Re: Potato and Helix-Gnome

2000-07-19 Thread Ross Boylan
I think apt had some problems with handling CD's, especially multiple
ones.  You might want to check the bug list.

On Wed, Jul 05, 2000 at 08:45:05AM -0500, Robert Maynord wrote:
> Dear debian-user List Friends:
> 
> I have been following the Potato and Helix-Gnome discussions, and decided
> to try the setup.  I downloaded last weeks version of Potato, and it works
> fine.  I purchased the Helix-Gnome disk, and it works - at least with Red
> Hat.  I have unsuccessfully tried the Potato-Helix combination on two
> completely different computers, so the problem must be mine.  I begin with
> the the Potato installation, and when it gets to the apt-get section, I
> include the Helix-Gnome CD.  Potato sees the Helix-Gnome CD fine, and I
> select the three Helix-Gnome boxes in the apt-get "simple" selection area.
> I then continue the installation, and all works fine until apt-get begins
> the actual installation of the packages.  Then the messages (describing
> which packages are to be installed) appear at different starting points on
> the screen. The last message is: "Do you want to continue? [Y/n]"  At this
> point the computer freezes and will not respond to a typed Y (enter) or any
> other keyboard action.  
> 
> My hope is to use the Debian/Helix-Gnome combination on computers at an
> elementary school.  Any help on this problem would be very much appreciated!!!
> 
> p.s. I have also tried installing Helix-Gnome after completing a
> Potato-only installation.  Potato installs fine.  But when I begin the
> Helix-Gnome part, directly from the CD as per Helix-Gnome instructions, the
> same screen freezing occurs.  
> 
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Re: Potato and Helix-Gnome - Solved!

2000-07-11 Thread Joey Hess
Robert Maynord wrote:
> Thanks for your responses!  I finally solved the Potato and Helix-Gnome
> installation problem.  I found that if I do NOT use the "simple" package
> choice in apt-get, but use the "advanced" instead, it works.  I am able to
> use the Helix-Gnome CD with no problem.  

Are you talking about the simple/advanced prompt when you do a fresh
potato install?

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Re: Potato and Helix-Gnome - Solved!

2000-07-05 Thread Morten Liebach
On Wed, Jul 05, 2000 at 12:39:15PM -0500, Robert Maynord wrote:
> Dear Debian list:
> 
> Thanks for your responses!  I finally solved the Potato and Helix-Gnome
> installation problem.  I found that if I do NOT use the "simple" package
> choice in apt-get, but use the "advanced" instead, it works.  I am able to
> use the Helix-Gnome CD with no problem.  

That's nice to hear! :-)

> Except:  There appears to be an IRQ conflict.  My mouse hops all around the
> perimeter of the screen, with no useful connections on the menus.  I have
> tried using XF86Setup to configure my PS/2 mouse to /dev/psaux.  The mouse
> works fine in the X test setup - just not in Gnome!
> 
> I will continue with the troubleshooting

Proposal:
Set your mouse device to /dev/mouse, I think that's the canonical way of
doing it.
Then check how gpm is doing, I've had a lot of trouble when I tried to
use the raw device for the mouse ...

Then again, for me there was some voodoo in it too, and Potato was
unstable back then.

HTH.
Morten

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Re: Potato and Helix-Gnome - Solved!

2000-07-05 Thread Kent West
Robert Maynord wrote:
> 
> Dear Debian list:
> 
> Thanks for your responses!  I finally solved the Potato and Helix-Gnome
> installation problem.  I found that if I do NOT use the "simple" package
> choice in apt-get, but use the "advanced" instead, it works.  I am able to
> use the Helix-Gnome CD with no problem.
> 
> Except:  There appears to be an IRQ conflict.  My mouse hops all around the
> perimeter of the screen, with no useful connections on the menus.  I have
> tried using XF86Setup to configure my PS/2 mouse to /dev/psaux.  The mouse
> works fine in the X test setup - just not in Gnome!
> 
> I will continue with the troubleshooting
> 
> Thanks again!
> 
> Robert
> 
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I had this problem also; I changed to protocol from ps2 to imps2,
which solve the problem with my button-wheel style mouse.

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Potato and Helix-Gnome - Solved!

2000-07-05 Thread Robert Maynord
Dear Debian list:

Thanks for your responses!  I finally solved the Potato and Helix-Gnome
installation problem.  I found that if I do NOT use the "simple" package
choice in apt-get, but use the "advanced" instead, it works.  I am able to
use the Helix-Gnome CD with no problem.  

Except:  There appears to be an IRQ conflict.  My mouse hops all around the
perimeter of the screen, with no useful connections on the menus.  I have
tried using XF86Setup to configure my PS/2 mouse to /dev/psaux.  The mouse
works fine in the X test setup - just not in Gnome!

I will continue with the troubleshooting

Thanks again!

Robert





Re: Potato and Helix-Gnome

2000-07-05 Thread Morten Liebach
On Wed, Jul 05, 2000 at 08:45:05AM -0500, Robert Maynord wrote:
> Dear debian-user List Friends:
> 
> I have been following the Potato and Helix-Gnome discussions, and decided
> to try the setup.  I downloaded last weeks version of Potato, and it works
> fine.  I purchased the Helix-Gnome disk, and it works - at least with Red
> Hat.  I have unsuccessfully tried the Potato-Helix combination on two
> completely different computers, so the problem must be mine.  I begin with
> the the Potato installation, and when it gets to the apt-get section, I
> include the Helix-Gnome CD.  Potato sees the Helix-Gnome CD fine, and I
> select the three Helix-Gnome boxes in the apt-get "simple" selection area.
> I then continue the installation, and all works fine until apt-get begins
> the actual installation of the packages.  Then the messages (describing
> which packages are to be installed) appear at different starting points on
> the screen. The last message is: "Do you want to continue? [Y/n]"  At this
> point the computer freezes and will not respond to a typed Y (enter) or any
> other keyboard action.  
> 
> My hope is to use the Debian/Helix-Gnome combination on computers at an
> elementary school.  Any help on this problem would be very much appreciated!!!
> 
> p.s. I have also tried installing Helix-Gnome after completing a
> Potato-only installation.  Potato installs fine.  But when I begin the
> Helix-Gnome part, directly from the CD as per Helix-Gnome instructions, the
> same screen freezing occurs.  
 
Sounds very odd.
I don't know the CD-edition, so it might be there the problem is.
I know this is probably a redundant question, but are there *.deb's on
the CD('s)?

Can your drive read other CD's?

I've had some problems once with a CD-drive that was defective, it
sometimes hung the 'puter, but that was Windows I think ...

I use dselect/apt for all things Debian, and I have had no problems[1]
with the line:

deb http://spidermonkey.helixcode.com/distributions/debian unstable main

in my /etc/apt/sources.list.

HTH.
Regards
Morten

[1] Except for some dependencies that Potato couldn't fulfill, easily
fixed with an upgrade of the relevant packages to Woody.

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Potato and Helix-Gnome

2000-07-05 Thread Robert Maynord
Dear debian-user List Friends:

I have been following the Potato and Helix-Gnome discussions, and decided
to try the setup.  I downloaded last weeks version of Potato, and it works
fine.  I purchased the Helix-Gnome disk, and it works - at least with Red
Hat.  I have unsuccessfully tried the Potato-Helix combination on two
completely different computers, so the problem must be mine.  I begin with
the the Potato installation, and when it gets to the apt-get section, I
include the Helix-Gnome CD.  Potato sees the Helix-Gnome CD fine, and I
select the three Helix-Gnome boxes in the apt-get "simple" selection area.
I then continue the installation, and all works fine until apt-get begins
the actual installation of the packages.  Then the messages (describing
which packages are to be installed) appear at different starting points on
the screen. The last message is: "Do you want to continue? [Y/n]"  At this
point the computer freezes and will not respond to a typed Y (enter) or any
other keyboard action.  

My hope is to use the Debian/Helix-Gnome combination on computers at an
elementary school.  Any help on this problem would be very much appreciated!!!

p.s. I have also tried installing Helix-Gnome after completing a
Potato-only installation.  Potato installs fine.  But when I begin the
Helix-Gnome part, directly from the CD as per Helix-Gnome instructions, the
same screen freezing occurs.  



Re: Debian Potato and Helix Gnome

2000-06-09 Thread Dietmar
Nobody ever had trouble with conflicting sound support of sawfish and 
gnome-audio in case
one runs xmms?

Dietmar



Re: Debian Potato and Helix Gnome

2000-06-09 Thread Gianluca Montecchi
On Fri, Jun 09, 2000 at 09:32:50PM +1000, Damon Muller wrote:
=> Hi Glyn,
=> 
=> I suspect that they just call it woody because it came after the potato
=> freeze - it doesn't seem to depend on anything in woody. I installed it
=> on a Potato system with no (significant) problems.

You must  have two or three packages from woody in onder to be able to
install all the gnome-helix packages on the potato. As you don't need these 
packages 
(i.e. you have not a palm pilot) you don't need anything from the woody.

bye

Gianluca



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Re: Debian Potato and Helix Gnome

2000-06-09 Thread dyer
"J. Glyn Hughes" wrote:

> New to Debian, I am a happy convert from RH, MDK, SuSE et al.
>
> Having had quite a scoot around, I am having trouble getting hold of Helix
> Gnome for Potato - they only seem to have a binary release for Woody.
>
> I have seen references by those clearly more talented than I to installing
> (perhaps shoe-horning) Helix onto Debian Potato, I know it's possible.
>
> Quite happy to investigate / play myself, perhaps someone could point me in
> the right direction - for what where should I look if I want (the very
> wonderful, apparently) Helix Gnome on my Debian 'Potato'.
>

The only thing I found that required woody was a dependency on libguile6 
1:1.3.4-3.
Potato provides 1.3.4-2. This was only for the games I think. I upgraded 
libguile6 to
the woody version and all was well. Running nicely on potato.

dyer



Re: Debian Potato and Helix Gnome

2000-06-09 Thread Damon Muller
Hi Glyn,

I suspect that they just call it woody because it came after the potato
freeze - it doesn't seem to depend on anything in woody. I installed it
on a Potato system with no (significant) problems.

cheers,

damon

Quoth J. Glyn Hughes, 
> New to Debian, I am a happy convert from RH, MDK, SuSE et al.
> 
> Having had quite a scoot around, I am having trouble getting hold of Helix
> Gnome for Potato - they only seem to have a binary release for Woody.
> 
> I have seen references by those clearly more talented than I to installing
> (perhaps shoe-horning) Helix onto Debian Potato, I know it's possible.
> 
> Quite happy to investigate / play myself, perhaps someone could point me in
> the right direction - for what where should I look if I want (the very
> wonderful, apparently) Helix Gnome on my Debian 'Potato'.
> 
> TIA,
> 
> Glyn
> 
> 
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Re: Debian Potato and Helix Gnome

2000-06-08 Thread David Wilson
I followed the instructions at for my potato installation and it worked great:

http://news.gnome.org/gnome-news/958714217/


>>> "J. Glyn Hughes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 06/08/00 10:49AM >>>
New to Debian, I am a happy convert from RH, MDK, SuSE et al.

Having had quite a scoot around, I am having trouble getting hold of Helix
Gnome for Potato - they only seem to have a binary release for Woody.

I have seen references by those clearly more talented than I to installing
(perhaps shoe-horning) Helix onto Debian Potato, I know it's possible.

Quite happy to investigate / play myself, perhaps someone could point me in
the right direction - for what where should I look if I want (the very
wonderful, apparently) Helix Gnome on my Debian 'Potato'.

TIA,

Glyn


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Debian Potato and Helix Gnome

2000-06-08 Thread J. Glyn Hughes
New to Debian, I am a happy convert from RH, MDK, SuSE et al.

Having had quite a scoot around, I am having trouble getting hold of Helix
Gnome for Potato - they only seem to have a binary release for Woody.

I have seen references by those clearly more talented than I to installing
(perhaps shoe-horning) Helix onto Debian Potato, I know it's possible.

Quite happy to investigate / play myself, perhaps someone could point me in
the right direction - for what where should I look if I want (the very
wonderful, apparently) Helix Gnome on my Debian 'Potato'.

TIA,

Glyn