Re: [OT] Debian + Virtualization > Sharing Experiences
On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 08:42:37AM -0300, Leandro Quibem Magnabosco wrote: > Alex Samad escreveu: > >I have used vmware player, server + esx, virtualbox > > > >I like virtualbox - but from the virtualbox repo not the debian repo > > > Interesting tip. Could you tell me more about why you prefer the > virtualbox repo instead of debian's? there are some things that VB haven't opensourced they are available through their repo > > >why is your server not capable of handle the 5 - changing vm software > >might not get around that limitation ! > > It is capable, I don't think I said the other way around. > What I am interested in is learning from other's experiences when it > comes to >5VMs at the same machine using Debian, that's all. > > signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: [OT] Debian + Virtualization > Sharing Experiences
Nick Adie escreveu: Hi I installed VMWare Server (HowtoForge for info) on Debian 5. I run the following environments on it: Debian 4 Debian 5 Windows XP Windows Vista Windows 7 Windows 2000 Server Windows 2003 Server Windows 2008 Server All images transfered from a Workstation Environment. A little slow to start but once running, they are a dream. Regards Nick Thanks a bunch, Nick. Even tho not so detailed, those are exactly the kind of experience reports I was looking for. Thank you! -- Leandro Quibem Magnabosco. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: [OT] Debian + Virtualization > Sharing Experiences
Hi I installed VMWare Server (HowtoForge for info) on Debian 5. I run the following environments on it: Debian 4 Debian 5 Windows XP Windows Vista Windows 7 Windows 2000 Server Windows 2003 Server Windows 2008 Server All images transfered from a Workstation Environment. A little slow to start but once running, they are a dream. Regards Nick On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 2:48 PM, Leandro Quibem Magnabosco < leandro.magnabo...@fcdl-sc.org.br> wrote: > Hello, > > Maybe this isn't OffTopic, but I added [OT] tag just in case. > > I am in charge of installing 5 VMs - Linux[2] + FreeBSD + Windows + > PFSense. > I figured it would be better to have ESXi installed, but the server machine > is not compatible with it. > That said, I am searching for the best way to implement this without using > ESXi. > > I am not really experienced when it comes to virtualization, so I know I > could learn a lot from your advices. > > What would YOU do? > > Obviously, I will run Debian "under the hood", but what would you run on > top of it to support 5 VMs? > > Thank you for your time. > -- > Leandro Quibem Magnabosco. > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a > subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org > >
Re: [OT] Debian + Virtualization > Sharing Experiences
09/30/2009 04:01 PM, Leandro Quibem Magnabosco: Sadly there is nobody else sharing their experiences as I was wishing. Subscribe to the KVM mailing list directly. Same for Xen. -- Architecte Informatique chez Blueline/Gulfsat: Administration Systeme, Recherche & Developpement +261 34 29 155 34 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: [OT] Debian + Virtualization > Sharing Experiences
Rakotomandimby Mihamina escreveu: 09/30/2009 03:00 PM, Leandro Quibem Magnabosco: As far as I know, KVM is pretty new and only in 0.11.x version and 0.12.0 will probably only come in December According to me, version number means nothing. It's just a number. I agree, but I meant their features. Storage Live Migration and Guest SMP for KVM will be supported only on 0.12.0. This makes me a little insecure about it's stability. Have you tested KVM with 5 servers or more? I use it everyday in a 4 core/8G RAM supermicro server. I mostly run Ubuntu-server as host and windows (XP, Vista) as guest. We have 4 VM per host. My application would be a bit different, but that tells me *something* already. Sadly there is nobody else sharing their experiences as I was wishing. Thank you. -- Leandro Quibem Magnabosco. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: [OT] Debian + Virtualization > Sharing Experiences
09/30/2009 03:00 PM, Leandro Quibem Magnabosco: I am in charge of installing 5 VMs - Linux[2] + FreeBSD + Windows + PFSense. [...] What would YOU do? KVM http://wiki.debian.org/KVM As far as I know, KVM is pretty new and only in 0.11.x version and 0.12.0 will probably only come in December According to me, version number means nothing. It's just a number. This makes me a little insecure about it's stability. Have you tested KVM with 5 servers or more? I use it everyday in a 4 core/8G RAM supermicro server. I mostly run Ubuntu-server as host and windows (XP, Vista) as guest. We have 4 VM per host. -- Architecte Informatique chez Blueline/Gulfsat: Administration Systeme, Recherche & Developpement +261 34 29 155 34 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: [OT] Debian + Virtualization > Sharing Experiences
Rakotomandimby Mihamina escreveu: 09/28/2009 05:48 PM, Leandro Quibem Magnabosco: I am in charge of installing 5 VMs - Linux[2] + FreeBSD + Windows + PFSense. [...] What would YOU do? KVM http://wiki.debian.org/KVM As far as I know, KVM is pretty new and only in 0.11.x version and 0.12.0 will probably only come in December (http://www.mail-archive.com/k...@vger.kernel.org/msg22964.html). This makes me a little insecure about it's stability. Have you tested KVM with 5 servers or more? Thank you. -- Leandro Quibem Magnabosco. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: [OT] Debian + Virtualization > Sharing Experiences
09/28/2009 05:48 PM, Leandro Quibem Magnabosco: I am in charge of installing 5 VMs - Linux[2] + FreeBSD + Windows + PFSense. [...] What would YOU do? KVM http://wiki.debian.org/KVM -- Architecte Informatique chez Blueline/Gulfsat: Administration Systeme, Recherche & Developpement +261 34 29 155 34 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: [OT] Debian + Virtualization > Sharing Experiences
Alex Samad escreveu: I have used vmware player, server + esx, virtualbox I like virtualbox - but from the virtualbox repo not the debian repo Interesting tip. Could you tell me more about why you prefer the virtualbox repo instead of debian's? why is your server not capable of handle the 5 - changing vm software might not get around that limitation ! It is capable, I don't think I said the other way around. What I am interested in is learning from other's experiences when it comes to >5VMs at the same machine using Debian, that's all. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: [OT] Debian + Virtualization > Sharing Experiences
On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 11:48:48AM -0300, Leandro Quibem Magnabosco wrote: > Hello, > > Maybe this isn't OffTopic, but I added [OT] tag just in case. > > I am in charge of installing 5 VMs - Linux[2] + FreeBSD + Windows + PFSense. > I figured it would be better to have ESXi installed, but the server > machine is not compatible with it. > That said, I am searching for the best way to implement this without > using ESXi. > > I am not really experienced when it comes to virtualization, so I > know I could learn a lot from your advices. > > What would YOU do? I have used vmware player, server + esx, virtualbox I like virtualbox - but from the virtualbox repo not the debian repo why is your server not capable of handle the 5 - changing vm software might not get around that limitation ! > > Obviously, I will run Debian "under the hood", but what would you > run on top of it to support 5 VMs? > > Thank you for your time. -- "And so during these holiday seasons, we thank our blessings." - George W. Bush 12/10/2004 Fort Belvoir, VA signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: [OT] Debian + Virtualization > Sharing Experiences
> Hello, > > Maybe this isn't OffTopic, but I added [OT] tag just in case. > > I am in charge of installing 5 VMs - Linux[2] + FreeBSD + Windows + > PFSense. > I figured it would be better to have ESXi installed, but the server > machine is not compatible with it. > That said, I am searching for the best way to implement this without > using ESXi. > > I am not really experienced when it comes to virtualization, so I know I > could learn a lot from your advices. > > What would YOU do? > > Obviously, I will run Debian "under the hood", but what would you run on > top of it to support 5 VMs? > You can achieve your goals with a lot of virtualisation technologies. On questions like this you will get several answers from different people that they are fully satisfied with their solutions. (Xen, KVM, Virtualbox and and and) For myself I use Xen, KVM and VMWare Server. All three have disadvantages but they work great for me and my servers. For me Xen is the most reliable and feature rich technology but the Linux kernel folks do not like the code. KVM might be the shooting star in the Linux Kernel world, but I think it is a bit new and misses some feature Xen already has. VMWare Server has a higher demand on hardware but easier to setup. (But has an awfully bad JAVA Webapp for administration (IMHO) ). Michael -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: [OT] Debian + Virtualization > Sharing Experiences
Leandro Quibem Magnabosco 写道: Hello, Maybe this isn't OffTopic, but I added [OT] tag just in case. I am in charge of installing 5 VMs - Linux[2] + FreeBSD + Windows + PFSense. I figured it would be better to have ESXi installed, but the server machine is not compatible with it. That said, I am searching for the best way to implement this without using ESXi. I am not really experienced when it comes to virtualization, so I know I could learn a lot from your advices. What would YOU do? Obviously, I will run Debian "under the hood", but what would you run on top of it to support 5 VMs? Thank you for your time. -- Leandro Quibem Magnabosco. VirtualBox may be one of your choice. It's totally free. And I'm using it. Win and Freebsd both work for me. Just pay attention the network card configuration to meet your requirement. But if you want it for commercial use, I don't know if it's stable enough. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org