Re: Resize partitions urgent help

2004-08-04 Thread Tom Pfeifer
Carl Fink wrote:
> 
> On Tue, Aug 03, 2004 at 11:34:29PM +0300, David Baron wrote:
> > When I put in a second disk in my Windows box and could not get fdisk to work,
> > I shelled out the money for ParitionMagic. Does the job--reparitioning is
> > scarey, especially when there is already data on the disk.
> 
> I used BOOT-IT, which is much cheaper and worked perfectly.  You need a
> Windows system (not necessarily the one being partitioned) to use it, at
> least the downloaded version -- it's a Windows program that creates a boot
> diskette or CD-ROM.  I haven't tried it under WINE.
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If you meant BootIt NG (BING), you don't actually need DOS or Windows to
make the diskette. You can create the floppy disk by just copying the
raw image (DISKIMG3.DAT) included in the downloaded zip file with a
command such as 'cp DISKIMG3.DAT /dev/fd0'

And making a bootable CD is just a matter of using that same file as the
boot image while creating the ISO file with 'mkisofs', or of course you
can also do that from xcdroast etc.

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Re: Resize partitions urgent help

2004-08-03 Thread Carl Fink
On Tue, Aug 03, 2004 at 11:34:29PM +0300, David Baron wrote:
> When I put in a second disk in my Windows box and could not get fdisk to work, 
> I shelled out the money for ParitionMagic. Does the job--reparitioning is 
> scarey, especially when there is already data on the disk.

I used BOOT-IT, which is much cheaper and worked perfectly.  You need a
Windows system (not necessarily the one being partitioned) to use it, at
least the downloaded version -- it's a Windows program that creates a boot
diskette or CD-ROM.  I haven't tried it under WINE.
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RE: Resize partitions urgent help

2004-08-03 Thread Preston Boyington
David Baron wrote:

> When I bought a big disk, I put in several Windows paritions and a
> Linux one. No sweat, installed Knoppix and onwards. If I get around
> to dividing Linux things up, I will probably use it again.

I have moved to using QTParted.  It's on the Knoppix cdrom and works very well.  Just 
open a terminal, type "su" and then "qtparted" (no quotes of course).

I like using a LiveCD to repartition my drives, rather than a program that is 
installed on a drive.  It always seemed like trouble waiting to happen when I used a 
program to partition the disk it was running on.



Re: Resize partitions urgent help

2004-08-03 Thread David Baron
When I put in a second disk in my Windows box and could not get fdisk to work, 
I shelled out the money for ParitionMagic. Does the job--reparitioning is 
scarey, especially when there is already data on the disk.

The program runs under Windows but will reboot to DOS if data must be moved 
(pray nothing goes awry during this stage!), then reboots to Windows. Will do 
everything under GUI if no data needs be moved.

When I bought a big disk, I put in several Windows paritions and a Linux one. 
No sweat, installed Knoppix and onwards. If I get around to dividing Linux 
things up, I will probably use it again.


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Re: Resize partitions urgent help

2004-08-03 Thread Alan Chandler
On Tuesday 03 August 2004 16:45, Vijaya S wrote:
> thanks a lot ,
> But my main problem is i havent used parted anytime
> And moreover /debian is important i will take a backup of it how do i use
> parted to do that?
> Regards,
> Vijaya

Parted is very simple to use, and can tell you its commands with the help 
command.  It can copy partitions, but /debian is 19G so where are you going 
to back it up to?  If you can do that, the you could easily grow things.

The best thing to do is load the stand alone version of the gnu web site, 
which should be here

http://www.gnu.org/software/parted/parted.html

although it s timing out at the moment so I can check

You must not be accessing the filesystems with anything else whilst it is 
working.  I think you can shrink your /dev/hda8 partition and then grow 
the /dev/hda7 parttion with the RESIZE command.  Check the man page for what 
filesystems it will do this with.

In future take a look at LVM.  This allows much easier growing, shrinking and 
even extending over multiple devices a partition.  As hinted at by others in 
this thread reiserfs is a good filesystem to use.  I like to use reiserfs 
because it allows you to grow filesystems (assuming you have already made the 
partition bigger - with lvm that is a simple lvextend command) without 
dismounting it.  You can shrink them too - but only when dismounted.




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Re: Resize partitions urgent help

2004-08-03 Thread Didar Hussain
On Tue, Aug 03, 2004 at 03:45:01PM +, Vijaya S wrote:
> thanks a lot ,
> But my main problem is i havent used parted anytime
> And moreover /debian is important i will take a backup of it how do i use parted
> to do that?

Try nParted, "apt-cache show nparted" says:

  nParted is a newt-based front end to the GNU parted library that
  permits the user to resize, copy, and move disk partitions in the
  style of PowerQuest's well-known Partition Magic partition table editor.

I hope this helps

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Re: Resize partitions urgent help

2004-08-03 Thread Edvard Majakari
John Summerfield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

>>You might want to check package 'convertfs' and turn your filesystem(s)
>>to
>>reiserfs. I did exactly that - on live fs - and didn't have any problems
>>whatsoever.  YMMV, though.
>
> Why whould Vijaya want to do that?

Oh, sorry - I forgot to share the most important details - size of mounted
reiserfs partitions can be readjusted on the fly (using resize_reiserfs
-f) whereas using ext2 unmounting is a must (I think).

Of course, the OP might want to stick with ext3 due to several
reasons. Besides, I don't know how bug-free converts is, but I've used it
twice to convert a live filesystem from ext3 to reiserfs, and didn't have
problems. 

Sorry for the missing crucial details on the previous post :)

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Re: Resize partitions urgent help

2004-08-03 Thread Vijaya S
No i do not want to change the filesystem :)

John Summerfield wrote:

> Edvard Majakari wrote:
>
> >Vijaya S <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> >
> >
> >
> >>Hi all,
> >>I have a server with the following structure.
> >>
> >># df -hT
> >>FilesystemTypeSize  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
> >>/dev/hda2  unknown8.3G  399M  7.5G   5% /
> >>tmpfstmpfs252M 0  252M   0% /dev/shm
> >>/dev/hda3 ext3 19G  1.8G   16G  11% /usr
> >>/dev/hda5 ext39.2G  1.9G  6.9G  22% /var
> >>/dev/hda6 ext3 12G  1.4G  9.1G  13% /home
> >>/dev/hda7 ext3 19G   19G 0 100% /debian
> >>/dev/hda8 ext36.9G   33M  6.6G   1% /work
> >>
> >>The /dev/hda7 has been utilized 100% so i would like to increase  it to
> >>22GB and /work to 2.6GB
> >>Is it possible? If so how do i do it without data loss or
> >>undestructively?
> >>
> >>
> >
> >You might want to check package 'convertfs' and turn your filesystem(s) to
> >reiserfs. I did exactly that - on live fs - and didn't have any problems
> >whatsoever.  YMMV, though.
> >
> >
>
> Why whould Vijaya want to do that?
>
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Re: Resize partitions urgent help

2004-08-03 Thread Patrick Beard
> The /dev/hda7 has been utilized 100% so i would like to increase  it to
> 22GB and /work to 2.6GB
> Is it possible? If so how do i do it without data loss or
> undestructively?

If you don't mind spending a bit of cash, have a look at 'Partition
Commander'
I got it fairly cheap on Amazon. Can move and resize ext3 non destructively.
You will need the packaged version as this contains a bootable CD. I used it
on my Debian, worked well.

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Re: Resize partitions urgent help

2004-08-03 Thread John Summerfield
Edvard Majakari wrote:
Vijaya S <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
 

Hi all,
I have a server with the following structure.
# df -hT
FilesystemTypeSize  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
/dev/hda2  unknown8.3G  399M  7.5G   5% /
tmpfstmpfs252M 0  252M   0% /dev/shm
/dev/hda3 ext3 19G  1.8G   16G  11% /usr
/dev/hda5 ext39.2G  1.9G  6.9G  22% /var
/dev/hda6 ext3 12G  1.4G  9.1G  13% /home
/dev/hda7 ext3 19G   19G 0 100% /debian
/dev/hda8 ext36.9G   33M  6.6G   1% /work
The /dev/hda7 has been utilized 100% so i would like to increase  it to
22GB and /work to 2.6GB
Is it possible? If so how do i do it without data loss or
undestructively?
   

You might want to check package 'convertfs' and turn your filesystem(s) to
reiserfs. I did exactly that - on live fs - and didn't have any problems
whatsoever.  YMMV, though.
 

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Re: Resize partitions urgent help

2004-08-03 Thread Edvard Majakari
Vijaya S <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Hi all,
> I have a server with the following structure.
>
> # df -hT
> FilesystemTypeSize  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
> /dev/hda2  unknown8.3G  399M  7.5G   5% /
> tmpfstmpfs252M 0  252M   0% /dev/shm
> /dev/hda3 ext3 19G  1.8G   16G  11% /usr
> /dev/hda5 ext39.2G  1.9G  6.9G  22% /var
> /dev/hda6 ext3 12G  1.4G  9.1G  13% /home
> /dev/hda7 ext3 19G   19G 0 100% /debian
> /dev/hda8 ext36.9G   33M  6.6G   1% /work
>
> The /dev/hda7 has been utilized 100% so i would like to increase  it to
> 22GB and /work to 2.6GB
> Is it possible? If so how do i do it without data loss or
> undestructively?

You might want to check package 'convertfs' and turn your filesystem(s) to
reiserfs. I did exactly that - on live fs - and didn't have any problems
whatsoever.  YMMV, though.

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Re: Resize partitions urgent help

2004-08-03 Thread Vijaya S
thanks a lot ,
But my main problem is i havent used parted anytime
And moreover /debian is important i will take a backup of it how do i use parted
to do that?
Regards,
Vijaya
Didar Hussain wrote:

> On Tue, Aug 03, 2004 at 11:44:48AM +, Vijaya S wrote:
> > Vijaya S wrote:
> >
> > > Hi all,
> > > I have a server with the following structure.
> > >
> > > # df -hT
> > > FilesystemTypeSize  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
> > > /dev/hda2  unknown8.3G  399M  7.5G   5% /
> > > tmpfstmpfs252M 0  252M   0% /dev/shm
> > > /dev/hda3 ext3 19G  1.8G   16G  11% /usr
> > > /dev/hda5 ext39.2G  1.9G  6.9G  22% /var
> > > /dev/hda6 ext3 12G  1.4G  9.1G  13% /home
> > > /dev/hda7 ext3 19G   19G 0 100% /debian
> > > /dev/hda8 ext36.9G   33M  6.6G   1% /work
> > >
> > > The /dev/hda7 has been utilized 100% so i would like to increase  it to
> > > 22GB and /work to 2.6GB
> > > Is it possible? If so how do i do it without data loss or
> > > undestructively?
> >
>
> 1) Copy /work to either /var, /home or /usr with "cp -r"
> mkdir /home/workback
> cp -vr /work/* /home/workback
>
>
> 2) Delete partition /dev/hda8 (YES!)
>
>
> 3) Use `parted' to increase the size of /dev/hda7
>
> 4) Recreate /dev/hda8 from the available disk space
>
> 5) Mount /dev/hda8 to /work and copy back the /workback
>
> HTH,
>
> Didar
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Re: Resize partitions urgent help

2004-08-03 Thread Didar Hussain
On Tue, Aug 03, 2004 at 11:44:48AM +, Vijaya S wrote:
> Vijaya S wrote:
> 
> > Hi all,
> > I have a server with the following structure.
> >
> > # df -hT
> > FilesystemTypeSize  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
> > /dev/hda2  unknown8.3G  399M  7.5G   5% /
> > tmpfstmpfs252M 0  252M   0% /dev/shm
> > /dev/hda3 ext3 19G  1.8G   16G  11% /usr
> > /dev/hda5 ext39.2G  1.9G  6.9G  22% /var
> > /dev/hda6 ext3 12G  1.4G  9.1G  13% /home
> > /dev/hda7 ext3 19G   19G 0 100% /debian
> > /dev/hda8 ext36.9G   33M  6.6G   1% /work
> >
> > The /dev/hda7 has been utilized 100% so i would like to increase  it to
> > 22GB and /work to 2.6GB
> > Is it possible? If so how do i do it without data loss or
> > undestructively?
> 

1) Copy /work to either /var, /home or /usr with "cp -r"
mkdir /home/workback
cp -vr /work/* /home/workback



2) Delete partition /dev/hda8 (YES!)


3) Use `parted' to increase the size of /dev/hda7


4) Recreate /dev/hda8 from the available disk space


5) Mount /dev/hda8 to /work and copy back the /workback 


HTH,

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Re: Resize partitions urgent help

2004-08-03 Thread John Summerfield
Magnus Therning wrote:
I don't know if parted (package: parted) would suffice in this
situation. I've used it and never had any problems with it.
 

Not if, as it seems, there's data in adjoining partitions.
/M
On Tue, Aug 03, 2004 at 11:44:48AM +, Vijaya S wrote:
 

Vijaya S wrote:
   

Hi all,
I have a server with the following structure.
# df -hT
FilesystemTypeSize  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
/dev/hda2  unknown8.3G  399M  7.5G   5% /
tmpfstmpfs252M 0  252M   0% /dev/shm
/dev/hda3 ext3 19G  1.8G   16G  11% /usr
/dev/hda5 ext39.2G  1.9G  6.9G  22% /var
/dev/hda6 ext3 12G  1.4G  9.1G  13% /home
/dev/hda7 ext3 19G   19G 0 100% /debian
/dev/hda8 ext36.9G   33M  6.6G   1% /work
The /dev/hda7 has been utilized 100% so i would like to increase  it to
22GB and /work to 2.6GB
Is it possible? If so how do i do it without data loss or
undestructively?
 

Its a debian machine
   

Regards,
Vijaya
 

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Re: Resize partitions urgent help

2004-08-03 Thread John Summerfield
Pls don't crosspost to different lists, esp debian/non-debian. I don't 
like getting bounce messages because I'm not subscribed to them, and I 
usually don't reply.

Vijaya S wrote:
Vijaya S wrote:
 

Hi all,
I have a server with the following structure.
# df -hT
FilesystemTypeSize  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
/dev/hda2  unknown8.3G  399M  7.5G   5% /
tmpfstmpfs252M 0  252M   0% /dev/shm
/dev/hda3 ext3 19G  1.8G   16G  11% /usr
/dev/hda5 ext39.2G  1.9G  6.9G  22% /var
/dev/hda6 ext3 12G  1.4G  9.1G  13% /home
/dev/hda7 ext3 19G   19G 0 100% /debian
/dev/hda8 ext36.9G   33M  6.6G   1% /work
The /dev/hda7 has been utilized 100% so i would like to increase  it to
22GB and /work to 2.6GB
Is it possible? If so how do i do it without data loss or
undestructively?
   

Its a debian machine
 

We hope si:-)
Plan a.
Back, repartition, restore/. This the most satisfactory without spending 
money.
Plan b.
New hard drive. Move data over, Mount it in /debian. This is best for 
the long term.
Plan c
Move the all of contents of  a major subdirectory of /debian to 
somewhere else, and symlink to it.

If you do buy a new hard drive, consider making it your primary drive 
and putting all your OS on it & keeping the old one for the debian 
stuff. Likely, the new drive will be faster than the old, especially if 
you get one of the better ones.


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Re: Resize partitions urgent help

2004-08-03 Thread Magnus Therning
I don't know if parted (package: parted) would suffice in this
situation. I've used it and never had any problems with it.

/M

On Tue, Aug 03, 2004 at 11:44:48AM +, Vijaya S wrote:
>Vijaya S wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>> I have a server with the following structure.
>>
>> # df -hT
>> FilesystemTypeSize  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
>> /dev/hda2  unknown8.3G  399M  7.5G   5% /
>> tmpfstmpfs252M 0  252M   0% /dev/shm
>> /dev/hda3 ext3 19G  1.8G   16G  11% /usr
>> /dev/hda5 ext39.2G  1.9G  6.9G  22% /var
>> /dev/hda6 ext3 12G  1.4G  9.1G  13% /home
>> /dev/hda7 ext3 19G   19G 0 100% /debian
>> /dev/hda8 ext36.9G   33M  6.6G   1% /work
>>
>> The /dev/hda7 has been utilized 100% so i would like to increase  it to
>> 22GB and /work to 2.6GB
>> Is it possible? If so how do i do it without data loss or
>> undestructively?
>
>Its a debian machine
>
>>
>>
>> Regards,
>> Vijaya
>
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Re: Resize partitions urgent help

2004-08-02 Thread Vijaya S
Vijaya S wrote:

> Hi all,
> I have a server with the following structure.
>
> # df -hT
> FilesystemTypeSize  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
> /dev/hda2  unknown8.3G  399M  7.5G   5% /
> tmpfstmpfs252M 0  252M   0% /dev/shm
> /dev/hda3 ext3 19G  1.8G   16G  11% /usr
> /dev/hda5 ext39.2G  1.9G  6.9G  22% /var
> /dev/hda6 ext3 12G  1.4G  9.1G  13% /home
> /dev/hda7 ext3 19G   19G 0 100% /debian
> /dev/hda8 ext36.9G   33M  6.6G   1% /work
>
> The /dev/hda7 has been utilized 100% so i would like to increase  it to
> 22GB and /work to 2.6GB
> Is it possible? If so how do i do it without data loss or
> undestructively?

Its a debian machine

>
>
> Regards,
> Vijaya


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