Re: [OT] Capitalism (was Re: columbia -- what really happened)

2003-02-09 Thread Paul Johnson
On Sat, Feb 08, 2003 at 10:16:09PM -0600, Gary Turner wrote:
 By the way, your message asks for a return receipt, which I would
 guess isn't everyone's preferred setting for a mailing list.
 
 Maybe for mail-lists we should honor requests for return receipts.  Talk
 about your self-induced DoS attack :)

Does mutt have a quadoption for this?

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Re: [OT] Capitalism (was Re: columbia -- what really happened)

2003-02-09 Thread Gary Turner
Paul Johnson wrote:

On Sat, Feb 08, 2003 at 10:16:09PM -0600, Gary Turner wrote:
 By the way, your message asks for a return receipt, which I would
 guess isn't everyone's preferred setting for a mailing list.
 
 Maybe for mail-lists we should honor requests for return receipts.  Talk
 about your self-induced DoS attack :)

Does mutt have a quadoption for this?

Paul, didn't you have a bounce set up for HTML?  Or was it the Dman?
Wasn't that in Exim, or procmail?  Seems like a confirmation could be
set up based on the same kind of parameters.  Since I just barely have
Mutt and Exim working, I'll bow to your expertise on this. ;)
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Re: [OT] Capitalism (was Re: columbia -- what really happened)

2003-02-08 Thread Daniel Barclay
Jack Nguy wrote:
 
 Why is this on this mailing list again?

By the way, your message asks for a return receipt, which I would
guess isn't everyone's preferred setting for a mailing list.

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Re: [OT] Capitalism (was Re: columbia -- what really happened)

2003-02-08 Thread Gary Turner
Daniel Barclay wrote:

Jack Nguy wrote:
 
 Why is this on this mailing list again?

By the way, your message asks for a return receipt, which I would
guess isn't everyone's preferred setting for a mailing list.

Maybe for mail-lists we should honor requests for return receipts.  Talk
about your self-induced DoS attack :)
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Re: [OT] Capitalism (was Re: columbia -- what really happened)

2003-02-04 Thread Sean Burlington
DvB wrote:


AFAIK, many European countries have been doing that for some time
now. Their citizens have a relatively high purchasing power, yet they
still have relatively successful and extensive social programs.

The ideology that there must be something wrong with you if you don't
make enough money to, not only feed yourself and your family, but also
purchase a large house on a large tract of land and at least two cars is
almost exclusively American. Of course, like most things American, it's
been spreading like a pleague.

Not to say that Europe is a utopian society and the US should emulate
it to the farthest extent possible, but the current trend of being as
exactly oposite as possible is counter-productive, IMHO. There
definitely are some things to be learned from the European model.




why do I get the impression that some people on this list forget that 
Debian is an international project ?

This whole thread seems to be treating the rest of the world like some 
distant scenery.

and BTW Europe is made up of lots of countries, there is more than one 
model !

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Re: [OT] Capitalism (was Re: columbia -- what really happened)

2003-02-04 Thread DvB
Sean Burlington [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 DvB wrote:
 
  AFAIK, many European countries have been doing that for some time
  now. Their citizens have a relatively high purchasing power, yet they
  still have relatively successful and extensive social programs.
  The ideology that there must be something wrong with you if you don't
  make enough money to, not only feed yourself and your family, but also
  purchase a large house on a large tract of land and at least two cars is
  almost exclusively American. Of course, like most things American, it's
  been spreading like a pleague.
  Not to say that Europe is a utopian society and the US should emulate
  it to the farthest extent possible, but the current trend of being as
  exactly oposite as possible is counter-productive, IMHO. There
  definitely are some things to be learned from the European model.
 
 
 why do I get the impression that some people on this list forget that
 Debian is an international project ?
 
 This whole thread seems to be treating the rest of the world like some
 distant scenery.
 
 and BTW Europe is made up of lots of countries, there is more than one
 model !
 

Sorry about that. I'm aware that many, if not most, people on d-u aren't
from the US, but I had a sudden urge to rant and, since I live in the
US, had no choice but to do so from a USian perspective ;-)

As you say, there are many individual European nations and they're not
all the same but, compared the the US, they're more alike than they are
different, hence my use of the term Europen model.

I digress :-)


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RE: [OT] Capitalism (was Re: columbia -- what really happened)

2003-02-04 Thread Charlie Reiman


 -Original Message-
 From: Sean Burlington [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 11:45 AM
 To: DvB
 Cc: Debian-User
 Subject: Re: [OT] Capitalism (was Re: columbia -- what really happened)

 This whole thread seems to be treating the rest of the world like some
 distant scenery.


From any given point on the world, the rest of the world _is_ distant
scenery. For futher discussion, see Here vs. There, and Small or Far
Away: A Case Study.

Can we please let all these Columbia/capitalism/America (sucks/rules)
threads just die now? Please? I'm all in favor of ranting and discussion but
this just isn't the place.



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RE: [OT] Capitalism (was Re: columbia -- what really happened)

2003-02-04 Thread Xavier Bestel

  This whole thread seems to be treating the rest of the world like some
  distant scenery.
 
 
 From any given point on the world, the rest of the world _is_ distant
 scenery. For futher discussion, see Here vs. There, and Small or Far
 Away: A Case Study.

Depending on countries, people are more or less open to the rest of the
world.



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Re: [OT] Capitalism (was Re: columbia -- what really happened)

2003-02-04 Thread Sean Burlington
Charlie Reiman wrote:



-Original Message-
From: Sean Burlington [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 11:45 AM
To: DvB
Cc: Debian-User
Subject: Re: [OT] Capitalism (was Re: columbia -- what really happened)

This whole thread seems to be treating the rest of the world like some
distant scenery.





From any given point on the world, the rest of the world _is_ distant

scenery. For futher discussion, see Here vs. There, and Small or Far
Away: A Case Study.


this list isn't on *any* given point on the world (or rather it is on 
lots of points).

get some perspective - see the world ;)


Can we please let all these Columbia/capitalism/America (sucks/rules)
threads just die now? Please? I'm all in favor of ranting and discussion but
this just isn't the place.



sure - just someone you disagree with have the last word ;)))

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Re: [OT] Capitalism (was Re: columbia -- what really happened)

2003-02-04 Thread Jack Nguy
Why is this on this mailing list again?

-Jack
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Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 5:05 PM
Subject: Re: [OT] Capitalism (was Re: columbia -- what really happened)


 Charlie Reiman wrote:
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Sean Burlington [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 11:45 AM
 To: DvB
 Cc: Debian-User
 Subject: Re: [OT] Capitalism (was Re: columbia -- what really happened)
 
 This whole thread seems to be treating the rest of the world like some
 distant scenery.
 
 
 
 From any given point on the world, the rest of the world _is_ distant
  scenery. For futher discussion, see Here vs. There, and Small or Far
  Away: A Case Study.

 this list isn't on *any* given point on the world (or rather it is on
 lots of points).

 get some perspective - see the world ;)


  Can we please let all these Columbia/capitalism/America (sucks/rules)
  threads just die now? Please? I'm all in favor of ranting and discussion
but
  this just isn't the place.


 sure - just someone you disagree with have the last word ;)))

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