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Ooops. I just bounced this post, hoping elm would let me edit it. :-( I tried Linux 2.1.13, and found that start-stop-daemons, which Debian uses extensively during bootup, did not work, and possibly some other scripts. Hence 2.1.13 was useless and I am back to 2.1.10. Has anyone else experienced this? thanks, Hamish -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Hamish == Hamish Moffatt [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hamish Ooops. I just bounced this post, hoping elm would let me edit Hamish it. :-( I tried Linux 2.1.13, and found that Hamish start-stop-daemons, which Debian uses extensively during Hamish bootup, did not work, and possibly some other scripts. Hence Hamish 2.1.13 was useless and I am back to 2.1.10. Has anyone else Hamish experienced this? Yes, the exact same thing happened to me, apparently because 2.1.13 does not understand the #!/usr/sbin/perl -- line in the script. No script which gives an argument to its processor works with that kernel. Miraculously, almost everything will work normally if you change the line to #!/usr/bin/perl. Seems like start-stop-daemon is the only key script that gives arguments to its processor. This is the first 2.1 kernel I've tried, so I don't know if its a bug or a feature. (Its startup messages mentioned being POSIX-certified, mabye things like #!/usr/bin/perl -w and #!/usr/bin/make -f are unsupported now?) ~ mm mm Johnie Ingram, Network Technician mm mm Research Development, The Library Network m m m 33030 Van Born Road, Wayne, MI 48141 +1 313 326 8910 x144 mm mm GO BLUE PGP E4 70 6E 59 80 6A F5 78 63 32 BC FB 7A 08 53 4C Ibala lami elimnyama, ndiya zidla ngalo -- One by One (Disney's Rhythm of the Pridelands) -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Johnie Ingram [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes Hamish == Hamish Moffatt [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hamish Ooops. I just bounced this post, hoping elm would let me edit Hamish it. :-( I tried Linux 2.1.13, and found that Hamish start-stop-daemons, which Debian uses extensively during Hamish bootup, did not work, and possibly some other scripts. Hence Hamish 2.1.13 was useless and I am back to 2.1.10. Has anyone else Hamish experienced this? Yes, the exact same thing happened to me, apparently because 2.1.13 does not understand the #!/usr/sbin/perl -- line in the script. No script which gives an argument to its processor works with that kernel. Miraculously, almost everything will work normally if you change the line to #!/usr/bin/perl. Seems like start-stop-daemon is the only key script that gives arguments to its processor. This is the first 2.1 kernel I've tried, so I don't know if its a bug or a feature. (Its startup messages mentioned being POSIX-certified, mabye things like #!/usr/bin/perl -w and #!/usr/bin/make -f are unsupported now?) ~ mm mm Johnie Ingram, Network Technician mm mm Research Development, The Library Network m m m 33030 Van Born Road, Wayne, MI 48141 +1 313 326 8910 x144 mm mm GO BLUE PGP E4 70 6E 59 80 6A F5 78 63 32 BC FB 7A 08 53 4C Ibala lami elimnyama, ndiya zidla ngalo -- One by One (Disney's Rhythm of the Pridelands) -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] My guess is that Perl has moved - the canonical location has possibly moved from /sbin (very restricted in terms of who can use it) to /bin (any user) to avoid all the suid problems ?? Just my thought. Andy -- Andrew Martin Adrian Cater -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Andrew == Andrew Martin Adrian Cater [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Johnie Yes, the exact same thing happened to me, apparently because Johnie 2.1.13 does not understand the #!/usr/sbin/perl -- line in the Johnie script. No script which gives an argument to its processor works Andrew My guess is that Perl has moved - the canonical location has Andrew possibly moved from /sbin (very restricted in terms of who can Andrew use it) to /bin (any user) to avoid all the suid problems ?? Andrew Just my thought. Sorry -- I mistyped that. The line really says #!/usr/bin/perl --. My theory is the problem lies in changes to fs/binfmt_script.c. Every script with extra stuff after the interpreter filename now fails with something like bash: no such file (I don't remember exactly -- I'm back to 2.0.25 now). I was going to test the theory by replacing binfmt_script.c with the 2.0.25 version, but make-kpkg didn't work under 2.1.13, and by the time I re-liloed and booted the stable kernel, the heat of the moment had passed :-) ~ mm mm Johnie Ingram, Network Technician mm mm Research Development, The Library Network m m m 33030 Van Born Road, Wayne, MI 48141 +1 313 326 8910 x144 mm mm GO BLUE PGP E4 70 6E 59 80 6A F5 78 63 32 BC FB 7A 08 53 4C Ibala lami elimnyama, ndiya zidla ngalo -- One by One (Disney's Rhythm of the Pridelands) -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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On Mon, 25 Nov 1996, Tom Julien wrote: IMHO, a license like Qt's is long overdue. It makes a fine commercial product available to both X11 and Win32, yet it provides a great mechanism to promote freeware/open standards like Unix/X11 *over* propriety ones. Troll's reasoning for not allowing modified versions may not include this rationale, but I am certainly tickled pink to see it for this very reason. Yes, make the commercials pay when it takes commercial development to create something. Seems fair to me. Please work with Troll on this -- you may find that there's no need to argue at all. Y'know, maybe it does not really matter all that much right now. Slackware and RedHat may be more than happy to include KDE and Qt bundled and ready to go. This is a substantial chunk of the market, and surely captures the market KDE is aimed for: newcomers. In time, the license may be changed to suit Debian, and so Debian can join in the fun. What I would like to know is the Debian mission statement, its meaning and purpose. Something is lurking in the depths of my memory, but it is not at all clear. Is there a Debian FAQ or other info available? I'll check if a web site is around, if I ever get around to it. :) -- William Burrow -- Fredericton Area Network, New Brunswick, Canada Copyright 1996 William Burrow This line left intentionally blank. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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The Debian FAQ, answer to question 2.1: Debian GNU/Linux is the result of a volunteer effort to create a free, high-quality Unix-compatible operating system, complete with a suite of applications. The free here has to do with freedom, not price. While I know that, and you know that, it might need to be clarified in the FAQ. As it stands, that paragraph has no indication that a) Debian GNU/Linux might cost money (and thus not be free by monetary standards), but b) can be modified and redistributed at will (and thus free by -part- of the LPF/FSF standards). -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
