Re: Monitoring AutoFS in SNMP

2010-12-09 Thread Brian


--- On Tue, 3/23/10, Brian  wrote:

> From: Brian 
> Subject: Monitoring AutoFS in SNMP
> To: "Debian User" 
> Date: Tuesday, March 23, 2010, 10:00 AM
> I am trying to find a MIB to monitor
> AutoFS but everything I find is tied to the current pid
> AutoFS is running under which of course changes each time it
> is restarted making it useless as a monitoring metric.
> 
> Has anyone setup SNMP to monitor AutoFS or a similar type
> of daemon on a Debain system?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Brian
> 

I ran across the solution to this and thought I would share it.  

By default Debian systems are not configured to have processes monitored by 
SNMP but it can be enabled by editing the /etc/snmp/snmpd.conf file.  To do so 
look for the Process checks section about a third of the way down in the file 
and to monitor autofs you would enter something like this:

proc automount

You can do something more sophisticated if you wish but it is not necessary.  
There is plenty of documentation within the snmpd.conf file that you really 
don't have to go anywhere else for more information in most applications.  

Once again the Debian developers have made it so blatantly obvious that I 
completely missed it.  I am sure the package maintainer is shaking their fist 
at the sky yelling, "Just how simple do I have to make it!"

Debian is the best.

Thanks all,

Brian



  


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RE: Monitoring AutoFS in SNMP

2010-03-24 Thread Brian
 
> If it spawns a new process each time it mounts a new
> partition, would it
> not have a parent process that would at least be constant
> on the server?
> If that's the case, maybe you should just monitor the
> parent process.
> Otherwise, it would make sense to monitor a partition
> instead of a pid
> for a specific spawned process.
> 
> James
> 

It looks like the parent process snmp mib is also tied to it's pid and would 
change whenever the daemon is restarted.

I am beginning to wonder if you can monitor Debian daemons at all with snmp.

Brian



  


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RE: Monitoring AutoFS in SNMP

2010-03-23 Thread James Wu

> We are using autofs to mount cdrom and dvd iso images.  There 
> are nearly 100 of them.  Too many to really monitor 
> individually so we wanted to just monitor autofs.  It looks 
> to me like each auto.* file in /etc spawns it's own process 
> and pid.  And the pid changes each time the daemon is 
> restarted or the mount point expires and is then re-mounted.  
> If we could just monitor the pid spawned by auto.master I 
> think that would do it for us.  I asked in another reply in 
> this thread if a daemon could be assigned a pid but don't 
> have a response yet.

If it spawns a new process each time it mounts a new partition, would it
not have a parent process that would at least be constant on the server?
If that's the case, maybe you should just monitor the parent process.
Otherwise, it would make sense to monitor a partition instead of a pid
for a specific spawned process.

James


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RE: Monitoring AutoFS in SNMP

2010-03-23 Thread Brian

> > I am trying to find a MIB to monitor AutoFS but
> everything I 
> > find is tied to the current pid AutoFS is running
> under which 
> > of course changes each time it is restarted making it
> useless 
> > as a monitoring metric.
> 
> I'm not familiar with autofs but if you do a snmpwalk for
> OID
> .1.3.6.1.2.1.25.2.3.1, you will find a listing of all the
> mounted
> partitions, maybe instead of monitoring autofs, monitor the
> existence of
> a specific partition instead? I assume that's why you'd
> want to monitor
> autofs in the first place anyways.
> 
> James
> 
We are using autofs to mount cdrom and dvd iso images.  There are nearly 100 of 
them.  Too many to really monitor individually so we wanted to just monitor 
autofs.  It looks to me like each auto.* file in /etc spawns it's own process 
and pid.  And the pid changes each time the daemon is restarted or the mount 
point expires and is then re-mounted.  If we could just monitor the pid spawned 
by auto.master I think that would do it for us.  I asked in another reply in 
this thread if a daemon could be assigned a pid but don't have a response yet.

Thanks, Brian


  


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Re: Monitoring AutoFS in SNMP

2010-03-23 Thread Brian
> > I am trying to find a MIB to monitor AutoFS but
> everything I find
> > is tied to the current pid AutoFS is running under
> which of
> > course changes each time it is restarted making it
> useless as a
> > monitoring metric.
> 
> ???  Isn't that a *good* thing?
> 
> I'd look at the "restart" section of the autofs startup
> script to see if there's a way to "regenerate" the MIB when
> you restart autofs.
> 
> Maybe, though, that's too hackish.
> 

I am sure it is a *good* thing security wise but it seems to be hampering 
usability at the moment.

I don't think you can rewrite a MIB on the fly.  I am no expert but I think 
they are written as products are developed then distributed as a support 
service.

I am curious though, it there a way to force a daemon to take a specific pid at 
startup?

Thanks,  Brian






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RE: Monitoring AutoFS in SNMP

2010-03-23 Thread James Wu

> I am trying to find a MIB to monitor AutoFS but everything I 
> find is tied to the current pid AutoFS is running under which 
> of course changes each time it is restarted making it useless 
> as a monitoring metric.

I'm not familiar with autofs but if you do a snmpwalk for OID
.1.3.6.1.2.1.25.2.3.1, you will find a listing of all the mounted
partitions, maybe instead of monitoring autofs, monitor the existence of
a specific partition instead? I assume that's why you'd want to monitor
autofs in the first place anyways.

James


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Re: Monitoring AutoFS in SNMP

2010-03-23 Thread Ron Johnson

On 2010-03-23 09:00, Brian wrote:

I am trying to find a MIB to monitor AutoFS but everything I find
is tied to the current pid AutoFS is running under which of

> course changes each time it is restarted making it useless as a
> monitoring metric.

???  Isn't that a *good* thing?

I'd look at the "restart" section of the autofs startup script to 
see if there's a way to "regenerate" the MIB when you restart autofs.


Maybe, though, that's too hackish.

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