Re: Potato->Woody HOWTO?

2001-09-20 Thread Colin Watson
On Thu, Sep 20, 2001 at 11:00:02AM -0400, Walter Tautz wrote:
> I would suggest woody since when woody becomes stable testing will
> point to something you probably wouldn't want it too. i.e. testing
> would once again consist a small number of packages so that the
> next stable release after woody can be 'tested'. At least this is my
> perception.

I doubt it will contain a small number of packages. Anthony hasn't said
anything about it straight out, but I'd imagine that the new testing
will start out from woody and be gradually upgraded as normal. That's
how the current testing was bootstrapped; it only lost packages
sometimes because of the odd bug in the testing scripts.

-- 
Colin Watson  [EMAIL PROTECTED]



Re: Potato->Woody HOWTO?

2001-09-20 Thread Dave Sherohman
On Thu, Sep 20, 2001 at 03:57:02PM +0100, Yago Alvarado wrote:
> > I chose not to upgrade XFree. One problem at a time.
> 
> Can you do that?
> I mean... can you unselect the packages you don't want to install? :-?

No.  The reason you can choose to leave X behind is that the
packaging has changed.  X 3.3.x uses a flock of xserver-
packages, while X 4.0.x has a single xserver-xfree86 package which
handles all video cards.

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RE: Potato->Woody HOWTO?

2001-09-20 Thread Bob Koss
>
> > I chose not to upgrade XFree. One problem at a time.
>
> Can you do that?
> I mean... can you unselect the packages you don't want to install? :-?
>

The installation / configuration tool asks you questions. I opted to leave
anything to do with X the way it was.




RE: Potato->Woody HOWTO?

2001-09-20 Thread Walter Tautz


On Thu, 20 Sep 2001, Bob Koss wrote:

> >
> >I've just subscribed to the list a few days ago and I'm seeing
> > many messages about people migrating from the Stable to the
> > Testing version
> > of Debian which makes me think that it's not such a painful
> > process as I had
> > thought.
> >
> >Is there a HOWTO or something (perhaps in the archives?)
> > explaining how to do it? (passing from the stable version to the testing
> > version)
> >
> >Can anyone enlighten me?
> 
> Welcome.
> 
> I just did this yesterday. It was so simple, even *I* couldn't screw it up.
> 
> In /etc/apt/sources.list, change all occurrences of 'potato' to either
> 'testing' or 'woody'. The difference is subtle. See Colin's message that he
> posted a few minutes ago for the distinction.
> 
> Then, do 'apt-get update', followed by 'apt-get dist-upgrade'.
> 
I would suggest woody since when woody becomes stable testing will point
to something you probably wouldn't want it too. i.e. testing would once
again consist a small number of packages so that the next stable release
after woody can be 'tested'. At least this is my perception.


-walter 

ps. Older video cards don't seem to be backported to the newer XFree86
but I imagine one can install one of the older X3.3.6 servers...
As for newer cards it was a distinct pleasure to note that the latest X11
apt update resulted in my new rage128 card working!




RE: Potato->Woody HOWTO?

2001-09-20 Thread Yago Alvarado

> I just did this yesterday. It was so simple, even *I* 
> couldn't screw it up.

Thanks for the help. :-)

> I chose not to upgrade XFree. One problem at a time.

Can you do that?
I mean... can you unselect the packages you don't want to install? :-?


Regards,
Yago



RE: Potato->Woody HOWTO?

2001-09-20 Thread Yago Alvarado

> No need for a howto:
> 
>  1) Edit /etc/apt/sources.list and add these lines so you can see the
> testing packages:
[ ...]
> If the "apt-get dist-upgrade" stops due to an error, just run 
> it again.

Thanks a lot. 

That's what I call clear instructions. :-)


Regards,
Yago



Re: Potato->Woody HOWTO?

2001-09-20 Thread Bud Rogers
On Thursday 20 September 2001 09:05 am, Yago Alvarado wrote:
> Hi!
>
>I've just subscribed to the list a few days ago and I'm seeing
> many messages about people migrating from the Stable to the Testing version
> of Debian which makes me think that it's not such a painful process as I
> had thought.
>
>Is there a HOWTO or something (perhaps in the archives?)
> explaining how to do it? (passing from the stable version to the testing
> version)

It's really very simple.  

Edit /etc/apt/sources.list 
s/stable/testing/ all lines in the file.
comment out the debian-security lines.

Run apt-get update.
Run apt-get dist-upgrade.

Pay close attention to any errors that appear during the dist-upgrade 
process.  You may need to run it more than once before it gets all the 
dependencies sorted out.  Be prepared for a Very Large Download.  I am in the 
process of upgrading a potato box at work.  It wanted to download a bit less 
than 300 MB.  I aborted the dist-upgrade and set up a cron job to download 
the files last night.  Hopefully they will be there when I get to work 
tomorrow.

I upgraded this box from stable to testing and then from testing to unstable 
using that process. I currently track unstable with an update/upgrade process 
running from cron every night.  So far I have had very few surprises.

-- 
Bud Rogers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
They have awakened a sleeping giant and filled him with a terrible resolve.



RE: Potato->Woody HOWTO?

2001-09-20 Thread Bob Koss
>
>I've just subscribed to the list a few days ago and I'm seeing
> many messages about people migrating from the Stable to the
> Testing version
> of Debian which makes me think that it's not such a painful
> process as I had
> thought.
>
>Is there a HOWTO or something (perhaps in the archives?)
> explaining how to do it? (passing from the stable version to the testing
> version)
>
>Can anyone enlighten me?

Welcome.

I just did this yesterday. It was so simple, even *I* couldn't screw it up.

In /etc/apt/sources.list, change all occurrences of 'potato' to either
'testing' or 'woody'. The difference is subtle. See Colin's message that he
posted a few minutes ago for the distinction.

Then, do 'apt-get update', followed by 'apt-get dist-upgrade'.

Done.

I chose not to upgrade XFree. One problem at a time.