RE: HP LJ III with Jet Direct and Linux

2001-03-05 Thread Lewis, James M.
 
 I don't know if it can talk TCP or not.  It's an internal card, and I
 can set which io port to use from the panel menu (Parallel, Serial,
 optional), but I haven't found out how to get to any kind of
 configuration menu for the card.  I don't have any manuals 
 for the card,
 but I do have one for the printer.  Do you know how to get to more
 configuration options besides holding down the menu button for 5
 seconds?  That's how I get to configure which IO device to use.
 
 Rob

The last one I configured (a long time ago) was done via the IO menu.
In your case, probably the optional menu.  Once I got to the right menu,
I had to set the ip-addr using up and down arrows for each field in the
ip-addr.  Same for the net mask.  Once you have an ip-addr you can telnet
to it.

If that doesn't work, try using the mac address.  It should be on
the card (maybe with stickers).  Use arp to make an association with
the ip-addr you want and then telnet to that ip.  I'm being vague on
this because I haven't done it in a long time.  If anyone out there
remembers the procedure, speak up...  Of course, if it doesn't speak
tcp, this won't work.  Probably the same if tcp is disabled.

You might be able to find some info on the card from the hp web site.

I have done several of these things but not a lj3.  The most recent was
a 4550 and it was very easy to do from the front panel.  The lj3 front
panel is quite painful by comparison.

good luck
jim



Re: HP LJ III with Jet Direct and Linux

2001-03-03 Thread robhr
 on Fri, Mar 02, 2001 at 01:30:11PM -0600, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
  I have an old HP Laserjet III with an old JetDirect card in it
that I
  have purchaed used.  I have to use the parallel port to print to
it,
  but would like to use the network card instead.  It was configured
and
  running on another network, and there is some info to that respect
in
  the diagnostic info I can print out.

  I probably need to reconfigure it, but HP's tools don't detect it.
It
  appears to want to use ipx, and I can see it sending stuff out on
the
  network.  I figured it was a dhcp request, but dhcp doesn't see
it.
  Anyone know how to reset/configure these cards or have any ideas
of
  things to try?  HP has been less than helpful.  TIA.

 What's the status page show you in terms of networking?  Does it
tell
 you if TCP/IP is configured, or give an IP?  IIRC, on the HPLJIII,
you
 can walk through the menus on the onboard display to set up
networking
 -- you've got an LED display on the right hand side of the box?

 HP's online info is pretty good.  Not awesome, but reasonably
decent.
 Don't bother IMO with their phone support -- for starters, they
never
 sold you the system in the first place.

 For one of their older DeskJets, the networking reset keypress was
to
 restart the printer while holding the Online button.

The networking info page give me thi info:  Novell Ethernet/802.3,
firmware revision(A.01.00), node address (HW address), Jumper Select
(10Bast-T/LB ON), Linkdeat (Detected), Network No. (Unknown) and Frame
Type, Node Name (HOVD1_HUMANREL_HPIII_1), Mode (Queue Server), File
Server Name (HOVD-01).  Then it says I/O Card Not Ready : 1B  and
under that Initializing Network Adapter.  Then it gives network stats
which are all 0.

I don't know if it can use TCP/IP from that info.  When I hold down
the online button when starting the printer, it does a cold boot and
resets all the settings on the printer, but none of the JetDirect
settings.  I've got the LED display on the right side of the printer
but haven't found any level of menu that configures the JetDirect
card.

I've spent hours combing HP's online site and even found the type of
card I have.  I called them to get a manual, but they are out of
print.  The info I need may be on their site, but I haven't found it.
They have lots of info on it, but it's oranigzed badly.  Atleast for
me it is.  Know of anything else to try?

Rob



RE: HP LJ III with Jet Direct and Linux

2001-03-02 Thread Lewis, James M.

 
 I have an old HP Laserjet III with an old JetDirect card in it that I
 have purchaed used.  I have to use the parallel port to print to it,
 but would like to use the network card instead.  It was configured and
 running on another network, and there is some info to that respect in
 the diagnostic info I can print out.  I probably need to reconfigure
 it, but HP's tools don't detect it.  It appears to want to use ipx,
 and I can see it sending stuff out on the network.  I figured it was a
 dhcp request, but dhcp doesn't see it.  Anyone know how to
 reset/configure these cards or have any ideas of things to try?  HP
 has been less than helpful.  TIA.
 
 Rob
 
If you can configure it to talk tcp you have a chance.  I think some of
those things would only talk ipx or appletalk.  Try to configure it from
the front panel of the printer.  (maybe io menu or mio 1 or mio 2 menu?)
I have done this with a slightly newer printer but it should work with
the lj3.  Ummm... I guess I need to ask is it an internal card or
external box with a parallel cable?  The internal card can usually be
configured from the printer front panel.  If it is an external box, you
have to do a special power up reset that clears it.  Then use arp to
set up the mac addr to an ip addr and telnet to it.

Assuming you can get into it to make it talk tcp...  Here is a printcap
entry that works for me (lprng):

tnp077|Accounting lj3(pcl)
  :lp=tnp077%2501
  :sd=/var/spool/lpd/tnp077
  :if=/etc/magicfilter/ljet4l-filter
  :mx#0
:sf
:sh

You will have to change the %2501 to %9100.  Put the ip-addr of the
jetdirect
or a name that is in /etc/hosts or dns in place of tnp077.  Alter the
spool
directory entry accordingly.  Install magicfilter.  You can let it make
the printcap and edit it or just do it by hand to start with.
Use ljet4l-filter.  It works better for me than the lj3 filter.  If you
have problems with it, drop back and use ljet3-filter.

hope you have one that speaks tcp...

hth
jim

 
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Re: HP LJ III with Jet Direct and Linux

2001-03-02 Thread Rob Rati
Lewis, James M. wrote:
 
 
  I have an old HP Laserjet III with an old JetDirect card in it that I
  have purchaed used.  I have to use the parallel port to print to it,
  but would like to use the network card instead.  It was configured and
  running on another network, and there is some info to that respect in
  the diagnostic info I can print out.  I probably need to reconfigure
  it, but HP's tools don't detect it.  It appears to want to use ipx,
  and I can see it sending stuff out on the network.  I figured it was a
  dhcp request, but dhcp doesn't see it.  Anyone know how to
  reset/configure these cards or have any ideas of things to try?  HP
  has been less than helpful.  TIA.
 
  Rob
 
 If you can configure it to talk tcp you have a chance.  I think some of
 those things would only talk ipx or appletalk.  Try to configure it from
 the front panel of the printer.  (maybe io menu or mio 1 or mio 2 menu?)
 I have done this with a slightly newer printer but it should work with
 the lj3.  Ummm... I guess I need to ask is it an internal card or
 external box with a parallel cable?  The internal card can usually be
 configured from the printer front panel.  If it is an external box, you
 have to do a special power up reset that clears it.  Then use arp to
 set up the mac addr to an ip addr and telnet to it.
 
 Assuming you can get into it to make it talk tcp...  Here is a printcap
 entry that works for me (lprng):
 
 tnp077|Accounting lj3(pcl)
   :lp=tnp077%2501
   :sd=/var/spool/lpd/tnp077
   :if=/etc/magicfilter/ljet4l-filter
   :mx#0
 :sf
 :sh
 
 You will have to change the %2501 to %9100.  Put the ip-addr of the
 jetdirect
 or a name that is in /etc/hosts or dns in place of tnp077.  Alter the
 spool
 directory entry accordingly.  Install magicfilter.  You can let it make
 the printcap and edit it or just do it by hand to start with.
 Use ljet4l-filter.  It works better for me than the lj3 filter.  If you
 have problems with it, drop back and use ljet3-filter.
 
 hope you have one that speaks tcp...

I don't know if it can talk TCP or not.  It's an internal card, and I
can set which io port to use from the panel menu (Parallel, Serial,
optional), but I haven't found out how to get to any kind of
configuration menu for the card.  I don't have any manuals for the card,
but I do have one for the printer.  Do you know how to get to more
configuration options besides holding down the menu button for 5
seconds?  That's how I get to configure which IO device to use.

Rob



Re: HP LJ III with Jet Direct and Linux

2001-03-02 Thread kmself
on Fri, Mar 02, 2001 at 01:30:11PM -0600, [EMAIL PROTECTED] ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) 
wrote:
 I have an old HP Laserjet III with an old JetDirect card in it that I
 have purchaed used.  I have to use the parallel port to print to it,
 but would like to use the network card instead.  It was configured and
 running on another network, and there is some info to that respect in
 the diagnostic info I can print out.  

 I probably need to reconfigure it, but HP's tools don't detect it.  It
 appears to want to use ipx, and I can see it sending stuff out on the
 network.  I figured it was a dhcp request, but dhcp doesn't see it.
 Anyone know how to reset/configure these cards or have any ideas of
 things to try?  HP has been less than helpful.  TIA.

What's the status page show you in terms of networking?  Does it tell
you if TCP/IP is configured, or give an IP?  IIRC, on the HPLJIII, you
can walk through the menus on the onboard display to set up networking
-- you've got an LED display on the right hand side of the box?

HP's online info is pretty good.  Not awesome, but reasonably decent.
Don't bother IMO with their phone support -- for starters, they never
sold you the system in the first place.

For one of their older DeskJets, the networking reset keypress was to
restart the printer while holding the Online button.

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