RE: Latex version 2.09 from 7 Dec 89 ??

2001-06-13 Thread Lewis, James M.

 
 Hi,
 
 Don't ask me why 'cus I don't know, but my fearless leader has decided
 he needs an ancient version of LaTex on his spiffy new Debian laptop.
 
 Since this is from Dec 1989, I'm going to go out on a limb and guess I
 can't get a .deb for it :)
 
 Anyone have a clue where I could find source, and what issues I might
 run into.
 
 I'm just hoping I don't need to pick through backup tapes from 10yrs
 ago to find this :)

Check out /usr/share/doc/texmf/help/Catalogue/entries/latex209.html
Says it isn't supported anymore but there are places to download it
from.
There is also /usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/base/latex209.def that says
it can be used as latex209 compatibility mode for latex2e.

hth
jim
 
 TIA,
 -Jon
  
 
 
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Re: Latex version 2.09 from 7 Dec 89 ??

2001-06-13 Thread David Z Maze
Jonathan D Proulx [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
JDP Don't ask me why 'cus I don't know, but my fearless leader has decided
JDP he needs an ancient version of LaTex on his spiffy new Debian laptop.
JDP 
JDP Since this is from Dec 1989, I'm going to go out on a limb and guess I
JDP can't get a .deb for it :)

(This kind of predating that whole Linux thing, yeah.  :-)

JDP Anyone have a clue where I could find source, and what issues I might
JDP run into.

Right Answer: LaTeX2e is intended to be a mostly-compatible successor
to LaTeX 2.09.  LaTeX is one of those bits of software that's actually 
held up to a promise of version compatibility; provided you don't do
anything too arcane, you can try just running your normal latex over
the input file.  It'll spew warnings about compatibility mode, but
that's what you expect.

(I know that LaTeX2e isn't 100% compatible with LaTeX 2.09, but I
don't entirely know what the differences are.  LaTeX2e added some
commands not present in 2.09, so there's a possibility of a namespace
conflict.  I think the other issues can only come up if the author of
the document was a 4th-level TeXpert or higher.)

MIT Answer: Up until a couple of years ago, Athena's default latex
installation was based on LaTeX 2.09.  So if you can find a Linux box
around with the SIPB installation of Red Hat 4.2/Athena 8.0 on it, it
should have a normal LaTeX 2.09.  (Then upgrade it to something more 
modern!)

-- 
David Maze [EMAIL PROTECTED]  http://people.debian.org/~dmaze/
Theoretical politics is interesting.  Politicking should be illegal.
-- Abra Mitchell



Re: Latex version 2.09 from 7 Dec 89 ??

2001-06-13 Thread Jonathan D. Proulx
On Wed, Jun 13, 2001 at 10:24:27AM -0400, David Z Maze wrote:

:Right Answer: LaTeX2e is intended to be a mostly-compatible successor
:to LaTeX 2.09.

Thanks, I'll try that first, this is all complecated by the fact that
I know *nothing* about TeX of any flavor...

:(I know that LaTeX2e isn't 100% compatible with LaTeX 2.09, but I
:don't entirely know what the differences are.  LaTeX2e added some
:commands not present in 2.09, so there's a possibility of a namespace
:conflict.  I think the other issues can only come up if the author of
:the document was a 4th-level TeXpert or higher.)

Hmmm. We'll see :0

I setup the laptop in question and rather blindly through all the TeX
stuff I could find at it, don't know what that works out to though...

:MIT Answer: Up until a couple of years ago, Athena's default latex
:installation was based on LaTeX 2.09.  So if you can find a Linux box
:around with the SIPB installation of Red Hat 4.2/Athena 8.0 on it, it
:should have a normal LaTeX 2.09.  (Then upgrade it to something more 
:modern!)

The AI Lab is it's own creature.  We don't use Athena and aren't on
18.0.0.0/8, but thanks for the pointer, if I can't get him going with
LaTeX2e I'll check with the SIPB folks.

-jon