Re: Potato and egcs

1999-04-06 Thread Stephen Pitts
On Sun, Apr 04, 1999 at 09:13:47PM -0700, George Bonser wrote:
 On Sun, 4 Apr 1999, Stephen Pitts wrote:
 
  First, don't complain. One of the listed goals for potato on 
  debian-devel (you do read that, don't you? potato is a DEVELOPERS RELEASE)
 
I was under the impression that there are illegal constructs in 2.0 that
GCC likes but EGCS hates, and that these problems were fixed in the 2.1 
development
tree some time ago. The whole GCC/EGCS thing is mostly political, IMHO, as 
many agree that EGCS is the superior compiler. There was a big thread on -devel
discussing whether glibc2.1 was pulled because it doesn't compile with GCC 2.8.
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Re: Potato and egcs

1999-04-05 Thread Stephen Pitts
On Sat, Apr 03, 1999 at 12:18:50AM -0800, George Bonser wrote:
 
 Ok, whose big idea was it not to provide a real gcc in potato?  Maybe it
 is me but I couldn't find one.  I did an auto-upgrade and broke my ability
 to compile 2.0.27-pre kernels cleanly.
 
 I don't mind being offered egcs but I would LIKE the chance to stay with
 gcc. Forcing egcs is fine IF debian is going to produce patched versions
 of all the latest kernels so they will work.
 
 I happen to need 2.0.37 (because it has the Initio support I need, it is
 more up to date than 2.2.5). Try to compile it with potato and you get a
 couple of pages of bitching and complaining about egcs and the compile
 dies.
 
 And no, I am probably NOT going to limit myself to building only from
 Debian approved source trees.
 
 
 
 George Bonser
 
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First, don't complain. One of the listed goals for potato on 
debian-devel (you do read that, don't you? potato is a DEVELOPERS RELEASE)
is to use EGCS for compilation. Use Slink if you can't handle occasional 
system breaks. Also, don't start blaming people left and right. You
are the one who chose to upgrade your GCC.

Just use the GCC from Slink. I'm still using it because
I have some apps that don't cope well with glibc2.1.

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Re: Potato and egcs

1999-04-03 Thread J.H.M. Dassen
On Sat, Apr 03, 1999 at 00:18:50 -0800, George Bonser wrote:
 Ok, whose big idea was it not to provide a real gcc in potato? 

Fully switching to EGCS has been planned for potato for quite some time now.

 Maybe it is me but I couldn't find one.

There isn't one, yet. We're working on building one from the gcc27 source
package.

 I did an auto-upgrade and broke my ability to compile 2.0.27-pre kernels
 cleanly.

Welcome to unstable.

 I don't mind being offered egcs but I would LIKE the chance to stay with
 gcc. Forcing egcs is fine IF debian is going to produce patched versions
 of all the latest kernels so they will work.

2.2.x is the latest kernel.

 I happen to need 2.0.37 (because it has the Initio support I need, it is
 more up to date than 2.2.5).

It can't be that difficult to update 2.2.5's from it.

Ray
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Re: Potato and egcs

1999-04-03 Thread J.H.M. Dassen
On Sat, Apr 03, 1999 at 03:11:50 -0800, George Bonser wrote:
 On Sat, 3 Apr 1999, J.H.M. Dassen wrote:
  2.2.x is the latest kernel.
 
 But 2.0.37 has newer drivers than Linus' 2.2 releases ... maybe I should
 be using the ac stuff?

At the moment, I trust Alan's patches more than Linus' releases (though I
did a grep in 2.2.5-ac3 for initio, and didn't find an update (relative to
2.2.5)).

 2.2.5 won't build with the egcs in potato either.

For a particular configuration perhaps. I've had no problems compiling
2.2.X(-acY) kernels for my systems.

 2.2.5 is the latest kernel but 2.0.37 has the latest hardware support.

You may want to mail Alan privately to ask him to include the updated drivers
you're concerned about. (Or even better, provide him with a patch).

Ray
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yesterday but which everyone swears won't happen until tomorrow.  
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