RE: Hardware diagnostics

2009-05-20 Thread David Christensen
Scott Gifford wrote:

 I suspect a hardware problem,
 Can anybody recommend a good hardware diagnostic or burn-in program?
 I have used memtest86

I also use and recommend memtest86.  It tests your CPU, memory, and
everything between them and your keyboard and display to a greater or
lesser degree.  It usually finds bad memory on the first pass, but I
once tested a machine (Intel D945GNTLKR) that was marginal and took many
hours to fail.

http://www.memtest86.com/


You should download a bootable CD version of the diagnostic utility for
your system hard drive, burn it, and run it.  For example:

http://www.seagate.com/www/en-us/support/downloads/seatools/

 
http://support.wdc.com/product/download.asp?groupid=502sid=30lang=en


You should get yourself a power supply tester and use it.  I have this
one:

http://www.antec.com/Believe_it/product.php?id=ODk=


I've used CPU burn-in to stress test CPU's and thermal solutions:

http://users.bigpond.net.au/cpuburn/


You will need software to display the CPU temperature.  I use retail
motherboards, and they typically include a utility.  I've used
Motherboard Monitor in the past:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motherboard_Monitor


If you have a bootable Windows partition/ drive, I've used SISoftware
Sandra to benchmark and burn-in entire machines:

http://www.sisoftware.co.uk/


HTH,

David


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Re: Hardware diagnostics

2009-05-20 Thread Michael M. Moore
On Tue, 2009-05-19 at 23:37 -0400, Scott Gifford wrote:
 
 Can anybody recommend a good hardware diagnostic or burn-in program?
 I have used memtest86 and will try that, but ideally I'd like to
 stress test more of the system than just the memory.  Something that
 can run on Debian Etch while the machine is live is ideal, or
 something that can be run from a boot CD.  Free is preferred (of
 course), but any suggestions are welcome.

I haven't used it myself, but some folks in my local LUG have
recommended Breakin:

http://www.advancedclustering.com/software/breakin.html

It runs from a CD or USB key and is mostly open-source (except for one
library provided by Intel and one provided by AMD).  They say they've
built it from source on Red Hat/CentOS 5, Debian Lenny, and Ubuntu
Hardy.  They also provide a script if you want to build it yourself.

 Also, if anybody has a suggestion of what might fix an Etch system
 that's freezing up periodically with nothing in the logs, those
 suggestions are welcome too.  :-)

What's the CPU and chipset?  I've experienced freezes like that (nothing
in the logs, no kernel panic -- just ... stops working), but the problem
seems to be specific to my CPU and chipset.

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Re: Hardware diagnostics

2009-05-20 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 11:37:51PM -0400, Scott Gifford wrote:
 
 I have a Debian Etch installation that's beoming increasingly
 unstable.  It periodically freezes up, with nothing in the logs until
 it is rebooted.  I suspect a hardware problem, and would like to
 identify it or rule it out before doing an upgrade to Lenny.
 
 Can anybody recommend a good hardware diagnostic or burn-in program?
 I have used memtest86 and will try that, but ideally I'd like to
 stress test more of the system than just the memory.  Something that
 can run on Debian Etch while the machine is live is ideal, or
 something that can be run from a boot CD.  Free is preferred (of
 course), but any suggestions are welcome.
 
 Also, if anybody has a suggestion of what might fix an Etch system
 that's freezing up periodically with nothing in the logs, those
 suggestions are welcome too.  :-)
 
Apart from diags for specific hardware (e.g. my HP NetServer LPr
diagnostic disk), I use GRML (grml.org) 0.9 CD.  I run bad blocks (or
the appropriate fs checker with badblocks read/write/verify check) on
all filesystems.  grml also has memtest+ as a boot option (it can't run
properly with an OS running as well).

Have the kernel do verbose logging.  Consider remote logging; if your
hard drive freezes, there's no way for the log to be written.  Any
serious drive errors should be sent to the console unless you've told
the kernel to not send messages to the console; I guess you won't see
them if you are in X at the time; consider a serial console to another
box (or a real VT).  

Doug.


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Re: Hardware diagnostics

2009-05-19 Thread Daryl Styrk
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On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 11:37:51PM -0400, Scott Gifford wrote:
 Hello,
 
 I have a Debian Etch installation that's beoming increasingly
 unstable.  It periodically freezes up, with nothing in the logs until
 it is rebooted.  I suspect a hardware problem, and would like to
 identify it or rule it out before doing an upgrade to Lenny.
 
 Can anybody recommend a good hardware diagnostic or burn-in program?
 I have used memtest86 and will try that, but ideally I'd like to
 stress test more of the system than just the memory.  Something that
 can run on Debian Etch while the machine is live is ideal, or
 something that can be run from a boot CD.  Free is preferred (of
 course), but any suggestions are welcome.
 
 Also, if anybody has a suggestion of what might fix an Etch system
 that's freezing up periodically with nothing in the logs, those
 suggestions are welcome too.  :-)
 
 Thanks!
 
 Scott.

A friend and I were just discussing this earlier tonight. You could try 
any live-CD of your choice for a memory test.  

I found a thread for a hard drive test http://tinyurl.com/o3vmy7

while `true`; do mke2fs -c -c device; done  I believe that will 
perform a slower read/write test not sure if you'll be able to keep the data. 

And you can heat things up a bit with... md5sum /dev/zero which should get
things pretty hot pretty quickly, so keep an eye on your temps.

Aside from that there are a few other threads I found searching over the
archives.  http://tinyurl.com/ojnsce


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Re: Hardware diagnostics

2009-05-19 Thread Jerome BENOIT

Hello,

may you want let a try to
http://linux.softpedia.com/get/Utilities/stress-2881.shtml (Debian package 
stress)

Otherwise, have you try with a verbose kernel, namely a kernel with debugging 
options ?

hth,
Jerome

Scott Gifford wrote:

Hello,

I have a Debian Etch installation that's beoming increasingly
unstable.  It periodically freezes up, with nothing in the logs until
it is rebooted.  I suspect a hardware problem, and would like to
identify it or rule it out before doing an upgrade to Lenny.

Can anybody recommend a good hardware diagnostic or burn-in program?
I have used memtest86 and will try that, but ideally I'd like to
stress test more of the system than just the memory.  Something that
can run on Debian Etch while the machine is live is ideal, or
something that can be run from a boot CD.  Free is preferred (of
course), but any suggestions are welcome.

Also, if anybody has a suggestion of what might fix an Etch system
that's freezing up periodically with nothing in the logs, those
suggestions are welcome too.  :-)

Thanks!

Scott.




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