Re: /etc/default/keyboard XKBOPTIONS not read by X

2011-11-12 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Vi, 11 nov 11, 17:23:16, Dan B. wrote:
 
 Something _really_ screwy seems to be going on here.

I think Gnome is overriding the keyboard settings.

Regards,
Andrei
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Re: /etc/default/keyboard XKBOPTIONS not read by X

2011-11-12 Thread Dan B.

Andrei POPESCU wrote:

On Vi, 11 nov 11, 17:23:16, Dan B. wrote:

Something _really_ screwy seems to be going on here.


I think Gnome is overriding the keyboard settings.


Did you read the part about its setting the keyboard settings in
its X server differently depending on whether an unrelated X server
was running?

Daniel


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Re: /etc/default/keyboard XKBOPTIONS not read by X

2011-11-11 Thread Dan B.

Raf Czlonka wrote:

On Wed, Nov 09, 2011 at 12:50:57AM GMT, Bob Proulx wrote:

Dan B. wrote:

I tried swapping the left Control key and Caps Lock key by modifying
the XKBOPTIONS value in /etc/default/keyboard, per instructions that
said it would take effect for both the virtual consoles and X.


I presume you've restarted restarted udev or rebooted since then?


I have now (rebooted).



% udevadm trigger --subsystem-match=input --action=change

Can we see the content of your file (without the comments), please?



XKBMODEL=pc105
XKBLAYOUT=us
XKBVARIANT=
XKBOPTIONS=ctrl:swapcaps



Could you also point us to the instructions you've used as well, please?


http://shallowsky.com/blog/2011/Mar/20/

Note:  I was mistaken in thinking that _that_ page said that the
/etc/default/keyboard setting would take effect for both the virtual
consoles and X.

However, I read (somewhere else) that in Squeeze one could fix both the
virtual consoles and X with one setting.

(Also, the fact that /etc/default/keyboard uses the name XKB... and
uses the X configuration format suggests that the file might also be
read by X startup scripts.)


Thanks,
Daniel



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Re: /etc/default/keyboard XKBOPTIONS not read by X

2011-11-11 Thread Dan B.

Dan B. wrote:

Raf Czlonka wrote:

On Wed, Nov 09, 2011 at 12:50:57AM GMT, Bob Proulx wrote:

Dan B. wrote:

I tried swapping the left Control key and Caps Lock key by modifying
the XKBOPTIONS value in /etc/default/keyboard, per instructions that
said it would take effect for both the virtual consoles and X.

...

XKBMODEL=pc105
XKBLAYOUT=us
XKBVARIANT=
XKBOPTIONS=ctrl:swapcaps



Could you also point us to the instructions you've used as well, please?


http://shallowsky.com/blog/2011/Mar/20/

Note:  I was mistaken in thinking that _that_ page said that the
/etc/default/keyboard setting would take effect for both the virtual
consoles and X.

However, I read (somewhere else) that in Squeeze one could fix both the
virtual consoles and X with one setting.

(Also, the fact that /etc/default/keyboard uses the name XKB... and
uses the X configuration format suggests that the file might also be
read by X startup scripts.)


Hey, I just noticed that if I use startx (startx -- :1) to start X (and
Gnome, etc), the Control key gets swapped;.

It's in the X session started (or use?) by GDM that the Control key
doesn't get swapped.

Does that help identify the problem?


Daniel


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Re: /etc/default/keyboard XKBOPTIONS not read by X

2011-11-11 Thread Dan B.

I. wrote:

Dan B. wrote:

Raf Czlonka wrote:

On Wed, Nov 09, 2011 at 12:50:57AM GMT, Bob Proulx wrote:

Dan B. wrote:

I tried swapping the left Control key and Caps Lock key by modifying
the XKBOPTIONS value in /etc/default/keyboard, ...

...

XKBOPTIONS=ctrl:swapcaps



...

Hey, I just noticed that if I use startx (startx -- :1) to start X (and
Gnome, etc), the Control key gets swapped;.

It's in the X session started (or use?) by GDM that the Control key

   ^If it's   ^used

doesn't get swapped.



Actually, it varies in GDM, apparently depending on whether another X
server is still running:


I rebooted.


*In the original X server started automatically by/for GDM, Control was
not swapped (as I reported above).


I invoked startx ... to start another X server (and default Gnome
session).

*In that X server, Control was swapped (as I reported above).

I exited that Gnome session and X server (with Gnome's Log Out menu
item).


In the original GDM-starte X server and Gnome session, I logged out and
logged back in.

*In that X server, Control was not swapped (as for the previous
GDM-started X server).


Again, I started an X server with startx.

*In that X server, Control was again swapped (as for the previous
startx-started X server).


Without exiting that startx-started server, I went to GDM-started server,
logged out and back in.

*In that X server, Control *was* swapped (different than in the
previous two GDM-started X servers).


Something _really_ screwy seems to be going on here.



Daniel


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Re: /etc/default/keyboard XKBOPTIONS not read by X

2011-11-09 Thread Raf Czlonka
On Wed, Nov 09, 2011 at 12:50:57AM GMT, Bob Proulx wrote:
 Dan B. wrote:
  I tried swapping the left Control key and Caps Lock key by modifying
  the XKBOPTIONS value in /etc/default/keyboard, per instructions that
  said it would take effect for both the virtual consoles and X.

I presume you've restarted restarted udev or rebooted since then?

% udevadm trigger --subsystem-match=input --action=change

Can we see the content of your file (without the comments), please?
Could you also point us to the instructions you've used as well, please?

Regards,
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Raf


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Re: /etc/default/keyboard XKBOPTIONS not read by X

2011-11-08 Thread Bob Proulx
Dan B. wrote:
 I tried swapping the left Control key and Caps Lock key by modifying
 the XKBOPTIONS value in /etc/default/keyboard, per instructions that
 said it would take effect for both the virtual consoles and X.
 
 However, it works only for the virtual consoles, and not for X (neither
 when started by GDM nor when started by startx (with GDM disabled)).
 
 This on a fresh Squeeze installation.  (Hmm.  A freshly Squeezed
 compu... never mind.)
 
 Is something else necessary?  Or are those instructions obsolete?

I have been having some problems around this area and haven't
concluded as to the problem yet.  I don't know if I am having the same
problem or a different problem but will share what I know.

Previously keyboard remapping was handled by the console-tools
package.  I used the console-tools package package files
(/etc/init.d/console-screen.sh and /etc/console-tools/remap) to remap
the keyboard.  The console-tools package worked perfectly.  But that
package is now deprecated in favor of the kbd package.

I have been trying to recreate the same functionality of using the
keyboard remap file under kbd.  It doesn't work.  kbd checks to see if
setupcon from the console-setup package is installed and if so kbd
ignores the remap file.  Okay.  But console-setup doesn't do keyboard
remapping that I can see.  And it violates policy by shipping an empty
directory in /usr/share/doc/console-tools instead of required files
there.  Seems in need of love and attention.  So for the moment I have
fallen back to install-keymap and xmodmap.  Eventually I would like to
have this figured out but there are only so many hours in the day.

Again, I don't know if this will be related to your problem or not.

Bob


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