Re: Problem installing Etch using local mirror

2011-09-09 Thread Ivan Shmakov
> Bob Proulx  writes:

[…]

 > Another possibility would be Syslinux.  The upstream Syslinux site is
 > down for me at this moment making it hard for me to check docs but as
 > I recall it still supports floppy disk booting and has a process to
 > bootstrap a network boot from a floppy disk boot.  And etherboot.

I vaguely recall that Etherboot has become gPXE some time ago.

In my experience, a floppy with gPXE installed instantly brings
the network boot capability to older hardware.

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Re: Problem installing Etch using local mirror

2011-09-09 Thread Bob Proulx
Lurker_pas wrote:
> Then I tried archive.debian.org - failed.

I would poke at this more closely.  Why is this failing?  I have a few
obsolete Etch and even Sarge machines still hitting that archive and
they are validating the archive okay.  Seems to me that part should be
working and that problem is probably the root cause of your trouble.
If you figure that out you might be golden.

You should be able to point your newer machines at the archive.  All
of the package versions will be older and so nothing will want to
install.  But updating should validate the release signatures.  You
may need to add the old key to your apt-key though.  But the older
installation would already have it.

Can you debootstrap Etch?  I would think that you could.  It might be
another way to validate your archive.  Not as an install method for
your machine but as a way to validate that you could install from your
archive.  I just tried an Etch debootstrap and it worked okay for me.

  debootstrap etch etch-chroot http://archive.debian.org/debian

>   If someone knows how to bypass this and install Linux on this old
> laptop in a different way, I'll be happy to hear that. Still, I want to
> know what is wrong with my current procedure.

Another possibility would be Syslinux.  The upstream Syslinux site is
down for me at this moment making it hard for me to check docs but as
I recall it still supports floppy disk booting and has a process to
bootstrap a network boot from a floppy disk boot.  And etherboot.  The
etherboot howtos are available now so I will pass those along.

  http://etherboot.org/wiki/howtos

  http://etherboot.org/wiki/removable

Note that I haven't tried it yet.  I just remember having seen it.
But it looks like it might be a way for you to install over the
network but bootstrapping yourself entirely from the floppy disk.

Bob


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Problem installing Etch using local mirror

2011-09-09 Thread Lurker_pas
Hi,

I'm trying to install Debian Etch from floppy and local mirror. It
fails with message:

"The specified Debian archive mirror is either not available, or does
not have a valid Release file on it. Please try a different mirror."

Before I get bashed for this question, I'd like to explain that I want
to install Debian on a very old laptop (Celeron 300MHz, 64MB RAM), which
doesn't have a CD/DVD drive, doesn't boot from network, doesn't boot
from USB and I can't remove its HDD. That's why I decided to use Etch,
as it still had floppy install images.

Before I tried installing it on a real hardware, I decided to test
everything on a virtual machine. First I tried a regular mirror over
http - failed (I understand that, etch is archived). Then I tried
archive.debian.org - failed. Then I created a local mirror on my bigger
Debian machine using apt-mirror. The installation failed again with the
same message. During several failed attempts, I created symbolic links
"stable" and "oldstable" to "etch". Then I spied a little using
wireshark. The installation requests the release file
"/debian/dists/oldstable/Release" - which is returned with HTTP OK. Then
it requests "/debian/dists/etch/Release", which also finishes with a
successful file transfer. Still the same error. No other files are
requested from the mirror.

I assume it's not a network or file-naming problem. What else can be
wrong? Corrupted mirror? Invalid signatures?

The beggining of the release file is as follows:

"Origin: Debian
Label: Debian
Suite: oldstable
Version: 4.0r9
Codename: etch
Date: Sat, 22 May 2010 14:22:09 UTC
Architectures: alpha amd64 arm hppa i386 ia64 mips mipsel powerpc s390
sparc
Components: main contrib non-free
Description: Debian 4.0r9 Released 22nd May 2010
MD5Sum:
 88e31747739f3ea9445fe543b21061b5 10910068 Contents-powerpc.g"

I mirrored main contrib and non-free, only i386.

The VM is Virtual Box, configured for 32bit Debian with floppy, small
HDD, bridged network and 64MB RAM.

My mirror machine is 64 bit Debian on Core2Quad processor - Linux
StrikeNoir 2.6.32-5-amd64 #1 SMP Tue Jun 14 09:42:28 UTC 2011 x86_64
GNU/Linux

The old laptop is Twinhead with Celeron processor.


If someone knows how to bypass this and install Linux on this old
laptop in a different way, I'll be happy to hear that. Still, I want to
know what is wrong with my current procedure.

Please help.

Best regards,

Michal Kurowski


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