Re: Question for this IP's PTR

2023-03-25 Thread debian-user
f...@dnsbed.com wrote:
> Greetings,
> 
> as you see this PTR,
> 
> $ dig -x 1.1.1.1 +short
> one.one.one.one.
> 
> so 2.2.2.2 can have the PTR two.two.two.two? and 3.3.3.3 can have 
> three.three.three.three?

A simple counter example is 
$ dig -x 8.8.8.8 +short
dns.google.

> Sorry I am not good at the DNS knowledge.

Me neither but thanks for the question. It prompted me to visit the
one.one.one.one website, which is interesting. I do use 1.1.1.1 for DNS
queries in my browser, but this is something much bigger.



Re: Question for this IP's PTR

2023-03-25 Thread Joe
On Fri, 24 Mar 2023 20:32:31 -0400
Greg Wooledge  wrote:

> On Sat, Mar 25, 2023 at 08:28:03AM +0800, f...@dnsbed.com wrote:
> > Greetings,
> > 
> > as you see this PTR,
> > 
> > $ dig -x 1.1.1.1 +short
> > one.one.one.one.
> > 
> > so 2.2.2.2 can have the PTR two.two.two.two? and 3.3.3.3 can have
> > three.three.three.three?  
> 
> Any IP address can have any PTR value.  You just have to petition the
> owner of the IP address range to set it.
> 
> I didn't know .one was a valid TLD.  It looks like .two is not, so if
> someone were to assign "two.two.two.two" as the PTR value of an IP
> address, that PTR would not resolve back to any IP address.  (An IP
> address block owner might reject such a petition.)
> 

In general, at this time, a mail server will look at the IP address of
a potential sender, check the PTR, then check for an A record matching
the PTR, pointing back to the IP address. The PTR does not (currently)
need to be related to an email domain using the address.

A competent ISP will have set up its IP addresses with complementary
PTR-A record pairs. Unfortunately, many use PTRs in the form
x-11-22-33-44 which is perfectly valid, but may be rejected by mail
servers as likely spammers (mine does). If you already have a PTR-A
pair that doesn't look like this (e.g. is some form of your user name
or account reference) you're probably OK.

The relevant RFC allows (or did when I last looked) multiple PTR
records for one IP address, but I don't think there's much software
which can deal with that, or will return more than one. On the other
hand, it's quite common for a single mail server to deal with many
domains, so it's not reasonable to expect a sender or HELO/EHLO to
match the PTR. My email server checks for a complementary PTR-A pair
that can both be found in public DNS, and goes no further. I believe
that is a typical setting.

-- 
Joe



Re: Question for this IP's PTR

2023-03-24 Thread fh

On 2023-03-25 08:32, Greg Wooledge wrote:

On Sat, Mar 25, 2023 at 08:28:03AM +0800, f...@dnsbed.com wrote:

Greetings,

as you see this PTR,

$ dig -x 1.1.1.1 +short
one.one.one.one.

so 2.2.2.2 can have the PTR two.two.two.two? and 3.3.3.3 can have
three.three.three.three?


Any IP address can have any PTR value.  You just have to petition the
owner of the IP address range to set it.

I didn't know .one was a valid TLD.  It looks like .two is not, so if
someone were to assign "two.two.two.two" as the PTR value of an IP
address, that PTR would not resolve back to any IP address.  (An IP
address block owner might reject such a petition.)



Thanks Greg.
I also don't know .one is a valid TLD, looks surprising.

But, one.one is owned by a domain registrar (one.com), while 
one.one.one's zone owner is cloudflare.


$ dig one.one soa +short
a.b-one-dns.net. hostmaster.one.com. 2013010101 1800 900 1209600 300

$ dig one.one.one soa +short
fred.ns.cloudflare.com. dns.cloudflare.com. 2305085481 1 2400 604800 
3600


maybe they co-work for this domain.


regards.



Re: Question for this IP's PTR

2023-03-24 Thread Jeremy Ardley



On 25/3/23 08:32, Greg Wooledge wrote:

I didn't know .one was a valid TLD. It looks like .two is not, so if
someone were to assign "two.two.two.two" as the PTR value of an IP
address, that PTR would not resolve back to any IP address.  (An IP
address block owner might reject such a petition.)


There is news of a recent TLD '888' but it's not yet known to whois

--
Jeremy
(Lists)



Re: Question for this IP's PTR

2023-03-24 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Sat, Mar 25, 2023 at 08:28:03AM +0800, f...@dnsbed.com wrote:
> Greetings,
> 
> as you see this PTR,
> 
> $ dig -x 1.1.1.1 +short
> one.one.one.one.
> 
> so 2.2.2.2 can have the PTR two.two.two.two? and 3.3.3.3 can have
> three.three.three.three?

Any IP address can have any PTR value.  You just have to petition the
owner of the IP address range to set it.

I didn't know .one was a valid TLD.  It looks like .two is not, so if
someone were to assign "two.two.two.two" as the PTR value of an IP
address, that PTR would not resolve back to any IP address.  (An IP
address block owner might reject such a petition.)



Question for this IP's PTR

2023-03-24 Thread fh

Greetings,

as you see this PTR,

$ dig -x 1.1.1.1 +short
one.one.one.one.

so 2.2.2.2 can have the PTR two.two.two.two? and 3.3.3.3 can have 
three.three.three.three?


Sorry I am not good at the DNS knowledge.

Regards.