Re: help configuring my monitor resolution...
On Thu, Dec 05, 2002 at 12:28:28AM -0800, alan brown wrote: > So my question is, How can I use the keyboard to kill X-Windows (as my > mouse is dead)? ctrl-alt-backspace should kill X and return you to the command line. > And while I'm at it, how can I truly shut down linux. Because I am not > offered that option from the login page. Isn't there some simple set of > keystrokes that will tell linux to shutdown from anywhere like > ctrl-alt-delete does in Windows? Run 'shutdown -h now' as root. > Help is appreciated as I'm a recent windows convert and I'm struggling > to process the linux functionality through my expectation of windows > functionality. Linux is more complicated, but it does have a weird sort of logic (usually). Once you get into the 'linux' way of things, it'll get a lot easier. F'r instance, whenever I want to configure some package on my machine, I go poking around in the /etc/packagename directory, and read through the documentation in /usr/share/doc/packagename/. On windows, however, I'm lost. You should have seen me try to increase the PPP dialup timeout today... On a more general note, 'apt-get install discover read-edid mdetect', followed by a 'dpkg-reconfigure -plow xserver-xfree86' _should_ get X working for you. The discover package should sniff out your video card successfully (if it's recent-ish, anyhow) and mdetect and read-edid should be able to figure out your mouse and monitor, respectively. -rob msg18349/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: help configuring my monitor resolution...
On Thu, 2002-12-05 at 13:24, Pigeon wrote: > On Wed, Dec 04, 2002 at 06:56:44PM -0800, alan brown wrote: > > > Modes "1024*768" > > Try: 1024x768 (My own file has 800x600) > > "Barely usable"? 800x600 on a 21" screen sounds great to me! :-) > > Pigeon Reminds me of the system that I got at a graphics design job for a financial services company, before they started weaning themselves off 3270-type terminals to PCs: 19" monitor with 640x480 16 colours. I switched it up to 800x600 16 colours (it was a high end, quarter of a meg graphics card) and four years later went to 1024x768 16 colours when I brought in my half meg card from my home machine after putting a *whole* meg video card. And they wondered why I recommended a four meg card when the system was finally replaced after seven years... -- Mark L. Kahnt, FLMI/M, ALHC, HIA, AIAA, ACS, MHP ML Kahnt New Markets Consulting Tel: (613) 531-8684 / (613) 539-0935 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: help configuring my monitor resolution...
On Thu, 5 Dec 2002, Pigeon wrote: > "Barely usable"? 800x600 on a 21" screen sounds great to me! :-) > > Pigeon I've seen people here running windows at 640x480 on a 19" monitor. Not sure how anyone gets anything done at 640x480, let alone wasting that much screen real estate :) I prefer 1600x1200 on this 6.5 year old Viewsonic 20G. Got it from one of the CAD guys, had to give him a brand new Viewsonic p225f (22" perfect flat, drool). 15 minutes later i've got the focus controls fixed, and it's good enough for me. Mike -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: help configuring my monitor resolution...
On Wed, Dec 04, 2002 at 06:56:44PM -0800, alan brown wrote: > Modes "1024*768" Try: 1024x768 (My own file has 800x600) "Barely usable"? 800x600 on a 21" screen sounds great to me! :-) Pigeon -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: help configuring my monitor resolution...
ctrl-alt-F1 :will get you to a terminal/console mode screen. you'll probably have to login in again, that's what happens on my system anyway, but you'll be in console mode. As for not having any options at your login screen you're going to have to edit your gdm resource file. I'm not sure what it's called exactly or even where its at - sorry for being vague, I dont have a graphical login at the moment - but I did it on my machine before and added options to halt and reboot. read the manpage for gdm. I'm assuming its gdm you're running, the same would be true for wdm or xdm, tho. man gdm is the command. FWIW, mw. -Original Message- From: alan brown [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, December 05, 2002 3:28 AM To: 'Geordie Birch'; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: help configuring my monitor resolution... I tried reconfiguring but now I'm in a worse pickle than ever... When I first installed Xserver I was at least able to ctrl-alt-delete out of it (returning to a console view of the world), and edit the XF86Config-4 file and then run startx again and see how my changes changed X-Windows' behaviour. But now I'm stuck within gnome and my mouse is dead. Ctrl-alt-delete has no effect. And even if I did have a working mouse, I'm unclear how to get truly out of the GUI. When I logout of Gnome I go to the graphical log-in page and am offered no options other than logging right back in. So I'm not sure that I'm truly out of x-windows (though I think perhaps I am). So my question is, How can I use the keyboard to kill X-Windows (as my mouse is dead)? And while I'm at it, how can I truly shut down linux. Because I am not offered that option from the login page. Isn't there some simple set of keystrokes that will tell linux to shutdown from anywhere like ctrl-alt-delete does in Windows? Help is appreciated as I'm a recent windows convert and I'm struggling to process the linux functionality through my expectation of windows functionality. BTW - FWIW I've found Debian much easier to install than I expected it would be. It's when something doesn't go according to plan that there's so much more to learn than in Windows. At least for a windows user... alan -Original Message- From: Geordie Birch [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, December 04, 2002 7:53 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: help configuring my monitor resolution... said alan brown (on 2002-12-04), > The screen appears stuck on a 800x600 resolution. I've looked at the > manual try auto configuring X with debconf and the discover (and mdetect) packages: make sure you have discover and mdetect installed; backup your 'good' XF86Config-4; purge X: dpkg --force-depends --purge xserver-xfree86 reinstall and autoconfigure X: apt-get install xserver-xfree86 autoconfiguration only works with a fresh install - dpkg-reconfigure will not redo it. HT works for you. Geordie. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: help configuring my monitor resolution...
said alan brown (on 2002-12-05), > So I'm not sure that I'm > truly out of x-windows (though I think perhaps I am). No, you're not out of X at that point. > So my question is, How can I use the keyboard to kill X-Windows (as my > mouse is dead)? Ctrl-alt-backspace should kill X. This can be disabled in XF86Config-4 by setting the DontZap option. Ctrl-alt-F1 - F6 switches to text console 1-6. DontVTSwitch is the related config option. If you don't like/want/need/ a graphical login you can remove or disable whichever display manager you are using, or just shut it off eg. /etc/init.d/gdm stop. > And while I'm at it, how can I truly shut down linux. Because I am not > offered that option from the login page. Isn't there some simple set of > keystrokes that will tell linux to shutdown from anywhere like > ctrl-alt-delete does in Windows? Ctrl-alt-delete can be used from a text console to reboot. Edit /etc/inittab to allow this. Also check out MagicSysRq in the linux source code. This is useful for safely shutting down if your system "locks up" or something. You might want to disable keyboard shutdown functionality and just use /sbin/shutdown. > BTW - FWIW I've found Debian much easier to install than I expected it > would be. Yeah, I don't know what's supposed to be so hard about it. Check out #debian on irc.openprojects.net if you haven't already. Geordie. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: help configuring my monitor resolution...
I tried reconfiguring but now I'm in a worse pickle than ever... When I first installed Xserver I was at least able to ctrl-alt-delete out of it (returning to a console view of the world), and edit the XF86Config-4 file and then run startx again and see how my changes changed X-Windows' behaviour. But now I'm stuck within gnome and my mouse is dead. Ctrl-alt-delete has no effect. And even if I did have a working mouse, I'm unclear how to get truly out of the GUI. When I logout of Gnome I go to the graphical log-in page and am offered no options other than logging right back in. So I'm not sure that I'm truly out of x-windows (though I think perhaps I am). So my question is, How can I use the keyboard to kill X-Windows (as my mouse is dead)? And while I'm at it, how can I truly shut down linux. Because I am not offered that option from the login page. Isn't there some simple set of keystrokes that will tell linux to shutdown from anywhere like ctrl-alt-delete does in Windows? Help is appreciated as I'm a recent windows convert and I'm struggling to process the linux functionality through my expectation of windows functionality. BTW - FWIW I've found Debian much easier to install than I expected it would be. It's when something doesn't go according to plan that there's so much more to learn than in Windows. At least for a windows user... alan -Original Message- From: Geordie Birch [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, December 04, 2002 7:53 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: help configuring my monitor resolution... said alan brown (on 2002-12-04), > The screen appears stuck on a 800x600 resolution. I've looked at the > manual try auto configuring X with debconf and the discover (and mdetect) packages: make sure you have discover and mdetect installed; backup your 'good' XF86Config-4; purge X: dpkg --force-depends --purge xserver-xfree86 reinstall and autoconfigure X: apt-get install xserver-xfree86 autoconfiguration only works with a fresh install - dpkg-reconfigure will not redo it. HT works for you. Geordie. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: help configuring my monitor resolution...
said alan brown (on 2002-12-04), > The screen appears stuck on a 800x600 resolution. I've looked at the > manual try auto configuring X with debconf and the discover (and mdetect) packages: make sure you have discover and mdetect installed; backup your 'good' XF86Config-4; purge X: dpkg --force-depends --purge xserver-xfree86 reinstall and autoconfigure X: apt-get install xserver-xfree86 autoconfiguration only works with a fresh install - dpkg-reconfigure will not redo it. HT works for you. Geordie. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
