Re: Newbie Having Much Trouble Getting Deb 2.4.18-bf2.4 To Work

2004-12-04 Thread Gayle Lee Fairless
Leonard Chatagnier wrote:
 Since my problems includes a
malfunctioning Mozilla mail client, 
Len Chatagnier

	One non-Debian way to get a late model browser and mailer for woody is 
to download the tarball file for Linux from netscape.com.  The 
downloader can download a small downloader that then downloads the 
pieces or download a larger tarball file that can install itself without 
a modem connection.

	I had the program to install itself to /usr/local/netscape after 
enabling write permissions for my user account.  The program copies with 
it the libraries necessary for it to run.  That is not in the default 
command path so it takes a different syntax to start it.  Of course you 
may prefer to be a purist and run what woody already has.  You should be 
able to get that working.

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Re: Newbie Having Much Trouble Getting Deb 2.4.18-bf2.4 To Work

2004-12-04 Thread Gayle Lee Fairless
reply below

On Fri, 3 Dec 2004, Leonard Chatagnier wrote:

> Hey, Thanks for the reference. I'm lurking the group emails and have read
> some manuals on board.  Problem is some are too geeky for me to understand
> although I've picked up a lot since installing linux about 2  months ago.  I
> have set outlook express to all text  mode as a result of using another
> discussion group for modem drivers.  Since my problems includes a
> malfunctioning Mozilla mail client, I copy anything I want to email to my
> zip drive and paste it into OE, maybe that's how it got coded.  I'm getting
> that cookbook hoping its more user friendly.
> Len Chatagnier

lots of
stuff deleted

> >
> > also still learning my Linux.  Look in the books section of Debian.org and
> > get one called a Cookbook.  It is Debian specific and gives you better
> > insight into the Debian GNU/Linux system.  Of course, browsing through

stuff deleted

> >
> > Enjoy your system and Season's Greetings!
> > (Mr.) Gayle Lee Fairless
> >
> >


The book is by Michael Stutz

THE LINUX COOKBOOK

 published by Linux Journal Press copyright 2001




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Re: Newbie Having Much Trouble Getting Deb 2.4.18-bf2.4 To Work

2004-12-03 Thread CW Harris
On Fri, Dec 03, 2004 at 01:45:33PM -0600, Leonard Chatagnier wrote:
> Thanks so much, that added enough clarity that I now know what was wrong.
> I'll read the manual.

You are welcome.  Also, please do not cc me. I read the lists. Please
browse through the Debian Mailing lists introduction, note especially
the Code of Conduct indicates some etiquette points, notably do not CC
unless requested. (I am sending you a copy in this particular case. I
hope this doesn't seem hypocritical :-P)

You can browse this here:
http://www.debian.org/MailingLists/#codeofconduct

I notice others have commented on top-posting.  Although I don't recall
anything explicit about top/bottom posting for this list, it is my
observation that most on this list prefer bottom posting. (Not trying
to start a flame war here :-)


Again, if you are new to Debian and don't have a lot of files to save
(or if you have some spare hard drive space for playing around) I would
recommend you try the new installer.  It is not quite released yet, but
is in very good shape, last time I looked (certainly much better shape
than the Woody installer---many improvements have been made [cudos to
the installer team]).

You can download a 100M network install CD image from here: 
http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/

(This is a few links off of the Getting Debian link on the main web
 site. Follow "Getting Debian" -> "downloading as you install"
-> "Minimal CD" )



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RE: Newbie Having Much Trouble Getting Deb 2.4.18-bf2.4 To Work

2004-12-03 Thread Croy, Nathan

> From: Leonard Chatagnier [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, December 03, 2004 11:43 AM
> 
> Ugh, don't know how to, yet.  Could you give me the command 
> or referenct?

Login as root and type the following:
echo chatagnier > /etc/hostname


To clarify my previous post:

In my other post I said source /etc/profile because, normally, this file is
automatically sourced when a normal user logs in, and PS1 (the variable that
controls how the prompt looks) is set there.  You sane always change that at
any time by doing something like PS1="My Prompt: ".

I also gave this option of sourceing ~/.profile because I didn't know if you
were logging in as a normal user or root.  On the system I use, when root
logs in, /etc/profile is NOT sourced, but the .profile file in root's home
directory is (the tilda (~) is shorthand for the current user's home
directory).


> Len Chatagnier
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Kent West" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Friday, December 03, 2004 8:42 AM
> Subject: Re: Newbie Having Much Trouble Getting Deb 
> 2.4.18-bf2.4 To Work
> 
> 
> > Leonard Chatagnier wrote:
> >
> > >RE: Nathan Croy's suggestions:
> > >#hostname=none
> > >I have no hostname file in /etc, only host.conf, 
> hosts.allow, hosts.deny
> and
> > >host.canna.
> > >
> > >
> > So create an "/etc/hostname" file, and in it have your computer's
> hostname.
> >
> > -- 
> > Kent West
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]


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Re: Newbie Having Much Trouble Getting Deb 2.4.18-bf2.4 To Work

2004-12-03 Thread Leonard Chatagnier
Thanks so much, that added enough clarity that I now know what was wrong.
I'll read the manual.
Len
- Original Message - 
From: "CW Harris" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, December 03, 2004 11:43 AM
Subject: Re: Newbie Having Much Trouble Getting Deb 2.4.18-bf2.4 To Work


> On Thu, Dec 02, 2004 at 11:12:34PM -0600, Leonard Chatagnier wrote:
> > Chris.
> > Thanks, I'll try your suggestion and report back on results.  FYI, the
url's
> > were copied verbatum from the Debian mirror list.  If they are formatted
> > incorrectly, I'm not aware, and why would the Debian site misformat
there
> > own links?.
>
> Maybe I wasn't clear.  The links are okay...but you need information
> after them in the sources.list file. Notice all the other lines.
> Following the URI is information about the distribution you want.
> E.g.
> deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ stable main contrib
>
> This gives the URI and specifies the stable distribution, main and
> contrib sections.
>
> >From the sources.list man page:
>The  format  for  a  sources.list entry using the deb and deb-src
types
>are:
>
>deb uri distribution [component1] [component2] [...]
>
> Note that the distribution is *required* information. (man sources.list)
>
>
> [...]
> > > Now my comments:
> > >
> > > deb ftp://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/
> > > deb ftp://ftp.uk.debian.org/debian/
> > > deb ftp://ftp.au.debian.org/debian/
> > > ^^ these are lines 26-28 they are not properly formatted.
> > > These 3 lines all give you the same info, they are just located in
> > > different countries.  Pick one mirror close to you and stick with
it.
> > >
> > > deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ stable main non-free contrib
> > > This line will get the US mirror of the stable distribution (I guess
> > > that is what you were trying to do above?)
> > >
> > > So delete lines 26-28 and I think your sources.list is fine.
>
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Re: Newbie Having Much Trouble Getting Deb 2.4.18-bf2.4 To Work

2004-12-03 Thread Adam Aube
Please stop top posting (which is putting your reply above the original
message) - it makes the thread hard to follow.

Leonard Chatagnier wrote:
> Kent West wrote:
>> Leonard Chatagnier wrote:

>> >I have no hostname file in /etc

>> So create an "/etc/hostname" file, and in it have your computer's
>> hostname.

> Ugh, don't know how to, yet.  Could you give me the command or referenct?

1) Login as root
2) Run this command:

echo "[name]" > /etc/hostname

[name] is the name you want to assign to the computer

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Re: Newbie Having Much Trouble Getting Deb 2.4.18-bf2.4 To Work

2004-12-03 Thread CW Harris
On Thu, Dec 02, 2004 at 11:12:34PM -0600, Leonard Chatagnier wrote:
> Chris.
> Thanks, I'll try your suggestion and report back on results.  FYI, the url's
> were copied verbatum from the Debian mirror list.  If they are formatted
> incorrectly, I'm not aware, and why would the Debian site misformat there
> own links?.

Maybe I wasn't clear.  The links are okay...but you need information
after them in the sources.list file. Notice all the other lines.
Following the URI is information about the distribution you want.
E.g.
deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ stable main contrib

This gives the URI and specifies the stable distribution, main and
contrib sections.

>From the sources.list man page:
   The  format  for  a  sources.list entry using the deb and deb-src types
   are:

   deb uri distribution [component1] [component2] [...]

Note that the distribution is *required* information. (man sources.list)


[...]
> > Now my comments:
> >
> > deb ftp://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/
> > deb ftp://ftp.uk.debian.org/debian/
> > deb ftp://ftp.au.debian.org/debian/
> > ^^ these are lines 26-28 they are not properly formatted.
> > These 3 lines all give you the same info, they are just located in
> > different countries.  Pick one mirror close to you and stick with it.
> >
> > deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ stable main non-free contrib
> > This line will get the US mirror of the stable distribution (I guess
> > that is what you were trying to do above?)
> >
> > So delete lines 26-28 and I think your sources.list is fine.

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Re: Newbie Having Much Trouble Getting Deb 2.4.18-bf2.4 To Work

2004-12-03 Thread Leonard Chatagnier
Ugh, don't know how to, yet.  Could you give me the command or referenct?
Len Chatagnier
- Original Message - 
From: "Kent West" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, December 03, 2004 8:42 AM
Subject: Re: Newbie Having Much Trouble Getting Deb 2.4.18-bf2.4 To Work


> Leonard Chatagnier wrote:
>
> >RE: Nathan Croy's suggestions:
> >#hostname=none
> >I have no hostname file in /etc, only host.conf, hosts.allow, hosts.deny
and
> >host.canna.
> >
> >
> So create an "/etc/hostname" file, and in it have your computer's
hostname.
>
> -- 
> Kent West
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: Newbie Having Much Trouble Getting Deb 2.4.18-bf2.4 To Work

2004-12-03 Thread Leonard Chatagnier
Hey, Thanks for the reference. I'm lurking the group emails and have read
some manuals on board.  Problem is some are too geeky for me to understand
although I've picked up a lot since installing linux about 2  months ago.  I
have set outlook express to all text  mode as a result of using another
discussion group for modem drivers.  Since my problems includes a
malfunctioning Mozilla mail client, I copy anything I want to email to my
zip drive and paste it into OE, maybe that's how it got coded.  I'm getting
that cookbook hoping its more user friendly.
Len Chatagnier
- Original Message - 
From: "Gayle Lee Fairless" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Leonard Chatagnier" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, December 03, 2004 7:37 AM
Subject: Re: Newbie Having Much Trouble Getting Deb 2.4.18-bf2.4 To Work


>
> (reply below)
>
> On Thu, 2 Dec 2004, Leonard Chatagnier wrote:
>
> > I didn't realize that sending the attachment raw over Outlook Express
would
> > cause this confusion.  I read it with notepad before sending to be sure
it
> > was readable.  I guess everone on the list is using linux software to
send
> > mail and I would have but it's not working right.  Sometimes I can
receive
> > and send, many times not.  I'll be using a dual boot system for a long
time,
> > until I know a lot more about linux.
> > Len Chatagnier
> > - Original Message - 
> > From: "Gayle Fairless" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2004 1:54 PM
> > Subject: Re: Newbie Having Much Trouble Getting Deb 2.4.18-bf2.4 To Work
> >
> >
> > > Steve Block <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >
> > > > On Wed, Dec 01, 2004 at 04:38:19PM -0600, Leonard Chatagnier wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > On Wed, Dec 01, 2004 at 04:38:19PM -0600, Leonard Chatagnier wrote:
> > >
> > > > are not syntax issues.  I have attached the sources.list if someone
> > wants to
> > > > look.  Pleasee note that any thing above the ftp: listings were done
by
> > the
> > > > system. I put every thing else in with nano. I hope someone can help
me
> > fix
> > > > this so I can update and upgrade.
> > >
> > > Patrick Albuquerque wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > You have encrypted your /etc/apt/sources.list file?  Also, what
version
> > > > of Debian are you installing?
> > > > Patrick,
> > >
> > >  >  end of Patrick Albuquierque quote
> > >
> > > The file is plain text, just typed as binary in the attachment for
some
> > > reason.
> > >
> > >  >  end of  Steve Block quote
> > >
> > > The kernel is the same as mine in woody.
> > >
> > > (Mr.) Gayle Lee Fairless
> > >
> > >
> > >
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> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> I'm using Pine off my ISP's server so I know this message is text.
> Your mail agent apparently uunencoded the text attachment and made it
> unreadable as raw text.  You may want to paste text inline and turn off
> any HTML encoding.  I know that Netscape offers you a choice of both or
> either text or HTML.  Choose text only!  :-)
>
> My system is also dual boot into either Woody (Debian GNU/Linux)
> or Windows 98SE.  LILO gives me the choice.  I'm also running the bf2.4 or
> 2.4.18 kernel.  I plan to upgrade to Sarge when it goes stable.  I'm
> hoping that the 2.6 kernel and upgrade of Gnome and KDE will give me
> better service.  And I also hope to get DSL in my area else that upgrade
> will have to run all night or all day over my dialup connection!  I am
> also still learning my Linux.  Look in the books section of Debian.org and
> get one called a Cookbook.  It is Debian specific and gives you better
> insight into the Debian GNU/Linux system.  Of course, browsing through
> your man and info pages will help with the technical details (and lurking
> on this list will also help).
>
> Enjoy your system and Season's Greetings!
> (Mr.) Gayle Lee Fairless
>
>
>
>




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Re: Newbie Having Much Trouble Getting Deb 2.4.18-bf2.4 To Work

2004-12-03 Thread Kent West
Leonard Chatagnier wrote:
RE: Nathan Croy's suggestions:
#hostname=none
I have no hostname file in /etc, only host.conf, hosts.allow, hosts.deny and
host.canna.
 

So create an "/etc/hostname" file, and in it have your computer's hostname.
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Re: Newbie Having Much Trouble Getting Deb 2.4.18-bf2.4 To Work

2004-12-03 Thread Gayle Lee Fairless

(reply below)

On Thu, 2 Dec 2004, Leonard Chatagnier wrote:

> I didn't realize that sending the attachment raw over Outlook Express would
> cause this confusion.  I read it with notepad before sending to be sure it
> was readable.  I guess everone on the list is using linux software to send
> mail and I would have but it's not working right.  Sometimes I can receive
> and send, many times not.  I'll be using a dual boot system for a long time,
> until I know a lot more about linux.
> Len Chatagnier
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Gayle Fairless" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2004 1:54 PM
> Subject: Re: Newbie Having Much Trouble Getting Deb 2.4.18-bf2.4 To Work
> 
> 
> > Steve Block <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >
> > > On Wed, Dec 01, 2004 at 04:38:19PM -0600, Leonard Chatagnier wrote:
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Dec 01, 2004 at 04:38:19PM -0600, Leonard Chatagnier wrote:
> >
> > > are not syntax issues.  I have attached the sources.list if someone
> wants to
> > > look.  Pleasee note that any thing above the ftp: listings were done by
> the
> > > system. I put every thing else in with nano. I hope someone can help me
> fix
> > > this so I can update and upgrade.
> >
> > Patrick Albuquerque wrote:
> >
> >
> > >
> > > You have encrypted your /etc/apt/sources.list file?  Also, what version
> > > of Debian are you installing?
> > > Patrick,
> >
> >  >  end of Patrick Albuquierque quote
> >
> > The file is plain text, just typed as binary in the attachment for some
> > reason.
> >
> >  >  end of  Steve Block quote
> >
> > The kernel is the same as mine in woody.
> >
> > (Mr.) Gayle Lee Fairless
> >
> >
> >
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> 
> 
> 
I'm using Pine off my ISP's server so I know this message is text.  
Your mail agent apparently uunencoded the text attachment and made it
unreadable as raw text.  You may want to paste text inline and turn off
any HTML encoding.  I know that Netscape offers you a choice of both or
either text or HTML.  Choose text only!  :-)

My system is also dual boot into either Woody (Debian GNU/Linux)  
or Windows 98SE.  LILO gives me the choice.  I'm also running the bf2.4 or
2.4.18 kernel.  I plan to upgrade to Sarge when it goes stable.  I'm
hoping that the 2.6 kernel and upgrade of Gnome and KDE will give me
better service.  And I also hope to get DSL in my area else that upgrade 
will have to run all night or all day over my dialup connection!  I am 
also still learning my Linux.  Look in the books section of Debian.org and 
get one called a Cookbook.  It is Debian specific and gives you better 
insight into the Debian GNU/Linux system.  Of course, browsing through 
your man and info pages will help with the technical details (and lurking 
on this list will also help).

Enjoy your system and Season's Greetings!
(Mr.) Gayle Lee Fairless



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Re: Newbie Having Much Trouble Getting Deb 2.4.18-bf2.4 To Work

2004-12-03 Thread Leonard Chatagnier
RE: Nathan Croy's suggestions:
#hostname=none
I have no hostname file in /etc, only host.conf, hosts.allow, hosts.deny and
host.canna.
I set hostname to Debian.  Exited and reentered.  Presto, Debian appeared in
prompt, but it wont stay.
Sourced /etc/profile.  Returned prompt.  Sourced ~/.profile. Returned no
such file or directory exists.
Cated /etc/init.d/hostname.sh..  Debian was there.  Still no hostname file
in /etc
Opened Gnome GUI and Mozzia email client with Debian at prompt, but email
still wont send and received,  Deleted my account and reentered it. Email
still wont receive mail evenwhen I know there is mail in the account.  If I
receive mail, it is from an active account I don't use because it's all
spam.  The account setup wizard doesn't work right.  Have to change all the
defaults.  If I get mail, its from lchata not lenc user name.
Gnome login gives message saying that it cannot something with Debian and
may not work right. Adding Debian to host file may solve problem.  I have no
host file(see above list).  I added Debian to host.allow using syntax shown
in the file. Exited and reentered Gnome.  Mozilla mail still wont work. It
say it is requesting mail and that there in none.  I know that's not the
case.  I imediately rebooted into windows outlook express and downloaded
over 100 discussion group files.

Do to a misunderstanding on another discussion group, i downloaded a bunch
of networking files.  I have a 3Com card, but no network, just the pci card.
I'm about to dselect the files, but would someone comment on this. I get the
Network setup popup on boot, tried and failed to setup and now just bypass
it.  My gut feeling is that the network stuff is at the heart of my problem.
It started after downloading the net files.
Looking for further insight.  Thanks all.
Len Chatagnier




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Re: Newbie Having Much Trouble Getting Deb 2.4.18-bf2.4 To Work

2004-12-02 Thread Leonard Chatagnier
I didn't realize that sending the attachment raw over Outlook Express would
cause this confusion.  I read it with notepad before sending to be sure it
was readable.  I guess everone on the list is using linux software to send
mail and I would have but it's not working right.  Sometimes I can receive
and send, many times not.  I'll be using a dual boot system for a long time,
until I know a lot more about linux.
Len Chatagnier
- Original Message - 
From: "Gayle Fairless" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2004 1:54 PM
Subject: Re: Newbie Having Much Trouble Getting Deb 2.4.18-bf2.4 To Work


> Steve Block <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> > On Wed, Dec 01, 2004 at 04:38:19PM -0600, Leonard Chatagnier wrote:
>
>
> On Wed, Dec 01, 2004 at 04:38:19PM -0600, Leonard Chatagnier wrote:
>
> > are not syntax issues.  I have attached the sources.list if someone
wants to
> > look.  Pleasee note that any thing above the ftp: listings were done by
the
> > system. I put every thing else in with nano. I hope someone can help me
fix
> > this so I can update and upgrade.
>
> Patrick Albuquerque wrote:
>
>
> >
> > You have encrypted your /etc/apt/sources.list file?  Also, what version
> > of Debian are you installing?
> > Patrick,
>
>  >  end of Patrick Albuquierque quote
>
> The file is plain text, just typed as binary in the attachment for some
> reason.
>
>  >  end of  Steve Block quote
>
> The kernel is the same as mine in woody.
>
> (Mr.) Gayle Lee Fairless
>
>
>
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Re: Newbie Having Much Trouble Getting Deb 2.4.18-bf2.4 To Work

2004-12-02 Thread Leonard Chatagnier
Chris.
Thanks, I'll try your suggestion and report back on results.  FYI, the url's
were copied verbatum from the Debian mirror list.  If they are formatted
incorrectly, I'm not aware, and why would the Debian site misformat there
own links?.
- Original Message - 
From: "CW Harris" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2004 1:28 PM
Subject: Re: Newbie Having Much Trouble Getting Deb 2.4.18-bf2.4 To Work


> On Thu, Dec 02, 2004 at 01:51:21AM -0600, Patrick Albuquerque wrote:
> > On Wed, Dec 01, 2004 at 11:55:39PM -0600, Steve Block wrote:
> > > Patrick Albuquerque wrote:
> > > >On Wed, Dec 01, 2004 at 04:38:19PM -0600, Leonard Chatagnier wrote:
> > > >
> > > >You have encrypted your /etc/apt/sources.list file?  Also, what
version
> > > >of Debian are you installing?
> > > >
> > > >Patrick,
> > >
> > > The file is plain text, just typed as binary in the attachment for
some
> > > reason.
> > > -- 
> >
> > Strange,  I see no attachments in mutt, just see line after line like
this...
> >
> > begin 666 sources.list
> > M"B-D96(@8V1R;VTZ6T1E8FEA;B!'3E4O3&EN=7@@,RXP('(R(%]7;V]D>5\@
> > M+2!/9F9I8VEA;"!I,[EMAIL PROTECTED]($)I;F%R>2TW("@R,# S,3(P,2E=+R!U;G-T86)L
> >
> > Is my system misconfigured?  I can't see anything obvious in .muttrc
> >
> It's uuencoded and just in-line rather than mime-attached.  In the
> future he should just include the relevent portion of the file in the
> email, rather than attaching it, and especially not including it in this
> strange way. The decoded sources.list file is:
>
> #deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux 3.0 r2 _Woody_ - Official i386 Binary-7
(20031201)]/ unstable contrib main non-US/contrib non-US/main
> [skipping similar commented lines...]
>
> # deb http://security.debian.org/ stable/updates main
>
> deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux 3.0 r2 _Woody_ - Official i386 Binary-7
(20031201)]/ unstable contrib main non-US/contrib non-US/main
> deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux 3.0 r2 _Woody_ - Official i386 Binary-6
(20031201)]/ unstable contrib main non-US/contrib non-US/main
> deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux 3.0 r2 _Woody_ - Official i386 Binary-4
(20031201)]/ unstable contrib main non-US/contrib non-US/main
> deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux 3.0 r2 _Woody_ - Official i386 Binary-5
(20031201)]/ unstable contrib main non-US/contrib non-US/main
> deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux 3.0 r2 _Woody_ - Official i386 Binary-3
(20031201)]/ unstable contrib main non-US/contrib non-US/main
> deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux 3.0 r2 _Woody_ - Official i386 Binary-2
(20031201)]/ unstable contrib main non-US/contrib non-US/main
> deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux 3.0 r2 _Woody_ - Official i386 Binary-1
(20031201)]/ unstable contrib main non-US/contrib non-US/main
> deb http://security.debian.org/ stable/updates main
> deb ftp://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/
> deb ftp://ftp.uk.debian.org/debian/
> deb ftp://ftp.au.debian.org/debian/
>
> deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ stable main non-free contrib
> deb-src http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ stable main non-free contrib
> deb http://non-us.debian.org/debian-non-US stable/non-US main contrib
non-free
> deb-src http://non-us.debian.org/debian-non-US stable/non-US main contrib
non-free
>
> Now my comments:
>
> deb ftp://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/
> deb ftp://ftp.uk.debian.org/debian/
> deb ftp://ftp.au.debian.org/debian/
> ^^ these are lines 26-28 they are not properly formatted.
> These 3 lines all give you the same info, they are just located in
> different countries.  Pick one mirror close to you and stick with it.
>
> deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ stable main non-free contrib
> This line will get the US mirror of the stable distribution (I guess
> that is what you were trying to do above?)
>
> So delete lines 26-28 and I think your sources.list is fine.
>
> You might want to browse http://www.debian.org/doc/  Debian
> documentation.  There are also many other sites, newbiedoc.sourceforge.net
> is one other I have seen mentioned.  Google this list for newbie docs
> and you'll find dozens of suggestions, I'm sure.
>
> As an aside, if you are really new to Debian you might want to jump in
> with the Sarge distribution (currently testing, soon to be the new
> stable).  The current stable (Woody) is quite old.  It is still going
> through changes though, that might be intimidating to a newbie.
>
> Browse here if you want some history of Debian:
> http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/project-history/ch-intro.en.html
>
> HTH
>
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Re: Newbie Having Much Trouble Getting Deb 2.4.18-bf2.4 To Work

2004-12-02 Thread Gayle Fairless
Steve Block <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
On Wed, Dec 01, 2004 at 04:38:19PM -0600, Leonard Chatagnier wrote:

On Wed, Dec 01, 2004 at 04:38:19PM -0600, Leonard Chatagnier wrote:
are not syntax issues.  I have attached the sources.list if someone wants to
look.  Pleasee note that any thing above the ftp: listings were done by the
system. I put every thing else in with nano. I hope someone can help me fix
this so I can update and upgrade.
Patrick Albuquerque wrote:

You have encrypted your /etc/apt/sources.list file?  Also, what version
of Debian are you installing? 
Patrick,
>  end of Patrick Albuquierque quote
The file is plain text, just typed as binary in the attachment for some 
reason.

>  end of  Steve Block quote
The kernel is the same as mine in woody.
(Mr.) Gayle Lee Fairless

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Re: Newbie Having Much Trouble Getting Deb 2.4.18-bf2.4 To Work

2004-12-02 Thread CW Harris
On Thu, Dec 02, 2004 at 01:51:21AM -0600, Patrick Albuquerque wrote:
> On Wed, Dec 01, 2004 at 11:55:39PM -0600, Steve Block wrote:
> > Patrick Albuquerque wrote:
> > >On Wed, Dec 01, 2004 at 04:38:19PM -0600, Leonard Chatagnier wrote:
> > >
> > >You have encrypted your /etc/apt/sources.list file?  Also, what version
> > >of Debian are you installing?  
> > >
> > >Patrick,
> > 
> > The file is plain text, just typed as binary in the attachment for some 
> > reason.
> > -- 
> 
> Strange,  I see no attachments in mutt, just see line after line like this...
> 
> begin 666 sources.list
> M"B-D96(@8V1R;VTZ6T1E8FEA;B!'3E4O3&EN=7@@,RXP('(R(%]7;V]D>5\@
> M+2!/9F9I8VEA;"!I,[EMAIL PROTECTED]($)I;F%R>2TW("@R,# S,3(P,2E=+R!U;G-T86)L
> 
> Is my system misconfigured?  I can't see anything obvious in .muttrc
> 
It's uuencoded and just in-line rather than mime-attached.  In the
future he should just include the relevent portion of the file in the
email, rather than attaching it, and especially not including it in this
strange way. The decoded sources.list file is:

#deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux 3.0 r2 _Woody_ - Official i386 Binary-7 
(20031201)]/ unstable contrib main non-US/contrib non-US/main
[skipping similar commented lines...]

# deb http://security.debian.org/ stable/updates main

deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux 3.0 r2 _Woody_ - Official i386 Binary-7 
(20031201)]/ unstable contrib main non-US/contrib non-US/main
deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux 3.0 r2 _Woody_ - Official i386 Binary-6 
(20031201)]/ unstable contrib main non-US/contrib non-US/main
deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux 3.0 r2 _Woody_ - Official i386 Binary-4 
(20031201)]/ unstable contrib main non-US/contrib non-US/main
deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux 3.0 r2 _Woody_ - Official i386 Binary-5 
(20031201)]/ unstable contrib main non-US/contrib non-US/main
deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux 3.0 r2 _Woody_ - Official i386 Binary-3 
(20031201)]/ unstable contrib main non-US/contrib non-US/main
deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux 3.0 r2 _Woody_ - Official i386 Binary-2 
(20031201)]/ unstable contrib main non-US/contrib non-US/main
deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux 3.0 r2 _Woody_ - Official i386 Binary-1 
(20031201)]/ unstable contrib main non-US/contrib non-US/main
deb http://security.debian.org/ stable/updates main
deb ftp://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ 
deb ftp://ftp.uk.debian.org/debian/
deb ftp://ftp.au.debian.org/debian/

deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ stable main non-free contrib
deb-src http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ stable main non-free contrib
deb http://non-us.debian.org/debian-non-US stable/non-US main contrib non-free
deb-src http://non-us.debian.org/debian-non-US stable/non-US main contrib 
non-free

Now my comments:

deb ftp://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ 
deb ftp://ftp.uk.debian.org/debian/
deb ftp://ftp.au.debian.org/debian/
^^ these are lines 26-28 they are not properly formatted.
These 3 lines all give you the same info, they are just located in
different countries.  Pick one mirror close to you and stick with it.

deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ stable main non-free contrib
This line will get the US mirror of the stable distribution (I guess
that is what you were trying to do above?)

So delete lines 26-28 and I think your sources.list is fine.

You might want to browse http://www.debian.org/doc/  Debian
documentation.  There are also many other sites, newbiedoc.sourceforge.net
is one other I have seen mentioned.  Google this list for newbie docs
and you'll find dozens of suggestions, I'm sure.

As an aside, if you are really new to Debian you might want to jump in
with the Sarge distribution (currently testing, soon to be the new
stable).  The current stable (Woody) is quite old.  It is still going
through changes though, that might be intimidating to a newbie.

Browse here if you want some history of Debian:
http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/project-history/ch-intro.en.html

HTH

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Re: Newbie Having Much Trouble Getting Deb 2.4.18-bf2.4 To Work

2004-12-02 Thread Sam Watkins
> The file is plain text, just typed as binary in the attachment for some 

Patrick Albuquerque wrote:
> 
> Strange,  I see no attachments in mutt, just see line after line like this...
> 
> begin 666 sources.list
> M"B-D96(@8V1R;VTZ6T1E8FEA;B!'3E4O3&EN=7@@,RXP('(R(%]7;V]D>5\@
> M+2!/9F9I8VEA;"!I,[EMAIL PROTECTED]($)I;F%R>2TW("@R,# S,3(P,2E=+R!U;G-T86)L

> Is my system misconfigured?  I can't see anything obvious in .muttrc

Does the following answer your question?

> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1409
>   

Sam


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Re: Newbie Having Much Trouble Getting Deb 2.4.18-bf2.4 To Work

2004-12-01 Thread Patrick Albuquerque
On Wed, Dec 01, 2004 at 11:55:39PM -0600, Steve Block wrote:
> Patrick Albuquerque wrote:
> >On Wed, Dec 01, 2004 at 04:38:19PM -0600, Leonard Chatagnier wrote:
> >
> >You have encrypted your /etc/apt/sources.list file?  Also, what version
> >of Debian are you installing?  
> >
> >Patrick,
> 
> The file is plain text, just typed as binary in the attachment for some 
> reason.
> -- 

Strange,  I see no attachments in mutt, just see line after line like this...

begin 666 sources.list  
 
M"B-D96(@8V1R;VTZ6T1E8FEA;B!'3E4O3&EN=7@@,RXP('(R(%]7;V]D>5\@   
 
M+2!/9F9I8VEA;"!I,[EMAIL PROTECTED]($)I;F%R>2TW("@R,# S,3(P,2E=+R!U;G-T86)L 
   

Is my system misconfigured?  I can't see anything obvious in .muttrc

Thanks,
Patrick.
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Re: Newbie Having Much Trouble Getting Deb 2.4.18-bf2.4 To Work

2004-12-01 Thread Steve Block
Patrick Albuquerque wrote:
On Wed, Dec 01, 2004 at 04:38:19PM -0600, Leonard Chatagnier wrote:
You have encrypted your /etc/apt/sources.list file?  Also, what version
of Debian are you installing?  

Patrick,
The file is plain text, just typed as binary in the attachment for some 
reason.
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Re: Newbie Having Much Trouble Getting Deb 2.4.18-bf2.4 To Work

2004-12-01 Thread Patrick Albuquerque
On Wed, Dec 01, 2004 at 04:38:19PM -0600, Leonard Chatagnier wrote:
> are not syntax issues.  I have attached the sources.list if someone wants to
> look.  Pleasee note that any thing above the ftp: listings were done by the
> system. I put every thing else in with nano. I hope someone can help me fix
> this so I can update and upgrade.
> 

You have encrypted your /etc/apt/sources.list file?  Also, what version
of Debian are you installing?  

Patrick,
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RE: Newbie Having Much Trouble Getting Deb 2.4.18-bf2.4 To Work

2004-12-01 Thread Croy, Nathan

> From: Leonard Chatagnier [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2004 4:35 PM
> 
> Since the last couple of reinstalls, the first was with a bunch of Net
> programs installed for first time, I lost my Debian host 
> name, now it's
> (none) and I think its affecting most all of the software, 
> especially the
> Mozilla Email client.  I tried using `hostname` to put Debian 
> back in the
> prompt with no error messages but (none) stays for the domain 
> name on the
> terminal prompt.
> Can anyone tell me how to fix this so I can use my email 
> program.

`hostname` by itself will tell you what the machine thinks its name is.
`hostname puter` chanages the hostname to puter, but this will not change
the prompt immediately.  First you must log out and back in to see a
change there. (alternatively, you could source /etc/profile or ~/.profile
since this is where PS1 is typically set).

However, this will not make the change permanent as the hostname is reset
on each reboot by the /etc/init.d/hostname.sh script.  (/etc/init.d holds
all the startup/shutdown scripts linked to from the appropriate runlevel
directory (/etc/rc.*) (see init & /etc/inittab for more on runlevels)).
The /etc/init.d/hostname.sh sript reads /etc/hostname to set the hostname.

So, to come to the point of an incredibly long winded response, make sure
the file /etc/hostname contains the hostname you want.

I hope someone else can help with your other questions.


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