Re: What is the minimum RAM needed for 2.4?
On Tue, Mar 09, 2004 at 08:19:41AM -0600, Preston Boyington wrote: | I haven't seen a minimum, but I was wondering since there are a | couple of 133's here with 32meg of ram that I want to update. I used to have a machine with 8MB RAM running with a 2.4 kernel. It thrashed a lot (well, -anything- thrashes with only 8MB RAM) but worked. Now that machine has 48MB RAM and a 2.6 kernel. | Also, are any "gotchas" I need to be aware of with this kernel | migration? Current Googling only speaks of adding a line in | /etc/lilo.conf to say "initrd=/initrd.img" (sans quotes) but I am | still looking. You might need to load some modules or some details of some module may have changed. When I did the 2.2->2.4 upgrade I discovered I had to load the 'ide-cd' module or the cd drive was not usable. (it wasn't a separate module with the 2.2 packages) | Worst case I want to be able to boot the old kernel if I fudge up | the 2.4 install. This is always a good practice. Don't remove the old until you are satisfied with the new. HTH, -D -- A mouse is a device used to point at the xterm you want to type in. --Kim Alm, a.s.r www: http://dman13.dyndns.org/~dman/jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: What is the minimum RAM needed for 2.4?
On Tue, 09 Mar 2004 14:23:40 CST, Kirk Strauser writes: >At 2004-03-09T14:33:56Z, Robert Waldner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> 32 MB are plenty for Debian itself. I'm running Woody on an i386SX 16 MHz >> with 4 MB RAM without problems (installing was another matter, as the >> installer needs more RAM). >How?!? I was attempting to run a hand-stripped Woody system on a 486/66 >with 12MB of RAM and it took ages just to log in to a shell prompt. When I >was stripped, I mean that when I was in multi-user and looking at a bash >prompt, there were 12 entries in the process table. How do you manage with >4MB? It's doing duties as masquerading firewall, so since finishing setting it up, I only log in when security-upgrades are due. It's nowhere near fast, granted, a login via ssh2 takes 5 minutes or so, it swaps itself nearly to death when doing upgrades, but otherwise it works just fine. cheers, &rw -- / Ing. Robert Waldner | Security Engineer | CoreTec IT-Security \ \ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> | T +43 1 503 72 73 | F +43 1 503 72 73 x99 / pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: What is the minimum RAM needed for 2.4?
At 2004-03-09T14:33:56Z, Robert Waldner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > 32 MB are plenty for Debian itself. I'm running Woody on an i386SX 16 MHz > with 4 MB RAM without problems (installing was another matter, as the > installer needs more RAM). How?!? I was attempting to run a hand-stripped Woody system on a 486/66 with 12MB of RAM and it took ages just to log in to a shell prompt. When I was stripped, I mean that when I was in multi-user and looking at a bash prompt, there were 12 entries in the process table. How do you manage with 4MB? -- Kirk Strauser In Googlis non est, ergo non est. pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
RE: What is the minimum RAM needed for 2.4?
> > Seems the 2.4.18-1.586tsc or maybe 2.4.18-1.686 packages are what you > need (if you use Woody). > how up to date are the patches in the kernel from debian.org? i've never patched a kernel, so it will be something new/fun to do. i am planning on compiling a kernel next, wish me luck. Preston -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: What is the minimum RAM needed for 2.4?
Hello Preston Boyington (<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) wrote: > I haven't seen a minimum, but I was wondering since there are a couple > of 133's here with 32meg of ram that I want to update. They are > currently running kernel 2.2.20 which I want to upgrade to whatever is > the latest kernel-image available (adding a wireless card to one and > it was suggested I upgrade the kernel). Seems the 2.4.18-1.586tsc or maybe 2.4.18-1.686 packages are what you need (if you use Woody). > Also, are any "gotchas" I need to be aware of with this kernel > migration? Current Googling only speaks of adding a line in > /etc/lilo.conf to say "initrd=/initrd.img" (sans quotes) but I am > still looking. If you install the new kernel with apt or dpkg, you only have to tell lilo to use the initrd and run lilo. However, it is possible that - depending on which 2.2.20 kernel you used - some of the drivers you need were compiled into the old kernel, but are compiled as modules for the new kernel. In that case make sure you load the drivers you need (e.g. for network cards). > Worst case I want to be able to boot the old kernel if I fudge up the > 2.4 install. In the stdnadrd configuration the old kernel will not be removed, and you can choose which kernel to use at the lilo prompt. Maybe you have to press shift+tab to make lilo ask you. best regards Andreas Janssen -- Andreas Janssen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> PGP-Key-ID: 0xDC801674 Registered Linux User #267976 http://www.andreas-janssen.de/debian-tipps.html -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: What is the minimum RAM needed for 2.4?
On Tue, 09 Mar 2004 08:19:41 CST, "Preston Boyington" writes: >I haven't seen a minimum, but I was wondering since there are a couple >of 133's here with 32meg of ram that I want to update. They are >currently running kernel 2.2.20 which I want to upgrade to whatever is >the latest kernel-image available (adding a wireless card to one and it >was suggested I upgrade the kernel). 32 MB are plenty for Debian itself. I'm running Woody on an i386SX 16 MHz with 4 MB RAM without problems (installing was another matter, as the installer needs more RAM). >Also, are any "gotchas" I need to be aware of with this kernel >migration? Current Googling only speaks of adding a line in >/etc/lilo.conf to say "initrd=/initrd.img" (sans quotes) but I am >still looking. The 2.4 kernel-images use initrd (initial RAM-disk), which means that you'll have to make the proper entry in lilo.conf. But the upgrade process will remind you of that anyway ;) image=/vmlinuz label=Debian initrd=/initrd.img read-only is what it'll look like. >Worst case I want to be able to boot the old kernel if I fudge up the >2.4 install. Just run `mkboot` prior to upgrading, then you can always boot from floppy in case something breaks. cheers, &rw -- / Ing. Robert Waldner | Security Engineer | CoreTec IT-Security \ \ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> | T +43 1 503 72 73 | F +43 1 503 72 73 x99 / pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
