Re: [OT] Re: workforce 645 printer can't find other network assets (SOLVED SORT OF)
On 09/14/2012 09:19 AM, Camaleón wrote: On Thu, 13 Sep 2012 22:20:30 -0700, Gary Roach wrote: On 09/13/2012 08:58 AM, Camaleón wrote: (...) Next time, instead giving your money to Epson that shows no interest in Linux, consider twice another alternatives (HP has a nice job here ;-) ) I gave up. I took the Epson back an traded it in for an HP Office Jet Pro 8600. Ouch... I didn't want to sound that contundent O:-) But you know what? Well done. That's the only way Epson (or any other manufacturer that claims not supporting Linux) will learn the lesson. I've had minimal trouble installing the thing on both Linux and XP systems. Everything works. I still can't get the Win2K system to work. Does anyone know where you can get print drivers for this. I have the HP 8600 and my XP laptop connected wireless to the router. All other systems are etherneted. The Win2K system can't seem to find the printer. Gary... Windows 2000 is now unsupported by Microsoft and hardware manufacturers do not usually provide drivers for Windows versions that have reached their Live Cycle. Actually, I found a driver for the Win2K system on the HP web site. It works for printing which is all I really want for that machine. But (as always :-P) Google provides a hint you can try: http://h30434.www3.hp.com/t5/Printer-Networking-and-Wireless/i-need-an-hp-officejet-pro-8600-printer-driver-for-win2000/td-p/1836087 Thank you all for your support. You're welcome. Greteings, The last post for this subject. Be advised that the Officejet Pro 8600 works great and was easy to set up on all of my systems. I had to download a linux driver from HP's web site but it was easy to find and easy to install. Two glitches. The paper feed won't work with Staples Photo paper. It works with Epson and HP paper fine. Doing the droop test over the edge of a table showed that the Saples paper is about twice as stiff as the others. There is a spring loaded deflector in the paper path that is supposed to deflect the paper upward as it comes out of the tray. The stiffer paper won't make the bend. The other problem has to do with network recognition and is probably a Samba problem. I'm starting a new thread for that one. See you all and thanks. Gary R. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/50555768.8060...@verizon.net
Re: [OT] Re: workforce 645 printer can't find other network assets (SOLVED SORT OF)
On 09/13/2012 08:58 AM, Camaleón wrote: On Wed, 12 Sep 2012 13:14:09 -0700, Gary Roach wrote: OK. Lets start over. Configuration: 1. Epson Workforce 645 All in one 2. Network mix of hardwired Win2K and linux computers and an XP wireless. All with fixed IP addresses. 3. 645 now hardwired to router. Fixed IP address set in router and 645. 4. Router - Actiontec M1424-WR plus Cisco extention switch (Lan to Lan connection). I have locked in most of the IP addresses for my usual hardware but still have the capability to use DHCP for new stuff. Perfect. Software 1. XP loaded with Epson drivers and Epson Event Manager from CD supplied with 645. 2. Linux machines: 2.1 A mix of Debian Squeeze and Wheezy systems. 2.2 Samba and Cups installed (and configured?). 2.3 iscan_2.29.1-5-usb0.1.ltd1.7_i386.deb and iscan- dat_1.17.0-2_all.deb installed with dpkg. 2.4 Xsane, sane and gimp installed According to the Epson FAQ, you have now the right packages installed: http://download.ebz.epson.net/faq/linux/faq_ls_2.html (note that you may also want to install the network and image processing plugins) Performance: All computers with the exception of the Win2k print to the printer. All of the print functions seem to work. The exception being the ink level indicators that don't show on the Linux machines. Remote FAX not checked. I don't care. The copier works fine. The scan control from the XP works fine. Okay, so printing form Debian works, you only miss the information to get the ink levels, right? Epson provides a manual for the printer and a list of Linux FAQS, maybe you can find something of interest there: http://download.ebz.epson.net/man/linux/escp.html http://download.ebz.epson.net/faq/linux/ Sadly, Epson explicitely says that they do not support the linux software (sigh). Problems: 1.1. When attempting to scan a document from Linux, Xsane produces the error: Failed to start scanner: Error during device I/O. At this point, the document is run through the scanner but no scan is produced. Does your Xsane version support this device? In addition, if Epson has a dedicated tool for this, e.g., iscan to obtain the images from the scanner, try with it. 1.2. When Xsane is purged from the system and sane's scanadf or scanimage is used, I get the error: Could not send command to scanner. Check the scanners's status. This same error occurs if iscan is run through gimp. The scanners control panel reads: Communication Error. Check the printer connection and try again. Run iscan from command line and as root user to discard a problem with the permissions. Also, as you have connected the AIO using an ethernet cable, the corresponding network plugin package may be needed so the device can be properly detected by your system. 2.1 The 645 still can't see any of the Linux systems on the consoles readout when the Scan to PC mode is chosen. I can probably live with this but an office of any size would be seriously inconvenienced. I think this problem may be caused by Epson's Event Manager software. I found at least one instance on the net where someone was complaining about the quirky nature of this piece on drech. This can be the same problem that you experience when you try to communicate with the AIO scanner from Debian and get a communication error. Installing the network plugin could also help with this :-? Editorial: The Event Manager seems to be designed to freeze Linux/Unix out of the market and to rid the user base of older Microsoft products. If I were a real suspicious person I would see Microsofts hand in this. Of course if that's true then Epson's management is a bunch of idiots. Microsofts own management says that they loose about 20% of sales to piracy, 10% to Linux and about 5% to Apple. That means that Epson is throwing away about 10% of their business in this Workforce line by poor support. Stupid. Next time, instead giving your money to Epson that shows no interest in Linux, consider twice another alternatives (HP has a nice job here ;-) ) Greetings, I gave up. I took the Epson back an traded it in for an HP Office Jet Pro 8600. I've had minimal trouble installing the thing on both Linux and XP systems. Everything works. I still can't get the Win2K system to work. Does anyone know where you can get print drivers for this. I have the HP 8600 and my XP laptop connected wireless to the router. All other systems are etherneted. The Win2K system can't seem to find the printer. Thank you all for your support. Gary R. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/5052be9e.3080...@verizon.net
RE: [OT] Re: workforce 645 printer can't find other network assets (SOLVED SORT OF)
Hi Gary, Not really Debian related anymore but here is a quick answer. I gave up. I took the Epson back an traded it in for an HP Office Jet Pro 8600. I've had minimal trouble installing the thing on both Linux and XP systems. Everything works. I still can't get the Win2K system to work. Does anyone know where you can get print drivers for this. I have the HP 8600 and my XP laptop connected wireless to the router. All other systems are etherneted. The Win2K system can't seem to find the printer. Find the ip-number for the printer, add a LOCAL printer manually in Win2k and create a new port, a standard tcp/ip-port. Enter the ip-number. Now the fun part starts, finding a printer driver as the Win2k driver model is different from WinXP. WinXP could still use older Win2k driver but that is no help to you now. Look for a black and white printer using just PCL and print a test page. Try that first and if it works go for a color printer using PCL. According to the HP site you printer speaks HP PCL 3 GUI and HP PCL 3 Enhanced Bonno Bloksma -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/89d1798a7351d040b4e74e0a043c69d70f03e...@hglexch-01.tio.nl
Re: [OT] Re: workforce 645 printer can't find other network assets (SOLVED SORT OF)
On Thu, 13 Sep 2012 22:20:30 -0700, Gary Roach wrote: On 09/13/2012 08:58 AM, Camaleón wrote: (...) Next time, instead giving your money to Epson that shows no interest in Linux, consider twice another alternatives (HP has a nice job here ;-) ) I gave up. I took the Epson back an traded it in for an HP Office Jet Pro 8600. Ouch... I didn't want to sound that contundent O:-) But you know what? Well done. That's the only way Epson (or any other manufacturer that claims not supporting Linux) will learn the lesson. I've had minimal trouble installing the thing on both Linux and XP systems. Everything works. I still can't get the Win2K system to work. Does anyone know where you can get print drivers for this. I have the HP 8600 and my XP laptop connected wireless to the router. All other systems are etherneted. The Win2K system can't seem to find the printer. Gary... Windows 2000 is now unsupported by Microsoft and hardware manufacturers do not usually provide drivers for Windows versions that have reached their Live Cycle. But (as always :-P) Google provides a hint you can try: http://h30434.www3.hp.com/t5/Printer-Networking-and-Wireless/i-need-an-hp-officejet-pro-8600-printer-driver-for-win2000/td-p/1836087 Thank you all for your support. You're welcome. Greteings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/k2vlf8$4lj$6...@ger.gmane.org
Re: [OT] Re: workforce 645 printer can't find other network assets
On Wed, 12 Sep 2012 13:14:09 -0700, Gary Roach wrote: OK. Lets start over. Configuration: 1. Epson Workforce 645 All in one 2. Network mix of hardwired Win2K and linux computers and an XP wireless. All with fixed IP addresses. 3. 645 now hardwired to router. Fixed IP address set in router and 645. 4. Router - Actiontec M1424-WR plus Cisco extention switch (Lan to Lan connection). I have locked in most of the IP addresses for my usual hardware but still have the capability to use DHCP for new stuff. Perfect. Software 1. XP loaded with Epson drivers and Epson Event Manager from CD supplied with 645. 2. Linux machines: 2.1 A mix of Debian Squeeze and Wheezy systems. 2.2 Samba and Cups installed (and configured?). 2.3 iscan_2.29.1-5-usb0.1.ltd1.7_i386.deb and iscan- dat_1.17.0-2_all.deb installed with dpkg. 2.4 Xsane, sane and gimp installed According to the Epson FAQ, you have now the right packages installed: http://download.ebz.epson.net/faq/linux/faq_ls_2.html (note that you may also want to install the network and image processing plugins) Performance: All computers with the exception of the Win2k print to the printer. All of the print functions seem to work. The exception being the ink level indicators that don't show on the Linux machines. Remote FAX not checked. I don't care. The copier works fine. The scan control from the XP works fine. Okay, so printing form Debian works, you only miss the information to get the ink levels, right? Epson provides a manual for the printer and a list of Linux FAQS, maybe you can find something of interest there: http://download.ebz.epson.net/man/linux/escp.html http://download.ebz.epson.net/faq/linux/ Sadly, Epson explicitely says that they do not support the linux software (sigh). Problems: 1.1. When attempting to scan a document from Linux, Xsane produces the error: Failed to start scanner: Error during device I/O. At this point, the document is run through the scanner but no scan is produced. Does your Xsane version support this device? In addition, if Epson has a dedicated tool for this, e.g., iscan to obtain the images from the scanner, try with it. 1.2. When Xsane is purged from the system and sane's scanadf or scanimage is used, I get the error: Could not send command to scanner. Check the scanners's status. This same error occurs if iscan is run through gimp. The scanners control panel reads: Communication Error. Check the printer connection and try again. Run iscan from command line and as root user to discard a problem with the permissions. Also, as you have connected the AIO using an ethernet cable, the corresponding network plugin package may be needed so the device can be properly detected by your system. 2.1 The 645 still can't see any of the Linux systems on the consoles readout when the Scan to PC mode is chosen. I can probably live with this but an office of any size would be seriously inconvenienced. I think this problem may be caused by Epson's Event Manager software. I found at least one instance on the net where someone was complaining about the quirky nature of this piece on drech. This can be the same problem that you experience when you try to communicate with the AIO scanner from Debian and get a communication error. Installing the network plugin could also help with this :-? Editorial: The Event Manager seems to be designed to freeze Linux/Unix out of the market and to rid the user base of older Microsoft products. If I were a real suspicious person I would see Microsofts hand in this. Of course if that's true then Epson's management is a bunch of idiots. Microsofts own management says that they loose about 20% of sales to piracy, 10% to Linux and about 5% to Apple. That means that Epson is throwing away about 10% of their business in this Workforce line by poor support. Stupid. Next time, instead giving your money to Epson that shows no interest in Linux, consider twice another alternatives (HP has a nice job here ;-) ) Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/k2svrm$jks$8...@ger.gmane.org
Re: [OT] Re: workforce 645 printer can't find other network assets
On Tue, 11 Sep 2012 12:38:50 -0700, Gary Roach wrote: On 09/11/2012 09:34 AM, Camaleón wrote: I went through the info you gave me and have installed the epson-inkjet-printer-201106w_1.0.1-1lsb3.2_i386.deb driver file. I also have Xsane installed. I still get Failed to start scanner: Error during device I/O errors. My XP handles the scanner fine. I don't know where that deb file comes from but it looks for the printer not the scanner. Anyway, did you read the mentioned forum post? I read the posts. Mmm... maybe, but either you read it too fast or simply overlooked the one I indicated :-P (hint: the interesting part of the forum thread starts at post #9) The deb file came directly from Epson. It was listed as the driver for the Workforce 645 printer. I assume that the scanner driver should be included. Maybe not? (...) That file is for the printer and I guess you got it from OpenPrinting but you need the Epson packages to get all functions of the AIO running. (hint: Epson provides two .deb packages directly from their site) And I already gave you some hints (yes, also for this :-P): http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2012/09/msg00472.html 1. I checked the router. The instructions say that the router is setup to allow wireless printing. I don't know why it means wireless printing for the router context. In addition, my XP wireless works fine for print and scan. It also shows up on the scan control console. But IIRC, you said none of the computer clients were able to be detected from the the device itself, is this still true? Is any of your computers detected from the Epson AIO? 2. I ran the network connection test from the scan console. I shows everything OK. So you press the test button and the result is OK! and that's all? :-? 3. I will run the ethernet test asap. I am having severe back pain at present and really don't want to crawl around under the computer table. I'll see if I can't patch it from the top. I'lll be back with this. Okay, it would be interesting to know if using an ethernet cable the AIO device can properly see the clients from its panel. 4. All printing from all computers ( Win2k accepted) works fine. I haven’t checked the fax functions yet. The ink level indicator never seems to work but not worth fooling with. Okay. For the rest of the functions I guess you will have to make use of the Epson provided set of tools. Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/k2q761$3v1$1...@ger.gmane.org
Re: [OT] Re: workforce 645 printer can't find other network assets
OK. Lets start over. Configuration: 1. Epson Workforce 645 All in one 2. Network mix of hardwired Win2K and linux computers and an XP wireless. All with fixed IP addresses. 3. 645 now hardwired to router. Fixed IP address set in router and 645. 4. Router - Actiontec M1424-WR plus Cisco extention switch (Lan to Lan connection). I have locked in most of the IP addresses for my usual hardware but still have the capability to use DHCP for new stuff. Software 1. XP loaded with Epson drivers and Epson Event Manager from CD supplied with 645. 2. Linux machines: 2.1 A mix of Debian Squeeze and Wheezy systems. 2.2 Samba and Cups installed (and configured?). 2.3 iscan_2.29.1-5-usb0.1.ltd1.7_i386.deb and iscan-dat_1.17.0-2_all.deb installed with dpkg. 2.4 Xsane, sane and gimp installed Performance: All computers with the exception of the Win2k print to the printer. All of the print functions seem to work. The exception being the ink level indicators that don't show on the Linux machines. Remote FAX not checked. I don't care. The copier works fine. The scan control from the XP works fine. Problems: 1.1. When attempting to scan a document from Linux, Xsane produces the error: Failed to start scanner: Error during device I/O. At this point, the document is run through the scanner but no scan is produced. 1.2. When Xsane is purged from the system and sane's scanadf or scanimage is used, I get the error: Could not send command to scanner. Check the scanners's status. This same error occurs if iscan is run through gimp. The scanners control panel reads: Communication Error. Check the printer connection and try again. 2.1 The 645 still can't see any of the Linux systems on the consoles readout when the Scan to PC mode is chosen. I can probably live with this but an office of any size would be seriously inconvenienced. I think this problem may be caused by Epson's Event Manager software. I found at least one instance on the net where someone was complaining about the quirky nature of this piece on drech. Editorial: The Event Manager seems to be designed to freeze Linux/Unix out of the market and to rid the user base of older Microsoft products. If I were a real suspicious person I would see Microsofts hand in this. Of course if that's true then Epson's management is a bunch of idiots. Microsofts own management says that they loose about 20% of sales to piracy, 10% to Linux and about 5% to Apple. That means that Epson is throwing away about 10% of their business in this Workforce line by poor support. Stupid. Request: Help me get Xsane or its equal to work . Any light shed on the console listing problem might be icing on the cake but would be appreciated. Sincerely Gary R. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/5050ed11.30...@verizon.net
Re: [OT] Re: workforce 645 printer can't find other network assets
El 2012-09-11 a las 09:26 -0700, Gary Roach escribió: (please, reply to the list) On 09/11/2012 07:24 AM, Camaleón wrote: On Mon, 10 Sep 2012 11:02:42 -0700, Gary Roach wrote: Earlier I was complaining about Xsine not working with this new printer but the main problem seems to be that the printer doesn't see any of the computers on the hardwired network. (...) I already gave you some hints about this, did you try them? I went through the info you gave me and have installed the epson-inkjet-printer-201106w_1.0.1-1lsb3.2_i386.deb driver file. I also have Xsane installed. I still get Failed to start scanner: Error during device I/O errors. My XP handles the scanner fine. I don't know where that deb file comes from but it looks for the printer not the scanner. Anyway, did you read the mentioned forum post? I am concentrating on the scanners inability to find the hardwired (LInux) computers because this is an obvious problem that must be fixed. This problem shows up when one tries to use the printers control panel to scan and then send the PDF files to a particular computer on the net. Again, this works with my wireless XP but none of the hardwired computers. I am assuming that it is a Samba setup problem. And I already gave you some hints (yes, also for this :-P): http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2012/09/msg00472.html Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120911163400.ga7...@stt008.linux.site
Re: [OT] Re: workforce 645 printer can't find other network assets
On 09/11/2012 09:34 AM, Camaleón wrote: El 2012-09-11 a las 09:26 -0700, Gary Roach escribió: (please, reply to the list) Sorry. I'll be more careful in the future. On 09/11/2012 07:24 AM, Camaleón wrote: On Mon, 10 Sep 2012 11:02:42 -0700, Gary Roach wrote: Earlier I was complaining about Xsine not working with this new printer but the main problem seems to be that the printer doesn't see any of the computers on the hardwired network. (...) I already gave you some hints about this, did you try them? I went through the info you gave me and have installed the epson-inkjet-printer-201106w_1.0.1-1lsb3.2_i386.deb driver file. I also have Xsane installed. I still get Failed to start scanner: Error during device I/O errors. My XP handles the scanner fine. I don't know where that deb file comes from but it looks for the printer not the scanner. Anyway, did you read the mentioned forum post? I read the posts. The deb file came directly from Epson. It was listed as the driver for the Workforce 645 printer. I assume that the scanner driver should be included. Maybe not? I am concentrating on the scanners inability to find the hardwired (LInux) computers because this is an obvious problem that must be fixed. This problem shows up when one tries to use the printers control panel to scan and then send the PDF files to a particular computer on the net. Again, this works with my wireless XP but none of the hardwired computers. I am assuming that it is a Samba setup problem. And I already gave you some hints (yes, also for this :-P): http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2012/09/msg00472.html Greetings, 1. I checked the router. The instructions say that the router is setup to allow wireless printing. In addition, my XP wireless works fine for print and scan. It also shows up on the scan control console. 2. I ran the network connection test from the scan console. I shows everything OK. 3. I will run the ethernet test asap. I am having severe back pain at present and really don't want to crawl around under the computer table. I'll see if I can't patch it from the top. I'lll be back with this. 4. All printing from all computers ( Win2k accepted) works fine. I haven’t checked the fax functions yet. The ink level indicator never seems to work but not worth fooling with. Gary R. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/504f934a.5010...@verizon.net
Re: [OT] Re: workforce 645 printer can't find other network assets
On 09/11/2012 03:38 PM, Gary Roach wrote: 1. I checked the router. The instructions say that the router is setup to allow wireless printing. In addition, my XP wireless works fine for print and scan. It also shows up on the scan control console. 2. I ran the network connection test from the scan console. I shows everything OK. 3. I will run the ethernet test asap. I am having severe back pain at present and really don't want to crawl around under the computer table. I'll see if I can't patch it from the top. I'lll be back with this. 4. All printing from all computers ( Win2k accepted) works fine. I haven’t checked the fax functions yet. The ink level indicator never seems to work but not worth fooling with. Gary R. A router routes Ethernet--it doesn't care if it's Internet, or printer, or scanner, or anything else--all it knows are ones and zeros in the Ethernet format. --doug -- Blessed are the peacekeepers...for they shall be shot at from both sides. --A.M. Greeley -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/504fd87a.60...@optonline.net
