Re: Debian on an iBook

2006-04-23 Thread Florian Kulzer
On Sat, Apr 22, 2006 at 15:07:43 +0100, James Dunn wrote:
 Florian Kulzer wrote:

[...]

 egrep \((EE|WW)\) /var/log/XFree86.0.log
   
 Ok this is what I get:
 
   (ww) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown
 (EE) VGA(0): Cannot read V_BIOS (5)
 (WW) VGA(0): Mode pool is empty

I have never seen such an error before, but I have no experience with
Debian on the PowerPC architecture. Maybe you will have more luck if you
ask for help on the debian-powerpc list:

http://lists.debian.org/debian-powerpc/

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Re: Debian on an iBook

2006-04-22 Thread James Dunn




I can't find all the characters to type this command! 
egrep '^\((EE|WW)\)' /var/log/XFree86.0.log
I guessing my keyboard is not configured properly either - the
characters I can't find are ^
and ' although there is a similar apostrophe. Here's is the contents
of /etc/X11/XF86Config-4
:

# XF86Config-4 (XFree86 X Window System server configuration file)
#
# This file was generated by dexconf, the Debian X Configuration tool, using
# values from the debconf database.
#
# Edit this file with caution, and see the XF86Config-4 manual page.
# (Type "man XF86Config-4" at the shell prompt.)
#
# This file is automatically updated on xserver-xfree86 package upgrades *only*
# if it has not been modified since the last upgrade of the xserver-xfree86
# package.
#
# If you have edited this file but would like it to be automatically updated
# again, run the following commands as root:
#
# cp /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 /etc/X11/XF86Config-4.custom
# md5sum /etc/X11/XF86Config-4  /var/lib/xfree86/XF86Config-4.md5sum
# dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86

Section "Files"
 FontPath "unix/:7100"   # local font server
 # if the local font server has problems, we can fall back on these
 FontPath "/usr/lib/X11/fonts/misc"
 FontPath "/usr/lib/X11/fonts/cyrillic"
 FontPath "/usr/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/:unscaled"
 FontPath "/usr/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/:unscaled"
 FontPath "/usr/lib/X11/fonts/Type1"
 FontPath "/usr/lib/X11/fonts/CID"
 FontPath "/usr/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo"
 FontPath "/usr/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi"
 FontPath "/usr/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi" 
EndSection

Section "Module"
 Load "GLcore"
 Load "bitmap"
 Load "dbe"
 Load "ddc"
 Load "dri"
 Load "extmod"
 Load "freetype"
 Load "glx"
 Load "int10"
 Load "record"
 Load "speedo"
 Load "type1"
 Load "vbe" 
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
 Identifier "Generic Keyboard"
 Driver  "keyboard"
 Option  "CoreKeyboard"
 Option  "XkbRules" "xfree86"
 Option  "XkbModel" "macintosh"
 Option  "XkbLayout" "us"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
 Identifier "Configured Mouse"
 Driver  "mouse"
 Option  "CorePointer"
 Option  "Device"  "/dev/psaux"
 Option  "Protocol"  "PS/2"
EndSection
Section "InputDevice"
 Identifier "Generic Mouse"
 Driver  "mouse"
 Option  "SendCoreEvents" "true"
 Option  "Device"  "/dev/input/mice"
 Option  "Protocol"  "ImPS/2"
EndSection

Section "Device"
 Identifier "ATI Radeon Mobility 7500"
 Driver  "ati"
 BusID  "PCI:0:10:0"
 VideoRam 32768
EndSection

Section "Monitor"
 Identifier "Generic Monitor"
 HorizSync 28-33
 VertRefresh 43-72
 Option  "DPMS"
EndSection

Section "Screen"
 Identifier "Default Screen"
 Device  "ATI Radeon Mobility 7500"
 Monitor  "Generic Monitor"
 DefaultDepth 24
 SubSection "Display"
  Depth  1
  Modes  "640x480"
 EndSubSection
 SubSection "Display"
  Depth  4
  Modes  "640x480"
 EndSubSection
 SubSection "Display"
  Depth  8
  Modes  "640x480"
 EndSubSection
 SubSection "Display"
  Depth  15
  Modes  "640x480"
 EndSubSection
 SubSection "Display"
  Depth  16
  Modes  "640x480"
 EndSubSection
 SubSection "Display"
  Depth  24
  Modes  "640x480"
 EndSubSection
EndSection

Section "ServerLayout"
 Identifier "Default Layout"
 Screen  "Default Screen"
 InputDevice "Generic Keyboard"
 InputDevice "Configured Mouse"
 InputDevice "Generic Mouse"
EndSection

Section "DRI"
 Mode 0666
EndSection



Florian Kulzer wrote:

  On Fri, Apr 21, 2006 at 14:21:16 +0100, James Dunn wrote:
  
  
I've tried reconfiguring xserver as described below, but no luck. I 
looked at lspci, and it says:

:00:10.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Radeon 
Mobility M7 LW [Radeon Mobility 7500] (prog-if 00 [VGA])
Subsystem: ATI Technologies Inc Radeon Mobility M7 LW [Radeon Mobility 7500]
Flags: bus master, stepping, 66MHz, medium devsel, latency 255, IRQ 48
Memory at 9800 (32-bit, prefetchable) [size=128M]
I/O ports at 802400 [size=256]
Memory at 9000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=64K]
Expansion ROM at 9002 [disabled] [size=128K]
Capabilities: [58] AGP version 2.0
Capabilities: [50] Power Management version 2

when I type startx, it says:

(EE) No devices detected.
Fatal server error:
no screens found

X10: fatal IO error 104 (Connection reset by peer) on X server ":0.0"
after 0 requests (0 known processed) with 0 events remaining

I looked at var/log/XFree86.0.log and at the end of the file it says:

(II) Primary Device is: PCI 00:10:0
(II) ATI: Candidate "Device" section "ATI Radeon Mobility 7500 M7 LW".
(WW) RADEON: No matching Device section for instance (BusID PCI:0:16:9) 
found
(EE) No devices detected.

Fatal server error:
no screens found

  
  
Something is really misconfigured. The quickest way to solve this is
probably for you to post your /etc/X11/XF86Config-4, so that we can get
a better idea of what is going on. Also, run the command

egrep '^\((EE|WW)\)' /var/log/XFree86.0.log

and include its output, so that we can see all error messages and
warnings of your X server.

  





Re: Debian on an iBook

2006-04-22 Thread Florian Kulzer
On Sat, Apr 22, 2006 at 12:28:10 +0100, James Dunn wrote:
 I can't find all the characters to type this command!
 
 egrep '^\((EE|WW)\)' /var/log/XFree86.0.log
 
 I guessing my keyboard is not configured properly either - the 
 characters I can't find are ^ and ' although there is a similar 
 apostrophe.

Don't worry about that now. You can use normal quotes and the ^ character
is not important, it just suppresses the output of one unnecessary line.
For what we need to know the following is fully equivalent:

egrep \((EE|WW)\) /var/log/XFree86.0.log

 Here's is the contents of  /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 :
 # XF86Config-4 (XFree86 X Window System server configuration file)

[...]

 Section Device
IdentifierATI Radeon Mobility 7500
Driverati
BusIDPCI:0:10:0

This is now identical to what your X server reports as the primary
device in that snippet from /var/log/XFree86.0.log which you posted in
your earlier mail. Therefore I would expect that you now get a different
error message. (Unless there is a mix-up between decimal and hexadecimal
numbers. I now realized that my graphics cards always had device numbers
for which this would not have mattered, therefore I never thought about
it before.)

VideoRam32768
 EndSection
 
 Section Monitor
IdentifierGeneric Monitor
HorizSync28-33
VertRefresh43-72
OptionDPMS
 EndSection
 
 Section Screen
IdentifierDefault Screen
DeviceATI Radeon Mobility 7500
MonitorGeneric Monitor
DefaultDepth24

[...]

SubSection Display
Depth24
Modes640x480
EndSubSection
 EndSection
 
 Section ServerLayout
IdentifierDefault Layout
ScreenDefault Screen
InputDeviceGeneric Keyboard
InputDeviceConfigured Mouse
InputDeviceGeneric Mouse
 EndSection
 
 Section DRI
Mode0666
 EndSection

Nothing out of the ordinary, as far as I can see. Check your log file
again. If you cannot get the modified egrep command to work, you can
manually copy (EE) and (WW) lines from XFree86.0.log which look like
they might be relevant.

One more thing: If you always insert your reply above the quoted
message, it will quickly become impossible for others to follow the
discussion. Therefore this practice of top-posting is very much
disliked on this list. Please insert you answers and comments into the
quoted text at the appropriate place to generate a coherent story.
More information on this topic is available here:
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 Florian Kulzer wrote:
 On Fri, Apr 21, 2006 at 14:21:16 +0100, James Dunn wrote:
   
 I've tried reconfiguring xserver as described below, but no luck. I 
 looked at lspci, and it says:
 
 :00:10.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Radeon 
 Mobility M7 LW [Radeon Mobility 7500] (prog-if 00 [VGA])
 Subsystem: ATI Technologies Inc Radeon Mobility M7 LW [Radeon Mobility 
 7500]
 Flags: bus master, stepping, 66MHz, medium devsel, latency 255, IRQ 48
 Memory at 9800 (32-bit, prefetchable) [size=128M]
 I/O ports at 802400 [size=256]
 Memory at 9000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=64K]
 Expansion ROM at 9002 [disabled] [size=128K]
 Capabilities: [58] AGP version 2.0
 Capabilities: [50] Power Management version 2
 
 when I type startx, it says:
 
 (EE) No devices detected.
 Fatal server error:
 no screens found
 
 X10: fatal IO error 104 (Connection reset by peer) on X server :0.0
 after 0 requests (0 known processed) with 0 events remaining
 
 I looked at var/log/XFree86.0.log and at the end of the file it says:
 
 (II) Primary Device is: PCI 00:10:0
 (II) ATI: Candidate Device section ATI Radeon Mobility 7500 M7 LW.
 (WW) RADEON: No matching Device section for instance (BusID PCI:0:16:9) 
 found
 (EE) No devices detected.
 
 Fatal server error:
 no screens found
 
 
 Something is really misconfigured. The quickest way to solve this is
 probably for you to post your /etc/X11/XF86Config-4, so that we can get
 a better idea of what is going on. Also, run the command
 
 egrep '^\((EE|WW)\)' /var/log/XFree86.0.log
 
 and include its output, so that we can see all error messages and
 warnings of your X server.
 
   

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Re: Debian on an iBook

2006-04-22 Thread James Dunn




Florian Kulzer wrote:

  On Sat, Apr 22, 2006 at 12:28:10 +0100, James Dunn wrote:
  
  
I can't find all the characters to type this command!

egrep '^\((EE|WW)\)' /var/log/XFree86.0.log

I guessing my keyboard is not configured properly either - the 
characters I can't find are ^ and ' although there is a similar 
apostrophe.

  
  
Don't worry about that now. You can use normal quotes and the ^ character
is not important, it just suppresses the output of one unnecessary line.
For what we need to know the following is fully equivalent:

egrep "\((EE|WW)\)" /var/log/XFree86.0.log
  

Ok this is what I get:
	(ww) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown
(EE) VGA(0): Cannot read V_BIOS (5)
(WW) VGA(0): Mode pool is empty




  
  
Here's is the contents of  /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 :
# XF86Config-4 (XFree86 X Window System server configuration file)

  
  
[...]

  
  
Section "Device"
   Identifier"ATI Radeon Mobility 7500"
   Driver"ati"
   BusID"PCI:0:10:0"

  
  
This is now identical to what your X server reports as the primary
device in that snippet from /var/log/XFree86.0.log which you posted in
your earlier mail. Therefore I would expect that you now get a different
error message. (Unless there is a mix-up between decimal and hexadecimal
numbers. I now realized that my graphics cards always had device numbers
for which this would not have mattered, therefore I never thought about
it before.)

  

yes I get a different error message now:
Fatal server error:
Caught signal 11. Server aborting

  
  
   VideoRam32768
EndSection

Section "Monitor"
   Identifier"Generic Monitor"
   HorizSync28-33
   VertRefresh43-72
   Option"DPMS"
EndSection

Section "Screen"
   Identifier"Default Screen"
   Device"ATI Radeon Mobility 7500"
   Monitor"Generic Monitor"
   DefaultDepth24

  
  
[...]

  
  
   SubSection "Display"
   Depth24
   Modes"640x480"
   EndSubSection
EndSection

Section "ServerLayout"
   Identifier"Default Layout"
   Screen"Default Screen"
   InputDevice"Generic Keyboard"
   InputDevice"Configured Mouse"
   InputDevice"Generic Mouse"
EndSection

Section "DRI"
   Mode0666
EndSection

  
  
Nothing out of the ordinary, as far as I can see. Check your log file
again. If you cannot get the modified egrep command to work, you can
manually copy "(EE)" and "(WW)" lines from XFree86.0.log which look like
they might be relevant.

One more thing: If you always insert your reply above the quoted
message, it will quickly become impossible for others to follow the
discussion. Therefore this practice of "top-posting" is very much
disliked on this list. Please insert you answers and comments into the
quoted text at the appropriate place to generate a coherent "story".
More information on this topic is available here:
http://people.cornell.edu/pages/kk288/du-guidelines.html
  

Got it!

  
  
Florian Kulzer wrote:


  On Fri, Apr 21, 2006 at 14:21:16 +0100, James Dunn wrote:
 
  
  
I've tried reconfiguring xserver as described below, but no luck. I 
looked at lspci, and it says:

:00:10.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Radeon 
Mobility M7 LW [Radeon Mobility 7500] (prog-if 00 [VGA])
Subsystem: ATI Technologies Inc Radeon Mobility M7 LW [Radeon Mobility 
7500]
Flags: bus master, stepping, 66MHz, medium devsel, latency 255, IRQ 48
Memory at 9800 (32-bit, prefetchable) [size=128M]
I/O ports at 802400 [size=256]
Memory at 9000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=64K]
Expansion ROM at 9002 [disabled] [size=128K]
Capabilities: [58] AGP version 2.0
Capabilities: [50] Power Management version 2

when I type startx, it says:

(EE) No devices detected.
Fatal server error:
no screens found

X10: fatal IO error 104 (Connection reset by peer) on X server ":0.0"
after 0 requests (0 known processed) with 0 events remaining

I looked at var/log/XFree86.0.log and at the end of the file it says:

(II) Primary Device is: PCI 00:10:0
(II) ATI: Candidate "Device" section "ATI Radeon Mobility 7500 M7 LW".
(WW) RADEON: No matching Device section for instance (BusID PCI:0:16:9) 
found
(EE) No devices detected.

Fatal server error:
no screens found
   

  
  Something is really misconfigured. The quickest way to solve this is
probably for you to post your /etc/X11/XF86Config-4, so that we can get
a better idea of what is going on. Also, run the command

egrep '^\((EE|WW)\)' /var/log/XFree86.0.log

and include its output, so that we can see all error messages and
warnings of your X server.

 
  

  
  
  





Re: Debian on an iBook

2006-04-21 Thread James Dunn




I've tried reconfiguring xserver as
described below, but no luck. I looked at lspci, and it says:

:00:10.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Radeon
Mobility M7 LW [Radeon Mobility 7500] (prog-if 00 [VGA])
Subsystem: ATI Technologies
Inc Radeon Mobility M7
LW [Radeon Mobility 7500]
Flags: bus master, stepping, 66MHz, medium devsel, latency 255, IRQ 48
Memory at 9800 (32-bit, prefetchable) [size=128M]
I/O ports at 802400 [size=256]
Memory at 9000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=64K]
Expansion ROM at 9002 [disabled] [size=128K]
Capabilities: [58] AGP version 2.0
Capabilities: [50]
Power Management version 2

when I type startx, it says:

(EE) No devices detected.
Fatal server error:
no screens found

X10: fatal IO error 104 (Connection reset by peer) on X server ":0.0"
after 0 requests (0 known processed) with 0 events remaining

I looked at var/log/XFree86.0.log and at the end of the file it says:

(II) Primary Device is: PCI 00:10:0
(II) ATI: Candidate "Device" section "ATI Radeon Mobility 7500 M7 LW".
(WW) RADEON: No matching Device section for instance (BusID PCI:0:16:9)
found
(EE) No devices detected.

Fatal server error:
no screens found




Andrew Sackville-West wrote:

  On Thu, Apr 20, 2006 at 11:34:18AM +0100, James Dunn wrote:
  
  
Hi,

I have just installed Debian onto my iBook (900MHz PowerPC G3, 640MB 
SDRAM, ATY Rage M7 Video). I followed the instructions here: 
http://people.debian.org/~branden/ibook.html
1) Debian boots ok, but the X Server isn't configured properly - is 
there a guide to do this? (i'm a newbie!)

  
  
there are many guides. the basic procedure though, is to figure out
what hardware you have (lspci -vv and look for the video controller)
and then dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86... sometimes over and over
until you get it right. It helps if youjust use startx to test you
xf86config as there's less overhead and IMO fewer potential problems
than as associated with [g|k|x]dm. Once you get a working X setup, if
you want to use a *dm, then you will know that any further problems
aren't associated with X. be sure to post your problems up here as
many can help you. be sure to include ouput from
/var/log/Xfree86.log.0 with a focus on (EE) lines in that log.
  





Re: Debian on an iBook

2006-04-21 Thread Florian Kulzer
On Fri, Apr 21, 2006 at 14:21:16 +0100, James Dunn wrote:
 I've tried reconfiguring xserver as described below, but no luck. I 
 looked at lspci, and it says:
 
 :00:10.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Radeon 
 Mobility M7 LW [Radeon Mobility 7500] (prog-if 00 [VGA])
 Subsystem: ATI Technologies Inc Radeon Mobility M7 LW [Radeon Mobility 7500]
 Flags: bus master, stepping, 66MHz, medium devsel, latency 255, IRQ 48
 Memory at 9800 (32-bit, prefetchable) [size=128M]
 I/O ports at 802400 [size=256]
 Memory at 9000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=64K]
 Expansion ROM at 9002 [disabled] [size=128K]
 Capabilities: [58] AGP version 2.0
 Capabilities: [50] Power Management version 2
 
 when I type startx, it says:
 
 (EE) No devices detected.
 Fatal server error:
 no screens found
 
 X10: fatal IO error 104 (Connection reset by peer) on X server :0.0
 after 0 requests (0 known processed) with 0 events remaining
 
 I looked at var/log/XFree86.0.log and at the end of the file it says:
 
 (II) Primary Device is: PCI 00:10:0
 (II) ATI: Candidate Device section ATI Radeon Mobility 7500 M7 LW.
 (WW) RADEON: No matching Device section for instance (BusID PCI:0:16:9) 
 found
 (EE) No devices detected.
 
 Fatal server error:
 no screens found

Something is really misconfigured. The quickest way to solve this is
probably for you to post your /etc/X11/XF86Config-4, so that we can get
a better idea of what is going on. Also, run the command

egrep '^\((EE|WW)\)' /var/log/XFree86.0.log

and include its output, so that we can see all error messages and
warnings of your X server.

-- 
Regards,
  Florian


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Re: Debian on an iBook

2006-04-21 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Fri, Apr 21, 2006 at 02:21:16PM +0100, James Dunn wrote:
 I've tried reconfiguring xserver as described below, but no luck. I 
 looked at lspci, and it says:
 
 :00:10.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Radeon 
 Mobility M7 LW [Radeon Mobility 7500] (prog-if 00 [VGA])
 Subsystem: ATI Technologies Inc Radeon Mobility M7 LW [Radeon Mobility 7500]
 Flags: bus master, stepping, 66MHz, medium devsel, latency 255, IRQ 48
 Memory at 9800 (32-bit, prefetchable) [size=128M]
 I/O ports at 802400 [size=256]
 Memory at 9000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=64K]
 Expansion ROM at 9002 [disabled] [size=128K]
 Capabilities: [58] AGP version 2.0
 Capabilities: [50] Power Management version 2
 
 when I type startx, it says:
 
 (EE) No devices detected.
 Fatal server error:
 no screens found
 
 X10: fatal IO error 104 (Connection reset by peer) on X server :0.0
 after 0 requests (0 known processed) with 0 events remaining
 
 I looked at var/log/XFree86.0.log and at the end of the file it says:
 
 (II) Primary Device is: PCI 00:10:0
 (II) ATI: Candidate Device section ATI Radeon Mobility 7500 M7 LW.
 (WW) RADEON: No matching Device section for instance (BusID PCI:0:16:9) 
 found
 (EE) No devices detected.

my guess is that you've mis-entered the bus information into your
xserver configuration. the Primary Device above is PCI 00:10:0 and the
(WW) line refers to PCI:0:16:9 the lspci output above says, to my eyes
that the bus id should be PCI:00:16:0 where its entered in decimal in
the configuration program and displayed in hex by lspci. 

but, follow FLorian's advice and post that stuff for us. 

A


 
 Fatal server error:
 no screens found
 
 
 
 
 Andrew Sackville-West wrote:
 On Thu, Apr 20, 2006 at 11:34:18AM +0100, James Dunn wrote:
   
 Hi,
 
 I have just installed Debian onto my iBook (900MHz PowerPC G3, 640MB 
 SDRAM, ATY Rage M7 Video). I followed the instructions here: 
 http://people.debian.org/~branden/ibook.html
 1) Debian boots ok, but the X Server isn't configured properly - is 
 there a guide to do this? (i'm a newbie!)
 
 
 there are many guides. the basic procedure though, is to figure out
 what hardware you have (lspci -vv and look for the video controller)
 and then dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86... sometimes over and over
 until you get it right. It helps if youjust use startx to test you
 xf86config as there's less overhead and IMO fewer potential problems
 than as associated with [g|k|x]dm. Once you get a working X setup, if
 you want to use a *dm, then you will know that any further problems
 aren't associated with X. be sure to post your problems up here as
 many can help you. be sure to include ouput from
 /var/log/Xfree86.log.0 with a focus on (EE) lines in that log.
   


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Re: Debian on an iBook

2006-04-20 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Thu, Apr 20, 2006 at 11:34:18AM +0100, James Dunn wrote:
 Hi,
 
 I have just installed Debian onto my iBook (900MHz PowerPC G3, 640MB 
 SDRAM, ATY Rage M7 Video). I followed the instructions here: 
 http://people.debian.org/~branden/ibook.html
 1) Debian boots ok, but the X Server isn't configured properly - is 
 there a guide to do this? (i'm a newbie!)

there are many guides. the basic procedure though, is to figure out
what hardware you have (lspci -vv and look for the video controller)
and then dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86... sometimes over and over
until you get it right. It helps if youjust use startx to test you
xf86config as there's less overhead and IMO fewer potential problems
than as associated with [g|k|x]dm. Once you get a working X setup, if
you want to use a *dm, then you will know that any further problems
aren't associated with X. be sure to post your problems up here as
many can help you. be sure to include ouput from
/var/log/Xfree86.log.0 with a focus on (EE) lines in that log.

 2) I can't seem to shutdown properly - I log in as root, then type 
 shutdown now. It appears to shutdown some programs, but then goes to 
 a prompt about maintenance and type control-d to continue. It then 
 goes back to login prompt.

shutdown -h now

(-h tells the system to halt, otherwise you just go in to maintenance
mode or init level 1.)

A

 
 many thanks in advance
 
 James
 
 
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Re: Debian install on ibook, blank screen

2004-05-15 Thread Jonathan Melhuish
Ben Cade wrote:
2. I can also allow the system to boot into the yaboot prompt, in 
which case I can only boot to Linux and again I get a blank (black) 
screen.

What is my next step???
Do you get a blank screen straight away, or do you get some text bootup
messages and then the screen goes blank?  If it's the latter, your X
setup needs sorting, if it's the former then something more fundamental
is wrong (or you're using a graphical startup mode).
In any case, I can't help you as I'm not lucky enough to own an iBook!
Cheers,
Jon

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Re: Debian sur apple ibook

2003-09-05 Thread nissen
On Fri, 2003-09-05 at 00:07, Quetzalc wrote:
 Bonjour la liste des Debian's French Users,
 
 Est-ce que quelqu'un fait ronronner une Debian sur un Apple ibook (G3 
 600) par ici ?
   Si oui, merci de nous faire part de l'experience d'un utilisateur 
 heureux ;-)
   Sinon, tant pis, je me conteterais de la BSD Darwinisée.
 Merci.
Salut,
J'ai une debian sur un ibook 14'.Voici la doc qui ma permis d'y arriver
sans trop de probleme.
http://david.decotigny.free.fr/libre/ibook2-debian/
Tchô



RE : Debian sur apple ibook

2003-09-05 Thread STOJICEVIC E InfoEdpRsa
Bonjour la liste des Debian's French Users,

Salut,

Est-ce que quelqu'un fait ronronner une Debian sur un Apple ibook (G3 
600) par ici ?

Moi je la fais tourner sur un iBook G3 500 ;)

  Si oui, merci de nous faire part de l'experience d'un utilisateur 
heureux ;-)

Que recherches-tu comme informations exactement ? 

  Sinon, tant pis, je me conteterais de la BSD Darwinisée. Merci.

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Re: Debian sur apple ibook-II

2003-09-05 Thread Milou
Le Fri, 05 Sep 2003 17:14:08 +0200
john lejeune [EMAIL PROTECTED] à écrit:

 Bonjour et merci à Edi et Jean-paul,
Bonsoir,

 L'I-book accueillerait donc avec plaisir (et honneur !) une Debian. 
 Reste à retrouver rapidement les fonctions du portable. Autrement dit 
 sans trop de /etc/*.conf ;-)  à modifier ou de compil du noyau...(je 
 reste un laborieux newbie des unices...un impatient qui découvre,
 depuis sa campagne vierge d'install party, le monde en X!)
 
 Par fonctions, entendez, dans le désordre :
  Toaster à cd, disques externes firewire raid 1, carte son usb Edirol,
 borne Airport, impression et scan Epson...).
  Il ne s'agit pas des applis, utilisées avec succès depuis Mac et son 
 Darwin (bon, emacs resiste encore sous la dent, mais avec le temps
 ;-). Convaincu depuis lurette par Le libre, grâce à Apple. 
?? ok, j'avais oublié qu'on était vendredi :)

 Le switch,vers Unix!!!
 
 Une Debian donc, avec install' façon OS croix, Mdk ou Suze en fait. Je
 reste sur un mauvais souvenir de l'install d'une Yellow-dog  
 (non-install du reste ;) ) à l'époque de mon G4 des débuts (on ne se 
 refuse rien !) et, s'il est possible d'éviter un partitionnement des 
 disques pour rester au final sur OSX...vous avez votre homme ;-).
 A vrai dire, je crains qu'un repartitionnement de l'HD sur l'ibook en
 2 partie, une pour Apple, une pour Debian,  n'engendre la non 
 reconnaissance de mes sauvegardes sur les disques Raid. (Autrement dit
 que la nouvelle install d'Appple ne demande de reformater les disques 
 externes pour les monter en Raid. A moins que je ne me trompe.
 J'éspère, car je suis fainéant...haha).
 Merci encore.
 
Bon, une solution pour aider à la configuration de tout ce matériel et
pour ce faire la main sur debian serait peut-être un live-cd basé sur
debian, non?

Il y a la célèbre knoppix qui vient de sortir une version ppc
http://debian.tu-bs.de/knoppix/powerPC/ (c'est vraiment les débuts...)

Et... C'est tout pour le moment... Je n'en vois pas d'autres.
Si il y a aussi le debian-installer à tester (le futur outils
d'installation simplifier de la prochaine stable), mais attention, là il
y aura partitionnement...

mes 0,02 ¤

mil
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Re: Debian sur apple ibook-II

2003-09-05 Thread Milou
Le Fri, 05 Sep 2003 17:14:08 +0200
john lejeune [EMAIL PROTECTED] à écrit:

oops, un lien plus récent pour le debian-installer
http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/

mil
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Re: Debian sur apple ibook

2003-09-04 Thread mdwax
On Fri, 05 Sep 2003 00:07:45 +0200
Quetzalc [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Bonjour la liste des Debian's French Users,
 
 Est-ce que quelqu'un fait ronronner une Debian sur un Apple ibook (G3 
 600) par ici ?
   Si oui, merci de nous faire part de l'experience d'un utilisateur 
 heureux ;-)
   Sinon, tant pis, je me conteterais de la BSD Darwinisée.
 Merci.
 
 John L

Sur G4 alu 12, j'ai ma debian.

Cependant il existe une doc en francais sur le ibooK je crois.

Un petit tour sur : http://www.linux-on-laptops.com/apple.html
et peut etre le bonheur.


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Re: Debian on an iBook

2002-11-15 Thread Jesus Climent
On Thu, Nov 14, 2002 at 12:57:18PM -0800, Curtis Vaughan wrote:
 I was wondering whether anyone has been able to successfully install 
 Debian on an iBook. What problems were there?  And have you been able to 
 have it set up for dual boot between Debian linux and OS X?

check www.hispalinux.es/~data/ibook/

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Re: Debian on an iBook

2002-11-14 Thread Jim Hickstein
I haven't tried this yet, but depending on your motivations you might want 
to know about Fink (fink.sourceforge.net), which ports Debian's apt system 
to MacOS X.  Would that Fink got as much energy devoted to it as Debian 
generally

--On Thursday, November 14, 2002 12:57:18 -0800 Curtis Vaughan 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I was wondering whether anyone has been able to successfully install
Debian on an iBook. What problems were there?  And have you been able to
have it set up for dual boot between Debian linux and OS X?

Curtis


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RE: Debian on an iBook

2002-11-14 Thread Gilger.John
Fink is highly over-rated (as is OSX). I am running Debian on a Ti PowerBook. Here are 
a couple of install guides: http://people.debian.org/~branden/ibook.html

http://cattlegrid.net/~christophe/titanium/

HTH

John

-Original Message-
From: Jim Hickstein [mailto:jxh;jxh.com]
Sent: Thursday, November 14, 2002 01:41 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: Re: Debian on an iBook 


I haven't tried this yet, but depending on your motivations you might want 
to know about Fink (fink.sourceforge.net), which ports Debian's apt system 
to MacOS X.  Would that Fink got as much energy devoted to it as Debian 
generally

--On Thursday, November 14, 2002 12:57:18 -0800 Curtis Vaughan 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I was wondering whether anyone has been able to successfully install
 Debian on an iBook. What problems were there?  And have you been able to
 have it set up for dual boot between Debian linux and OS X?

 Curtis




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Re: Debian on an iBook

2002-11-14 Thread Curtis Vaughan
Yeh, I agree that Fink is over-rated. I've used it and find it 
frustrating.  In fact, for whatever reason, running KDE under fink will 
eventually just drag my system down to a near stop.  I then have to 
close it and restart it.  

Here's a site I found.

http://mij.oltrelinux.com/ibook/step_step/index.html

Gilger.John wrote:

Fink is highly over-rated (as is OSX). I am running Debian on a Ti PowerBook. Here are a couple of install guides: http://people.debian.org/~branden/ibook.html

http://cattlegrid.net/~christophe/titanium/

HTH

John

-Original Message-
From: Jim Hickstein [mailto:jxh;jxh.com]
Sent: Thursday, November 14, 2002 01:41 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: Debian User List
Subject: Re: Debian on an iBook 


I haven't tried this yet, but depending on your motivations you might want 
to know about Fink (fink.sourceforge.net), which ports Debian's apt system 
to MacOS X.  Would that Fink got as much energy devoted to it as Debian 
generally

--On Thursday, November 14, 2002 12:57:18 -0800 Curtis Vaughan 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 

I was wondering whether anyone has been able to successfully install
Debian on an iBook. What problems were there?  And have you been able to
have it set up for dual boot between Debian linux and OS X?

Curtis


   




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Re: Debian on an iBook

2002-11-14 Thread Matt Richardson
I'm running an old Power Book G3 Series with OS X and Fink and it works 
wonderfully.  The support from the email list is fantastic.  I've only 
run into a couple of problems and they were resolved within a day thanks 
to the list.  Because of Fink I'm cutting my teeth on Linux with 
Debian.  Installation was a breeze, everything but the X server ran the 
first time.  Matter o' fact, as soon as I get some motivation to copy 
the log, I've got a question on configuring X

--Matt


On Thursday, November 14, 2002, at 01:40  PM, Jim Hickstein wrote:

I haven't tried this yet, but depending on your motivations you might 
want to know about Fink (fink.sourceforge.net), which ports Debian's 
apt system to MacOS X.  Would that Fink got as much energy devoted to 
it as Debian generally

--On Thursday, November 14, 2002 12:57:18 -0800 Curtis Vaughan 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I was wondering whether anyone has been able to successfully install
Debian on an iBook. What problems were there?  And have you been able 
to
have it set up for dual boot between Debian linux and OS X?

Curtis


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RE: Debian on an iBook

2002-11-14 Thread deFreese, Barry
You may also want to check out the Debian PPC mailing list.  I am on that
and there are several folks installing Debian on all flavors of Mac machines
and there has been quite a bit of discussion on the iBooks.

Good luck

Barry deFreese
NTS Technology Services Manager
Nike Team Sports
(949)-616-4005
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 I was wondering whether anyone has been able to successfully install
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 have it set up for dual boot between Debian linux and OS X?

 Curtis


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Re: Debian on an iBook

2002-11-14 Thread Scott Henson
On Thu, 2002-11-14 at 15:57, Curtis Vaughan wrote:
 I was wondering whether anyone has been able to successfully install 
 Debian on an iBook. What problems were there?  And have you been able to 
 have it set up for dual boot between Debian linux and OS X?
 
 Curtis

Someone in my LUG is battling with an iBook or similar right now.  check
the archives at morlug.org for more...

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