Re: chkconfig is to redhat as ___ is to debian?
On Wed, Mar 06, 2002 at 05:17:12PM -0500, Michael Marziani wrote: I've poked around dselect and can't find chkconfig. Is this included in some larger package of handy admin utils? If no chkconfig, is there a package that does something similar? Apart from what the other mentioned you can also look at rcconf: Description: Debian Runlevel configuration tool This tool configures system services in connection with system runlevels. It turns on/off services using the scripts in /etc/init.d/. Rcconf works with both System-V style and file-rc runlevel configuration. It is a TUI frontend to the update-rc.d command. Regards. Johann -- Johann Spies Telefoon: 021-808 4036 Informasietegnologie, Universiteit van Stellenbosch Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost; Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you; and, lo, I am with you alway, even unto the end of the world. Amen. Matthew 28:19,20
RE: chkconfig is to redhat as ___ is to debian?
On 03/06/2002 at 19:54:28, Arthur H. Johnson II said: Why dont you just create the symlinks yourself. Its what I do. Because that's dirty. Use Debian's update-rc.d utility instead. Regards, Neil Darlow M.Sc. -- 1024D/531F9048 1999-09-11 Neil Darlow [EMAIL PROTECTED] GPG Fingerprint = 359D B8FF 6273 6C32 BEAA 43F9 E579 E24A 531F 9048
RE: chkconfig is to redhat as ___ is to debian?
How is creating the symlinks yourself any less clean than using a program to create the symlinks automatically? I think this is mostly a difference of opinion. When I want to add a service, I simply cd to /etc/rc2.d, and run: ln -s ../init.d/service S20service Quite simple really. If I need it in any other services, I configure it there as well. I may also have to create a K symlink if I need the service stopped when changing runlevels however. On Thu, 2002-03-07 at 03:54, Neil Darlow wrote: On 03/06/2002 at 19:54:28, Arthur H. Johnson II said: Why dont you just create the symlinks yourself. Its what I do. Because that's dirty. Use Debian's update-rc.d utility instead. Regards, Neil Darlow M.Sc. -- 1024D/531F9048 1999-09-11 Neil Darlow [EMAIL PROTECTED] GPG Fingerprint = 359D B8FF 6273 6C32 BEAA 43F9 E579 E24A 531F 9048 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Arthur H. Johnson II President, Genesee County Linux Users Group Debian GNU/Linux Advocate [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gclug.org -- Don't try to outweird me, three-eyes. I get stranger things than you free with my breakfast cereal. - Zaphod Beeblebrox in Hitchiker's Guide to the Galaxy
RE: chkconfig is to redhat as ___ is to debian?
On 3/7/02, 12:42:05 PM, Arthur H. Johnson II wrote: How is creating the symlinks yourself any less clean than using a program to create the symlinks automatically? I think this is mostly a difference of opinion. Simply, that by using update-rc.d no knowledge of the directory structure of /etc/rcN.d or /etc/init.d is required. The utility also makes acceptable assumptions depending on how much command line information is provided. Regards, Neil Darlow M.Sc. -- 1024D/531F9048 1999-09-11 Neil Darlow [EMAIL PROTECTED] GPG Fingerprint = 359D B8FF 6273 6C32 BEAA 43F9 E579 E24A 531F 9048
Re: chkconfig is to redhat as ___ is to debian?
Neil Darlow wrote: On 3/7/02, 12:42:05 PM, Arthur H. Johnson II wrote: How is creating the symlinks yourself any less clean than using a program to create the symlinks automatically? I think this is mostly a difference of opinion. Simply, that by using update-rc.d no knowledge of the directory structure of /etc/rcN.d or /etc/init.d is required. The utility also makes acceptable assumptions depending on how much command line information is provided. Sorry, but I concur with this. Most of programming is defining some kind of interface to something else, and a valuable thing to do is to use the highest reasonable level of abstraction to simplify the task. If you show a specific value to doing the symlinks by hand for a specific circumstance it may be a good idea, but I think it's a bad generalized idea. In addition to this it's valuable to have a good vocabulary grasp of the tools that your peers are using as a standard. Best wishes. Sincerely, Xeno Regards, Neil Darlow M.Sc. -- 1024D/531F9048 1999-09-11 Neil Darlow [EMAIL PROTECTED] GPG Fingerprint = 359D B8FF 6273 6C32 BEAA 43F9 E579 E24A 531F 9048 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- http://www.eskimo.com/~xeno [EMAIL PROTECTED] Physically I'm at: 5101 N. 45th St., Tacoma, WA, 98407-3717, U.S.A.
Re: chkconfig is to redhat as ___ is to debian?
On 06-Mar-2002 Michael Marziani wrote: I've poked around dselect and can't find chkconfig. Is this included in some larger package of handy admin utils? If no chkconfig, is there a package that does something similar? chkconfig is a redhat ism. What are you trying to accomplish?
Re: chkconfig is to redhat as ___ is to debian?
Michael Marziani wrote: As I was recently told by a posting by Cameron Kerr: ~# update-rc.d usage: update-rc.d [-n] [-f] basename remove update-rc.d [-n] [-f] basename defaults [NN | sNN kNN] update-rc.d [-n] [-f] basename start|stop NN runlvl runlvl . ... -n: not really -f: force And as he stated, the . is part of the name, yes. I've poked around dselect and can't find chkconfig. Is this included in some larger package of handy admin utils? If no chkconfig, is there a package that does something similar? Thanks! -Mike _ Michael D. Marziani Systems Administrator Keller Williams Realty International -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- http://www.eskimo.com/~xeno [EMAIL PROTECTED] Physically I'm at: 5101 N. 45th St., Tacoma, WA, 98407-3717, U.S.A.
Re: chkconfig is to redhat as ___ is to debian?
* Sean 'Shaleh' Perry ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) spake thusly: On 06-Mar-2002 Michael Marziani wrote: I've poked around dselect and can't find chkconfig. Is this included in some larger package of handy admin utils? If no chkconfig, is there a package that does something similar? chkconfig is a redhat ism. SGI might disagree. Dima -- Riding roughshod over some little used trifle like the English language is not a big deal to an important technology innovator like Microsoft. They did just that by naming a major project dot-Net (.Net). Before that, a period followed by a capital letter was used to mark a sentence boundary. --T. Gottfried, RISKS 21.91
Re: chkconfig is to redhat as ___ is to debian?
* Michael Marziani ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [020306 14:33]: I've poked around dselect and can't find chkconfig. Is this included in some larger package of handy admin utils? If no chkconfig, is there a package that does something similar? Not really. There's the update-rc.d utility which is used by scripts. You can read its manpage to read about configuring your runlevels by hand. The basic gist of it is: have at it! Debian doesn't make any guise of implied meanings behind runlevels 2-5; you can customize them to your heart's delight. (How? Using ln, rm, and mv!) good times, Vineet -- Currently seeking opportunities in the SF Bay Area Please see http://www.doorstop.net/resume/ pgpxgpduw2GYn.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: chkconfig is to redhat as ___ is to debian?
Michael Marziani [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I've poked around dselect and can't find chkconfig. Is this included in some larger package of handy admin utils? If no chkconfig, is there a package that does something similar? update-rc.d is pretty much the equivalent. -- Alan Shutko [EMAIL PROTECTED] - In a variety of flavors! Courage is your greatest present need.
RE: chkconfig is to redhat as ___ is to debian?
I want to: NAME chkconfig - updates and queries runlevel information for system services DESCRIPTION chkconfig provides a simple command-line tool for main- taining the /etc/rc[0-6].d directory hierarchy by reliev- ing system administrators of the task of directly manipu- lating the numerous symbolic links in those directories. _ Michael D. Marziani Systems Administrator Keller Williams Realty International -Original Message- From: Sean 'Shaleh' Perry [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2002 4:35 PM To: Michael Marziani Cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: chkconfig is to redhat as ___ is to debian? On 06-Mar-2002 Michael Marziani wrote: I've poked around dselect and can't find chkconfig. Is this included in some larger package of handy admin utils? If no chkconfig, is there a package that does something similar? chkconfig is a redhat ism. What are you trying to accomplish?
RE: chkconfig is to redhat as ___ is to debian?
On 06-Mar-2002 Michael Marziani wrote: I want to: NAME chkconfig - updates and queries runlevel information for system services DESCRIPTION chkconfig provides a simple command-line tool for main- taining the /etc/rc[0-6].d directory hierarchy by reliev- ing system administrators of the task of directly manipu- lating the numerous symbolic links in those directories. Ok. 1) Debian only installs a package if the item is expected to be used. So the usual use of chkconfig to disable unneeded daemons should not apply here. If you want to disable a daemon (it happens sometimes) and there is no way provided (many packages offer a do not run me option if there is demand) you just edit the init.d script or remove the rc?.d symlinks. 2) as others have said update-rc.d 3) ls the rc?.d directory to see what is started when. For the most part things are started in a certain order to play nicely with others. You may need to change this, but likely not. My router is a laptop so I had to move many of my daemons to start much later than pcmcia.
Re: chkconfig is to redhat as ___ is to debian?
Why dont you just create the symlinks yourself. Its what I do. On Wed, 2002-03-06 at 17:17, Michael Marziani wrote: I've poked around dselect and can't find chkconfig. Is this included in some larger package of handy admin utils? If no chkconfig, is there a package that does something similar? Thanks! -Mike _ Michael D. Marziani Systems Administrator Keller Williams Realty International -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Arthur H. Johnson II President, Genesee County Linux Users Group Debian GNU/Linux Advocate [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gclug.org -- Don't try to outweird me, three-eyes. I get stranger things than you free with my breakfast cereal. - Zaphod Beeblebrox in Hitchiker's Guide to the Galaxy
