Re: Please help with not booting from USB so to install Debian
On 10/6/23 00:22, Bret Busby wrote: On 10/6/23 00:05, Bret Busby wrote: On 9/6/23 23:34, Bret Busby wrote: On 9/6/23 18:43, Rodolfo Medina wrote: Rodolfo Medina writes: I want to install Debian on a new machine but don't manage to boot from USB stick. (I can do so regularly with another machine, so the USB stick is ok and so is the Debian netinst I burned onto it.) At the boot I press F9 and a menu appears where I can choose to boot from USB stick; but then it doesn't so at all booting instead into Windows 11. In BIOS I enabled the CSM protocol but nothing. Please help as I don't know what to do: thanks. Now I tried with a CDROM instead of a USB stick but the problem remains. Rodolfo I asked before, and have not seen an answer. Have you gone into the UEFI/BIOS, and turned off secure booting? .. Bret Busby Armadale West Australia (UTC+0800) .. You might want to read this; https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-users/2023-June/310491.html and, of course, after that procedure, in the system UEFI/BIOS, change the boot order to USB drive Optical (eg, DVD) drive (if the computer has one) HDD so that the computer should attempt to boot from the respective drives, in that order. It occurred to me, after posting the above message, that I should have worded that last part, slightly differently, for clarification; the "and, of course, after that procedure, in the system UEFI/BIOS, change the boot order to" should have been "and, of course, in that procedure, while still in the system UEFI/BIOS, between steps 2 and 3, change the boot order to". I hope that all of this, is helpful, and, credit for success, should go to Liam. .. Bret Busby Armadale West Australia (UTC+0800) .. In this, since I last posted, I remembered that, on one of my computers, on which I installed Linux Mint, whilst the BIOS was set to boot first from the USB input, it would not, so, I simply wrote a copy of the iso file to a DVD, and, booted from the DVD drive, and, installed from the DVD drive, without any problem. If the original poster has not yet been able to boot into a Linux iso file from the USB input, perhaps, providing the computer does have a DVD drive, the original poster could try the DVD method, and, tell us how successful that is. .. Bret Busby Armadale West Australia (UTC+0800) ..
Re: Please help with not booting from USB so to install Debian
Am Freitag, 9. Juni 2023, 18:37:14 CEST schrieb Stefan Monnier: Hi Stefan, this might e a problem of your BIOS. However, if your BIOS does not support booting from USB, here is a trick: You can download a bootable CD-Rom from this site: https://www.plop.at[1] Look for the Bootmgr. It is a live-cd., which is booting, then you can chose further boot from another media like USB. It helps, whenever your BIOS does not have the capability (i.e. it is too old), to boot from USB. Hope this helps. Good luck! Best Hans > > I want to install Debian on a new machine but don't manage to boot > > from USB stick. (I can do so regularly with another machine, so the > > USB stick is ok and so is the Debian netinst I burned onto it.) At > > the boot I press F9 and a menu appears where I can choose to boot from > > USB stick; but then it doesn't so at all booting instead into Windows > > 11. In BIOS I enabled the CSM protocol but nothing. Please help as > > I don't know what to do: thanks. > > I don't have experience with your specific problem and after reading the > rest of the thread, I'm not sure what might be the problem or how to fix > it, but faced with this, I think I'd try to open the machine up and > remove the "disk" to which it boots (i.e. the one with Window-11 on it). > > Not sure it would fix the problem, but if not I'd hope it might give > further hints. > > > Stefan [1] https://www.plop.at
Re: Please help with not booting from USB so to install Debian
On 6/8/23 11:36, Rodolfo Medina wrote: I want to install Debian on a new machine but don't manage to boot from USB stick. (I can do so regularly with another machine, so the USB stick is ok and so is the Debian netinst I burned onto it.) At the boot I press F9 and a menu appears where I can choose to boot from USB stick; but then it doesn't so at all booting instead into Windows 11. In BIOS I enabled the CSM protocol but nothing. Please help as I don't know what to do: thanks. Rodolfo (after reading the other comments) I recently had a similar issue with a HP 840G3 laptop after editing the BIOS to disable secure boot and setting the boot order no joy. I discovered that holding down F9 and then pressing the power button it goes directly into BIOS boot menu. THEN selecting the USB drive from the list it works. maybe your laptop has some such direct boot path option best of luck
Re: Please help with not booting from USB so to install Debian
> I want to install Debian on a new machine but don't manage to boot > from USB stick. (I can do so regularly with another machine, so the > USB stick is ok and so is the Debian netinst I burned onto it.) At > the boot I press F9 and a menu appears where I can choose to boot from > USB stick; but then it doesn't so at all booting instead into Windows > 11. In BIOS I enabled the CSM protocol but nothing. Please help as > I don't know what to do: thanks. I don't have experience with your specific problem and after reading the rest of the thread, I'm not sure what might be the problem or how to fix it, but faced with this, I think I'd try to open the machine up and remove the "disk" to which it boots (i.e. the one with Window-11 on it). Not sure it would fix the problem, but if not I'd hope it might give further hints. Stefan
Re: Please help with not booting from USB so to install Debian
On 9/6/23 23:34, Bret Busby wrote: On 9/6/23 18:43, Rodolfo Medina wrote: Rodolfo Medina writes: I want to install Debian on a new machine but don't manage to boot from USB stick. (I can do so regularly with another machine, so the USB stick is ok and so is the Debian netinst I burned onto it.) At the boot I press F9 and a menu appears where I can choose to boot from USB stick; but then it doesn't so at all booting instead into Windows 11. In BIOS I enabled the CSM protocol but nothing. Please help as I don't know what to do: thanks. Now I tried with a CDROM instead of a USB stick but the problem remains. Rodolfo I asked before, and have not seen an answer. Have you gone into the UEFI/BIOS, and turned off secure booting? .. Bret Busby Armadale West Australia (UTC+0800) .. You might want to read this; https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-users/2023-June/310491.html and, of course, after that procedure, in the system UEFI/BIOS, change the boot order to USB drive Optical (eg, DVD) drive (if the computer has one) HDD so that the computer should attempt to boot from the respective drives, in that order. .. Bret Busby Armadale West Australia (UTC+0800) ..
Re: Please help with not booting from USB so to install Debian
On 10/6/23 00:05, Bret Busby wrote: On 9/6/23 23:34, Bret Busby wrote: On 9/6/23 18:43, Rodolfo Medina wrote: Rodolfo Medina writes: I want to install Debian on a new machine but don't manage to boot from USB stick. (I can do so regularly with another machine, so the USB stick is ok and so is the Debian netinst I burned onto it.) At the boot I press F9 and a menu appears where I can choose to boot from USB stick; but then it doesn't so at all booting instead into Windows 11. In BIOS I enabled the CSM protocol but nothing. Please help as I don't know what to do: thanks. Now I tried with a CDROM instead of a USB stick but the problem remains. Rodolfo I asked before, and have not seen an answer. Have you gone into the UEFI/BIOS, and turned off secure booting? .. Bret Busby Armadale West Australia (UTC+0800) .. You might want to read this; https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-users/2023-June/310491.html and, of course, after that procedure, in the system UEFI/BIOS, change the boot order to USB drive Optical (eg, DVD) drive (if the computer has one) HDD so that the computer should attempt to boot from the respective drives, in that order. It occurred to me, after posting the above message, that I should have worded that last part, slightly differently, for clarification; the "and, of course, after that procedure, in the system UEFI/BIOS, change the boot order to" should have been "and, of course, in that procedure, while still in the system UEFI/BIOS, between steps 2 and 3, change the boot order to". I hope that all of this, is helpful, and, credit for success, should go to Liam. .. Bret Busby Armadale West Australia (UTC+0800) ..
Re: Please help with not booting from USB so to install Debian
On 9/6/23 18:43, Rodolfo Medina wrote: Rodolfo Medina writes: I want to install Debian on a new machine but don't manage to boot from USB stick. (I can do so regularly with another machine, so the USB stick is ok and so is the Debian netinst I burned onto it.) At the boot I press F9 and a menu appears where I can choose to boot from USB stick; but then it doesn't so at all booting instead into Windows 11. In BIOS I enabled the CSM protocol but nothing. Please help as I don't know what to do: thanks. Now I tried with a CDROM instead of a USB stick but the problem remains. Rodolfo I asked before, and have not seen an answer. Have you gone into the UEFI/BIOS, and turned off secure booting? .. Bret Busby Armadale West Australia (UTC+0800) ..
Re: Please help with not booting from USB so to install Debian
On 09/06/2023 17:54, Rodolfo Medina wrote: ...And now I tried even with an MS Windows 10 installation CDROM but the problem remains! Check what devices are enabled in boot settings in system setup (BIOS or firmware setting). When you switching off a computer with windows, perhaps actually it performs suspend do disk (hibernate), not shutdown. Alternative boot options may be disabled when system is resumed from hibernation. Ensure that you namely *shutdown* windows. The following page suggests that it may be configured in "System and Security". Perhaps some modifier (Alt or Shift) may unveil additional options related to the power item of the start menu. https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/shut-down-sleep-or-hibernate-your-pc-2941d165-7d0a-a5e8-c5ad-8c972e8e6eff
Re: Please help with not booting from USB so to install Debian
On Fri, 9 Jun 2023, Rodolfo Medina wrote: Rodolfo Medina writes: Rodolfo Medina writes: I want to install Debian on a new machine but don't manage to boot from USB stick. (I can do so regularly with another machine, so the USB stick is ok and so is the Debian netinst I burned onto it.) At the boot I press F9 and a menu appears where I can choose to boot from USB stick; but then it doesn't so at all booting instead into Windows 11. In BIOS I enabled the CSM protocol but nothing. Please help as I don't know what to do: thanks. Now I tried with a CDROM instead of a USB stick but the problem remains. ...And now I tried even with an MS Windows 10 installation CDROM but the problem remains! I may have missed it: have you tried going into Windows 10 and into setup, looking for 'boot' in the search bar and select 'change advanced startup options'? then you go to "Advanced startup" and hit "Restart now"? When the machine reboots go into the BIOS/UEFI system and select your usb. Sorry if this has been proposed already and I missed it. Also sorry if it doesn't work. I have to do it if I want to boot from usb on my Acer laptop. fjd -- Verbum sat sapienti.
Re: Please help with not booting from USB so to install Debian
Rodolfo Medina writes: > Rodolfo Medina writes: > >> I want to install Debian on a new machine but don't manage to boot from USB >> stick. (I can do so regularly with another machine, so the USB stick is ok >> and so is the Debian netinst I burned onto it.) At the boot I press F9 and >> a menu appears where I can choose to boot from USB stick; but then it >> doesn't so at all booting instead into Windows 11. In BIOS I enabled the >> CSM protocol but nothing. Please help as I don't know what to do: thanks. > > > Now I tried with a CDROM instead of a USB stick but the problem remains. ...And now I tried even with an MS Windows 10 installation CDROM but the problem remains! Rodolfo
Re: Please help with not booting from USB so to install Debian
Rodolfo Medina writes: > I want to install Debian on a new machine but don't manage to boot from USB > stick. (I can do so regularly with another machine, so the USB stick is ok > and so is the Debian netinst I burned onto it.) At the boot I press F9 and a > menu appears where I can choose to boot from USB stick; but then it doesn't > so at all booting instead into Windows 11. In BIOS I enabled the CSM > protocol but nothing. Please help as I don't know what to do: thanks. Now I tried with a CDROM instead of a USB stick but the problem remains. Rodolfo
Re: Please help with not booting from USB so to install Debian
Am 08.06.2023 um 20:36 schrieb Rodolfo Medina: > I want to install Debian on a new machine but don't manage to boot from USB > stick. (I can do so regularly with another machine, so the USB stick is ok > and > so is the Debian netinst I burned onto it.) At the boot I press F9 and a menu > appears where I can choose to boot from USB stick; but then it doesn't so at > all > booting instead into Windows 11. In BIOS I enabled the CSM protocol but > nothing. Please help as I don't know what to do: thanks. > > Rodolfo > > Sorry, i have no experience with this concrete issue. Last time, i experienced USB boot issues, it did help to just use another USB-port instead. ;-) But honestly, i see many hints and advices are coming, but still the cause of the problem has not yet been identified, which would be my first attempt in any case. Since you confirm, that booting from the stick is possible on another machine, it cannot be, that the stick itself doesnt work. But does that other machine also have the same processor architecture (celeron ...)? IIRC it is possible to boot a 32-bit OS on a 64 bit machine (not recommended, but possible), whereas the other way round would just fail. Sure, in here Windooze is regarded as a nuisance, but even windows can inspect its boot config and determine, how the machine is coming up, if the disk has GPT or MBR (probably the first), and you might be able to find out, if your setup allows ANY booting from USB (like non flash storage). Even without aspiring for completeness, i was suggesting different areas being possibly of concern, like - hardware (usb, processor) - bios (setup) - version mismatch (partition tables, OS-architecture) - there may be more (like secret holes leading to hidden switches) Once the cause will be identified, it is going to be much easier (or just plain impossible) to remedy the problem. And please report back, what you found.
Re: Please help with not booting from USB so to install Debian
On 6/9/23 00:59, Rodolfo Medina wrote: David Christensen writes: On 6/8/23 11:36, Rodolfo Medina wrote: I want to install Debian on a new machine but don't manage to boot from USB stick. (I can do so regularly with another machine, so the USB stick is ok and so is the Debian netinst I burned onto it.) At the boot I press F9 and a menu appears where I can choose to boot from USB stick; but then it doesn't so at all booting instead into Windows 11. In BIOS I enabled the CSM protocol but nothing. Please help as I don't know what to do: thanks. On 6/8/23 13:01, Rodolfo Medina wrote: https://www.amazon.it/KUU-Notebook-Prozessor-Bluetooth-portatile/dp/B0C4TGXKBC/ref=sr_1_2_sspa?crid=3PK1MW55MAOA Do you want Windows/Debian dual-boot, or Debian only? At least one of the two. What I don't want is MS Windows only... ;-) Okay. I avoid dual-boot, so I will allow others more familiar with dual-boot help. David
Re: Please help with not booting from USB so to install Debian
Bret Busby writes: > If you go to > > https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-users/2022-July/thread.html > > and scroll down to the thread starting with the subject "Questions about > Linux Mint and this list", read that message, and, work your way through the > responses, especially, the ones from Liam Proven, you should be able to get > the answer that you seek. Thanks, but it is of no help, I'm afraid... Rodolfo
Re: Please help with not booting from USB so to install Debian
"Thomas Schmitt" writes: > I understand from the link that it has a 64 bit Celeron J4105 CPU. > So its EFI would want an "amd64" ISO. > > [...] > > You could try with > > https://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/current/amd64/iso-cd/debian-11.7.0-amd64-netinst.iso > and CSM disabled. Unfortunately, it won't boot either... Rodolfo
Re: Please help with not booting from USB so to install Debian
David Christensen writes: > On 6/8/23 11:36, Rodolfo Medina wrote: >> I want to install Debian on a new machine but don't manage to boot from USB >> stick. (I can do so regularly with another machine, so the USB stick is ok >> and >> so is the Debian netinst I burned onto it.) At the boot I press F9 and a >> menu >> appears where I can choose to boot from USB stick; but then it doesn't so at >> all >> booting instead into Windows 11. In BIOS I enabled the CSM protocol but >> nothing. Please help as I don't know what to do: thanks. > > On 6/8/23 13:01, Rodolfo Medina wrote: >> > > https://www.amazon.it/KUU-Notebook-Prozessor-Bluetooth-portatile/dp/B0C4TGXKBC/ref=sr_1_2_sspa?crid=3PK1MW55MAOA > > > Do you want Windows/Debian dual-boot, or Debian only? At least one of the two. What I don't want is MS Windows only... ;-) Rodolfo
Re: Please help with not booting from USB so to install Debian
Hi, i wrote: > > I understand from the link that it has a 64 bit Celeron J4105 CPU. > > So its EFI would want an "amd64" ISO. Charles Curley wrote: > A Celeron should be able to run i386 Debian. But the amd64 might be a > better use of its capabilities. Other than with legacy BIOS, EFI looks for different boot programs in the EFI System Partition's FAT filesystem: i386: \EFI\BOOT\BOOTIA32.EFI amd64: \EFI\BOOT\BOOTX64.EFI debian-11.7.0-i386-netinst.iso only offers BOOTIA32.EFI : mount debian-11.7.0-i386-netinst.iso /mnt/iso mount /mnt/iso/boot/grub/efi.img /mnt/fat find /mnt/fat So a normal amd64 EFI will not consider booting it. The MBR code for legacy BIOS should be usable for 64-bit and 32-bit alike. But Rodolfo Medina's machine seems not to like the USB stick in CSM mode. Have a nice day :) Thomas
Re: Please help with not booting from USB so to install Debian
You might want to read the manual with the computer. My Lenovo would boot automatically to Windows. In the manual, it had a hold on the side, trusty paperwork clip press the hole, boots into bios. Install Linux On Thu, Jun 8, 2023, 2:51 PM Bret Busby wrote: > On 9/6/23 05:18, Bret Busby wrote: > > On 9/6/23 05:02, Bret Busby wrote: > >> On 9/6/23 04:52, Rodolfo Medina wrote: > >>> Bret Busby writes: > >>> > My understanding is that Windows 11 computers have malware that is > designed > to prevent booting into anything other than the malicious Windows 11. > > A procedure to get around the Windows 11 malware, and to be able to > boot into > Linux, has, I believe, been described on the Ubuntu Users mailing > list. > >>> > >>> > >>> Can you perhaps point out a link to read that procedure? Thanks! > >>> > >>> Rodolfo > >>> > >> I have posted a query to the Ubuntu list, asking the person who I > >> believe, provided the procedure on that list, and, who has published > >> equivalent information for Windows 10. > >> > >> I seek his response. > >> > >> .. > >> Bret Busby > >> Armadale > >> West Australia > >> (UTC+0800) > >> .. > > Have you disabled "secure boot" on your Windows 11 PC? > > > > .. > > Bret Busby > > Armadale > > West Australia > > (UTC+0800) > > .. > > If you go to > > https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-users/2022-July/thread.html > > and scroll down to the thread starting with the subject "Questions about > Linux Mint and this list", read that message, and, work your way through > the responses, especially, the ones from Liam Proven, you should be able > to get the answer that you seek. > > .. > Bret Busby > Armadale > West Australia > (UTC+0800) > .. > >
Re: Please help with not booting from USB so to install Debian
On 6/8/23 11:36, Rodolfo Medina wrote: I want to install Debian on a new machine but don't manage to boot from USB stick. (I can do so regularly with another machine, so the USB stick is ok and so is the Debian netinst I burned onto it.) At the boot I press F9 and a menu appears where I can choose to boot from USB stick; but then it doesn't so at all booting instead into Windows 11. In BIOS I enabled the CSM protocol but nothing. Please help as I don't know what to do: thanks. On 6/8/23 13:01, Rodolfo Medina wrote: > https://www.amazon.it/KUU-Notebook-Prozessor-Bluetooth-portatile/dp/B0C4TGXKBC/ref=sr_1_2_sspa?crid=3PK1MW55MAOA Do you want Windows/Debian dual-boot, or Debian only? David
Re: Please help with not booting from USB so to install Debian
On Thu 08 Jun 2023 at 15:36:27 (-0600), Charles Curley wrote: > On Thu, 08 Jun 2023 23:15:36 +0200 "Thomas Schmitt" wrote: > > > I understand from the link that it has a 64 bit Celeron J4105 CPU. > > So its EFI would want an "amd64" ISO. > > A Celeron should be able to run i386 Debian. But the amd64 might be a > better use of its capabilities. Perhaps we have to distinguish between "CPU can run 32-bits too" and "a particular UEFI can boot into a 32-bit OS". Cheers, David.
Re: Please help with not booting from USB so to install Debian
On 9/6/23 05:18, Bret Busby wrote: On 9/6/23 05:02, Bret Busby wrote: On 9/6/23 04:52, Rodolfo Medina wrote: Bret Busby writes: My understanding is that Windows 11 computers have malware that is designed to prevent booting into anything other than the malicious Windows 11. A procedure to get around the Windows 11 malware, and to be able to boot into Linux, has, I believe, been described on the Ubuntu Users mailing list. Can you perhaps point out a link to read that procedure? Thanks! Rodolfo I have posted a query to the Ubuntu list, asking the person who I believe, provided the procedure on that list, and, who has published equivalent information for Windows 10. I seek his response. .. Bret Busby Armadale West Australia (UTC+0800) .. Have you disabled "secure boot" on your Windows 11 PC? .. Bret Busby Armadale West Australia (UTC+0800) .. If you go to https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-users/2022-July/thread.html and scroll down to the thread starting with the subject "Questions about Linux Mint and this list", read that message, and, work your way through the responses, especially, the ones from Liam Proven, you should be able to get the answer that you seek. .. Bret Busby Armadale West Australia (UTC+0800) ..
Re: Please help with not booting from USB so to install Debian
On 9/6/23 05:26, Bret Busby wrote: On 9/6/23 05:18, Bret Busby wrote: On 9/6/23 05:02, Bret Busby wrote: On 9/6/23 04:52, Rodolfo Medina wrote: Bret Busby writes: My understanding is that Windows 11 computers have malware that is designed to prevent booting into anything other than the malicious Windows 11. A procedure to get around the Windows 11 malware, and to be able to boot into Linux, has, I believe, been described on the Ubuntu Users mailing list. Can you perhaps point out a link to read that procedure? Thanks! Rodolfo I have posted a query to the Ubuntu list, asking the person who I believe, provided the procedure on that list, and, who has published equivalent information for Windows 10. I seek his response. .. Bret Busby Armadale West Australia (UTC+0800) .. Have you disabled "secure boot" on your Windows 11 PC? .. Bret Busby Armadale West Australia (UTC+0800) .. If you go to https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-users/2022-July/thread.html and scroll down to the thread starting with the subject "Questions about Linux Mint and this list", read that message, and, work your way through the responses, especially, the ones from Liam Proven, you should be able to get the answer that you seek. .. Bret Busby Armadale West Australia (UTC+0800) .. I should have included, in my previous posts about this, that the imperative first step, before either using a newly purchased computer, or, trying to add an extra booting operating system to any computer, new or otherwise, is to ensure that you have the latest available UEFI/BIOS installed on the computer. The computer manufacturer's web site should have the applicable procedures involved, for both checking the installed and latest UEFI/BIOS versions for the computer, and, for upgrading it as needed. .. Bret Busby Armadale West Australia (UTC+0800) ..
Re: Please help with not booting from USB so to install Debian
On Thu, 08 Jun 2023 23:15:36 +0200 "Thomas Schmitt" wrote: > I understand from the link that it has a 64 bit Celeron J4105 CPU. > So its EFI would want an "amd64" ISO. A Celeron should be able to run i386 Debian. But the amd64 might be a better use of its capabilities. -- Does anybody read signatures any more? https://charlescurley.com https://charlescurley.com/blog/
Re: Please help with not booting from USB so to install Debian
On Thu, 08 Jun 2023 20:01:20 + Rodolfo Medina wrote: > Here it is: > > > https://www.amazon.it/KUU-Notebook-Prozessor-Bluetooth-portatile/dp/B0C4TGXKBC/ref=sr_1_2_sspa?crid=3PK1MW55MAOA Hmm, never heard of that vendor. You might do better with one of the Debian Italian language lists. https://lists.debian.org/completeindex.html -- Does anybody read signatures any more? https://charlescurley.com https://charlescurley.com/blog/
Re: Please help with not booting from USB so to install Debian
On 9/6/23 05:02, Bret Busby wrote: On 9/6/23 04:52, Rodolfo Medina wrote: Bret Busby writes: My understanding is that Windows 11 computers have malware that is designed to prevent booting into anything other than the malicious Windows 11. A procedure to get around the Windows 11 malware, and to be able to boot into Linux, has, I believe, been described on the Ubuntu Users mailing list. Can you perhaps point out a link to read that procedure? Thanks! Rodolfo I have posted a query to the Ubuntu list, asking the person who I believe, provided the procedure on that list, and, who has published equivalent information for Windows 10. I seek his response. .. Bret Busby Armadale West Australia (UTC+0800) .. Have you disabled "secure boot" on your Windows 11 PC? .. Bret Busby Armadale West Australia (UTC+0800) ..
Re: Please help with not booting from USB so to install Debian
Hi, Rodolfo Medina wrote: > https://www.amazon.it/KUU-Notebook-Prozessor-Bluetooth-portatile/dp/B0C4TGX KBC/ref=sr_1_2_sspa?crid=3PK1MW55MAOA > $ dd if=debian-11.7.0-i386-netinst.iso of=/dev/sdd bs=4M; sync I understand from the link that it has a 64 bit Celeron J4105 CPU. So its EFI would want an "amd64" ISO. > > In BIOS I enabled the CSM protocol > No message: it simply boots into Windows instead of the USB drive that I > chose in the menu. You could try with https://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/current/amd64/iso-cd/debian-11.7.0-amd64-netinst.iso and CSM disabled. (Maybe it even begins to work with CSM if the firmware is brain damaged enough.) Have a nice day :) Thomas
Re: Please help with not booting from USB so to install Debian
On 9/6/23 04:52, Rodolfo Medina wrote: Bret Busby writes: My understanding is that Windows 11 computers have malware that is designed to prevent booting into anything other than the malicious Windows 11. A procedure to get around the Windows 11 malware, and to be able to boot into Linux, has, I believe, been described on the Ubuntu Users mailing list. Can you perhaps point out a link to read that procedure? Thanks! Rodolfo I have posted a query to the Ubuntu list, asking the person who I believe, provided the procedure on that list, and, who has published equivalent information for Windows 10. I seek his response. .. Bret Busby Armadale West Australia (UTC+0800) ..
Re: Please help with not booting from USB so to install Debian
Bret Busby writes: > My understanding is that Windows 11 computers have malware that is designed > to prevent booting into anything other than the malicious Windows 11. > > A procedure to get around the Windows 11 malware, and to be able to boot into > Linux, has, I believe, been described on the Ubuntu Users mailing list. Can you perhaps point out a link to read that procedure? Thanks! Rodolfo
Re: Please help with not booting from USB so to install Debian
On 9/6/23 02:36, Rodolfo Medina wrote: I want to install Debian on a new machine but don't manage to boot from USB stick. (I can do so regularly with another machine, so the USB stick is ok and so is the Debian netinst I burned onto it.) At the boot I press F9 and a menu appears where I can choose to boot from USB stick; but then it doesn't so at all booting instead into Windows 11. In BIOS I enabled the CSM protocol but nothing. Please help as I don't know what to do: thanks. Rodolfo My understanding is that Windows 11 computers have malware that is designed to prevent booting into anything other than the malicious Windows 11. A procedure to get around the Windows 11 malware, and to be able to boot into Linux, has, I believe, been described on the Ubuntu Users mailing list. My understanding is that, to boot into Linux or any other non-MS operating system, Windows 11 should be avoided like the plague that it is, and, that a computer with the Windows 10 OS should be obtained, rather than the malware that is Windows 11. Windows 11 also, in the malware that it is, proscribes software that runs on Windows 10 and earlier versions of Windows. The best use for a Windows 11 computer, is to use it as a projectile. Such computers are not even substantial enough to use as boat anchors. .. Bret Busby Armadale West Australia (UTC+0800) ..
Re: Please help with not booting from USB so to install Debian
Thank you Andrew and Charles. "Andrew M.A. Cater" writes: > What model of machine is this - and how new? Here it is: https://www.amazon.it/KUU-Notebook-Prozessor-Bluetooth-portatile/dp/B0C4TGXKBC/ref=sr_1_2_sspa?crid=3PK1MW55MAOA > How did you write the image to the USB stick? This way: $ dd if=debian-11.7.0-i386-netinst.iso of=/dev/sdd bs=4M; sync As I said, another machine of mine boots regularly into it, so it must be ok. > CSM is probably not needed. USB boot *should* work but there is a > way of forcing boot only to Windows 11 in some machines. (I had this > on a relatively new T490). > > Does it show any messages? No message: it simply boots into Windows instead of the USB drive that I chose in the menu. Thanks, Rodolfo
Re: Please help with not booting from USB so to install Debian
On Thu, 8 Jun 2023 18:36:27 + Rodolfo Medina wrote: > I want to install Debian on a new machine but don't manage to boot > from USB stick. It might help if you identified the new machine. You might also check web sites related to Linux on that manufacturer's products. E.g. thinkwiki (https://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/ThinkWiki) for Lenovo/IBM machines. Or https://linux-hardware.org. -- Does anybody read signatures any more? https://charlescurley.com https://charlescurley.com/blog/
Re: Please help with not booting from USB so to install Debian
On Thu, Jun 08, 2023 at 06:36:27PM +, Rodolfo Medina wrote: > I want to install Debian on a new machine but don't manage to boot from USB > stick. (I can do so regularly with another machine, so the USB stick is ok > and > so is the Debian netinst I burned onto it.) At the boot I press F9 and a menu > appears where I can choose to boot from USB stick; but then it doesn't so at > all > booting instead into Windows 11. In BIOS I enabled the CSM protocol but > nothing. Please help as I don't know what to do: thanks. > Hi Rodolfo, What model of machine is this - and how new? How did you write the image to the USB stick? CSM is probably not needed. USB boot *should* work but there is a way of forcing boot only to Windows 11 in some machines. (I had this on a relatively new T490). Does it show any messages? > Rodolfo > All the very best, as ever, Andy Cater
Please help with not booting from USB so to install Debian
I want to install Debian on a new machine but don't manage to boot from USB stick. (I can do so regularly with another machine, so the USB stick is ok and so is the Debian netinst I burned onto it.) At the boot I press F9 and a menu appears where I can choose to boot from USB stick; but then it doesn't so at all booting instead into Windows 11. In BIOS I enabled the CSM protocol but nothing. Please help as I don't know what to do: thanks. Rodolfo
