re: PUPPIES FOR SALE

2008-01-30 Thread mouss

John Hardin wrote:

On Wed, 2008-01-30 at 08:38 +0200, David Baron wrote:

  
OK spamassassin folks: Rules which would say no puppies on software mailing 
lists, no software on dog-breeders mailing lists. A few false alarms, i.e. 
that great new app is such a sweet-puppie and that breeder's management 
package is a killer app (or is that a yap?).



(1) Some __ rules to detect the mailing lists from the headers (assuming
the list manager puts in nice mailing list headers), like
   header __LIST_DEBIAN List_ID =~ /\.debian\./

(2) Some content-specific __ rules, like 
   body __PUPPIES /\bpupp(?:y|ies)\b/i


(3) meta them together for scoring
   meta DEBIAN_PUPPIES (__LIST_DEBIAN  __PUPPIES)
   score DEBIAN_PUPPIES 1.00

Repeat as needed.
  


so we can no more discuss Puppy Linux or the Puppy package manager on 
debian lists?


keyword filtering on general public lists is risky. I wonder if training 
bayes with a large corpus would help (the problem is what spam to use in 
the corpus).




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Re: PUPPIES FOR SALE

2008-01-29 Thread Gerard Robin

On Tue, Jan 29, 2008 at 06:34:57PM +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: PUPPIES FOR SALE
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

There is a very nice puppy (free): 
http://www.puppylinux.org/user/viewpage.php?page_id=1

best regards.

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Re: PUPPIES FOR SALE

2008-01-29 Thread Nigel Henry
On Tuesday 29 January 2008 18:34, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hello,
 I am kathy barry by the by the name,i have two puppies of whose breed are
 tcup yorkies and english bull dog for sale.The puppies comes with akc,ckc
 papers,1 yr health gurantee and they got thier 1st shot.

 I am giving this puppies out for sale because i will be going for a tourism
 and do not have people who can help me take good care of them,that is why i
 am finding good home for those puppies,if you know yo would be interested
 in purchasing this puppies contact me @[EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Thanks

 Kathy barry

First of all, let me say a big thank you, as it proves that my spamfilter is 
not yet filtering out spam from the Debian mailing list.

Next. I have a dog, but I don't believe you have any puppies. They are just 
fictional creatures, created by you for the express purpose of extracting 
money from easily influenced folks who respond to this violin playing,  and 
as to what's going to happen to these poor little puppies if nobody comes 
along and gives them a good home.

If your I will be going for a tourism, and bad grammar at that, but presume 
you won't be around to look after these poor little puppies that don't exist. 
Why don't you just bring out your shotgun, put the poor little puppies in the 
backyard, and blow them away. Of course, they don't exist, so you can't do 
that, as your are just another spammer/scammer trying to make a fast buck out 
of somebody that responds to this sort of crap.

Apologies to the list for this reply. I've been trying to hard to get 
bogofilter to remove spam from mailing lists, and this post has proved that 
my efforts have failed up to now, as it turned up in the Debian mailbox.

I do wish that I could find a way to get bogofilter to deal with mailing list 
spam. Unfortunately it's an ongoing problem.

Nigel (Seriously pissed off at the spam problem)






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PUPPIES FOR SALE

2008-01-29 Thread kathybarryy

Hello,
I am kathy barry by the by the name,i have two puppies of whose breed are tcup 
yorkies and english bull dog for sale.The puppies comes with akc,ckc papers,1 
yr health gurantee and they got thier 1st shot.

I am giving this puppies out for sale because i will be going for a tourism and 
do not have people who can help me take good care of them,that is why i am 
finding good home for those puppies,if you know yo would be interested in 
purchasing this puppies contact me @[EMAIL PROTECTED] 

Thanks 

Kathy barry




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Re: PUPPIES FOR SALE

2008-01-29 Thread Paul Cartwright
On Tue January 29 2008, Nigel Henry wrote:
 First of all, let me say a big thank you, as it proves that my spamfilter
 is not yet filtering out spam from the Debian mailing list.

I'd be interested in a filter that would work on a message like that.. Not 
sure what the difference is between a message about puppies and a message 
about ndiswrapper.. Not sure if ndiswrapper is in the dictionary, but puppies 
is. If someone DIDN'T get that last message, would you please raise your 
hand??


 Next. I have a dog, but I don't believe you have any puppies. They are just
 fictional creatures, created by you for the express purpose of extracting
 money from easily influenced folks who respond to this violin playing,  and
 as to what's going to happen to these poor little puppies if nobody comes
 along and gives them a good home.

I have 2 dogs and a shotgun... and I have to pay someone to come stay at my 
house when we leave for more that 12 hours!
and I leave my Debian box up, and logged in to the guest account. Most of the 
people that dogsit are a little computer literate, enough to click on an open 
firefox browser:)


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Re: PUPPIES FOR SALE

2008-01-29 Thread Patter
On Tue, 29 Jan 2008 21:50:11 +0100, Paul Cartwright wrote:
 I'd be interested in a filter that would work on a message like that.. Not 
 sure what the difference is between a message about puppies and a message 
 about ndiswrapper.. Not sure if ndiswrapper is in the dictionary, but puppies 
 is. If someone DIDN'T get that last message, would you please raise your 
 hand??

Never mind discussions about puppy linux.

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Re: PUPPIES FOR SALE

2008-01-29 Thread s. keeling
Paul Cartwright [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
  On Tue January 29 2008, Nigel Henry wrote:
  First of all, let me say a big thank you, as it proves that my spamfilter
  is not yet filtering out spam from the Debian mailing list.
 
  I'd be interested in a filter that would work on a message like that.. Not 

Score: -29 % no lowercase found.
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Re: PUPPIES FOR SALE

2008-01-29 Thread David Baron
On Wednesday 30 January 2008, [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:
  First of all, let me say a big thank you, as it proves that my spamfilter
  is not yet filtering out spam from the Debian mailing list.

 I'd be interested in a filter that would work on a message like that.. Not
 sure what the difference is between a message about puppies and a message
 about ndiswrapper.. Not sure if ndiswrapper is in the dictionary, but
 puppies is. If someone DIDN'T get that last message, would you please raise
 your hand??

OK spamassassin folks: Rules which would say no puppies on software mailing 
lists, no software on dog-breeders mailing lists. A few false alarms, i.e. 
that great new app is such a sweet-puppie and that breeder's management 
package is a killer app (or is that a yap?).



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