RE: X Help
I'd like to report that the problem is resolved and thank all those who replied directly to me and to the group. The problem was gpm, and the solution was "apt-get remove gpm". I'm currently playing with window managers to see which one I prefer. Mike -Original Message- From: Eric G. Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 15, 2002 10:21 PM To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: X Help On Fri, Feb 15, 2002 at 04:39:44PM -0500, Mike wrote: > I'm part way there already. I tried the command "dpkg-reconfigure > xserver-xfree86" from another message that just came in. I changed a > setting for framebuffer ( or something like that) to off. Now I get a > desktop, but there are two issues: > > 1) The mouse is VERRY jumpy, to the point of being impossible to use. Probably wrong mouse protocol. People also report problems with gpm (console mouse driver), but I've never had that problem. Have seen the jumpy mouse when the wrong (but almost compatible) protocol was used. > 2) I get a warning saying that I don't have a gnome compliant window > manager. GNOME is like that. I've had good luck with IceWM and sawfish (though the latter is too slow for my old hardware). GNOME seems to complain about other window managers, even if they purport to be "GNOME" compliant. Currently I just use XFCE, it does session management, is light weight, has a panel thingy, and all those GNOME apps work just fine. It's only the session manager that really cares about the "GNOME compliant" WM. > Are these related? How do I get a gnome compliant window manager? I > assume it's apt-get install something. No, they aren't related. -- Eric G. Miller -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: X Help
On Friday 15 February 2002 07:21 pm, Eric G. Miller wrote: > On Fri, Feb 15, 2002 at 04:39:44PM -0500, Mike wrote: > > I'm part way there already. I tried the command "dpkg-reconfigure > > xserver-xfree86" from another message that just came in. I changed a > > setting for framebuffer ( or something like that) to off. Now I get a > > desktop, but there are two issues: > > > > 1) The mouse is VERRY jumpy, to the point of being impossible to use. > check /var/log/XFree86.0.log
Re: X Help
On Fri, Feb 15, 2002 at 04:39:44PM -0500, Mike wrote: > I'm part way there already. I tried the command "dpkg-reconfigure > xserver-xfree86" from another message that just came in. I changed a > setting for framebuffer ( or something like that) to off. Now I get a > desktop, but there are two issues: > > 1) The mouse is VERRY jumpy, to the point of being impossible to use. Probably wrong mouse protocol. People also report problems with gpm (console mouse driver), but I've never had that problem. Have seen the jumpy mouse when the wrong (but almost compatible) protocol was used. > 2) I get a warning saying that I don't have a gnome compliant window > manager. GNOME is like that. I've had good luck with IceWM and sawfish (though the latter is too slow for my old hardware). GNOME seems to complain about other window managers, even if they purport to be "GNOME" compliant. Currently I just use XFCE, it does session management, is light weight, has a panel thingy, and all those GNOME apps work just fine. It's only the session manager that really cares about the "GNOME compliant" WM. > Are these related? How do I get a gnome compliant window manager? I > assume it's apt-get install something. No, they aren't related. -- Eric G. Miller
RE: X Help
I'm part way there already. I tried the command "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86" from another message that just came in. I changed a setting for framebuffer ( or something like that) to off. Now I get a desktop, but there are two issues: 1) The mouse is VERRY jumpy, to the point of being impossible to use. 2) I get a warning saying that I don't have a gnome compliant window manager. Are these related? How do I get a gnome compliant window manager? I assume it's apt-get install something. TIA, Mike -Original Message- From: Mike [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 15, 2002 3:58 PM To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: X Help Hi, I was running Debian stable OK, but wanted a newer version of a particular package and upgraded to testing. This seemed to go OK, until I rebooted the PC and many things, like X, man, and Ethernet were gone. I tried a fresh install of testing, and most things are working, except X. It appears that the driver loads and finds the card OK, but then dies after that. Any ideas? I've included a few files that might help. TIA, Mike ### BEGIN DEBCONF SECTION # XF86Config-4 (XFree86 server configuration file) generated by dexconf, the # Debian X Configuration tool, using values from the debconf database. # # Edit this file with caution, and see the XF86Config-4 manual page. # (Type "man XF86Config-4" at the shell prompt.) # # If you want your changes to this file preserved by dexconf, only make changes # before the "### BEGIN DEBCONF SECTION" line above, and/or after the # "### END DEBCONF SECTION" line below. Section "Files" FontPath"unix/:7100"# local font server # if the local font server has problems, we can fall back on these FontPath"/usr/lib/X11/fonts/misc" FontPath"/usr/lib/X11/fonts/cyrillic" FontPath"/usr/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/:unscaled" FontPath"/usr/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/:unscaled" FontPath"/usr/lib/X11/fonts/Type1" FontPath"/usr/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo" FontPath"/usr/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi" FontPath"/usr/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi" EndSection Section "Module" Load"GLcore" Load"bitmap" Load"dbe" Load"ddc" Load"dri" Load"extmod" Load"freetype" Load"glx" Load"int10" Load"pex5" Load"record" Load"speedo" Load"type1" Load"vbe" Load"xie" EndSection Section "InputDevice" Identifier "Generic Keyboard" Driver "keyboard" Option "CoreKeyboard" Option "XkbRules" "xfree86" Option "XkbModel" "pc104" Option "XkbLayout" "us" EndSection Section "InputDevice" Identifier "Configured Mouse" Driver "mouse" Option "CorePointer" Option "Device""/dev/psaux" Option "Protocol" "PS/2" Option "Emulate3Buttons" "true" Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5" EndSection Section "InputDevice" Identifier "Generic Mouse" Driver "mouse" Option "SendCoreEvents""true" Option "Device""/dev/input/mice" Option "Protocol" "ImPS/2" Option "Emulate3Buttons" "true" Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5" EndSection Section "Device" Identifier "Generic Video Card" Driver "nv" Option "UseFBDev" "true" EndSection Section "Monitor" Identifier "Generic Monitor" HorizSync 30-60 VertRefresh 50-75 Option "DPMS" EndSection Section "Screen" Identifier "Default Screen" Device "Generic Video Card" Monitor "Generic Monitor" DefaultDepth16 SubSection "Display" Depth 1 Modes "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480" EndSubSection SubSection "Display" Depth 4 Modes "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480" EndSubSection SubSection "Display" Depth 8 Modes "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480" EndSubSection SubSection "Display" Depth 15 Modes "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480" EndSubSection SubSection "Display" Depth 16 Modes "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480" EndSubSection SubSection "Display" Depth 24 Modes "1024x768" "
Re: X HELP
yeah i got it now... it's just the read permissions in /etc/X11/XF86Config my root has a umask of 700 thanks anyway On Mon, Jun 05, 2000 at 02:05:37PM +0200, Oswald Buddenhagen wrote: > > /etc/XF86Config > > /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/XF86Config.kreaper > > /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/XF86Config > > > all wrong. on debian it is /etc/X11/XF86Config ;-) > > -- > Hi! I'm a .signature virus! Copy me into your ~/.signature, please! > -- > If Windows is the answer, I want the problems back! > > > -- |kreaper| |[EMAIL PROTECTED]| |[EMAIL PROTECTED] | |[EMAIL PROTECTED] | Tuesday After Lunch is the cosmic time of the week.
Re: X HELP
> /etc/XF86Config > /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/XF86Config.kreaper > /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/XF86Config > all wrong. on debian it is /etc/X11/XF86Config ;-) -- Hi! I'm a .signature virus! Copy me into your ~/.signature, please! -- If Windows is the answer, I want the problems back!
Re: X help
On Fri, 25 Dec 1998, Kent West wrote: >On Wed, 23 Dec 1998 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >> ok I recently installed Debian on my computer and when I set up X I set the >> resolution and everything right in xf86config and I did the xf86setup also >> >> But then I do startx and my resolution is way to big for my screen >> I tried changing the resolution about 10 times then I finally gave up and >> asked you guys >> > >I've noticed that I have better luck if I answer "no" when XF86Setup asks >if I want to use my existing XF86Config file for defaults. You might try >that (make a backup of /etc/X11/XF86Config first). To add to Ken's response, there's a "Screen" section in /etc/X11/XF86Config that looks something like this: Section "Screen" Driver "Accel" <-- the Driver you are interested in is most likely either "Accel" (if you use a server other than XF86_SVGA), or "SVGA", if -- you guessed it -- you are using XF86_SVGA Device "Trio64" Monitor "ASTVision" DefaultColorDepth 8 BlankTime 0 SuspendTime 0 OffTime 0 SubSection "Display" <-- this is the interesting section for video modes for each depth, the server will try the modes in the order they are listed here (if you don't give the server a -bpp optiion, it will likely run with 8 bpp, thus the "Depth 8" section woul be relevant). If you don't like the order the server tries the modes in here, just become root and reorder 'em. Also you can normally go through these modes with Ctrl-Alt-KP+ or Ctrl-Alt-KP-, where KP+ and KP- are "grey" + and - on the "ten-key-calculator" keypad, respectively. And there're plenty more goodies in the XF86Config manual page. Depth8 Modes "800x600" "640x480" "640x400" "1280x1024" "1152x864" "1024x76 8" "512x384" "480x300" "400x300" "320x240" "320x200" ViewPort 0 0 EndSubSection .. more SubSection "Display" entries here EndSection -- Evgeny Roubinchtein, [EMAIL PROTECTED] ... Logic: The art of being wrong with confidence...
Re: X help
Kent West wrote: > > On Wed, 23 Dec 1998 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > ok I recently installed Debian on my computer and when I set up X I set the > > resolution and everything right in xf86config and I did the xf86setup also > > > > But then I do startx and my resolution is way to big for my screen > > I tried changing the resolution about 10 times then I finally gave up and > > asked you guys > > > > I've noticed that I have better luck if I answer "no" when XF86Setup asks > if I want to use my existing XF86Config file for defaults. You might try > that (make a backup of /etc/X11/XF86Config first). Try using xf86config, instead of XF86Setup, it might help. Also, tell us the details of XF86Config file and what video card you are using. In my XF86Config, I have an entry like this (in the Screen section): Subsection "Display" Depth 16 Modes "1600x1200" "320x240" "400x300" "640x480" "800x600" "1024x768" "1152x864" "1280x1024" <-- these go on the above line ViewPort 1600 1200 EndSubsection Now if you don't want to use your monitor as a viewport on a larger, virtual screen, make sure the ViewPort line is the same as the first entry on the Modes line. The first resolution on the Modes line is what X tries to start in. Note: not every video card will support all the modes lines above. You will probably have to edit the mode lines (prior to the Screen section) after selecting a video card in xf86config. -- Ed C.
Re: X help
On Wed, 23 Dec 1998 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > ok I recently installed Debian on my computer and when I set up X I set the > resolution and everything right in xf86config and I did the xf86setup also > > But then I do startx and my resolution is way to big for my screen > I tried changing the resolution about 10 times then I finally gave up and > asked you guys > I've noticed that I have better luck if I answer "no" when XF86Setup asks if I want to use my existing XF86Config file for defaults. You might try that (make a backup of /etc/X11/XF86Config first). -- Kent West [EMAIL PROTECTED] KC5ENO - Amateur Radio: When all else fails. Linux - Finally! A real OS for the Intel PC! "Life is an ongoing classroom." - Capt. James T. Kirk, "Dreadnought"
Re: X help
ok I recently installed Debian on my computer and when I set up X I set the resolution and everything right in xf86config and I did the xf86setup also But then I do startx and my resolution is way to big for my screen I tried changing the resolution about 10 times then I finally gave up and asked you guys
Re: X help
On Wed, 23 Dec 1998 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Ok I try all that I edit xf86config and all that > > but it still doesnt change my resolution > you have any other suggestions on how to do this? I may be getting in late on this thread; at any rate, I don't recall what your specific problem is or what things you've tried. However, from your post I take it that you'd like to change your video resolution. You might try running XF86Setup and try to change your settings there. If that doesn't work, you might repost with a brief summary to remind us (or at least me) of your problem/attempted_solutions. -- Kent West [EMAIL PROTECTED] KC5ENO - Amateur Radio: When all else fails. Linux - Finally! A real OS for the Intel PC! "Life is an ongoing classroom." - Capt. James T. Kirk, "Dreadnought"
Re: X help
Ok I try all that I edit xf86config and all that but it still doesnt change my resolution you have any other suggestions on how to do this?
Re: X help
On Sun, 20 Dec 1998 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > When I install X I configure it right and then it goes into X and the > resolution is way to big for my monitor > > Is there a way I can change the resolution so X can fit my screen Yup. It's on the FAQ's. also try to look for the line "Virtual" in /etc/X11/XF86Config and comment that like or make the value the same as the highest resolution in every color depth. ciao. k e c h i e
Re: X help
On Sun, 20 Dec 1998 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > When I install X I configure it right and then it goes into X and the > resolution is way to big for my monitor What you mean?Do you mean that when you move a mouse to the edge of a screen (left/bottom), you shift to another screen? It's called 'virtual desktop', it's perfectly normal > Is there a way I can change the resolution so X can fit my screen To answer this: If you know at what resolution you are right now, run xf86config and , after you choose all the parameters of video/monitor, you will be given a choice of modes. Just look up the mode you are in, say, you use 1028x764 at 8dpp , but you want to use 800x600 at 8dpp. Then hit 1 ( change modes for the 8dpp). There you can make up your own orde of modes. SO you put 800x600 first. For example: You have 640x480, 800x600, 1024x764 at 8dpp ANd 1024x764 is too bad for you. Hit 1, and choose 800x600, and then 640x480. When you come back, you will have 800x640, 640x480 at 8dpp Therefor, when xserver searches for the first valid mode, your 1024x764 will not be used, since it's not in the list. And 800x640 will be used instead. > Thanks No problem. Andrew Never include a comment that will help | Andrew Ivanov someone else understand your code. | [EMAIL PROTECTED] If they understand it, they don't | ICQ: 12402354 need you. |
RE: X Help
I am running Debian 1.31. I want to install X windows on my system.
Keep in mind that I have run X windows on this machine in the past
using
XFree86. So I know there is no incompatability in the software
hardware
issue.
Here is the problem:
I cannot run XF86Setup. It will not show anything on my monitor. I
configure it by way of xf86config and run startx and get a blank
screen
also. I have tried the copy off my CD and the copy on the debian FTP
site with the same results. BTW, it must be loading because all I
have
to do is wait for the hard drive activity to stop and press
CTRL-ALT-Backspace and get back to my CLI. This has to be something
simple that I have overlooked since I cannot see the system not
working. BTW, I have looked at the configuration file from my old
install and cannot find anything meaningfull different between the
two.
Here is my hardware:
HP Pavilion 7166
133 MHZ Pentium
36 MEG RAM
Several HD's
IDE CD-rom
S3 Trio64 V+ built in vidio card with 1 MEG ram
HP Pavilion 15" Monitor
Hope this helps.
Thanks
Brian Schramm
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> I cannot run XF86Setup. It will not show anything on my monitor. I
Have you tried to run XF86Setup and NOT use defaults found in
XF86Config file?
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> I cannot run XF86Setup. It will not show anything on my monitor. I
Have you tried to run XF86Setup and NOT use defaults found in
XF86Config file?
Alex Y.
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