building rpms on debian
Hi everyone, what are the ways I can build RPMs on Debian system ?? Cani use rpmbuild -bb command on a debian system ? Thanks, Dhanvi
Re: building rpms on debian
Ek Zindagoi wrote: Hi everyone, what are the ways I can build RPMs on Debian system ?? Can i use rpmbuild -bb command on a debian system ? Thanks, Dhanvi You can install the rpm package on Debian. Now, whether you can make it work with build dependencies is another issue. You may have to install the Debian equivalents and then force the build to ignore the dependencies. There is information about this available via Google. -Roberto -- Roberto C. Sanchez http://familiasanchez.net/~roberto signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: building rpms on debian
Hi : On 4/19/06, Roberto C. Sanchez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You can install the rpm package on Debian. Now, whether you can make it work with build dependencies is another issue. You may have to install the Debian equivalents and then force the build to ignore the dependencies. There is information about this available via Google. I have been searching for information on how to build rpms on debain systems but havent been able to find out much.. apart from this one link on the debain-users mailing list : http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2004/04/msg00150.html If you do know any more pertinent information, can you please forward me the links ? Thanks for your help. Dhanvi
Re: building rpms on debian
On 4/19/06, Ek Zindagoi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi everyone, what are the ways I can build RPMs on Debian system ?? Cani use rpmbuild -bb command on a debian system ? Thanks, Dhanvi Why you want to use rpm instead use deb packages use apt to avoid dependencies problems!!-- Iván Alemán ~ [[ m o f o ]] ~Debian (SID)-BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK- Version: 3.12G!GCM d+ s: a? C+++ UL++P L$ E--- W+++ N* o---K- w O- M+ V-- PS++ PE-- Y PGP+++t-- 5 X R+ !tv b++ DI-- D+++ G+e++ h* r+ z**$--END GEEK CODE BLOCK-- bonovoxmofo.blogspot.com
Re: building rpms on debian
On 4/19/06, Ek Zindagi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi :On 4/19/06, Roberto C. Sanchez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You can install the rpm package on Debian.Now, whether you can make it work with build dependencies is another issue.You may have to install the Debian equivalents and then force the build to ignore the dependencies.There is information about this available via Google.I have been searching for information on how to build rpms on debain systems but havent been able to find out much.. apart from this onelink on the debain-users mailing list :http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2004/04/msg00150.html If you do know any more pertinent information, can you please forwardme the links ?Thanks for your help.DhanviWhy you want to build a rpm file ? -- Iván Alemán ~ [[ m o f o ]] ~Debian (SID)-BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK-Version: 3.12G!GCM d+ s: a? C+++ UL++P L$ E--- W+++ N* o---K- w O- M+ V-- PS++ PE-- Y PGP+++ t-- 5 X R+ !tv b++ DI-- D+++ G+e++ h* r+ z**$--END GEEK CODE BLOCK--bonovoxmofo.blogspot.com
Re: building rpms on debian
On Wed, Apr 19, 2006 at 12:11:20PM -0500, Ek Zindagoi wrote: Hi everyone, what are the ways I can build RPMs on Debian system ?? Can i use rpmbuild -bb command on a debian system ? In general yes but I'd install a chroot with the distribution you aim to package for. Try out rpmstrap to build the chroot enviroment. Sven -- If God passed a mic to me to speak I'd say stay in bed, world Sleep in peace [The Cardigans - 03:45: No sleep] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: building rpms on debian
On Wed, 19 Apr 2006 12:11:20 -0500 Ek Zindagoi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi everyone, what are the ways I can build RPMs on Debian system ?? Can i use rpmbuild -bb command on a debian system ? Thanks, Dhanvi Also look for a program called checkinstall It may help do what you want. It can create debs rpms -- Rodney D. Myers [EMAIL PROTECTED] Registered Linux User #96112 ICQ#: AIM#: YAHOO: 18002350 mailman452 mailman42_5 They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. Ben Franklin - 1759 signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: building rpms on debian
I had a similar problem. Install alien.#apt-get install alienthen you run this comand:#alien --to-deb wathver.rpmand it makes a .deb packege from the .rpm.Finally, type: # dpkg -i name of the new .deb If there where unreached dependencies, just open Synaptic and click the option to repair broken packages.Hope I were helpfull,Chao! Matías.-On 4/19/06, Rodney D. Myers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 19 Apr 2006 12:11:20 -0500Ek Zindagoi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi everyone,what are the ways I can build RPMs on Debian system ?? Can i use rpmbuild -bb command on a debian system ? Thanks, DhanviAlso look for a program called checkinstall It may help do what youwant. It can create debs rpms--Rodney D. Myers [EMAIL PROTECTED]Registered Linux User #96112ICQ#: AIM#: YAHOO:18002350mailman452mailman42_5They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.Ben Franklin - 1759-- La vida es una aplastante derrota tras otra, hasta que acabas deseando que se muera Flanders.Homero SimpsonDios es el único ser que para reinar no tuvo ni siquiera necesidad de existir. Charles Baudelaire
Re: [Fwd: Re: Pacotes RPMS para Debian]
Gusmao wrote: Ai pessoal.. instalei o openoffice tudo corretamente.. apliquei o comando /opt/openoffice.org1.9.79/program/soffice , mas.. ele aparece um erro assim, javaldx: Could not find a Java Runtime Environment! mesmo assim ele abriu para mim corretamente.. mas quando eu fui abrir o programa database, ele deu um erro reportando assim OpenOffice.org requires a java runtime environment (JRE) to perform this task. Please install a JRE and restart OpenOffice.org Eu avisei que não era para fazer isso, principalmente porque você é iniciante e não saberia como resolver as pendengas derivadas. Ademais, existem pacotes debian para openoffice.org, tanto a versão estável quanto as betas do 2.0. creio que devo instar o Java runtime, para funcionar corretamente.. mas como faço isso .. eu uso o Debian CDD.. Leia a documentação. -- Esta mensagem, incluindo seus anexos, não contém nenhuma informação confidencial, pois se é para ser confidencial não poderia ser transitada por e-mail em uma lista pública. Portanto, se você não é o destinatário final da mensagem, não se preocupe! Além disso você pode fazer qualquer coisa com esta mensagem, incluíndo esta sátira à notas de copyrights ridiculas, que eu não estou nem aí!!! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Pacotes RPMS para Debian
Em Qua 30 Mar 2005 13:38, você escreveu: Ai.. cara.. blz.. ou valeu pela dica da conversão dos pacotes.. so que não consegui instala-los.. eles estão assim, ja transformados /home/gusmao/programas/RPMS/deb# os pacotes .deb estão neste caminho dentro da pasta deb... e agora, como eu faço para instala-los? obrigado Se os pacotes debian foram construídos adequadamente, instale-os com o comando # dpkg -i --force-overwrite *.deb no diretório onde estão os pacotes, claro. Depois disso, segui as instruções contidas em http://installation.openoffice.org/servlets/ReadMsg?list=devmsgNo=610 mas acho que elas não são mais necessárias para as atuais versões. Proponho que, depois de rodar o dpkg, você teste lançar o openoffice, com o comando /opt/openoffice1.9.51/program/soffice Se não funcionar, aí sim, tente seguir as instruções do link acima. Se der erros em alguma etapa do processo, mande tudo para a lista que a gente tenta ajudar. Ah, e mantenha a discussão dentro da lista, para que outros possam aproveitar... []s, tiago.
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Ai pessoal.. instalei o openoffice tudo corretamente.. apliquei o comando /opt/openoffice.org1.9.79/program/soffice , mas.. ele aparece um erro assim, javaldx: Could not find a Java Runtime Environment! mesmo assim ele abriu para mim corretamente.. mas quando eu fui abrir o programa database, ele deu um erro reportando assim OpenOffice.org requires a java runtime environment (JRE) to perform this task. Please install a JRE and restart OpenOffice.org creio que devo instar o Java runtime, para funcionar corretamente.. mas como faço isso .. eu uso o Debian CDD.. ---BeginMessage--- Em Qua 30 Mar 2005 13:38, você escreveu: Ai.. cara.. blz.. ou valeu pela dica da conversão dos pacotes.. so que não consegui instala-los.. eles estão assim, ja transformados /home/gusmao/programas/RPMS/deb# os pacotes .deb estão neste caminho dentro da pasta deb... e agora, como eu faço para instala-los? obrigado Se os pacotes debian foram construídos adequadamente, instale-os com o comando # dpkg -i --force-overwrite *.deb no diretório onde estão os pacotes, claro. Depois disso, segui as instruções contidas em http://installation.openoffice.org/servlets/ReadMsg?list=devmsgNo=610 mas acho que elas não são mais necessárias para as atuais versões. Proponho que, depois de rodar o dpkg, você teste lançar o openoffice, com o comando /opt/openoffice1.9.51/program/soffice Se não funcionar, aí sim, tente seguir as instruções do link acima. Se der erros em alguma etapa do processo, mande tudo para a lista que a gente tenta ajudar. Ah, e mantenha a discussão dentro da lista, para que outros possam aproveitar... []s, tiago. ---End Message---
Re: RPMs on debian
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Re: RPMs on debian
Phil [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Is there a way to install RPMs on Debian? Yes. Alien. But ultimately, you should just be using .debs instead. Pester your developer. http://packages.debian.org/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?keywords=aliensearchon=namessubword=1version=allrelease=all -- .''`. Paul Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] : :' : `. `'` proud Debian admin and user `- Debian. Because it *must* work. debian.org aboutdebian.com pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
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-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Thus spake Phil: # Is there a way to install RPMs on Debian? Two ways I can think of: 1) apt-get install alien alien --to-deb package.rpm 2) mkdir /var/lib/rpm rpm --initdb then install the package with rpm -i package.rpm --nodeps If you have committed yourself to maintaining some RPMs and have since migrated to Debian as I have, this option will allow you to continue building RPMs on Debian (using rpmbuild -ba specfile.spec --nodeps) on Debian. HTH, PRINCE -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFAbPYiAl2SNUPt1I8RAqXsAJ9+NYlzymBsL/h98bTgqyaDZB/s7QCfd8CK cxhHtuBlJGQq2GSAVEXpykQ= =v/FO -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Hi, how to install rpms on Debian??
From: Zhao You Bing [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, July 13, 2003 1:21 PM Subject: Hi, how to install rpms on Debian?? Thanks!!! -- Zhao YouBing, Ph.D student State Key Lab of CADCG,Zhejiang University, Hangzhou, 310027, P.R.China Tel : 0571-87951045(O), 87933444(H) Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] MSN : [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] I believe you can use a package called Alien to convert RPM packages to Debian packages, then install with dpkg like you normally would. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hi, how to install rpms on Debian??
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Re: Hi, how to install rpms on Debian??
Well you can try package alien but be warned that it didn't work properly with some packages for me. Andy On Sun, 13 Jul 2003, Zhao You Bing wrote: Thanks!!! -- Zhao YouBing, Ph.D student State Key Lab of CADCG,Zhejiang University, Hangzhou, 310027, P.R.China Tel : 0571-87951045(O), 87933444(H) Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] MSN : [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: Installing Intel compiler RPMs on Debian
Charlie Zender wrote: 2. Creating a new partition with RedHat just for this is the software equivalent of building a second Taj Mahal because your wife does not like the color of the first one. You don't need a partition. Just a copy of the directory structure. These are the directories that you need. If I got the list right. bin dev etc lib opt root sbin tmp usr var root Copy those from your RH machine to your Debian machine and put them in an area to be chroot'd into. Say /rharea or some such. At that time you can install normally. After you are done you can copy the bits out. (This also works in reverse. You can have a Debian chroot area on the RH machine. But that is another story.) chroot /rharea rpm -qa But since you already have the bits installed on your other RH machines you can just copy the data over from there. 3. I asked Intel if they would supply Debian-compatible compilers to their customers. FYI, their rather helpful reply is below. Basically they seem to be saying that I can do a manual install along the lines of what I tried but using rpm2cpio instead of alien. Maybe this will work better, I have not tried it yet. Using this information posted by Intel I can post more details of my own process. Because they wrap the rpm installer with their own script installer it is not even possible to create a rpm database and install it using rpm. There will be unsatisified dependencies. You can't even force the installation because the script installer isolates you from the rpm installer. What is the recommended way to install the Intel Fortran and C/C++ compilers on Debian? I have not yet seen much discussion on the lists specifically concerning the Intel compilers. Unfortunately you want to install one of the most confusing packages. I have installed the Intel compiler several times. PITA. I suppose I could try to find where the RPMs want to install their contents, and then try to install them myself manually. This sounds dangerous and error-prone, however. Actually it is not so dangerous. This is basically what the alien program does. It takes apart the rpm and puts it back together again as a deb. I created my own debs this way manually. I am only commenting on their packaging of their compiler and not the compiler itself. The compiler software itself seems of fine quality. But they wrapped it in a burlap bag and threw it off of the delivery truck onto the doorstep without stopping the truck. The overall impression the user is left with is less than good. Okay, enough ranting. Here are the details. The compilers arrive as a compressed tar file. This is how the installation goes on an rpm based system. Untar the file into a directory. There you will see many files including install scripts, release notes and rpm files. They expect you to run the 'install' script. That script will install the rpm files onto your system using rpm. Okay so far. Then the install script will walk through a series of files and scripts which were installed and *edit them after the rpm installation*. This step renders the installation impossible to verify on an rpm system. The checksums are now different than the install database thinks they should be. They are really just using rpm as a tarfile style file splat onto your system and then doing fixup later outside of the install system. But the installation should still work regardless. Therefore if you have a RH system and have previously installed the compilers there you can simply copy the directory /opt/intel from that machine over to your Debian machine. You can make a snapshot of it with 'tar cvzf' and then untar it in place on the other system. That should work for the most painless way to transfer the bits. But if you do not have a RH machine at all nor a RH chroot area to unpack this in then you can pick things apart on your Debian system manually and achieve a working result. [This looks basically like what Intel has recommended that you do in the note that you posted. But perhaps I have a little more detail here. Note that I have been working with ia64 and not ia32 and therefore there may be some differences.] Here is what I recommend that you do on Debian. The compilers arrive as a compressed tar file. Untar the file into a directory. Then use rpm2cpio to extract the files that you need manually. You will want to unpack the three rpm files that match your architecture. for file in *.i386.rpm; do rpm2cpio $file | cpio -idvm done That will unpack all of the files into a ./opt/ directory. You will now need to do what the script installer does. Decide where you are going to install the compiler. That could be the default /opt/intel directory. Or it could be /usr/local/ someplace. Here is the instructions in more script form. I install them in /opt but the normal recommendation is to install one off software in /usr/local someplace. In this case /opt/intel is the default
Re: Installing Intel compiler RPMs on Debian
Yes Bob is right. Let me add few words for quick and sure cure :-) On Sun, Mar 09, 2003 at 01:27:38PM -0700, Bob Proulx wrote: Nathan Poznick wrote: error: cannot open Packages index using db3 - No such file or directory (2) Actually, this error is usually due to the RPM database not being initialized. As root, do an rpm --initdb And you shouldn't get that message anymore. However, it is probably best to simply use alien to convert the RPMs into debian packages. No, no, NO! Initializing the rpm database like that will only allow you to experience dependency nightmares and possibly break your system. Please do not recommend this method to other people. It can only hurt them. Man with one watch knows what time it is. Man with two watches is never really sure. Try to rpm install package A. Package A depends upon glibc which is not installed by rpm. (It is installed, but rpm does not know about it.) So you install it by rpm. If you keep that up you will have two completely confused package managers and one really broken system. In general the right answer is to convert the rpm package using alien to a deb package and install the deb package. Unfortunately the alien in 'woody' 'stable' has a couple of conversion bugs. The one from 'sid' 'unstable' has those fixed. I recommend the alien from unstable at this time. [In the case of the Intel compiler this won't work because their packages are completely wacked. They use an external installer shell script around the rpm installer. They use rpm only as a tar-like file carrier and then munge the files after rpm install using their installer shell script. Even on an rpm based system the installation won't verify after an install. They are horrible! I am going to answer the problem of the Intel compiler in another response. And remember, that compiler is not free[1] software and therefore is definitely not part of the Debian project.] When or if people talk to vendors of rpm packages please push them toward the LSB[2]. LSB compliant packages will install with little effort on Debian systems using alien. Then push that vendor to supply packages in the format that their users are using. You are using Debian therefore ask them to supply Debian packages directly. In the mean time, if Charlie Zender [EMAIL PROTECTED] needs immediate needs to use Intel compiler, make a minimum install of RH system into a empty partition and install it there. Then reboot system back to Debian, of course, and mount RH partition to somewhere. Start chroot RH console using similar trick used by Colin Walters. http://people.debian.org/~walters Then you have Debian stablikity with access to RH system. Do not run bother to run X from RH which may eat too much memory of having 2 X. More on chroot: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/ch-tips.en.html#s-chroot This way, system is very safe without RH daemon with no compatibility issues on user space console program. Bob [1] http://www.debian.org/intro/free [2] http://www.linuxbase.org/ -- ~\^o^/~~~ ~\^.^/~~~ ~\^*^/~~~ ~\^_^/~~~ ~\^+^/~~~ ~\^:^/~~~ ~\^v^/~~~ + Osamu Aoki [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cupertino CA USA, GPG-key: A8061F32 .''`. Debian Reference: post-installation user's guide for non-developers : :' : http://qref.sf.net and http://people.debian.org/~osamu `. `' Our Priorities are Our Users and Free Software --- Social Contract -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Installing Intel compiler RPMs on Debian
Hi,
Wow. The help people are sending is incredible! This is the first
message I've posted to Debian User since I switched to Debian
a few weeks ago. I havn't needed to post anything else because it
just works, but these Intel compilers are a real challenge.
1. I tried alien'ing the RPMS and then manually changing INSTALL_DIR
in the scripts. This did not work for me. YMMV.
2. Creating a new partition with RedHat just for this is the software
equivalent of building a second Taj Mahal because your wife does not
like the color of the first one.
3. I asked Intel if they would supply Debian-compatible compilers
to their customers. FYI, their rather helpful reply is below. Basically
they seem to be saying that I can do a manual install along the lines
of what I tried but using rpm2cpio instead of alien. Maybe this will
work better, I have not tried it yet.
4. If anyone has a working solution, please let me know how you did it.
5. I am using debian unstable, so it does not have to run on woody.
Thanks,,
Charlie
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Charlie Zender, zender at uci dot edu, (949) 824-2987, Department of
Earth System Science, University of California, Irvine CA 92697-3100
Charlie,
The compiler package comes only with RPMS. There are no current
plans for
packaging specifically for Debian.
While the following instructions are not officially supported, it
will allow
you to install the compilers on your Debian system:
You can use the alien utility to turn rpms into debs. But, our install
script will not work with debs, so you will need to install manually
(this
is not supported). Here is what you have to do:
1) mkdir opt
2) rpm2cpio intel-icc7-7.0-86.i386.rpm | cpio -i {I'm guessing at the
filename here, I don't know what version you have}
3) edit script to run compiler driver in
opt/intel/compiler70/ia32/bin/icc.
Replace INSTALLDIR with
`pwd`/opt/intel directory (this is the main install directory for your
install).
4) copy your license file to `pwd`/opt/intel/licenses
5) set LD_LIBRARY_PATH variable
export LD_LIBRARY_PATH=`pwd`/opt/intel/compiler70/ia32/lib
Best Regards,
Mark Sabahi
Intel Developer Support
For on-line assistance: http://support.intel.com/support/performancetools
For product forums: http://www.intel.com/ids/community
For general support information:
http://www.intel.com/software/products/support/index.htm
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From: Charlie Zender[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, March 10, 2003 12:22:23 PM
To: PTO Support
Subject: ifc and icc for Debian
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Hi,
My group at the University of California at Irvine uses Debian Linux.
If we buy ifc and icc from Intel, will we receive a product that is
easy to install on Debian Linux? i.e., are their .deb packages?
or only RPMs? As you may know, your icc and ifc RPMs are not
standalone and so cannot be easily used on debian machines by
conversion using alien.
Thanks,
Charlie
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Re: Installing Intel compiler RPMs on Debian
On Mon, Mar 10, 2003 at 03:48:45PM -0800, Charlie Zender wrote: Hi, Wow. The help people are sending is incredible! This is the first message I've posted to Debian User since I switched to Debian a few weeks ago. I havn't needed to post anything else because it just works, but these Intel compilers are a real challenge. 1. I tried alien'ing the RPMS and then manually changing INSTALL_DIR in the scripts. This did not work for me. YMMV. 2. Creating a new partition with RedHat just for this is the software equivalent of building a second Taj Mahal because your wife does not like the color of the first one. Well HD is cheap. 500MB - 1GB for hassle free access is needed, this s the only way guaranteed. 3. I asked Intel if they would supply Debian-compatible compilers to their customers. FYI, their rather helpful reply is below. Basically they seem to be saying that I can do a manual install along the lines of what I tried but using rpm2cpio instead of alien. Maybe this will work better, I have not tried it yet. See below along this trick. Dependencies to other libraries will be a bitch but if you wish... 4. If anyone has a working solution, please let me know how you did it. 5. I am using debian unstable, so it does not have to run on woody. OK, One more try on 3rd option :-) Open RPM with mc and copy files to where ever you think should go. Here mc is midnight commander. Unstable got new version, so it may be rough edged but I think testing is still old one. I know this is totally manual and stupid, but it should work if package dependencies does not bite you. (mc runs rpm2cpio inside but does it transparently for you.) -- ~\^o^/~~~ ~\^.^/~~~ ~\^*^/~~~ ~\^_^/~~~ ~\^+^/~~~ ~\^:^/~~~ ~\^v^/~~~ + Osamu Aoki [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cupertino CA USA, GPG-key: A8061F32 .''`. Debian Reference: post-installation user's guide for non-developers : :' : http://qref.sf.net and http://people.debian.org/~osamu `. `' Our Priorities are Our Users and Free Software --- Social Contract -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Installing Intel compiler RPMs on Debian
error: cannot open Packages index using db3 - No such file or directory (2) Actually, this error is usually due to the RPM database not being initialized. As root, do an rpm --initdb And you shouldn't get that message anymore. However, it is probably best to simply use alien to convert the RPMs into debian packages. -- Nathan Poznick [EMAIL PROTECTED] There is no more miserable human being than one in whom nothing is habitual but indecision. - William James -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Installing Intel compiler RPMs on Debian
Nathan Poznick wrote: error: cannot open Packages index using db3 - No such file or directory (2) Actually, this error is usually due to the RPM database not being initialized. As root, do an rpm --initdb And you shouldn't get that message anymore. However, it is probably best to simply use alien to convert the RPMs into debian packages. No, no, NO! Initializing the rpm database like that will only allow you to experience dependency nightmares and possibly break your system. Please do not recommend this method to other people. It can only hurt them. Man with one watch knows what time it is. Man with two watches is never really sure. Try to rpm install package A. Package A depends upon glibc which is not installed by rpm. (It is installed, but rpm does not know about it.) So you install it by rpm. If you keep that up you will have two completely confused package managers and one really broken system. In general the right answer is to convert the rpm package using alien to a deb package and install the deb package. Unfortunately the alien in 'woody' 'stable' has a couple of conversion bugs. The one from 'sid' 'unstable' has those fixed. I recommend the alien from unstable at this time. [In the case of the Intel compiler this won't work because their packages are completely wacked. They use an external installer shell script around the rpm installer. They use rpm only as a tar-like file carrier and then munge the files after rpm install using their installer shell script. Even on an rpm based system the installation won't verify after an install. They are horrible! I am going to answer the problem of the Intel compiler in another response. And remember, that compiler is not free[1] software and therefore is definitely not part of the Debian project.] When or if people talk to vendors of rpm packages please push them toward the LSB[2]. LSB compliant packages will install with little effort on Debian systems using alien. Then push that vendor to supply packages in the format that their users are using. You are using Debian therefore ask them to supply Debian packages directly. Bob [1] http://www.debian.org/intro/free [2] http://www.linuxbase.org/ pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Installing Intel compiler RPMs on Debian
On Sun, Mar 09, 2003 at 01:34:05AM -0600, Gary Turner wrote: Charlie Zender wrote: Hi, What is the recommended way to install the Intel Fortran and C/C++ compilers on Debian? They come as a set of RPMs. The RPMs do not install on my Debian system, because there are no RPMs installed on my Debian system so it can't find any pre-requisites: error: cannot open Packages index using db3 - No such file or directory (2) I suppose I could try to find where the RPMs want to install their contents, and then try to install them myself manually. This sounds dangerous and error-prone, however. I gather this is a FAQ, what to do when you have an RPM you want to install on a Debian system?, but I could not find the answer. Google on Installing RPMs on Debian HOWTO yields a lot of hits. The key is the package alien. [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ apt-cache show alien Package: alien Priority: optional Section: admin Installed-Size: 212 Maintainer: Joey Hess [EMAIL PROTECTED] Architecture: all Version: 8.24 Depends: debhelper (= 3), perl (= 5.6.0-16), rpm (= 2.4.4-2), dpkg-dev, make, cpio Suggests: patch, bzip2, lsb-rpm, lintian Filename: pool/main/a/alien/alien_8.24_all.deb Size: 113412 MD5sum: ac232fe4e3ef90229f48c5522e005297 Description: install non-native packages with dpkg Alien allows you to convert LSB, Red Hat, Stampede and Slackware Packages into Debian packages, which can be installed with dpkg. . It can also generate packages of any of the other formats. . This is a tool only suitable for binary packages. HTH FWIW, sometimes it is better IMO to turm RPMs into TGZ format; then you can put the stuff in /opt or /usr/local. I never ever install anything into directories reserved for the packaging system unless it came from a deb created by a debian maintainer, a deb created by someone I trust, or a deb created by me. I do not trust debs created from rpm packages. My 2 cents .. -- Nathan Norman - Incanus Networking mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] We're sysadmins. Sanity happens to other people. -- Chris King -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Installing Intel compiler RPMs on Debian
Hi, What is the recommended way to install the Intel Fortran and C/C++ compilers on Debian? They come as a set of RPMs. The RPMs do not install on my Debian system, because there are no RPMs installed on my Debian system so it can't find any pre-requisites: error: cannot open Packages index using db3 - No such file or directory (2) I suppose I could try to find where the RPMs want to install their contents, and then try to install them myself manually. This sounds dangerous and error-prone, however. I gather this is a FAQ, what to do when you have an RPM you want to install on a Debian system?, but I could not find the answer. Any tips appreciated, Charlie -- Charlie Zender, zender at uci dot edu, (949) 824-2987, Department of Earth System Science, University of California, Irvine CA 92697-3100 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Installing Intel compiler RPMs on Debian
Charlie Zender wrote: Hi, What is the recommended way to install the Intel Fortran and C/C++ compilers on Debian? They come as a set of RPMs. The RPMs do not install on my Debian system, because there are no RPMs installed on my Debian system so it can't find any pre-requisites: error: cannot open Packages index using db3 - No such file or directory (2) I suppose I could try to find where the RPMs want to install their contents, and then try to install them myself manually. This sounds dangerous and error-prone, however. I gather this is a FAQ, what to do when you have an RPM you want to install on a Debian system?, but I could not find the answer. Any tips appreciated, Charlie You could try to use alien to turn it into a deb. I used alien with rpm's for drivers for a Digiboard and had pretty good luck. As for the db3 error, there is a Debian package for db3 if it is required. apt-cache search db3 Good luck, -- Barry deFreese Debian 3.0r1 Woody Registered Linux Newbie #302256 - Debian Developer Wannabe Programming today is a race between software engineers striving to build bigger and better idiot-proof programs, and the Universe trying to produce bigger and better idiots. So far, the Universe is winning. Rich Cook. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Installing Intel compiler RPMs on Debian
Charlie Zender wrote: Hi, What is the recommended way to install the Intel Fortran and C/C++ compilers on Debian? They come as a set of RPMs. The RPMs do not install on my Debian system, because there are no RPMs installed on my Debian system so it can't find any pre-requisites: error: cannot open Packages index using db3 - No such file or directory (2) I suppose I could try to find where the RPMs want to install their contents, and then try to install them myself manually. This sounds dangerous and error-prone, however. I gather this is a FAQ, what to do when you have an RPM you want to install on a Debian system?, but I could not find the answer. Google on Installing RPMs on Debian HOWTO yields a lot of hits. The key is the package alien. [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ apt-cache show alien Package: alien Priority: optional Section: admin Installed-Size: 212 Maintainer: Joey Hess [EMAIL PROTECTED] Architecture: all Version: 8.24 Depends: debhelper (= 3), perl (= 5.6.0-16), rpm (= 2.4.4-2), dpkg-dev, make, cpio Suggests: patch, bzip2, lsb-rpm, lintian Filename: pool/main/a/alien/alien_8.24_all.deb Size: 113412 MD5sum: ac232fe4e3ef90229f48c5522e005297 Description: install non-native packages with dpkg Alien allows you to convert LSB, Red Hat, Stampede and Slackware Packages into Debian packages, which can be installed with dpkg. . It can also generate packages of any of the other formats. . This is a tool only suitable for binary packages. HTH -- gt [EMAIL PROTECTED] Well, you order it from the 'Society of Hardware and Information Technology Helpers, Executive Administration Division' website - you're a member aren't you?--BOFH -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: RPMS in debian
Alien has been mentioned already, but there are php and mysql debs available from debian. I just did apt-get install php-mysql to install it. Greg * Eileen Orbell ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Hi, Is there a way to convert RPM's so I can use them in Debian?? I want to install the mysql-php-apache rpm from mysql.org Thanks Eileen Orbell Software Internet Applications Capitol College mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Don't Fear the Penguin. -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
RPMS in debian
Hi, Is there a way to convert RPM's so I can use them in Debian?? I want to install the mysql-php-apache rpm from mysql.org Thanks Eileen Orbell Software Internet Applications Capitol College mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Don't Fear the Penguin.
Re: RPMS in debian
Eileen Orbell [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Is there a way to convert RPM's so I can use them in Debian?? I want to install the mysql-php-apache rpm from mysql.org 'alien' can convert RPM = DEB. moritz -- /* Moritz Schulte [EMAIL PROTECTED] * http://hp9001.fh-bielefeld.de/~moritz/ * PGP-Key available, encrypted Mail is welcome. */
Re: RPMS in debian
on Sat, Oct 28, 2000 at 06:25:21PM -0400, Eileen Orbell ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Hi, Is there a way to convert RPM's so I can use them in Debian?? I want to install the mysql-php-apache rpm from mysql.org man alien (that's the manpage for alien, not men are an alien species, regardless of truth content of either interpretation). -- Karsten M. Self kmself@ix.netcom.com http://www.netcom.com/~kmself Evangelist, Opensales, Inc.http://www.opensales.org What part of Gestalt don't you understand? There is no K5 cabal http://gestalt-system.sourceforge.net/http://www.kuro5hin.org pgpPQUJlBxE6d.pgp Description: PGP signature
