Re: [OT] BIOS Power On by PS/2 Keyboard

2011-07-24 Thread Camaleón
On Sat, 23 Jul 2011 15:59:13 -0500, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote:

> Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote:
>> Camaleón wrote:

(...)

>>> It looks like you are getting into hibernation instead of performing a
>>> full power off but anyway, AFAIK restoring from hibernation can be
>>> only done from power button, not from keyboard :-?
>>>
>>>
>> Right. That's what I thought. I "believe" that the BIOS Power on from
>> Keyboard option brought on my keyboard errors. The new keyboard that I
>> bought (since returned to the store...)had a multitude of multimedia
>> buttons and a "power" button, which I hit, and... it powered off the
>> system. As of yet the keyboard errors have not returned to my IBM
>> keyboard from 1993.
>> 
>> 
 I have not tried other keys, but next time around I will.
> 
> Hitting any key powers up the system.

Then that behaviour has no relation with the BIOS setting. You are just 
awaking the system from hibernation. Now you just need to find out how is 
that your system can be restored by simple pressing any key as that 
should only happen for suspended systems not hibernated ones :-?

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Re: [OT] BIOS Power On by PS/2 Keyboard

2011-07-23 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom

lee wrote:

Hugo Vanwoerkom  writes:


lee wrote:

Hugo Vanwoerkom  writes:


Now what has me stumped is that even though "Power on by PS/2
Keyboard" is disabled, I can still power on the system by hitting the
space bar twice. And it seems that the keyboard errors have
disappeared.

Well, I consider a mainboard that does this as broken.  What if the cat
runs over the keyboard ...



No cat. But there is Mechas. But she has trouble depressing the 'on'
button of the UPS...


What's Mechas?

So everyone who uses this mainboard needs an UPS with an "On" button
that is hard to press ...  Is the UPS included then?




Mechas is not a 'what', she is a 'who'. I have an UPS to prevent damage 
from power outages which are common here. The UPS is an APC BR700G and 
completely separate from the system with the Asus mobo.


Hugo


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Re: [OT] BIOS Power On by PS/2 Keyboard

2011-07-23 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom

Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote:

Camaleón wrote:

On Sat, 23 Jul 2011 11:18:41 -0500, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote:


Camaleón wrote:


(...)


Anyone venture an explanation?

You mean that although you have that option turned off in the BIOS you
can still start your computer -from a cold state, not from suspension
nor hibernation- when you hit the space bar? And just the space bar or
any key?

It could be a BIOS problem, then. Have you contacted Asus for this?



I "always" during the last couple of months power off with 'acpitool
-S'. 


***
-S  suspend (sleep state S4), if supported
***

Then you are not powering off the computer but hibernating.


BIOS Power on by PS/2 Keyboard is disabled. Then power is turned off on
the system.


Okay.


Turn power back on, hit the space bar, and the system comes back up.
Grub-legacy shows its menu and I select the partition that was running
and that has 'resume=LABEL=6Y080P0.05'. That loads everything from the
swap space and resumes.


It looks like you are getting into hibernation instead of performing a 
full power off but anyway, AFAIK restoring from hibernation can be 
only done from power button, not from keyboard :-?




Right. That's what I thought. I "believe" that the BIOS Power on from 
Keyboard option brought on my keyboard errors. The new keyboard that I 
bought (since returned to the store...)had a multitude of multimedia 
buttons and a "power" button, which I hit, and... it powered off the 
system. As of yet the keyboard errors have not returned to my IBM 
keyboard from 1993.




I have not tried other keys, but next time around I will.


Hitting any key powers up the system.

Hugo
























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Re: [OT] BIOS Power On by PS/2 Keyboard

2011-07-23 Thread lee
Hugo Vanwoerkom  writes:

> lee wrote:
>> Hugo Vanwoerkom  writes:
>>
>>> Now what has me stumped is that even though "Power on by PS/2
>>> Keyboard" is disabled, I can still power on the system by hitting the
>>> space bar twice. And it seems that the keyboard errors have
>>> disappeared.
>>
>> Well, I consider a mainboard that does this as broken.  What if the cat
>> runs over the keyboard ...
>>
>>
>
> No cat. But there is Mechas. But she has trouble depressing the 'on'
> button of the UPS...

What's Mechas?

So everyone who uses this mainboard needs an UPS with an "On" button
that is hard to press ...  Is the UPS included then?


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Re: [OT] BIOS Power On by PS/2 Keyboard

2011-07-23 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom

Camaleón wrote:

On Sat, 23 Jul 2011 11:18:41 -0500, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote:


Camaleón wrote:


(...)


Anyone venture an explanation?

You mean that although you have that option turned off in the BIOS you
can still start your computer -from a cold state, not from suspension
nor hibernation- when you hit the space bar? And just the space bar or
any key?

It could be a BIOS problem, then. Have you contacted Asus for this?



I "always" during the last couple of months power off with 'acpitool
-S'. 


***
-S  suspend (sleep state S4), if supported
***

Then you are not powering off the computer but hibernating.


BIOS Power on by PS/2 Keyboard is disabled. Then power is turned off on
the system.


Okay.


Turn power back on, hit the space bar, and the system comes back up.
Grub-legacy shows its menu and I select the partition that was running
and that has 'resume=LABEL=6Y080P0.05'. That loads everything from the
swap space and resumes.


It looks like you are getting into hibernation instead of performing a 
full power off but anyway, AFAIK restoring from hibernation can be only 
done from power button, not from keyboard :-?




Right. That's what I thought. I "believe" that the BIOS Power on from 
Keyboard option brought on my keyboard errors. The new keyboard that I 
bought (since returned to the store...)had a multitude of multimedia 
buttons and a "power" button, which I hit, and... it powered off the 
system. As of yet the keyboard errors have not returned to my IBM 
keyboard from 1993.




I have not tried other keys, but next time around I will.


Yes, and also try to completely shutdown the machine and then press the 
space bar to see what happens. Computer should not start.
 

I have not asked Asus because I am afraid they will ask what version
windows I have installed.


Well, this is a BIOS issue more that a OS problem.


This mobo has a weird feature: you can select 'express gate' and get
access to a linux O/S that gets you access to "the internet and skype".
I have it disabled and never have tried that.


I fear all of those new settings... I also prefer to keep the old-and-
well-known options for the BIOS that have been working since decades and 
keep the rest disabled :-}




To make it worse, you have to use MS windows to download the Linux O/S 
for that Express Gate option.


Hugo







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Re: [OT] BIOS Power On by PS/2 Keyboard

2011-07-23 Thread Camaleón
On Sat, 23 Jul 2011 11:18:41 -0500, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote:

> Camaleón wrote:

(...)

>>> Anyone venture an explanation?
>> 
>> You mean that although you have that option turned off in the BIOS you
>> can still start your computer -from a cold state, not from suspension
>> nor hibernation- when you hit the space bar? And just the space bar or
>> any key?
>> 
>> It could be a BIOS problem, then. Have you contacted Asus for this?
>> 
>> 
> I "always" during the last couple of months power off with 'acpitool
> -S'. 

***
-S  suspend (sleep state S4), if supported
***

Then you are not powering off the computer but hibernating.

> BIOS Power on by PS/2 Keyboard is disabled. Then power is turned off on
> the system.

Okay.

> Turn power back on, hit the space bar, and the system comes back up.
> Grub-legacy shows its menu and I select the partition that was running
> and that has 'resume=LABEL=6Y080P0.05'. That loads everything from the
> swap space and resumes.

It looks like you are getting into hibernation instead of performing a 
full power off but anyway, AFAIK restoring from hibernation can be only 
done from power button, not from keyboard :-?

> I have not tried other keys, but next time around I will.

Yes, and also try to completely shutdown the machine and then press the 
space bar to see what happens. Computer should not start.
 
> I have not asked Asus because I am afraid they will ask what version
> windows I have installed.

Well, this is a BIOS issue more that a OS problem.

> This mobo has a weird feature: you can select 'express gate' and get
> access to a linux O/S that gets you access to "the internet and skype".
> I have it disabled and never have tried that.

I fear all of those new settings... I also prefer to keep the old-and-
well-known options for the BIOS that have been working since decades and 
keep the rest disabled :-}

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Re: [OT] BIOS Power On by PS/2 Keyboard

2011-07-23 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom

lee wrote:

Hugo Vanwoerkom  writes:


Now what has me stumped is that even though "Power on by PS/2
Keyboard" is disabled, I can still power on the system by hitting the
space bar twice. And it seems that the keyboard errors have
disappeared.


Well, I consider a mainboard that does this as broken.  What if the cat
runs over the keyboard ...




No cat. But there is Mechas. But she has trouble depressing the 'on' 
button of the UPS...


Hugo


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Re: [OT] BIOS Power On by PS/2 Keyboard

2011-07-23 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom

Camaleón wrote:

On Sat, 23 Jul 2011 09:20:22 -0500, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote:

(...)


APM configuration has an item "Power On by PS/2 Keyboard" that I had set
to "space bar". But I was getting errors on my keyboard. So I bought a
new keyboard, which had exactly the same errors, so the problem was not
the keyboard.

So I disabled that feature.

Now what has me stumped is that even though "Power on by PS/2 Keyboard"
is disabled, I can still power on the system by hitting the space bar
twice. And it seems that the keyboard errors have disappeared.

Anyone venture an explanation?


You mean that although you have that option turned off in the BIOS you 
can still start your computer -from a cold state, not from suspension nor 
hibernation- when you hit the space bar? And just the space bar or any 
key?


It could be a BIOS problem, then. Have you contacted Asus for this?



I "always" during the last couple of months power off with 'acpitool 
-S'. BIOS Power on by PS/2 Keyboard is disabled. Then power is turned 
off on the system. Turn power back on, hit the space bar, and the system 
comes back up. Grub-legacy shows its menu and I select the partition 
that was running and that has 'resume=LABEL=6Y080P0.05'. That loads 
everything from the swap space and resumes.


I have not tried other keys, but next time around I will.

I have not asked Asus because I am afraid they will ask what version 
windows I have installed.


This mobo has a weird feature: you can select 'express gate' and get 
access to a linux O/S that gets you access to "the internet and skype". 
I have it disabled and never have tried that.


Hugo


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Re: [OT] BIOS Power On by PS/2 Keyboard

2011-07-23 Thread Camaleón
On Sat, 23 Jul 2011 09:20:22 -0500, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote:

(...)

> APM configuration has an item "Power On by PS/2 Keyboard" that I had set
> to "space bar". But I was getting errors on my keyboard. So I bought a
> new keyboard, which had exactly the same errors, so the problem was not
> the keyboard.
> 
> So I disabled that feature.
> 
> Now what has me stumped is that even though "Power on by PS/2 Keyboard"
> is disabled, I can still power on the system by hitting the space bar
> twice. And it seems that the keyboard errors have disappeared.
> 
> Anyone venture an explanation?

You mean that although you have that option turned off in the BIOS you 
can still start your computer -from a cold state, not from suspension nor 
hibernation- when you hit the space bar? And just the space bar or any 
key?

It could be a BIOS problem, then. Have you contacted Asus for this?

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Re: [OT] BIOS Power On by PS/2 Keyboard

2011-07-23 Thread lee
Hugo Vanwoerkom  writes:

> Now what has me stumped is that even though "Power on by PS/2
> Keyboard" is disabled, I can still power on the system by hitting the
> space bar twice. And it seems that the keyboard errors have
> disappeared.

Well, I consider a mainboard that does this as broken.  What if the cat
runs over the keyboard ...


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