RE: Netflix on Debian Linux
Mark, your answer was the most intriguing. So, if they are moving to HTML5, we can expect it to work on Linux in the future, can't we? That sounds promising. Do you have any link to a Roku box. Never heard of it. I have a desktop station in my room I use to play movies with Kaffeine. I don't like to watch movies on laptop. Small screen, and to expensive to diminish its useful life that way. http://www.amazon.com/Roku-2500R-HD-Streaming-Player/dp/B007KEZMX4/ Using HTML 5 and Javascript will not guarantee Linux support. There is the everpresent spectre of DRM to contend with. Anyway, it is difficult to harden Linux to prevent someone from using the debugging tools to reverse engineer the DRM. Windows is much harder to hack in that respect, So I don't hold out much hope of them to support Linux. (Speculation.) Besides, the tech support for Linux would be a nightmare for any company. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/006501cdc7dc$3c3a5200$b4aef600$@allums.com
RE: Netflix on Debian Linux
Hi Guys, Last month I signed a netflix account just to be amazed it did not work nor give support to linux. It requires Silverlight, which Microsoft never ported to Linux. Silverlight requires Dot Net, and while Mono works really well, it can't (yet), as far as I know, support Silverlight, even under Wine. There is a project called Moonlight that was trying to create a Mono and Linux counterpart, but I think it has stalled. Microsoft is deemphasizing Silverlight in favor of HTML 5 and Javascript, so a lot of the motivation for it is gone. Anyway, Moonlight can't run Netflix. After calling the call center and get the news, I just canceled it, very frustrated. Today, a friend sent me this link: http://www.iheartubuntu.com/2012/11/netflix-on-ubuntu-is-here.html Anyone knows about this? Anyone tried it on debian somehow? Is it possible? Any thoughts? Thanks! Beco It works. I have done so. However, It was not ideal. Installing Silverlight in Wine was painful, and Firefox runs not well for me under Wine. Javascript, in particular, is very slow, and requires much patience. Other than Netflix, I can't think of a good reason to ever want to use it instead of native iceweasel. I'm sure that it will run in Virtualbox, but who wants to install Windows on their Linux box? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/002701cdc753$308d9310$91a8b930$@allums.com
Re: Netflix on Debian Linux
On 11/20/2012 11:13 AM, Mark Allums wrote: Hi Guys, Last month I signed a netflix account just to be amazed it did not work nor give support to linux. It requires Silverlight, which Microsoft never ported to Linux. Silverlight requires Dot Net, and while Mono works really well, it can't (yet), as far as I know, support Silverlight, even under Wine. There is a project called Moonlight that was trying to create a Mono and Linux counterpart, but I think it has stalled. Microsoft is deemphasizing Silverlight in favor of HTML 5 and Javascript, so a lot of the motivation for it is gone. Anyway, Moonlight can't run Netflix. After calling the call center and get the news, I just canceled it, very frustrated. Today, a friend sent me this link: http://www.iheartubuntu.com/2012/11/netflix-on-ubuntu-is-here.html Anyone knows about this? Anyone tried it on debian somehow? Is it possible? Any thoughts? Thanks! Beco It works. I have done so. However, It was not ideal. Installing Silverlight in Wine was painful, and Firefox runs not well for me under Wine. Javascript, in particular, is very slow, and requires much patience. Other than Netflix, I can't think of a good reason to ever want to use it instead of native iceweasel. I'm sure that it will run in Virtualbox, but who wants to install Windows on their Linux box? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/002701cdc753$308d9310$91a8b930$@allums.com I've been using my dual boot laptop for Netfix for some time and am not completely satisfied with the results. My suggestion is to buy a Visio Blue Ray player that has a builtin receiver for netflx and several other sources for about $150. I think you will need a wifi connection to make it work. Gary R. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/50abdc28.7050...@verizon.net
Re: Netflix on Debian Linux
On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 01:26:14PM -0300, Beco wrote: Last month I signed a netflix account just to be amazed it did not work nor give support to linux. There's plenty of proprietary software that has poor or no functionality at all in Debian. After calling the call center and get the news, I just canceled it, very frustrated. If you want/need proprietary software, then it's probably best to stick with a proprietary platform. Having a local VM of Windows around is handy for this purpose. -- . o . o . o . . o o . . . o . . . o . o o o . o . o o . . o o o o . o . . o o o o . o o o pgp2y5ncBd54U.pgp Description: PGP signature
RE: Netflix on Debian Linux
Hi Guys, Last month I signed a netflix account just to be amazed it did not work nor give support to linux. After calling the call center and get the news, I just canceled it, very frustrated. Today, a friend sent me this link: http://www.iheartubuntu.com/2012/11/netflix-on-ubuntu-is-here.html Anyone knows about this? Anyone tried it on debian somehow? Is it possible? Any thoughts? Thanks! Beco I've been using my dual boot laptop for Netfix for some time and am not completely satisfied with the results. My suggestion is to buy a Visio Blue Ray player that has a builtin receiver for netflx and several other sources for about $150. I think you will need a wifi connection to make it work. Gary R. This works, as does buying a smart tv. If you have a game console, that also works for Wii, Xbox 360, and PS3. However, certain little black boxes, such as the Roku boxes, work, too, and these are cheaper if you already have a Blu-Ray Player, starting at around US $39.99.I bet they run with an embedded Linux, too. Of course OP may have wanted to use his laptop, in which case none of that will be helpful. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/002101cdc76b$682adcc0$38809640$@allums.com
Re: Netflix on Debian Linux
Hi Ralf, yes I agree: using software that is not stable sucks. I won't try this fix and bang my head to have some version of wine and silverlight to work. Nah... Thanks Gary D., for the link. I see your point, and I was angry when I discovered they didn't bother to give linux a chance. Hugo, funny. :) Gary R., is this what you're talking about: http://store.vizio.com/blu-ray-players.html As I see, you don't need a computer for it to work. Is that so? Just plug it on TV and internet? Or do you use it with a computer somehow? Hi Aaron. Yes, I want (nobody really needs netflix), but it's probably best to stick with Debian. Why people tend to suggest you leave? So non-gentle :( But regarding VM, thanks. I've tried that, and it works fine. I need VM to help students when they insist in use other systems... I wish everyone uses Debian. Well, we can't win always, can we? Mark, your answer was the most intriguing. So, if they are moving to HTML5, we can expect it to work on Linux in the future, can't we? That sounds promising. Do you have any link to a Roku box. Never heard of it. I have a desktop station in my room I use to play movies with Kaffeine. I don't like to watch movies on laptop. Small screen, and to expensive to diminish its useful life that way. Cheers, Beco -- Dr Beco A.I. researcher -- . -- Look again at that dot. That's here. That's home. That's us. On it everyone you love, everyone you know... (Carl Sagan, 1934-1996) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/caluyw2ycbdeope96g6d5udtgsfdrumj18uhwf13oz+5qwhz...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Netflix on Debian Linux
On Mon, 19 Nov 2012 13:26:14 -0300, Beco wrote: Hi Guys, Last month I signed a netflix account just to be amazed it did not work nor give support to linux. After calling the call center and get the news, I just canceled it, very frustrated. Today, a friend sent me this link: http://www.iheartubuntu.com/2012/11/netflix-on-ubuntu-is-here.html Anyone knows about this? Anyone tried it on debian somehow? Is it possible? Any thoughts? Thanks! Beco Netflix at least runs on my Android tablet, which uses a Linux kernel. It's not the same thing, of course. -- hendrik -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/k8h1na$9mp$1...@ger.gmane.org
Re: Netflix on Debian Linux
On 11/20/2012 02:33 PM, Beco wrote: Hi Ralf, yes I agree: using software that is not stable sucks. I won't try this fix and bang my head to have some version of wine and silverlight to work. Nah... Thanks Gary D., for the link. I see your point, and I was angry when I discovered they didn't bother to give linux a chance. Hugo, funny. :) Gary R., is this what you're talking about: http://store.vizio.com/blu-ray-players.html As I see, you don't need a computer for it to work. Is that so? Just plug it on TV and internet? Or do you use it with a computer somehow? Hi Beco No computer needed. The Vizio box does it all. There are probably other manufacturers but I think Vizio usually gives you more bang for your buck. I've found there products to work well and be reliable. They are also mostly made in Irvine California, a few miles down the road from where I live. It gives a whole new meaning to the term - factory return. If your not in the US then another brand may be better for you. Gary R. Hi Aaron. Yes, I want (nobody really needs netflix), but it's probably best to stick with Debian. Why people tend to suggest you leave? So non-gentle :( But regarding VM, thanks. I've tried that, and it works fine. I need VM to help students when they insist in use other systems... I wish everyone uses Debian. Well, we can't win always, can we? Mark, your answer was the most intriguing. So, if they are moving to HTML5, we can expect it to work on Linux in the future, can't we? That sounds promising. Do you have any link to a Roku box. Never heard of it. I have a desktop station in my room I use to play movies with Kaffeine. I don't like to watch movies on laptop. Small screen, and to expensive to diminish its useful life that way. Cheers, Beco -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/50ac12c0.9050...@verizon.net
Re: Netflix on Debian Linux
On Mon, 19 Nov 2012 13:26:14 -0300 Beco r...@beco.cc wrote: Hi Guys, Last month I signed a netflix account just to be amazed it did not work nor give support to linux. After calling the call center and get the news, I just canceled it, very frustrated. Today, a friend sent me this link: http://www.iheartubuntu.com/2012/11/netflix-on-ubuntu-is-here.html Anyone knows about this? Anyone tried it on debian somehow? Is it possible? Any thoughts? Thanks! Beco Sorry, Netflix is not available in your country yet :D however, Wiki claims it should run on Windows in VBox. Even if it's true that it works with wine today, you never know, if the next needed update will still work too. I experienced that apps that run in VBox on a XP 32-bit, service pack 2, are more reliable for the future, then apps that can be used with wine at a moment. I would ask the hotline, if Netflix will work on XP SP2 and then prefer VBox. I don't trust wine or other Windows versions running on Linux, just my neurotic sense ;), because I don't like, if something does work for a while and then gets broken in the future. Some software is known to work quasi always on wine, but I wouldn't trust something new, that needs special versions of wine. Even something stable as wineasio IMO is useless, as soon as you take care about something, other users might ignore. YMMV! Ralf -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20121119184705.615855eb@qrc
Re: Netflix on Debian Linux
On 19/11/12 12:47 PM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: On Mon, 19 Nov 2012 13:26:14 -0300 Becor...@beco.cc wrote: Hi Guys, Last month I signed a netflix account just to be amazed it did not work nor give support to linux. After calling the call center and get the news, I just canceled it, very frustrated. Today, a friend sent me this link: http://www.iheartubuntu.com/2012/11/netflix-on-ubuntu-is-here.html Anyone knows about this? Anyone tried it on debian somehow? Is it possible? Any thoughts? Thanks! Beco Sorry, Netflix is not available in your country yet :D however, Wiki claims it should run on Windows in VBox. Even if it's true that it works with wine today, you never know, if the next needed update will still work too. I experienced that apps that run in VBox on a XP 32-bit, service pack 2, are more reliable for the future, then apps that can be used with wine at a moment. I would ask the hotline, if Netflix will work on XP SP2 and then prefer VBox. I don't trust wine or other Windows versions running on Linux, just my neurotic sense ;), because I don't like, if something does work for a while and then gets broken in the future. Some software is known to work quasi always on wine, but I wouldn't trust something new, that needs special versions of wine. Even something stable as wineasio IMO is useless, as soon as you take care about something, other users might ignore. YMMV! Ralf You can also see http://www.thevarguy.com/2012/11/19/linux-gains-netflix-support-unofficially/. My take on it is reject Netflix so long as they reject Linux. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/50aa781e.1040...@rogers.com
Re: Netflix on Debian Linux
Gary Dale wrote: On 19/11/12 12:47 PM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: On Mon, 19 Nov 2012 13:26:14 -0300 Becor...@beco.cc wrote: Hi Guys, Last month I signed a netflix account just to be amazed it did not work nor give support to linux. After calling the call center and get the news, I just canceled it, very frustrated. Today, a friend sent me this link: http://www.iheartubuntu.com/2012/11/netflix-on-ubuntu-is-here.html Anyone knows about this? Anyone tried it on debian somehow? Is it possible? Any thoughts? Thanks! Beco Sorry, Netflix is not available in your country yet :D however, Wiki claims it should run on Windows in VBox. Even if it's true that it works with wine today, you never know, if the next needed update will still work too. I experienced that apps that run in VBox on a XP 32-bit, service pack 2, are more reliable for the future, then apps that can be used with wine at a moment. I would ask the hotline, if Netflix will work on XP SP2 and then prefer VBox. I don't trust wine or other Windows versions running on Linux, just my neurotic sense ;), because I don't like, if something does work for a while and then gets broken in the future. Some software is known to work quasi always on wine, but I wouldn't trust something new, that needs special versions of wine. Even something stable as wineasio IMO is useless, as soon as you take care about something, other users might ignore. YMMV! Ralf You can also see http://www.thevarguy.com/2012/11/19/linux-gains-netflix-support-unofficially/. My take on it is reject Netflix so long as they reject Linux. In any case their repertoire is limited, they don't even have Harrison Ford's 'The Fugitive'... Hugo -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/k8ed09$i3i$1...@ger.gmane.org
