Re: Question on install
>What I did: >desire:/space/debian/bo/disks-i386/current # cat resc1440.bin >/dev/fd0 >desire:/space/debian/bo/disks-i386/current # md5sum 986c8099396350772a6e43264f145e66 >desire:/space/debian/bo/disks-i386/current # md5sum resc1440.bin >986c8099396350772a6e43264f145e66 resc1440.bin I think your file is wrong: voyager:~# md5sum Is it possible that I should not have copied the bin files on my dos >partition and then by disc to the other computer? Perhaps the binaries >did not make it? It looks that way. - Jim Van Zandt P.S. >Dammit, what's it I'm overseeing? ^^ should be "overlooking". Yes, I know, English is a difficult language. I'm just luck to have grown up with it :-)
Re: Question on install
On Fri, 11 Apr 1997, Nils Rennebarth wrote: > On Fri, 11 Apr 1997, Alexander Koch wrote: > >My problem is that I take the resc1440.bin and write it to disc (with dd) > >and when it comes to boot it just does nothing and the mbr of /dev/sda > >(lilo) is taken. > According to your further mails, BIOS settings try the floppy first. > Was the floppy written ok? > > Try >md5sum < /dev/fd0 > after you made the floppy with dd if=resc1440 of=/dev/fd0 bs=10240 > and compare that to >md5sum resc1440.bin > and check that all match the one in md5sums.txt This works with images that fill the floppy, though sometimes I have to remove the floppy and reinsert it first. Is there a way of checking an image like "linux" that is only ~600k? My experience with the current crop of floppies is that this step is near essential. My failure rate would be approx 50%. =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Lindsay Allen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Perth, Western Australia voice +61 9 316 2486modem +61 9 364-9832 http: Real soon now. debian linux =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Re: Question on install
On Fri, 11 Apr 1997, Greg Vence wrote: > Also, you'll want to make sure you are using the 1997-04-04 images. The > 1997-03-?? are broke. > > I'd hate to see you get the boot going and then fail at a known point > later. I picked them up from incoming and put them up at ftp.greenbush.com on 4/6/97, I think in /pub/bodisks. Help yourselves. It's T-1 bandwidth. +--+ + Paul Wade Greenbush Technologies Corporation + + mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.greenbush.com/ + +--+ + http://www.wtop.com/What does W.T.O.P. mean? + +--+
Re: Question on install
Alexander writes: > When booting the floppy is accessed (*schrab* *schrab*) and then the hard > drive is read and my old lilo turns up. Well, I tried 4 discs that were > ok (Just checked at my other computer here, usual checks says nothing), 4 > new discs. I went through eight discs the other day making a rescue disc. This was one of the failure modes I observed. Get a box of new discs and keep trying. John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Hasler) Dancing Horse Hill Elmwood, WI
Re: Question on install
Alexander Koch wrote: > > Quoting Paul Wade ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > [...] > > > My problem is that I take the resc1440.bin and write it to disc (with dd) > > > and when it comes to boot it just does nothing and the mbr of /dev/sda > > > (lilo) is taken. > > > > Is the floppy drive trying to read at boot? Make sure your system bios is > > set up for proper boot order A:,C: and not C:,A: > > > > If that doesn't solve it, see if your system will boot anything from a > > floppy (like dos). > > There IS the correct boot order in the BIOS, the disks is read for a short > time and then it goes over to the harddiscs. > > And, yes, an old M$ DOS disks boots the system properly. > > *sigh* I'm gonna try out Rawrite... > Also, you'll want to make sure you are using the 1997-04-04 images. The 1997-03-?? are broke. I'd hate to see you get the boot going and then fail at a known point later. Enjoy -- Greg. -- Greg Vence | Debian GNU Linux KH2EA/4 | Diamond 2000 (7npw 4cpw) [EMAIL PROTECTED]| There is time for what's important
Re: Question on install
On Fri, 11 Apr 1997, Alexander Koch wrote: >My problem is that I take the resc1440.bin and write it to disc (with dd) >and when it comes to boot it just does nothing and the mbr of /dev/sda >(lilo) is taken. According to your further mails, BIOS settings try the floppy first. Was the floppy written ok? Try md5sum < /dev/fd0 after you made the floppy with dd if=resc1440 of=/dev/fd0 bs=10240 and compare that to md5sum resc1440.bin and check that all match the one in md5sums.txt Nils -- \ /| Nils Rennebarth --* WINDOWS 42 *-- | Schillerstr. 61 / \| 37083 Göttingen | ++49-551-71626 Micro$oft's final answer | http://www.nus.de/~nils
Re: Question on install
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- On 11-Apr-97 Alexander Koch wrote: >Well, until now I used rawrite to produce about 4 rescue floppy disks. I >tried them all in order. I have the right order of booting. > >When booting the floppy is accessed (*schrab* *schrab*) and then the hard drive >is read and my old lilo turns up. Well, I tried 4 discs that were ok (Just >checked at my other computer here, usual checks says nothing), 4 new discs. > >There's nothing here I could imagine that does perhaps interfere with >whatsoever. > >Argh! Ideas? I don't think turning off Cache or so in the BIOS doesn't >affect this early stage of the boot process. > Well. Acording to the doc's the cache settings do effect the boot process of the install disks. Read through the files on the rescue floppy and see if there are any references to your current lilo etc... It may have somehow configured your existing partition for boot. Sounds like the floppy is handing off to the hard drive. >Alexander > >-- >Das Fleisch ist willig, doch der Koch ist zu schwach. >Alexander Koch - <>< - aka efraim - +49-(0)89-64289385 >Gruenwalder Strasse 70 - D-81547 Muenchen - Germany - Europe > Have a good one. - -- Rick Jones E-Mail: Rick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: 11-Apr-97 Time: 11:55:09 - -- -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 2.6.2 iQCVAwUBM05e3Qi+Ph+i3TgpAQGk6QQAl1XWz7igmj279HRLs1FnJH3ExSMBRH6W SVFFFa3sze6vjcUXHid9w97PtCdQVRbNNEPobWVElP7kz60AEhxx4x9782KDVnff bvqyCs5VMD3p2aAYW+IKmeVTODm5biSS43BJtTie/yGx4yXrnzKvuZQ//g0n/ziK 6rpqeKfUnSA= =udK6 -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: Question on install
Hi, you should look at your bios settings. They can give you trouble when trying to install the base system. Specifically you should look at the memory (cache and video) and turn it off. The other thing that comes to mind is your rescue disk write pertected. If it isn't that is why it is try to load previous lilo configurations. I hope this helps. Paul McDermott | E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Computer Braille Facility | Phone Number: (519) 661-3061 University OF Western Ontario | Fax Number: (519) 661-3949 University Community Centre - Rm. #215 | Web Address: www.braille.uwo.ca/~paul London Ontario | N6A 5B8| LINUX RULES!!! On Fri, 11 Apr 1997, Alexander Koch wrote: > Hi again. > > Well, since it is said and I experienced it several times the making of the > boot floppies is not that easy... > > My problem is that I take the resc1440.bin and write it to disc (with dd) > and when it comes to boot it just does nothing and the mbr of /dev/sda > (lilo) is taken. > > What do I have to do besides trying another 5 disks or so? > > Is it possible to boot the rescue disk with a lilo entry on my system right > now? What do I have to put in the lilo.conf? > > Note that I do not have a debian setup right now, it's some old and awkward > system... ,-* > > Help apreciated, > Alexander > > -- > Das Fleisch ist willig, doch der Koch ist zu schwach. > Alexander Koch - <>< - aka efraim - +49-(0)89-64289385 > Gruenwalder Strasse 70 - D-81547 Muenchen - Germany - Europe > >
RE: Question on install
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- If I'm understanding you right, you're saying that when you try to boot from the rescue disk it just boots your previous lilo. If this is true check your BIOS settings for boot order and make sure that it will boot from the floppy drive before it looks at the hard drive. If this is the case when you try to boot with the rescue disk your system should just lock if it's a bad floppy etc... There's no way it should be booting your lilo off of your hard drive unless it's not even looking at the floppy. On 11-Apr-97 Alexander Koch wrote: >Hi again. > >Well, since it is said and I experienced it several times the making of the >boot floppies is not that easy... > >My problem is that I take the resc1440.bin and write it to disc (with dd) >and when it comes to boot it just does nothing and the mbr of /dev/sda >(lilo) is taken. > >What do I have to do besides trying another 5 disks or so? > >Is it possible to boot the rescue disk with a lilo entry on my system right >now? What do I have to put in the lilo.conf? > >Note that I do not have a debian setup right now, it's some old and awkward >system... ,-* > >Help apreciated, >Alexander > >-- >Das Fleisch ist willig, doch der Koch ist zu schwach. >Alexander Koch - <>< - aka efraim - +49-(0)89-64289385 >Gruenwalder Strasse 70 - D-81547 Muenchen - Germany - Europe > Have a good one. - -- Rick Jones E-Mail: Rick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: 11-Apr-97 Time: 10:15:31 - -- -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 2.6.2 iQCVAwUBM05Hkgi+Ph+i3TgpAQGxpQQAjp7QxT/pBl648e9mo2otPQdC7OT2wJLN Fit8sFtuGDHtuiYYMG8/cPAzJglJ36+QvPOLIFYZTkOcQjDyjQCTaJ1JaHtobere IgbnSSqNnyMiNqUKsHNn3Czk+B7SouAq1e2VuKXSmHOHWOSNTYsiAr9FJDKAxl6y HphM/R2X6+M= =RH6q -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: Question on install
On Fri, 11 Apr 1997, Alexander Koch wrote: > Quoting Paul Wade ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > [...] > > > My problem is that I take the resc1440.bin and write it to disc (with dd) > > > and when it comes to boot it just does nothing and the mbr of /dev/sda > > > (lilo) is taken. > > > > Is the floppy drive trying to read at boot? Make sure your system bios is > > set up for proper boot order A:,C: and not C:,A: > > > > If that doesn't solve it, see if your system will boot anything from a > > floppy (like dos). > > There IS the correct boot order in the BIOS, the disks is read for a short > time and then it goes over to the harddiscs. > > And, yes, an old M$ DOS disks boots the system properly. > > *sigh* I'm gonna try out Rawrite... > > Thanks for your help and suggestions. > > Alexander Probably the easiest way to get it going for now. It sounds like the system you're running dd on is needing a debian install, too. If there are some additional commands or arguments needed to make floppies from other (i.e. old) Linux systems, they should be added to the installation instructions. I know that there are other /dev/fd* possibilities for different capacities, etc. +--+ + Paul Wade Greenbush Technologies Corporation + + mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.greenbush.com/ + +--+ + http://www.wtop.com/What does W.T.O.P. mean? + +--+
Re: Question on install
On Fri, 11 Apr 1997, Alexander Koch wrote: > Hi again. > > Well, since it is said and I experienced it several times the making of the > boot floppies is not that easy... > > My problem is that I take the resc1440.bin and write it to disc (with dd) > and when it comes to boot it just does nothing and the mbr of /dev/sda > (lilo) is taken. Is the floppy drive trying to read at boot? Make sure your system bios is set up for proper boot order A:,C: and not C:,A: If that doesn't solve it, see if your system will boot anything from a floppy (like dos). +--+ + Paul Wade Greenbush Technologies Corporation + + mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.greenbush.com/ + +--+ + http://www.wtop.com/What does W.T.O.P. mean? + +--+
