Re: (No Subject)

[Ric Moore]

On 12/11/18 3:45 PM, md wrote:

md wrote:
Using an old PATA-to-USB cable, I attached a 15 year old PATA DVD Drive 


It's better to include a subject so others can reference your problem 
and it's possible resolution in the future. Otherwise someone has to 
devote their time only to you. This ain't a windows crowd here. Ric

Re: CUPS problem on Jessie was Re: (no subject)

[Cindy-Sue Causey]

On 10/25/16, Norbert Kiszka  wrote:
>>
>> On Tuesday 25 October 2016 08:06:02 Alan Hutchinson wrote:
>> > Hi people just a small note to tell you that, I am having a problem in
>> > Debian 8 Jessie ,I have bean trying to run cups.service and it just
>> > wont
>> > run, when using system d, and I type systemctl start cups.service, I
>> > get
>> > the error
>> >
>> > Process:400 Execstart=/usr/sbin/cupsd -f (code=killed,signal=term)
>> >
>> > Main Pid:400 (code=killed,signal=term man 7 signal
>> >
>> > what do I have to read up on to get my cups.service up and running
>> > againe
>>
>
> Any logs in /var/log/dmesg or /var/log/messages after 'systemctl start
> cups.service'?


I wasn't paying full attention, basically blanked out as soon as I saw
"CUPS" (that I don't use), but your thought here triggered memory of
something I just learned while (still) battling wifi setup:

systemctl status cups.service

At least in my case, that also provides some instant feedback in
addition to the already mentioned logs.

Hope that helps someone somewhere some day. :)

Cindy :)

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Re: CUPS problem on Jessie was Re: (no subject)

[Norbert Kiszka]

Dnia 2016-10-25, wto o godzinie 12:37 +0100, Lisi Reisz pisze:
> Replying  to give this a subject.
> Lisi
> 
> On Tuesday 25 October 2016 08:06:02 Alan Hutchinson wrote:
> > --
> > Alan Hutchinson
> > Hi people just a small note to tell you that, I am having a problem in
> > Debian 8 Jessie ,I have bean trying to run cups.service and it just wont
> > run, when using system d, and I type systemctl start cups.service, I get
> > the error
> >
> > Process:400 Execstart=/usr/sbin/cupsd -f (code=killed,signal=term)
> >
> > Main Pid:400 (code=killed,signal=term man 7 signal
> >
> > what do I have to read up on to get my cups.service up and running againe
> 

Any logs in /var/log/dmesg or /var/log/messages after 'systemctl start 
cups.service'?

CUPS problem on Jessie was Re: (no subject)

[Lisi Reisz]

Replying  to give this a subject.
Lisi

On Tuesday 25 October 2016 08:06:02 Alan Hutchinson wrote:
> --
> Alan Hutchinson
> Hi people just a small note to tell you that, I am having a problem in
> Debian 8 Jessie ,I have bean trying to run cups.service and it just wont
> run, when using system d, and I type systemctl start cups.service, I get
> the error
>
> Process:400 Execstart=/usr/sbin/cupsd -f (code=killed,signal=term)
>
> Main Pid:400 (code=killed,signal=term man 7 signal
>
> what do I have to read up on to get my cups.service up and running againe

Re: (no subject)

[Jude DaShiell]

Maybe usbmount package might help you out.

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Re: No Subject for digest

[Indulekha]

On Fri, May 04, 2012 at 05:05:06PM +, Camaleón wrote:
> 
> I don't use "digest" but that sounds like something is messed up.
> 
> You can contact the mailing list admins/manintainers as stated here:
> 
> http://www.debian.org/MailingLists/index.en.html#maintenance
> 

Several times I got caught by this on other mailing lists, it seems the 
digest option is never properly interactive. Some kind of perverse 
tradition, I guess

To the OP, switch to a regular subscription and the problem is solved 
(or, resign yourself to receiving what is essentially a RO version 
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[Camaleón]

On Fri, 04 May 2012 10:21:41 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote:

> I don't have the time to read all mails at the moment. Is this issue
> already known:
> 
> On Fri, 2012-05-04 at 08:24 +0200, an unknown sender wrote:
>> debian-user-digest DigestVolume 2012 : Issue 718
>> 
>> Today's Topics:
>> Unidentified subject! [  ] 
>> Unidentified subject! [  ] 
>> Unidentified subject! [  ]   
>> Unidentified subject! [  ] 
>> Unidentified subject! [  ] 
>> Unidentified subject! [  ]
> 
> The headers of the mails are at the bottoms of the emails bodies.

I don't use "digest" but that sounds like something is messed up.

You can contact the mailing list admins/manintainers as stated here:

http://www.debian.org/MailingLists/index.en.html#maintenance

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Re: No subject

[Camaleón]

On Thu, 19 May 2011 04:11:08 +, annathemermaid wrote:

(this message got unthreatened, maybe because of the subject change?)

> Errr... why don't you just open a normal xterm and then type "su" at the
> prompt. It should ask you for the root password, which you can then type
> in, press enter, and viola! Terminal with root privileges.

(...)

Better use "su -" (login shell) or even "gksu/kdesu" to run GUI based 
apps.
 
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Re: (no subject)

[Charlie]

On Tue, 25 Jan 2011 07:38:52 -0500 Petrus Validus
 shared this with us all:

>On Tue, 2011-01-25 at 16:43 +0500, ktauhidu wrote:
>> Good day! I have a laptop Acer Aspire 5520g on it does not work the
>> microphone. Tell me how to fix the problem. 
>
>How about you tell us more information first.  What have you done to
>fix the problem?  Do you have any error messages to report?
>
>Also, not to be a jerk but demanding answers from people on this list
>(or other technical lists) isn't going to get you too far.  We're not
>here to do your homework for you.
>

It's always tricky when someone who doesn't have a good command of a
language, attempts to get answers on a mailing list on a language they
don't know well. They do tend to use less words to make less mistakes,
and the email reads a bit abrupt, even rude or demanding.

I assume they post to an unfamiliar mailing list because they can't get
the answers, or don't have a mailing list on that subject in their own
language. Because of the language difficulty don't read the list
nettiquette or anything else, just hoping that someone will understand
their need. [laughing] Just goes to show that most of us are very lucky
in one way or another.

Be well,
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Re: (no subject)

[Sjoerd Hardeman]

Petrus Validus schreef:

On Tue, 2011-01-25 at 16:43 +0500, ktauhidu wrote:

Good day! I have a laptop Acer Aspire 5520g on it does not work the
microphone. Tell me how to fix the problem. 


How about you tell us more information first.  What have you done to fix
the problem?  Do you have any error messages to report?

Also, not to be a jerk but demanding answers from people on this list
(or other technical lists) isn't going to get you too far.  We're not
here to do your homework for you.


And finally, never underestimate the value of a proper subject-line.



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[Petrus Validus]

On Tue, 2011-01-25 at 16:43 +0500, ktauhidu wrote:
> Good day! I have a laptop Acer Aspire 5520g on it does not work the
> microphone. Tell me how to fix the problem. 

How about you tell us more information first.  What have you done to fix
the problem?  Do you have any error messages to report?

Also, not to be a jerk but demanding answers from people on this list
(or other technical lists) isn't going to get you too far.  We're not
here to do your homework for you.

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Re: (no subject)

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> On Sun, Feb 10, 2008 at 11:55:12AM -0800, Paul Johnson wrote:
>> On Feb 10, 2008 8:16 AM, Paul Dransfield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>> This installation cuts out my CPU fan, therefore the installation cannot
>>> complete
>> You may find you receive better answers if you can ask a complete and
>> intelligently worded question.
>> http://catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
> 
> And if you read the installation manual which would give you the form to
> fill out and where to send it so that your questions get answered by
> people who use the installer frequently.  On Debian, you only need to
> run the installer when you build a new hardware box.

Hah!!!  Last month I built a new system and simply carried "hda"
across to the new system.  Took a bit of pre-planning to ensure that
the kernel was SMP, knew about the new drivers as well as the old,
and persistent_rules needed a little fiddling with, but other than
that, it was a smooth transfer.  Of course, it helped that the old
and new systems both were AMD with NVIDIA video cards...

Still, I've seen my Uncle hose Windows systems doing something
similar, because Windows so often needs external drivers.

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[Douglas A. Tutty]

On Sun, Feb 10, 2008 at 11:55:12AM -0800, Paul Johnson wrote:
> On Feb 10, 2008 8:16 AM, Paul Dransfield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > This installation cuts out my CPU fan, therefore the installation cannot
> > complete
> 
> You may find you receive better answers if you can ask a complete and
> intelligently worded question.
> http://catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html

And if you read the installation manual which would give you the form to
fill out and where to send it so that your questions get answered by
people who use the installer frequently.  On Debian, you only need to
run the installer when you build a new hardware box.

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[Paul Johnson]

On Feb 10, 2008 8:16 AM, Paul Dransfield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> This installation cuts out my CPU fan, therefore the installation cannot
> complete

You may find you receive better answers if you can ask a complete and
intelligently worded question.
http://catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html

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[Roberto C. Sanchez]

On Thu, Oct 12, 2006 at 07:40:50PM +0100, Richard Jones wrote:
> I have just installed debian and am having problems login in. at the 
> login screen which should i be putting in, root password, user account, 
> user name or password. It has also timed out on me, can you please give 
> me some help as im new to linux
> 
> 
What login screen do you see?  When you installed the system, it should
have prompted you to create an unprivileged user account.  That is the
account you should be useing when you log in.

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[Cameron L. Spitzer]

[This message has also been posted to linux.debian.user.]
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Chris Humphries wrote:
> +--
>| On Thursday, Sep 21, 2006 at 03:51:36AM +, s. keeling wrote:
>| operator <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>| >  Could someone recommend a substitute for k3b?
>
> Do what k3b is doing manually (it just calls external programs to do
> it's work). That is what the text below is.

There's another thing k3b does.  It knows the squirrelly mappings
from the SunOS scsibus,target,lun or "portable"
devicename:scsibus,target,lun language in the cdrecord(1) man page
to the device names on the Linux systems people actually use.
On some distros, it (with KDE set up correctly underneath) knows
whether there is a Hardware Abstraction Layer and what names to
use so the right driver modules get loaded.

If you don't know all that stuff and you try to use cdrecord
directly, you either get lucky or cdrecord does not work.
It's nice that S. Keeling got lucky using /dev/hdd on his
particular system, but that device name will not always work.

It would be good if there were an organized "documentation"
someplace explaining to newbies what the difference between
/dev/hdd and /dev/scd are, and how to tell whether your installation
is using sg SCSI emulation or IDE-CD and how to get the automounter
to let go of the CD drive when the distro left it on by mistake,
and some of the other things that prevent cdrecord from "just working."
If it exists, I haven't found it.  I use k3b and xcdroast
because cdrecord doesn't always work by itself and I've never
been able to figure out why.

Cameron



> There are several scripts and things around that do various ways of 
> doing the things below, k3b is just a nice fancy gui for it instead.
>
> -Chris
>
>| 
>| mkisofs -R -o /scratch/iso/track_01.img \
>|-pad -allow-leading-dots -max-iso9660-filenames \
>|-r -relaxed-filenames /scratch/afio
>| 
>| Then:
>| 
>| cdrecord dev=/dev/hdd -eject \
>|-tao -data /scratch/iso/track_01.img


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+--
| On Thursday, Sep 21, 2006 at 03:51:36AM +, s. keeling wrote:
| 
| To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
| From: "s. keeling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
| Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2006 03:51:36 GMT
| Subject: Re: (no subject)
| 
| operator <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
| > 
| >  Could someone recommend a substitute for k3b?

Do what k3b is doing manually (it just calls external programs to do
it's work). That is what the text below is.

There are several scripts and things around that do various ways of 
doing the things below, k3b is just a nice fancy gui for it instead.

-Chris

| 
| Consider learning how to create archives.  It's an opportunity to
| learn!  :-)  "tar" or "cpio" or "afio" (my favourite), then point
| mkisofs at the result, then point cdrecord at the result of that.
| This has worked well for me for years, over many versions of
| Linux/Unix.  Here's an example of how I use them.  You're welcome to a
| copy of the script I use.  Just ask.
| 
| I've built a shell script which creates afio archives with:
| 
| find /${f} -depth -mount | \
|egrep -v "`cat ${workdir}/tarX_${f}`" \
|| afio -Z -v -T 3k -o ${workdir}/${now}_${f}.afio \
|>  ${workdir}/${now}_${f}.log 2>&1
| 
| ${workdir}/tarX_${f} lists stuff you don't want backed up.
| 
| ${now} == $(date '+%Y%m%d')
| 
| ${f} == one of "root etc home var" (it's a loop variable).
| 
| Whatever the above command lands in ${workdir}, write to ISO image
| file:
| 
| mkisofs -R -o /scratch/iso/track_01.img \
|-pad -allow-leading-dots -max-iso9660-filenames \
|-r -relaxed-filenames /scratch/afio
| 
| Then:
| 
| cdrecord dev=/dev/hdd -eject \
|-tao -data /scratch/iso/track_01.img
| 
| No GUI required.  Full backup of a personal workstation, capable of
| restoring it after reinstall of OS, in only 18 minutes or so.
| 
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[s. keeling]

operator <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> 
>  Could someone recommend a substitute for k3b?

Consider learning how to create archives.  It's an opportunity to
learn!  :-)  "tar" or "cpio" or "afio" (my favourite), then point
mkisofs at the result, then point cdrecord at the result of that.
This has worked well for me for years, over many versions of
Linux/Unix.  Here's an example of how I use them.  You're welcome to a
copy of the script I use.  Just ask.

I've built a shell script which creates afio archives with:

find /${f} -depth -mount | \
   egrep -v "`cat ${workdir}/tarX_${f}`" \
   | afio -Z -v -T 3k -o ${workdir}/${now}_${f}.afio \
   >  ${workdir}/${now}_${f}.log 2>&1

${workdir}/tarX_${f} lists stuff you don't want backed up.

${now} == $(date '+%Y%m%d')

${f} == one of "root etc home var" (it's a loop variable).

Whatever the above command lands in ${workdir}, write to ISO image
file:

mkisofs -R -o /scratch/iso/track_01.img \
   -pad -allow-leading-dots -max-iso9660-filenames \
   -r -relaxed-filenames /scratch/afio

Then:

cdrecord dev=/dev/hdd -eject \
   -tao -data /scratch/iso/track_01.img

No GUI required.  Full backup of a personal workstation, capable of
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[David E. Fox]

On Thu, 21 Sep 2006 12:16:11 +1000
M-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


> Isn't cdrecord the reason that k3b doesn't work? I have found it so, because 
> cdrecord finds my external USB DVD dual layer burner and then vanishes it. 
> That was in Sarge, haven't tried it in Etch yet.

In my experience, I don't think the problem is with cdrecord - I've
used it extensively when k3b didn't work, or I didn't trust the
graphical tools - which all / most use cdrecord to do the actual
burning.

On the other hand, I haven't used cdrecord to write DDVs with on Debian
- I just use growisofs from the command line for that - with the
exception of using k3b from time to time to make dvd archives (backups).



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[Sebastian Ferrara]

El Thu, 21 Sep 2006 12:16:11 +1000
M-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> escribió:

> On Thursday 21 September 2006 11:52, David E. Fox shared this with us all:
> >--> cdrecord? :)
> >-->
> >--> Well, command line does work, but maybe it's not the best way to do it,
> >--> it depends on your experience level.
> 
> Isn't cdrecord the reason that k3b doesn't work? I have found it so, because 
> cdrecord finds my external USB DVD dual layer burner and then vanishes it. 
> That was in Sarge, haven't tried it in Etch yet.
> 
> XcdRoast finds and uses the burner and is fast. I am not certain if it uses 
> cdrecord? But Xcdroast won't burn DVD's without another application which 
> isn't free because it isn't in Debian.
> 

>From the X-CD-Roast's faq:

1. What is X-CD-Roast and who is working on it?

X-CD-Roast is a graphical user interface (GUI) for the command-line cdrtools. 
You can do anything X-CD-Roast does yourself using these tools - but it's nicer 
and easier with the frontend. The cdrtools contain "cdrecord" (does do the hard 
job supporting all the cdwriters and is doing the actual writing of CDs), 
"readcd" (reads data-tracks of CDs - its a portable replacement of "dd"), 
"mkisofs" (masters CD-/images from given file-trees on the harddisk) and 
"cdda2wav" (reads audio-tracks). Cdrecord, readcd and mkisofs are maintained by 
Joerg Schilling, cdda2wav by Heiko Eissfeldt and X-CD-Roast by me, Thomas 
Niederreiter. 

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[M-L]

On Thursday 21 September 2006 11:52, David E. Fox shared this with us all:
>--> cdrecord? :)
>-->
>--> Well, command line does work, but maybe it's not the best way to do it,
>--> it depends on your experience level.

Isn't cdrecord the reason that k3b doesn't work? I have found it so, because 
cdrecord finds my external USB DVD dual layer burner and then vanishes it. 
That was in Sarge, haven't tried it in Etch yet.

XcdRoast finds and uses the burner and is fast. I am not certain if it uses 
cdrecord? But Xcdroast won't burn DVD's without another application which 
isn't free because it isn't in Debian.

Such is life.

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On Tue, 19 Sep 2006 13:18:43 +
operator <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Could someone recommend a substitute for k3b?

cdrecord? :)

Well, command line does work, but maybe it's not the best way to do it,
it depends on your experience level.

>From experience, k3b is mostly working 100% of the time now, but that
wasn't always the case. I've used it (and other stuff) off and on for
about 2 years - but lately (I run Etch, by the way) k3b has been solid
enough to use for all my cd burning, even iso's (which are pretty easy
to do), mp3s, flacs, and so forth.

Others you might try include gcombust (gtk based), and cdbakeoven.
xcdroast is also there, but I find the interface pretty clunky.


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Mike McCarty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> operator wrote:
> > Could someone recommend a substitute for k3b?
> > Thank You
> 
> I've noticed a distressing increase in the number of e-mails here
> which request return receipts.
> 
> Mike

Maybe we should all send a return receipt, to original sender of
course :)

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operator wrote:

Could someone recommend a substitute for k3b?
Thank You


I've noticed a distressing increase in the number of e-mails here
which request return receipts.

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On 24.08.06 10:47, Brent Clark wrote:
> anyone know how to grep on a few files and search for ^$.
> 
> Im not looking for the empty line, I need a line that contains the 
> characters ^$.

grep -F '^$' 

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On 8/24/06, Brent Clark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Hi

anyone know how to grep on a few files and search for ^$.

Im not looking for the empty line, I need a line that contains the characters 
^$.


grep "\\^\\$" /var/log/testlog.log

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[Kim Christensen]

On 8/24/06, Brent Clark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Hi

anyone know how to grep on a few files and search for ^$.

Im not looking for the empty line, I need a line that contains the characters 
^$.


grep "\\^\\$" /var/log/testlog.log

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[Lubos Vrbka]

hi,


anyone know how to grep on a few files and search for ^$.

grep '\^\$' filename
should work...

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[Katipo]

Linas Žvirblis wrote:


Brent Clark wrote:

 


My question is, how would they go about that? What tools or tests were
needed to test whether an account has a strong or weak password.
   



You should consult John the Ripper. He is likely to be found in "john"
package, although I do not know if this particular tool was used.
 

John's one, but there are any number of other network security tools 
that could have been employed.
This is what they're for, - to establish the existence of weak passwords 
so that they can be rectified.


I find it hard to believe that a developer would be that slack, though.
If they are that pathetic in regard to compromising Debian servers, they 
need a kick up the arse.

Sure of your info?
Regards,



 




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Brent Clark wrote:

> My question is, how would they go about that? What tools or tests were
> needed to test whether an account has a strong or weak password.

You should consult John the Ripper. He is likely to be found in "john"
package, although I do not know if this particular tool was used.


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[Michelle Konzack]

Am 2006-04-07 04:41:53, schrieb [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
> hiya were can i get a old maxtor diamondmax 10 200gb 6b200po  from as  i need 
> logic board of it to make  another same drive to work so i can get  all the 
> data of ty CR Brown
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try to get one from  and use an international
search...  if the datas are realy important, you will need it...

Note:   I have done this too...  and bought an old HDD for 480 Euro.
;-) HDD was broken, but not the electronic.  Do not ask
me what sort of E-Mails I have gotten after the buy...  :-P

They had suggest me to consult a PSY!  :-P

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[Andrei Popescu]

On Mon, 26 Dec 2005 23:46:33 -0600
Steve Block <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Sat, Dec 24, 2005 at 01:11:42AM +0200, Andrei Popescu wrote:
> >On Fri, 23 Dec 2005 08:20:55 -0600
> >Steve Block <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >> On Thu, Dec 22, 2005 at 07:49:12PM -0600, Tatsuya Kobayashi wrote:
> >> ># help
> >> 
> >> I don't think I can.
> >> 
> >> -- 
> >> Steve Block
> >> http://ev-15.com/
> >> http://steveblock.com/
> >> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> >Don't be so mean, he apologized!
> 
> I wasn't being mean, just telling the truth. :-)
> 
> Sorry, sometimes I get a little strange on the list.

I think i understand why. I'm pretty new to the list and already get a bit 
annoyed by some "posters" (like the one with the "test")
Sorry, who am i to correct you?

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On Sat, Dec 24, 2005 at 01:11:42AM +0200, Andrei Popescu wrote:

On Fri, 23 Dec 2005 08:20:55 -0600
Steve Block <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


On Thu, Dec 22, 2005 at 07:49:12PM -0600, Tatsuya Kobayashi wrote:
># help

I don't think I can.

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Don't be so mean, he apologized!


I wasn't being mean, just telling the truth. :-)

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On Fri, 23 Dec 2005 08:20:55 -0600
Steve Block <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Thu, Dec 22, 2005 at 07:49:12PM -0600, Tatsuya Kobayashi wrote:
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> 
> I don't think I can.
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Don't be so mean, he apologized!

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On Thu, Dec 22, 2005 at 07:49:12PM -0600, Tatsuya Kobayashi wrote:

# help


I don't think I can.

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[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Please advise on removing AOL art from my computer
Thank you


A rasor blade should suffice.

Just be careful not to scratch the screen too badly.


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[RUMRD8]

Who are you and why are you sending me e-mail 
attachments?

Re: (no subject)

[Ian]

What he means is that when you start a KDE session through the login screen, you can only log out, and then
shut down the computer by typing the root password. In GNOME anyone can
shut down though. How can we change it to show a shut down option in
the K menu?-- "If practice makes perfect, and no one is perfect, then why practice?"

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[Sergio Basurto Juarez]

--- Hugo Tapia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> i finished to install debian linux 3.0 r2, but i
> have bot access to the 
> console that running in gnome.
> what i can do?
> i only see de text mode console.
> i used the debian instruction for installation, i
> use woody installation 
> because i have 7 cd from debian.
> thanks.
> hugo tapia

Which part of the installation do you finished. 
There are to installation phases, the first one
install the base system, once you boot your new
installation then it ask what else do you want to
install and base config runs!!!.
If you finish the first phase then type:
#base-config and follow the instructions.

If you finish both then try:
#startx 
as root and it should take you to xwindows interface
or send an error message.

If works have fun, else open an other thread and send
the error message that it sends.

Please next time put a subject. This make easy to
anyone that wants to help you, knows what kind of help
you are asking for.

Regards.

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On Tue, 16 Nov 2004 12:28:52 -0600, Nelson, wrote in message 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> 
> I just bought an HP with an AMD 64 processor. It came w/ wireless 
> keyboard/mouse.  If I install debian stable or unstable will it have 
> drivers for these or will I need a plugged in keyboard/mouse.
> 
>  -A Reasonably Confused newbie

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[David P James]

On Sat 28 August 2004 23:32, Stefan O'Rear wrote:
> On Sat, Aug 28, 2004 at 10:27:30PM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > hi I would like to install tecknet
>
> 1. What package?
>
> apt-file search tecknet
>
> 2. Install it
>
> apt-get install 
>
> 3. More info
>
> If you can't get it, you need to give us more information.
>
> What is tecknet?
>
> What debian release? (stable , testing, unstable)
>

Oh dear, here we go again. Look at his email address... @aol.com. Then 
look at his mailer in the message headers:

X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 5000

Looks like an AOL mailer to me. He probably went to the wrong place for 
help...

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[Stefan O'Rear]

On Sat, Aug 28, 2004 at 10:27:30PM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> hi I would like to install tecknet

1. What package?

apt-file search tecknet

2. Install it

apt-get install 

3. More info

If you can't get it, you need to give us more information.

What is tecknet?

What debian release? (stable , testing, unstable)

etc.

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[Michal R. Hoffmann]

Nicos Gollan wrote:
[]
Following that reasoning, you could just "compress" anything as "42" in
your favourite encoding, it's just the decompression that's tricky,
although you can, for every given datum, create an algorithm that, when
run with the input "42" returns that datum.
Yes, I suppose yes. But I'm afraid, that the implemented _correct_ 
algorithm would work for rather long time. Let's say some thousand or 
million years. And mice did it already. Maybe better just trust them and 
return "42" immediately.

PS. Trust no one.
PPS. Is some deb package which does it?
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[Brian Brazil]

On Wed, Mar 31, 2004 at 10:57:35AM +0200, Michal R. Hoffmann wrote:
> Julius Plenz wrote:
> 
> >* Kenneth Macdoald Karlsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2004-03-30 20:13]:
> >
> >>On Tue, 2004-03-30 at 15:00, Manjula Kuntennkar wrote:
> >>
> >>>we are looking for the algorithm of data compression, we need to
> >>>send data the GPS data to the base station, data to be compressed
> >>>is 70%.can u provide the algorithm
> >>
> >>The answer to life, the universe, and everything is 42.
> >
> >
> >That's _one_ answer. But I got a different one.
> >
> >Let's assume you've got a file which is filled with exactly
> >1,073,741,824 spaces in a row. Now look at the compression-
> >effectiveness-"table", got in <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> >
> >, [ Compression-Algorithms ]
> >| ZIP:   1,043,671 (1028:1)
> >| ZLIB:  1,043,677 (1028:1)
> >| BZIP2: 833   (1289005:1)
> >`
> >
> >But maybe you don't want to compress a file full of spaces...
> >
> >Julius
> 
> And I have another one. He didn't mentioned that it's supposed to be a 
> lossless compression. Once I've written the function, it has compressed 
> 10kb file into few bytes. Unfortunately, I was not able to uncompress it 
> to the original form. ;-) Well, jpeg with max compression level is also 
> nice.

http://lzip.sourceforge.net/


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[Nicos Gollan]

On Wed, 31 Mar 2004 10:57:35 +0200
"Michal R. Hoffmann" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> And I have another one. He didn't mentioned that it's supposed to be a
> lossless compression. Once I've written the function, it has
> compressed 10kb file into few bytes. Unfortunately, I was not able to
> uncompress it to the original form. ;-) Well, jpeg with max
> compression level is also nice.

Following that reasoning, you could just "compress" anything as "42" in
your favourite encoding, it's just the decompression that's tricky,
although you can, for every given datum, create an algorithm that, when
run with the input "42" returns that datum.

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[Michal R. Hoffmann]

Julius Plenz wrote:

* Kenneth Macdoald Karlsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2004-03-30 20:13]:

On Tue, 2004-03-30 at 15:00, Manjula Kuntennkar wrote:

we are looking for the algorithm of data compression, we need to
send data the GPS data to the base station, data to be compressed
is 70%.can u provide the algorithm
The answer to life, the universe, and everything is 42.


That's _one_ answer. But I got a different one.

Let's assume you've got a file which is filled with exactly
1,073,741,824 spaces in a row. Now look at the compression-
effectiveness-"table", got in <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
, [ Compression-Algorithms ]
| ZIP:   1,043,671 (1028:1)
| ZLIB:  1,043,677 (1028:1)
| BZIP2: 833   (1289005:1)
`
But maybe you don't want to compress a file full of spaces...

Julius
And I have another one. He didn't mentioned that it's supposed to be a 
lossless compression. Once I've written the function, it has compressed 
10kb file into few bytes. Unfortunately, I was not able to uncompress it 
to the original form. ;-) Well, jpeg with max compression level is also nice.

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On Tue, Mar 30, 2004 at 08:00:06AM -0500, Manjula Kuntennkar wrote:
> sir,
> we are looking for the algorithm of data compression,
> we need to send data the GPS data to the base station,
> data to be compressed is 70%.can u provide the algorithm

It's impossible to guarantee a certain percentage of data compression
as that depends not only on the algorithm but on the amount of
redundancy in the data. But you could always check out the bzip2
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[Julius Plenz]

* Kenneth Macdoald Karlsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2004-03-30 20:13]:
> On Tue, 2004-03-30 at 15:00, Manjula Kuntennkar wrote:
> > we are looking for the algorithm of data compression, we need to
> > send data the GPS data to the base station, data to be compressed
> > is 70%.can u provide the algorithm
> 
> The answer to life, the universe, and everything is 42.

That's _one_ answer. But I got a different one.

Let's assume you've got a file which is filled with exactly
1,073,741,824 spaces in a row. Now look at the compression-
effectiveness-"table", got in <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

, [ Compression-Algorithms ]
| ZIP:   1,043,671 (1028:1)
| ZLIB:  1,043,677 (1028:1)
| BZIP2: 833   (1289005:1)
`

But maybe you don't want to compress a file full of spaces...

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[Kenneth Macdoald Karlsen]

On Tue, 2004-03-30 at 15:00, Manjula Kuntennkar wrote:
> sir,
> we are looking for the algorithm of data compression,
> we need to send data the GPS data to the base station,
> data to be compressed is 70%.can u provide the algorithm
>   regards
>manjula
> 
> 

The answer to life, the universe, and everything is 42.
Kenneth.
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[Nicolas Kratz]

On Sun, Mar 07, 2004 at 09:38:43AM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I WOULD LIKE TO USE COREL OR WORDPERFECT TO MAKE BUSINESS CARDS FOR MY 
> HUSBAND BUT DOWNLOADED THE PROGRAM ON HIS ACCOUNT AND HE'S NOT THE ADMINISTRATOR.  
> HOW DO I CHANGE THIS SO I CAN ACHIEVE WHAT I NEED TO DO

First of all, let go of your Shift key, or unlock Caps. Writing in all
uppercase is considered yelling and quite rude by some, annoying because
it is hard to read by most.

Then, if your husband's computer is running Debian GNU/Linux, which is
what this mailing list is all about, then neither Corel Draw nor
WordPerfect will run. Try the OpenOffice suite of programs. Ask whoever
is admin of that machine to install it for you.

If you are running Windows, which I strongly suspect, sorry. No help to
be expected here. Zilch. Nada.

Either way, please step away from your husband's computer before you
accidentally damage it.

Cheers,
Nick

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On Thu, 25 Dec 2003 11:24:56 +, Colin Watson wrote:

> On Wed, Dec 24, 2003 at 02:47:19PM +, Antony Gelberg wrote:
>> On Wed, Dec 24, 2003 at 12:38:32PM +, Ken Gilmour wrote:
>> > On Wed, 24 Dec 2003 05:56:03 EST, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>> > > i have install the printer driver and say the it printing but
>> > > nothing happen on the printer.
>> > 
>> > Linux is nothing to do with windows and the only similarity of it is
>> > that (sadly) Humans also use windows.
>> > 
>> > Why do AOL users always contact linux lists about windows problems?
>> 
>> It's a troll.
> 
> Is it? I tend not to ascribe to malice what can easily be explained by
> stupidity. :)

Ha!  A true scientist; the simplest explanation is usually the correct one :)

Happy Christmas, Colin, from sunny Florida.

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[Colin Watson]

On Wed, Dec 24, 2003 at 02:47:19PM +, Antony Gelberg wrote:
> On Wed, Dec 24, 2003 at 12:38:32PM +, Ken Gilmour wrote:
> > On Wed, 24 Dec 2003 05:56:03 EST, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > > i have install the printer driver and say the it printing but
> > > nothing happen on the printer.
> > 
> > Linux is nothing to do with windows and the only similarity of it is
> > that (sadly) Humans also use windows.
> > 
> > Why do AOL users always contact linux lists about windows problems?
> 
> It's a troll.

Is it? I tend not to ascribe to malice what can easily be explained by
stupidity. :)

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On Wed, Dec 24, 2003 at 05:40:58PM +, Ken Gilmour wrote:
> All AOL Users (that i know of) are PEBKAC (Problem Exists Between
> Keyboard And Chair) people

AOL seems to do approximately zero QA on their software before
shipping it.  AOL frequently breaks Windows more severely than Windows
can on it's own.  To put it another way: AOL's software is fairly
universally considered crap among Windows users.  I'm not sure if that
says more about AOL, Windows users or Windows itself.  But no matter
how you slice it, that's the kind of low that cannot be found anywhere
on land, and science has not yet brought us the technology to build a
submarine that won't implode under the pressure of those ocean depths.

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[Paul Morgan]

On Wed, 24 Dec 2003 17:40:58 +, Ken Gilmour wrote:

>>
>> This is an automated reply from the Debian List Automated Monitor 
> (DLAM):
>> Your monitored IQ is measured to be:
>> 0.8 brick
>> Not sufficient to post. Sorry. Try taking IQ courses.
>>
>> I didn't know they installed that AI tool of mine! ;-)
>>
>> Hugo.
> 
> Shouldn't @aol.com addresses just be banned altogether? They seem to 
> always have windows problems when writing to this list.
> 
> All AOL Users (that i know of) are PEBKAC (Problem Exists Between 
> Keyboard And Chair) people

Careful, my wife is an AOL user, and she's not dumb (well, except that she
married me)

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[Hugo Vanwoerkom]

Ken Gilmour wrote:
This is an automated reply from the Debian List Automated Monitor 
(DLAM):

Your monitored IQ is measured to be:
0.8 brick
Not sufficient to post. Sorry. Try taking IQ courses.
I didn't know they installed that AI tool of mine! ;-)

Hugo.


Shouldn't @aol.com addresses just be banned altogether? They seem to 
always have windows problems when writing to this list.

All AOL Users (that i know of) are PEBKAC (Problem Exists Between 
Keyboard And Chair) people



Better actually. I'l get right on it: an AI tool called DOPEBKAC - 
Detection of problems between keyboard and chair.
Should be easy... Have to avoid being detected myself...
E.g. I got a problem: I lost my printer icon on my way in this morning: 
how do I get it back?
Here in Mexico they will actually sell you one ;-)

Hugo

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>
> This is an automated reply from the Debian List Automated Monitor
(DLAM):
> Your monitored IQ is measured to be:
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> Not sufficient to post. Sorry. Try taking IQ courses.
>
> I didn't know they installed that AI tool of mine! ;-)
>
> Hugo.

Shouldn't @aol.com addresses just be banned altogether? They seem to
always have windows problems when writing to this list.

All AOL Users (that i know of) are PEBKAC (Problem Exists Between
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hi i got a lexmark 1020 printer and it will not print out on windows xp. 
Please can you help me.


Hi, I'm a Linux user, English speaker, and have an IQ greater than
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On Wed, Dec 24, 2003 at 12:38:32PM +, Ken Gilmour wrote:
> On Wed, 24 Dec 2003 05:56:03 EST, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > i have install the printer driver and say the it printing but
> > nothing happen on the printer.
> 
> Linux is nothing to do with windows and the only similarity of it is that (sadly) 
> Humans also use windows.
> 
> Why do AOL users always contact linux lists about windows problems?

It's a troll.

A

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On Wed, 24 Dec 2003 05:56:03 EST, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> i have install the printer driver and say the it printing but
> nothing happen on the printer.

Linux is nothing to do with windows and the only similarity of it is that (sadly) 
Humans also use windows.

Why do AOL users always contact linux lists about windows problems?

Happy Christmas anyway



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On Tue, Dec 23, 2003 at 07:23:03AM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> hi i got a lexmark 1020 printer and it will not print out on windows xp. 
> Please can you help me.

Hi, I'm a Linux user, English speaker, and have an IQ greater than
that of a brick.  Therefor, I realize that
[EMAIL PROTECTED] will only help you if you need help with
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On Tue, 26 Aug 2003 21:53:27 -0700, 
Paul Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message 
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> On Tue, Aug 26, 2003 at 06:18:40PM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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> > hi my name is brian i have a pc very old it take win95 i format the
> > made drive to us the disk can you help me your you no a good wibb to
> > get on
> 
> Wait, what?  You might want to rephrase that.  Here's some pointers.
> 
> http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html

..how about making this part of an automated troll etc response?

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On Tuesday 23 December 2003 09:14, Ken Gilmour wrote:
> Replying to the message sent by [EMAIL PROTECTED]  on Tue, 23 Dec
> 2003 07:23:03 EST, received at 15:10:32 on 23/12/2003.
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> wrote:
> > hi i got a lexmark 1020 printer and it will not print out on
> > windows
>
> xp. Please can you help me.
>
> This is a Debian linux user list. We know very little about windows
> XP because it is an inferior product.
>
> If you have installed Debian we may be able to help you install your
> printer.

YHBT. HAND.

Please, don't feed the trolls.

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[Ken Gilmour]

Replying to the message sent by [EMAIL PROTECTED]  on Tue, 23 Dec 2003
07:23:03 EST, received at 15:10:32 on 23/12/2003. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
> hi i got a lexmark 1020 printer and it will not print out on windows
xp. Please can you help me.

This is a Debian linux user list. We know very little about windows XP
because it is an inferior product.

If you have installed Debian we may be able to help you install your
printer.



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[Ken Gilmour]

aha! i found why it sends in html! It replies in the same format as the original sent 
email :) I have disabled this feature now.

On Wed, 19 Nov 2003 18:20:29 -0500, Jeff Elkins wrote:
> I guess it's a losing battle...
>
>
> All my incoming HTML email is captured by spamassassin and routed
> to the spam folder. It's sadly amusing to find someone lambasting
> AOL users posting here in that format.
>
> Please don't email using HTML...
>
>
> Thanks,
>
>
> Jeff Elkins





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[Jeff Elkins]

I guess it's a losing battle...

All my incoming HTML email is captured by spamassassin and routed to the spam 
folder. It's sadly amusing to find someone lambasting AOL users posting here 
in that format.

Please don't email using HTML...

Thanks,

Jeff Elkins


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[Vineet Kumar]

* Ken Gilmour ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [031119 13:23]:
>He should be taken out and beaten with a rubber chicken... just like all
>illiterate people

What this has to do with literacy is beyond me.  This comment is in
extremely poor taste.

good times,
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[Colin Watson]

On Wed, Nov 19, 2003 at 08:35:38PM +, Ken Gilmour wrote:
>AOL users should be banned from using the internet

Could you please:

  * post in plain text, not HTML;

  * write new text below quoted text rather than the other way round?

Both of those are marks of the stereotypical AOL user, I'm afraid.

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[Ken Gilmour]

He should be taken out and beaten with a rubber chicken... just like all illiterate people 
 
On Wed, 19 Nov 2003 12:07:21 -0800, Vineet Kumar wrote:> * [EMAIL PROTECTED] ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [031119 12:04]:>>> HELLO THERE>> IM WONDERING IF YOU COULD E-MAIL ME YOUR DRIVER FOR WINDOWS>> XP>> ??>>  Anybody have a copy of swen sitting around they could mail this guy?>>> Actually, the double-clickable equivalent of "rm -rf /" should do> it; he seems like the type of guy who would run whatever someone> sends him in response.>> (I apologize for feeding the troll, but what with all of the> enormous OT threads around here recently, I think this might even> _increase_ the S/N around here ;-)>> good times,> Vineet> --> http://www.doorstop.net/




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[David Palmer.]

On Wed, 19 Nov 2003 14:33:53 EST
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> HELLO THERE 
> 
>   IM WONDERING IF YOU COULD E-MAIL ME YOUR DRIVER
>   FOR 
> WINDOWS 
> XP???
> ?
> ??
> 
> 
It is the considered opinion of the people on this list that there is no
driver for XP. They forgot to include it in the original package, and
they don't have the technological expertise to rectify the problem.
Regards,

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[Ken Gilmour]

AOL users should be banned from using the internet
 
On Wed, 19 Nov 2003 14:33:53 EST, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:> HELLO THERE>>>  IM WONDERING IF YOU COULD E-MAIL ME YOUR> DRIVER FOR WINDOWS> XP> ??> >>> I HAVE NO MORE IN FO FOR YOU




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* [EMAIL PROTECTED] ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [031119 12:04]:
> HELLO THERE 
> 
>   IM WONDERING IF YOU COULD E-MAIL ME YOUR DRIVER FOR 
> WINDOWS 
> XP??

Anybody have a copy of swen sitting around they could mail this guy?

Actually, the double-clickable equivalent of "rm -rf /" should do it; he
seems like the type of guy who would run whatever someone sends him in
response.

(I apologize for feeding the troll, but what with all of the enormous
OT threads around here recently, I think this might even _increase_ the
S/N around here ;-)

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On Mon, 17 Nov 2003 16:45:08 GMT
Ken Gilmour <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> if i get another unsubscribe email i will sue AOL for making people
> dumb

Class action anyone?

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if i get another unsubscribe email i will sue AOL for making people dumb

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[Rob Weir]

On Wed, Nov 05, 2003 at 02:12:54PM -0600, Matt Eberhardt said
> I ran cat on /dev/mouse/install and sure enough... no mouse installed...
> i already have hotplug installed
> how exactly do i go about installing a mouse? i am used to the distro
> install handling this

It requires kernel support for your USB controller and HID.  What does
"uname -r" say?  If it's bf2.4, then this should Just Work.  If it's
2.2, then you'll need to upgrade it to something more featureful:

$ apt-get install kernel-image-2.4.18-

where  is, 386, 686, k7, etc.  Make SURE you add the line to
lilo.conf that it suggests, then re-run lilo.

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[Matt Eberhardt]

I ran cat on /dev/mouse/install and sure enough... no mouse installed...
i already have hotplug installed
how exactly do i go about installing a mouse? i am used to the distro
install handling this

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I just had the exact same problem yesterday while doing a fresh install.
Even though /dev/input/mice exists as a file, that doesn't necessarily
mean that the device is there. A good way to test is to do a "cat
/dev/input/mice" (no, that's not a pun :) and see if you get a device
not found or if you start getting garbage when you move the mouse. If
you get garbage, then the mouse is found properly.

In my case, I just had to install hotplug (apt-get install hotplug) and
then unplug the mouse and plug it back in. After that, everything worked
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[csj]

At Sat, 6 Sep 2003 01:48:48 -0700,
Paul Johnson wrote:
> 
> On Sat, Sep 06, 2003 at 05:51:50AM +0800, Katipo wrote:
> > Definitely Windows.
> 
> Why do AOLers think this is the place to get help with their
> broken-ass OS?

AOL Windows?


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[Katipo]

On Saturday 06 September 2003 16:48, Paul Johnson wrote:
> On Sat, Sep 06, 2003 at 05:51:50AM +0800, Katipo wrote:
> > Definitely Windows.
>
> Why do AOLers think this is the place to get help with their
> broken-ass OS?

This person is French, and appears to be new on the net.
I had a communication in the mail.
Communication problem only. It happens even between people who speak the same 
language.
Regards,

David.


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> Definitely Windows.

Why do AOLers think this is the place to get help with their
broken-ass OS?

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On Sat, Sep 06, 2003 at 05:18:08AM +0800, csj wrote:
> That was my first reaction.  But given the OP's rather generic
> description of the problem, we could assume s/he was using the
> term Control Panel(tm) the way many people use the word
> Kleenex(tm) for tissue paper.

Not quite.  Microsoft doesn't have a trademark on "Control Panel,"
since it was in common use before they used it to describe Windows
configuration, and the makers of Kleenex lost the trademark in court
to common usage of the word to mean any kind of facial tissue.

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[Katipo]

On Saturday 06 September 2003 02:05, Carlos Sousa wrote:
> On Fri, 05 Sep 2003 23:02:25 +0800 csj wrote:
> > > On Thu, Sep 04, 2003 at 11:39:54PM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >
> > > wrote:
> > > > Hi my name is stephany for quit a while now i have no sound
> > > > and it keeps saying nmo audio device or no active mixer
> > > > devices i w3nt to the control panel to install hardware but
>
>^^^
>
> > I suspect the OP was using some GUI-based, probably
> > wizard-oriented, audio configuration tool.  We can safely
> > conclude that the OP's running either KDE or Gnome.
>
> Looks more like Windows to me...

Definitely Windows.
Install hardware wizard is accessed thrugh 'control panel'.
And probably an earlier distro, as XP has control panel hidden out of the box.
Regards,

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At Fri, 5 Sep 2003 19:05:12 +0100,
Carlos Sousa wrote:
> 
> On Fri, 05 Sep 2003 23:02:25 +0800 csj wrote:
> > > On Thu, Sep 04, 2003 at 11:39:54PM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > wrote:
> > > > Hi my name is stephany for quit a while now i have no sound
> > > > and it keeps saying nmo audio device or no active mixer
> > > > devices i w3nt to the control panel to install hardware but
>^^^
> > I suspect the OP was using some GUI-based, probably
> > wizard-oriented, audio configuration tool.  We can safely
> > conclude that the OP's running either KDE or Gnome.
> 
> Looks more like Windows to me...

That was my first reaction.  But given the OP's rather generic
description of the problem, we could assume s/he was using the
term Control Panel(tm) the way many people use the word
Kleenex(tm) for tissue paper.  And yes, in some distros (Redhat
comes to mind), you don't need to go down to the console or an
xterm to install, configure or break such things.


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[Pigeon]

On Fri, Sep 05, 2003 at 11:02:25PM +0800, csj wrote:
> > On Thu, Sep 04, 2003 at 11:39:54PM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > > Hi my name is stephany for quit a while now i have no sound
> > > and it keeps saying nmo audio device or no active mixer
> > > devices i w3nt to the control panel to install hardware but
> > > it wouldn't work any idea's? help!
>
> I suspect the OP was using some GUI-based, probably
> wizard-oriented, audio configuration tool.  We can safely
> conclude that the OP's running either KDE or Gnome.

"w3nt to the control panel to install hardware"... I think the OP's
one of those misdirected windoze users who find the list through
google and don't know what "Debian" means. The error messages look
windozy too.

OP: Are you in fact running the Debian GNU/Linux system? If not, I'm
afraid you've asked the wrong list. If you don't know, you're not.

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[Carlos Sousa]

On Fri, 05 Sep 2003 23:02:25 +0800 csj wrote:
> > On Thu, Sep 04, 2003 at 11:39:54PM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > wrote:
> > > Hi my name is stephany for quit a while now i have no sound
> > > and it keeps saying nmo audio device or no active mixer
> > > devices i w3nt to the control panel to install hardware but
   ^^^
> I suspect the OP was using some GUI-based, probably
> wizard-oriented, audio configuration tool.  We can safely
> conclude that the OP's running either KDE or Gnome.

Looks more like Windows to me...

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[csj]

At Fri, 5 Sep 2003 01:08:44 -0700,
Paul Johnson wrote:
> 
> On Thu, Sep 04, 2003 at 11:39:54PM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > Hi my name is stephany for quit a while now i have no sound
> > and it keeps saying nmo audio device or no active mixer
> > devices i w3nt to the control panel to install hardware but
> > it wouldn't work any idea's? help!
> 
> Help us help you.
> 
> First, since you're on AOL, I'm going to assume you're
> American, so act like you know English.  Welcome to the
> Internet, this is NOT AOL, so don't act like it is.  This list
> has a lot of non-native English speakers on it that may be able
> to help you.  I can't understand what the heck you just said,
> and English is my first language; I doubt any non-native
> speakers could make heads or tails of what you just said.

You're wrong there.  Non-native speakers are more likely to
understand English which deviates from the first language norm.
While vague in his or her description, the OP made perfect sense
to me, and I learned English only at school.  Let's not blame on
English what's clearly a newbie-to-geek communication problem.

> I gather you're having audio problems.  Explain.  At least make a
> half-assed attempt at using the language you claim to know properly.

I suspect the OP was using some GUI-based, probably
wizard-oriented, audio configuration tool.  We can safely
conclude that the OP's running either KDE or Gnome.


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[Paul Johnson]

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On Thu, Sep 04, 2003 at 11:39:54PM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Hi my name is stephany for quit a while now i have no sound and it
> keeps saying nmo audio device or no active mixer devices i w3nt to
> the control panel to install hardware but it wouldn't work any
> idea's? help!

Help us help you.

First, since you're on AOL, I'm going to assume you're American, so
act like you know English.  Welcome to the Internet, this is NOT AOL,
so don't act like it is.  This list has a lot of non-native English
speakers on it that may be able to help you.  I can't understand what
the heck you just said, and English is my first language; I doubt any
non-native speakers could make heads or tails of what you just said.

I gather you're having audio problems.  Explain.  At least make a
half-assed attempt at using the language you claim to know properly.

Second, read this so you can include enough details for us to be able
to make an educated stab at it.

http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html

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[Paul Johnson]

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> hi my name is brian i have a pc very old it take win95 i format the
> made drive to us the disk can you help me your you no a good wibb to
> get on

Wait, what?  You might want to rephrase that.  Here's some pointers.

http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html

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[Mailing List]

On 11/5/02 4:30 PM, "Torrin" wrote:

> On Tue, Nov 05, 2002 at 01:11:01PM +0100, Matthias Hentges wrote:
> [SNIP]
>> You need to get a new keyboard, i think. This stuck CAPS-LOCK YOU HAVE
>> THERE IS SORT OF ANNOYING!
> [SNIP]
> 
> That's not a stuck CAPS-LOCK key, he was yelling at us.

Or WebTV

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[Matthias Hentges]

Am Die, 2002-11-05 um 23.30 schrieb Torrin:
> On Tue, Nov 05, 2002 at 01:11:01PM +0100, Matthias Hentges wrote:
> [SNIP]
> > You need to get a new keyboard, i think. This stuck CAPS-LOCK YOU HAVE
> > THERE IS SORT OF ANNOYING!
> [SNIP]
> 
> That's not a stuck CAPS-LOCK key, he was yelling at us.

Yeah, but i don't think that people who write all upper case know
that...or care about it. And who would yell on purpose to get some
answers here?

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[Torrin]

On Tue, Nov 05, 2002 at 01:11:01PM +0100, Matthias Hentges wrote:
[SNIP]
> You need to get a new keyboard, i think. This stuck CAPS-LOCK YOU HAVE
> THERE IS SORT OF ANNOYING!
[SNIP]

That's not a stuck CAPS-LOCK key, he was yelling at us.

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[Matthias Hentges]

Am Die, 2002-11-05 um 12.08 schrieb [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
> I DON'T KNOW WHY YOUR SITE HAS COME UP AGAIN ON MY COMPUTER WHEN I TRY TO 
> ACCESS WWW.TIGERNET2.COM,A CLEMSON UNIVERSITY SPORTS INFO PAGE. CAN YOUHELP 
> ME. THIS IS THE SECOND TIME IT HAS HAPPENED.I TYPE  TIGERNET2.COM AND YOUR 
> PAGE COMES UP WITH, 
> WELCOME TO YOUR NEW HOME PAGE.WHAT THE HELL IS THAT. THIS IS GETTING VERY 
> ANNOYING,CAN YOU PROVIDE ME WITH A LITTLE INSIGHT AS TO WHY THIS KEEPS 
> HAPPENING. MY SYSTEM IS CLEAR OF ANY VIRUS,AND I NEVER HEARD OF YOUR SITE 
> ,COMPANY OR ANYTHING TO DO WITH YOU .
> I WOULD APPRECIATE ANY HELP YOU CAN PROVIDE.
>THANK YOU,
>  GARRY MOUNCE

You need to get a new keyboard, i think. This stuck CAPS-LOCK YOU HAVE
THERE IS SORT OF ANNOYING!
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[Colin Watson]

On Tue, Nov 05, 2002 at 06:08:53AM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I DON'T KNOW WHY YOUR SITE HAS COME UP AGAIN ON MY COMPUTER WHEN I TRY TO 
> ACCESS WWW.TIGERNET2.COM,A CLEMSON UNIVERSITY SPORTS INFO PAGE. CAN YOUHELP 
> ME. THIS IS THE SECOND TIME IT HAS HAPPENED.I TYPE  TIGERNET2.COM AND YOUR 
> PAGE COMES UP WITH, 
> WELCOME TO YOUR NEW HOME PAGE.WHAT THE HELL IS THAT. THIS IS GETTING VERY 
> ANNOYING,CAN YOU PROVIDE ME WITH A LITTLE INSIGHT AS TO WHY THIS KEEPS 
> HAPPENING. MY SYSTEM IS CLEAR OF ANY VIRUS,AND I NEVER HEARD OF YOUR SITE 
> ,COMPANY OR ANYTHING TO DO WITH YOU .

Hi,

The page you're seeing is the default home page in one of the web server
packages included in our software distribution. Evidently, Tigernet2 use
our distribution. However, the fact that you're seeing this default home
page means that the people operating www.tigernet2.com have made a
serious mistake configuring their web site.

You should contact whoever operates www.tigernet2.com and ask them to
fix it. We have no special access to or involvement in their system, and
can't help beyond that.

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On Wednesday 16 October 2002 5:59 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

If you write lots of text with no whitespace it is almost impossible for 
anyone to read and understand what your problems are.

Leave a bit of space between paragraphs and then someone can understand what 
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[David Pastern]

I'll leave the originating text below unaltered...

1.  I'm relatively new to linux and was new to Debian until 5 or 6 weeks ago
now and I got it going.  Sure I had a problem with X, but with a bit of
reading (and a minute amount of help from a friend on irc) I got it going.
No big deal.  

2.  I don't like the gui install for redhat.  It sucks.  Since I have used
redhat to some extent and can quite firmly comment on this point.  I also
used expert install (text mode).  It's quicker, and makes more sense to my
eyes.  That is a personal preference.

3.  What's wrong with bsd?  OK, so it doesn't come giftwrapped like redhat
or mandrake.  Big deal.  An old saying:  "all that glitters is not gold".
Think about it.

4.  Koffice (I think I understood you right here, your writing style was a
bit hard to comprehend at that point [i'm not having a slight at you here]
is part of the KDE desktop.  If you install kde you will get koffice.  Don't
believe me?  Check out mandrake 9 or Redhat 8.  I bet they have koffice
installed along with kde.  If in real doubt check out the kde website.  

5.  Don't knock apt.  Or dpkg.  They both shit on rpm.  I've used both, so I
feel I am able to make a valid statement there.  End of story. 

6.  Debian itself isn't hard to use.  Setting it up is more difficult than
say, Redhat, or Mandrake.  Yes linux in general could be easier to use in
some aspects - I have no argument with that comment, i've stated it
previously many times.  As i've found out, and so, it seems, many other
happy Debian users, the vast majority of linux users end up at some point of
time or other, making Debian home.  I will NOT change to another
distribution.  Debian feels right, it feels like home.  The users lists are
absolutely fantastic.  Even when I make an ass of myself sometimes (ok heaps
of times lol).  

7.  Snazzy?  mmm.  This isn't a beauty contest.  I don't give a rats arse
how snazzy it looks - as long as it works, is reliable and consistent.
Debian meets those requirements hands down.  I think everyone here will
agree with me on that point.  Looks mean nothing.  Again that adage, "all
that glitters, is not gold" springs to mind.  Do you want a fancy gui that
*ucks up consistently?  Or something more robust that works.  As it should.


8.  Debian.  Why did I end up choosing it as home?  mmm.  I wanted to learn
more about linux.  OK, I don't need to know the working innards absolutely
back to front (and nor do I wish to), but I will guaranteed learn more.
Redhat held my hand so tightly I couldn't really learn.  I've learnt more
from Debian in 6 weeks than Redhat on and off since (non serious usage I
might add) since Redhat 5.2.  

9.  Idiot proof?  Well, i'm an idiot and i'm doing ok with it.  Sure I need
some help from time to time, but i'm managing ok.  If I can handle Debian
then anyone can.  

10.  I apologise to the other users subscribed to this list for my rant ;-) 

Dave

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Subject: (no subject)


 
   Not to start any flames or ask any specific questions,I would just 
like to post an experience I had with debian (my first and only one).
   I usually use a redhat based product,not redhat anymore,as they seem 
to have money driven issues,so now mostly mandrake.But some people I know 
said,hey try debian,its better,faster and it rocks.Well this went on for a 
good long while,and one day while having some issues with my mandrake and
its 
lack of wanting to upgrade the distro online,I said screw it and pointed the

old browser at linux central and picked up the latest debian release
(woody).
   First off the text install was pretty retro,compared to what Im used 
to,but I said hey,a no frills kind of deal,lets see how it turns out.Got it 
installed,luckily Ive done a number of linux based installs,because its not 
very newbie friendly.Rebooted,and first thing I noticed is that it went to 
the old lilo text boot: prompt.Well that wont do,but seems easy enough to 
fix,hit enter and watched the boot info scroll by.Thought to myself ,wow it 
looks like some BSD just crapped across the screen...okay,fix that 
later..started checking out the packages I installed and noticed that some
of 
the dependencies were connected by convienience,rather than true 
dependencies,e.g. KDE in no way depends on koffice,how that got in,I have no

clue,built kde from source without it,installed kde from rpm without it,etc.
   Oh,well,lets remove that problem...read much much much documentation 
on dpkg and apt-get, okay remove packages not needed.Hey 
look,linuxlogo...maybe that'll spruce up the boot process...wait a minute,I 
now need to run apt-get -f because these packages I removed wont let me 
progess with my new package installs.Damn.
Link lilo boot.b to boot-menu.b,run lilo -v ,reboot.Now have updating logo 
scrolling amongst the bsd-looking boot 

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[Colin Watson]

On Wed, Oct 16, 2002 at 12:59:15AM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> okay,fix that later..started checking out the packages I installed and
> noticed that some of the dependencies were connected by
> convienience,rather than true dependencies,e.g. KDE in no way depends
> on koffice,how that got in,I have no clue,

The 'kde' package is a metapackage which installs a big chunk of KDE for
convenience. If the metapackage isn't for you, remove it, install
individual components, and be happy.

> installed kde from rpm without it,etc.

Do NOT EVER use 'rpm' to install packages on Debian. It'll break.

>Oh,well,lets remove that problem...read much much much documentation 
> on dpkg and apt-get, okay remove packages not needed.Hey 
> look,linuxlogo...maybe that'll spruce up the boot process...wait a minute,I 
> now need to run apt-get -f because these packages I removed wont let me 
> progess with my new package installs.

Yup, you forced it and it broke. Don't force it. The 'rpm --force
--nodeps' mindset is dead and you need to forget about it with Debian;
one of the reasons we take so long about releases is eradicating the
need for that sort of thing.

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