Re: Re(2): POP3 in Debian
Hi, On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 08:49:24AM -0800, peasth...@shaw.ca wrote: * From: Osamu Aoki os...@debian.org * Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2012 21:10:34 +0900 Both getmail4 and fetchmail can handle this task well ... According to the Wikipedia, fetchmail can not deliver to mbox. Well by itself ... yes you are right. | fetchmail is a mail-retrieval and forwarding utility; it fetches | mail from remote mailservers and forwards it to your local (client) | machine's delivery system. You can then handle the retrieved mail using | normal mail user agents such as mutt(1), elm(1) or Mail(1). Its all about fetching. You need another program to deliver to ... like procmail/maildrop/... Are you running that qpopper yourself? Not now. It was installed years ago before I learned to simplify configuration. Or connect to remote POP3 site with telnet. That explained the problem in a few minutes. The MUA is putting two blanks between LIST and 1. The Zimbra POP3 server is accepting one blank and not two. My log You mean your log viewing environment. is a variable pitch font and I failed to notice the two blanks. Should have noticed in the Courier font emessage but failed again. The ISP must have changed the POP server last weekend. No public notice and technical support staff were unaware. My telnet session follows in case anyone is interested. Good for you. The real question is who's bus is this. If this is bug on Debian package which is a bit too tight than what RFC allows, please file bug report on Debian. If this is non-RFC complient bug, maybe complain to ISP or Zimba POP3 server developer. ... Now that I understand, the MUA can be changed to send just one blank and interact with the ISP POP3 directly again. I think your usage of MUA is not a typical one. MUA is mutt, thunderbird, ... not POP3 server. Osamu -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120120131035.GA9761@localhost
Re(2): POP3 in Debian
Camaleon, From: Camaleon noela...@gmail.com Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2012 17:34:04 + (UTC) Which MUA? Refer to my message sent earlier today. Our messages crossed. In your case, you can just reduce the full chain to: POP3 server (remote site / isp server) ' fetchmail ' your $HOME mailbox ' MUA (clients) Simpler still. (POP3 server run by Shaw ISP) - (My Linux router) - (MUA on Oberon workstation). Addtional details in http://carnot.yi.org/NetworksPage.html;. Regards, ... Peter E. -- Telephone 1 360 639 0202. bcc: peasthope ... shaw.ca http://carnot.yi.org/; http://members.shaw.ca/peasthope/index.html#Itinerary; -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/171057396.47090.30575@cantor.invalid
Re: Re(2): POP3 in Debian
On Fri, 20 Jan 2012 11:31:50 -0800, peasthope wrote: Camaleon, From: Camaleon noela...@gmail.com Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2012 17:34:04 + (UTC) Which MUA? Refer to my message sent earlier today. Our messages crossed. I've reviewed the messages you have posted in this thread but haven't found a reference on what was your e-mail client :-? In your case, you can just reduce the full chain to: POP3 server (remote site / isp server) ' fetchmail ' your $HOME mailbox ' MUA (clients) Simpler still. (POP3 server run by Shaw ISP) - (My Linux router) - (MUA on Oberon workstation). Addtional details in http://carnot.yi.org/NetworksPage.html;. Oh, well, sure. That's the most basic setup. But that way you miss one of the most useful tools for handling today's mailboxes -running your own spamassassin- unless your ISP has a good and fully customizable anti-spam filter. P.S. IIRC, fetchmail works by default with mbox files but I'd say it can virtually work with any kind of mailbox storage formats given that it delivers the messages to the MTA. Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/jfcnbe$rsl$2...@dough.gmane.org
Re(2): POP3 in Debian
* From: Osamu Aoki os...@debian.org * Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2012 21:10:34 +0900 Both getmail4 and fetchmail can handle this task well ... According to the Wikipedia, fetchmail can not deliver to mbox. Are you running that qpopper yourself? Not now. It was installed years ago before I learned to simplify configuration. Or connect to remote POP3 site with telnet. That explained the problem in a few minutes. The MUA is putting two blanks between LIST and 1. The Zimbra POP3 server is accepting one blank and not two. My log is a variable pitch font and I failed to notice the two blanks. Should have noticed in the Courier font emessage but failed again. The ISP must have changed the POP server last weekend. No public notice and technical support staff were unaware. My telnet session follows in case anyone is interested. * From: J#xF6;rg-Volker Peetz jvpe...@web.de * Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2012 10:20:01 +0100 By the way, here we're using pop3 encrypted via ssl (which nowadays every provider should have available) in order to protect the password from eavesdropping. I connect to the home computer through an encrypted OpenVPN tunnel. The home computer is directly connected to the ISP network. For my usage, secure enough. If a specific message is sensitive, I can encrypt it. * From: Martin Steigerwald mar...@lichtvoll.de * Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2012 10:32:49 +0100 You could try with fetchmail, but I am not completely sure whether it can store what it retrieves in a mbox or whether it only supports maildir. Now that I understand, the MUA can be changed to send just one blank and interact with the ISP POP3 directly again. Thanks everyone! ... Peter E. = peter@dalton:~$ telnet pop.shaw.ca Trying 64.59.128.135... Connected to pop.glb.shawcable.net. Escape character is '^]'. +OK pop.shaw.ca USER peasthope +OK password required for user peasth...@shaw.ca PASS +OK server ready UIDL +OK 44 messages 1 262.1SncBhxqQCrWNAm,xqU5SHSAN7Q= 2 263.KJ68ukuCBjc8hDY0BF0eHGGve58= [42 messages deleted] . LIST 1 +OK 1 4211 LIST 1 -ERR unable to parse msg Quit +OK cds015.dcs.int.inet Zimbra POP3 server closing connection Connection closed by foreign host. = -- Telephone 1 360 639 0202. bcc: peasthope ... shaw.ca http://carnot.yi.org/; http://members.shaw.ca/peasthope/index.html#Itinerary; -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/171057395.35928.29220@cantor.invalid
