Re (2): Questions regarding hardware for a Free Software (especially Debian)

[peasthope]

Date:   Thu, 17 Dec 2009 00:44:45 -0500, Celejar wrote,
> KMS is apparently badly broken on my Intel 945GM:

And LXDE is broken for the Intel 82815 Chipset 
on the board in the IBM NetVista 6578-RAU.

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Re: 2 questions: 1., iptables, 2., local net with rtl8139

[Florian Ernst]

Hello!

On Wed, Aug 18, 2004 at 08:28:52PM +0200, Na Zo wrote:
> >>>The problem come, if i try to use the following command:<<<
> 
> router:~# iptables -A FORWARD -i eth0 -o eth1 -m state --state
   ^
> ESTABLISHED,RELATED -j ACCEPT
> 
> then i got this error message (error code: 1):
> "
> iptables: No chain/target/match by that name
> "

Your lsmod listing lacks this module, so try "modprobe ipt_state"...

> 2., the second problem is, that i have in this router
> machine two
> ethernetcard (rtl8029, and 8139). the 8029 works fine, but i
> use 8139too
> driver for the other one. If i try to copy(ftp) _to_ the
> router, everything
> works fine with about 2MByte/s (the router is a PI 100MHZ,
> so it' s good for
> it), but in the other direction (from the router to another
> machine) i can
> copy only with 2-300KByte/s.

Last time I experienced something like this the rtl8139 was faulty
(some people say they are all buggy right when they are shipped).

Cheers,
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Re: 2 questions from debian noob

[Monique Y. Herman]

On 2004-01-27, Timmy P. penned:
> hello,
>
> i was wondering if yall could tell me why the network install for
> debian does not support Internal PCI cards.  I do not have a laptop,
> and can not spare 7 cds to install the os that i have heard so much
> good about. 

I'm not sure about the details of "network install", but you shouldn't
need 7 CDs to install debian.  One will do to get you up and running,
and then you can pull whatever packages you need over the net.  Also,
I'm suspicious about this "no Internal PCI cards" business.  Where is
this stated?

> I do plan on buying the cd set...but i wanted to make sure it worked
> with my hardware, and i liked it myself, before i buy it.

If money is such an issue and you have some bandwidth, there's no need
for you to buy the CDs.  Just download them.

> My other question, does debian work with AMD processors?  I believe
> they are intell compatible, but i can't find them mentioned on the
> debian site...so i figured i would ask the list.

I hope so ... my debian boxes are all athlons.

> Tim P.  Newark, DE (running mandrake and sick of it)

You've come to the right place!


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Re: 2 questions from debian noob

[Nick Hastings]

Hi,

* Timmy P. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [040128 10:15]:
> hello,
> 
> i was wondering if yall could tell me why the network
> install for debian does not support Internal PCI
> cards.

It does. Why do you think otherwise? What card do you need it to
support?

> I do not have a laptop, and can not spare 7
> cds to install the os that i have heard so much good
> about.

You don't need them anyway. You should be able to get your NIC working
with the net install cd.

> I do plan on buying the cd set...but i wanted to make
> sure it worked with my hardware, and i liked it
> myself, before i buy it.

Ahh, don't bother buying them. Once you have your NIC working you can
just download and install the packages you want painlessly using
apt-get.

> My other question, does debian work with AMD
> processors?  I believe they are intell compatible, but
> i can't find them mentioned on the debian site...so i
> figured i would ask the list.

Yes, see http://www.debian.org/ports/ The AMD processors are basically
same as the Intel. Just use the i386 binaries.

Cheers,

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Re: 2 questions from debian noob

[Sanjay Chigurupati]

I am running Debian on AMD athlon desktop



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Re: 2 questions from debian noob

[Alexander Schmehl]

* Timmy P. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [040127 17:27]:

> i was wondering if yall could tell me why the network
> install for debian does not support Internal PCI
> cards.  I do not have a laptop, and can not spare 7
> cds to install the os that i have heard so much good
> about.  

It depends on the chipset your PCI-card is based on. Most cards should
work. My notebooks Intel ethernet pro 100 based internal device is
supported. Some others might not. Do you know more about your card?


> My other question, does debian work with AMD
> processors?  I believe they are intell compatible, but
> i can't find them mentioned on the debian site...so i
> figured i would ask the list.

Yes, AMD processors are compatible with Intel processors, and therfore
will work with Debian.


Yours sincerely,
  Alexander


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Re: 2 questions from debian noob

[Carl Fink]

On Tue, Jan 27, 2004 at 08:27:41AM -0800, Timmy P. wrote:

> i was wondering if yall could tell me why the network
> install for debian does not support Internal PCI
> cards.

It does.  I, for instance, installed using an internal PCI ethernet card the
last two times I installed Debian.

What problem are you experiencing?

> I do plan on buying the cd set...but i wanted to make
> sure it worked with my hardware, and i liked it
> myself, before i buy it.

There's no charge.  Debian is *aggressively* free (and Free).  I don't think
the Project objects if you want to donate money, though.
 
> My other question, does debian work with AMD
> processors?  I believe they are intell compatible, but
> i can't find them mentioned on the debian site...so i
> figured i would ask the list.

If you check the Debian package site (packages.debian.org) you'll find a
bunch of packages specifically compiled to better support AMD chips,
including my own 1.4 GHz Athlon.  Works beautifully.

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Re: 2 questions from debian noob

[David Clymer]

On Tue, 2004-01-27 at 11:27, Timmy P. wrote:
> hello,
> 
> i was wondering if yall could tell me why the network
> install for debian does not support Internal PCI
> cards.  I do not have a laptop, and can not spare 7
> cds to install the os that i have heard so much good
> about.  
> 

I've never used it, but I'm guessing you just need to make sure that you
load the driver for your specific network card (and do the network
config correctly). 

You dont really need to do a network install unless all you've got are
boot floppies. The first Debian CD in the set all by itself is enough to
give you a usable system. Once you've got that installed you can use apt
to install anything else you might need via your network connection.

> 
> My other question, does debian work with AMD
> processors?  I believe they are intell compatible, but
> i can't find them mentioned on the debian site...so i
> figured i would ask the list.

Debian (and GNU/Linux in general) can run on any x86 compatible
processor be it AMD, Intel, Cyrix or whatever.

Hope that helps,

-davidc


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Re: 2 questions: ethernet card s82595fx ; bunch of background sounds

[Stephen Gran]

This one time, at band camp, Antonio Rodriguez said:
> Thanks Stephen for your help, just another question: how do you
> control the volume output level (system wide, and/or user wide)?

With a mixer.  apt-cache search mixer will return a whole list of them.
I prefer aumix myself, but YMMV.  aumix is configurable system-wide in
/etc/aumixrc, and each user will have a ~/.aumixrc after running it
once.  So root can set volume for the box on boot, and users can set the
volume level for their sessions.

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Re: 2 questions: ethernet card s82595fx ; bunch of background sounds

[Antonio Rodriguez]

Thanks Stephen for your help, just another question: how do you control 
the volume output level (system wide, and/or user wide)?

Stephen Gran wrote:

This one time, at band camp, Antonio Rodriguez said:
 

ethernet card  s82595fx: What is the module for this?  bunch of
background sounds: I had to disable gnome audio events to avoid a
bunch of  repeating sounds that didn't seem to stop. Even that didn't
help. What could be wrong? Thanks. Using sb module, sound card is ess
es1869

thanks to all
   


I can't help you with the network card without more information -
manufacturer, etc.  Maybe google can help you there.  As for the second
problem, I have the same problem with a CS4232 card.  I have to rmmod
and then modprobe it to get it resolve.  Because it happens so frequently
(something to do with the mixer init.d script, followed by starting
gnome-session, although I haven't tracked it down), I made an init.d
script that runs after the mixer one, that just rmmod's and then
modprobe's - all is well.

HTH,
Steve

 




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Re: 2 questions: ethernet card s82595fx ; bunch of background sounds

[Stephen Gran]

This one time, at band camp, Antonio Rodriguez said:
> ethernet card  s82595fx: What is the module for this?  bunch of
> background sounds: I had to disable gnome audio events to avoid a
> bunch of  repeating sounds that didn't seem to stop. Even that didn't
> help. What could be wrong? Thanks. Using sb module, sound card is ess
> es1869
> 
> thanks to all

I can't help you with the network card without more information -
manufacturer, etc.  Maybe google can help you there.  As for the second
problem, I have the same problem with a CS4232 card.  I have to rmmod
and then modprobe it to get it resolve.  Because it happens so frequently
(something to do with the mixer init.d script, followed by starting
gnome-session, although I haven't tracked it down), I made an init.d
script that runs after the mixer one, that just rmmod's and then
modprobe's - all is well.

HTH,
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Re: 2 questions

[Jamin W . Collins]

On Tue, 3 Sep 2002 00:04:12 +0100
Colin Watson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> That doesn't matter, though. 'export' just marks a variable to be
> exported - it doesn't save its current value and export that. Watch:

Sweet! learn something new every day!

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Re: 2 questions

[Nile Gomez]

--- Nile Gomez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> --- "Jamin W.Collins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Mon, 2 Sep 2002 18:39:11 -0400
> > Edward Guldemond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>  
> > > > 2. How to add shutdown and reboot to logout menu?
> 
> If you're using GDM, modify the gdm.conf file in /etc/X11
> as root using your favorite text editor and change the
> line
> using your favorite editor under [security] that says:
> 
> "AllowRoot=false" to "AllowRoot=true"
> 
> then save and exit!
> 
> Be warned, though... the first time I did this and tried
> to
> shutdown it went to an ugly blue striped screen and just
> "hung". I had to reboot and go back in and change the
> background to "none" under the background tab in the gdm
> configuration GUI. For some reason my computer doesn't
> like
> the colored backgrounds.
> 
> Hope this helps!
> 
> Nile

Sorry... the correct path is /etc/X11/gdm for the gdm.conf file!!

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Re: 2 questions

[Colin Watson]

On Mon, Sep 02, 2002 at 05:52:02PM -0500, Jamin W. Collins wrote:
> On Mon, 2 Sep 2002 18:39:11 -0400
> Edward Guldemond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Put 'export' before the $PATH part.  For example:
> > export $PATH="$PATH:/new_dir"
> 
> The above won't work.  You don't want the $ on the name of the variable
> you are exporting.  So, the line would look more like this:
> 
>   export PATH="$PATH:/new_dir"
> 
> However, /etc/profile already does the PATH exporting.  When you added the
> entry, did you ensure that the addition was before the line reading:
> 
>   export PATH

That doesn't matter, though. 'export' just marks a variable to be
exported - it doesn't save its current value and export that. Watch:

  $ foo=hello
  $ export foo
  $ echo $foo
  hello
  $ foo=world
  $ echo $foo
  world
  $ bash
  $ echo $foo
  world

More likely, /etc/profile simply isn't being read in the context in
which the original poster is expecting it to work, probably because it's
only read for login shells and xterms you launch aren't login shells by
default. See the INVOCATION section of the bash(1) man page, and
consider using ~/.bash_profile and ~/.bashrc instead.

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Re: 2 questions

[Nile Gomez]

--- "Jamin W.Collins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Mon, 2 Sep 2002 18:39:11 -0400
> Edward Guldemond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
 
> > > 2. How to add shutdown and reboot to logout menu?

If you're using GDM, modify the gdm.conf file in /etc/X11
as root using your favorite text editor and change the line
using your favorite editor under [security] that says:

"AllowRoot=false" to "AllowRoot=true"

then save and exit!

Be warned, though... the first time I did this and tried to
shutdown it went to an ugly blue striped screen and just
"hung". I had to reboot and go back in and change the
background to "none" under the background tab in the gdm
configuration GUI. For some reason my computer doesn't like
the colored backgrounds.

Hope this helps!

Nile


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Re: 2 questions

[Jamin W . Collins]

On Mon, 2 Sep 2002 18:39:11 -0400
Edward Guldemond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Mon, Sep 02, 2002 at 02:57:53PM -0700, Jianbo Wang wrote:
>
> > I installed woody on my pc. I have 2 questions:
> > 1. PATH: I tried to add some directories to PATH, and I change
> >/etc/profile and login.def, but $PATH doesn't change.
> >( I add $PATH="$PATH:/new_dir" in /etc/profile and login.def)
> 
> Put 'export' before the $PATH part.  For example:
> export $PATH="$PATH:/new_dir"

The above won't work.  You don't want the $ on the name of the variable
you are exporting.  So, the line would look more like this:

  export PATH="$PATH:/new_dir"

However, /etc/profile already does the PATH exporting.  When you added the
entry, did you ensure that the addition was before the line reading:

  export PATH

> > 2. How to add shutdown and reboot to logout menu?

This depends entirely on which login manager you are using.

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Re: 2 questions

[Edward Guldemond]

On Mon, Sep 02, 2002 at 02:57:53PM -0700, Jianbo Wang wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I installed woody on my pc. I have 2 questions:
> 1. PATH: I tried to add some directories to PATH, and I change
>/etc/profile and login.def, but $PATH doesn't change.
>( I add $PATH="$PATH:/new_dir" in /etc/profile and login.def)

Put 'export' before the $PATH part.  For example:
export $PATH="$PATH:/new_dir"

> 2. How to add shutdown and reboot to logout menu?

Can't say I know how to do this, but hopefully the first answer was
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linux 2.0.40 [was Re: 2 questions]

[Hans Ekbrand]

On Fri, Feb 22, 2002 at 12:57:14PM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote:
> On Fri, 22 Feb 2002 17:22:38 +1100 Matthew Dalton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Not only did the 2.0 series not end at 2.0.36, but it is still going.
> > 2.0.40-rc3 was released only 8 days ago. We'll see a real 2.0.40 in the
> > near future.
> > 
> > http://lwn.net/2002/0221/a/2.0.40-rc3.php3
> 
> Now that's a scary thought... 

Astonishing, I'd say.

> Though I guess it's good for ltsp,
> freesco & tomsrtbt.

There seems to be no good reason to use it on LTSP though. LTSP 3.0 supports 
NFS-swapping out the box, and requires devfs, so a customized 2.4 kernel is the 
way to go for old boxen with low RAM.

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Re: 2 questions

[Ron Johnson]

On Fri, 22 Feb 2002 17:22:38 +1100 Matthew Dalton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> dman wrote:
> > It isn't too surprising that it still has a 2.0 kernel packaged for
> > it,  (in fact, .38 must be fairly new since I thought the 2.0 series
> > ended at .36) but the installer uses a 2.2 kernel.
> 
> Not only did the 2.0 series not end at 2.0.36, but it is still going.
> 2.0.40-rc3 was released only 8 days ago. We'll see a real 2.0.40 in the
> near future.
> 
> http://lwn.net/2002/0221/a/2.0.40-rc3.php3

Now that's a scary thought...  Though I guess it's good for ltsp,
freesco & tomsrtbt.

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Re: 2 questions

[Matthew Dalton]

dman wrote:
> It isn't too surprising that it still has a 2.0 kernel packaged for
> it,  (in fact, .38 must be fairly new since I thought the 2.0 series
> ended at .36) but the installer uses a 2.2 kernel.

Not only did the 2.0 series not end at 2.0.36, but it is still going.
2.0.40-rc3 was released only 8 days ago. We'll see a real 2.0.40 in the
near future.

http://lwn.net/2002/0221/a/2.0.40-rc3.php3

Re: 2 questions

[dman]

On Fri, Feb 22, 2002 at 12:19:57PM +0800, a wrote:
| thanks!

You're welcome.

| actually both debians are in the same disk. the modem linux driver is for
| 2.2, so i have to install 2.2, though i'm quite happy with 2.1.
| 
| below is part of syslog. the first n lines is about modem's modules loading.
| the last few lines is about dialing.
 
This is the interesting part :

| pppd[163]: pppd 2.3.11 started by root, uid 0
| chat[164]: Can't get terminal parameters: Input/output error
| pppd[163]: Connect script failed
| pppd[163]: Exit.
| 
| "Can't get terminal parameters: Input/output error" means what?

Exactly.  I just skimmed the manpage for chat and didn't see that
particular message.  Perhaps it means the device driver isn't setup
properly, but I know nothing about ham radios or using them with a
computer.  (the error would be in the part of the log I snipped)

How about just trying minicom and working through it interactively?
Then you can see what needs to be done to interact with the modem.
Then locate the chat script your system is using (the one on my system
is /etc/chatscripts/provider, but I'm not actuall using PPP anymore).

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Re: 2 questions

[a]

thanks!

actually both debians are in the same disk. the modem linux driver is for
2.2, so i have to install 2.2, though i'm quite happy with 2.1.

below is part of syslog. the first n lines is about modem's modules loading.
the last few lines is about dialing.

kernel: hamcore module loaded
kernel: ham: loading HaM PRE-Release 333-5 INT - Feb 22 2002
kernel: ham: /PCI/VENDOR_1813/DEVICE_4000/SUBSYS_ on bus 0
kernel: ham: Device Class=0780 IRQ line=10 IRQ pin=1
kernel: ham: DSP base address: phys=f0412000 virt=c188a000
kernel: ham: I/O Addr1=6000 Mask=ff01 Range=256
kernel: hamcore_init
kernel: hamcore_init:done
kernel: ham:init:uart
kernel: ham:init:serialdriver
kernel: ham:init:serial driver registered
kernel: ham:init:callout driver registered
kernel: ham:init:rs_event_bh initialized
kernel: CSLIP: code copyright 1989 Regents of the University of California
kernel: PPP: version 2.3.7 (demand dialling)
kernel: PPP line discipline registered.
kernel: registered device ppp0
pppd[163]: pppd 2.3.11 started by root, uid 0
chat[164]: Can't get terminal parameters: Input/output error
pppd[163]: Connect script failed
pppd[163]: Exit.


"Can't get terminal parameters: Input/output error" means what?


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Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 10:00 AM
Subject: Re: 2 questions


> On Fri, Feb 22, 2002 at 09:07:40AM +0800, a wrote:
> | i have 2 debians: 2.1 and 2.2. the 1st question is about 2.1 and the 2nd
is
> | about 2.2.
>
> Oh, ok.  If the slink box isn't too underpowered (ie a 386 with 5MB
> RAM) then I recommend upgrading it.  I'm currently getting my 486 box
> up to woody (and kernel 2.4) to serve as a router (and maybe a
> secondary MX).
>
> | ttyS3 is  the port used by modem in MS-Windows, its irq is 10.
> | i type "pon" and there is no ring from the modem.
> | then i type plog. it says something like "connect script fails and exit"
>
> Look in /var/log/syslog then.  (I think that's what 'plog' does
> anyways)  There should be a whole bunch of entries for each thing the
> chat script did.  That should at least show you how far it got before
> it failed.  To debug it, use 'minicom' to manually interact with the
> modem and determine what sequence of expect-send pairs will configure
> the modem (namely to turn off the speaker), dial the other side, and
> initiate a PPP connection.  When you have worked it out manually (the
> interactivity of the method really helps) you can record it in a "chat
> script" which 'pon' will use next time you connect.  For more details
> on minicom and chat scripts and the linux architecture in this area,
> read the modem howto on linuxdoc.org.
>
> -D
>
> --
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> Windows, hmmm, does it come with a GUI interface that works or just
> pretty blue screens?
>
>

Re: 2 questions

[Osamu Aoki]

On Thu, Feb 21, 2002 at 08:52:23PM -0500, dman wrote:
> It isn't too surprising that it still has a 2.0 kernel packaged for
> it,  (in fact, .38 must be fairly new since I thought the 2.0 series
> ended at .36) but the installer uses a 2.2 kernel.

Yes.  But some people likes 2.0 over 2.2 for some reasons.  (Do not ask
me why)  My point was, as you noticed, that 2.0 was available and kept up
to date in potato.

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Re: 2 questions

[dman]

On Fri, Feb 22, 2002 at 09:07:40AM +0800, a wrote:
| i have 2 debians: 2.1 and 2.2. the 1st question is about 2.1 and the 2nd is
| about 2.2.

Oh, ok.  If the slink box isn't too underpowered (ie a 386 with 5MB
RAM) then I recommend upgrading it.  I'm currently getting my 486 box
up to woody (and kernel 2.4) to serve as a router (and maybe a
secondary MX).

| ttyS3 is  the port used by modem in MS-Windows, its irq is 10.
| i type "pon" and there is no ring from the modem.
| then i type plog. it says something like "connect script fails and exit"

Look in /var/log/syslog then.  (I think that's what 'plog' does
anyways)  There should be a whole bunch of entries for each thing the
chat script did.  That should at least show you how far it got before
it failed.  To debug it, use 'minicom' to manually interact with the
modem and determine what sequence of expect-send pairs will configure
the modem (namely to turn off the speaker), dial the other side, and
initiate a PPP connection.  When you have worked it out manually (the
interactivity of the method really helps) you can record it in a "chat
script" which 'pon' will use next time you connect.  For more details
on minicom and chat scripts and the linux architecture in this area,
read the modem howto on linuxdoc.org.

-D

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Re: 2 questions

[dman]

On Thu, Feb 21, 2002 at 05:21:07PM -0800, Osamu Aoki wrote:
| On Thu, Feb 21, 2002 at 07:51:55PM -0500, dman wrote:
 
| > Debian 2.2 (aka "potato") comes with kernel 2.2.20 now, and AFAIK, has
| > always had a 2.2.x kernel.  
| 
| No it does not look like so.  Stable potato always and still have 2.0
| kernel.

The first time I installed potato I got kernel 2.2.16 (and RH 7.0 had
2.2.17, IIRC).  That was over a year ago.  More recent versions of
boot-floppies used 2.2.18pre21.  (or something like that, I remember
because there were lots of "what's 'pre'?" questions)

| It is ultrastable so version number does not change as
| frequently.
| 
| $ apt-cache policy kernel-image-2.0.38
| kernel-image-2.0.38:
|   Installed: (none)
|   Candidate: 2.0.38-3
|   Version Table:
|  2.0.38-3 0
| 500 http://http.us.debian.org stable/main Packages

It isn't too surprising that it still has a 2.0 kernel packaged for
it,  (in fact, .38 must be fairly new since I thought the 2.0 series
ended at .36) but the installer uses a 2.2 kernel.

$ apt-cache policy kernel-image-2.2.19
kernel-image-2.2.19:
  Installed: (none)
  Candidate: 2.2.19-4potato.5
  Version Table:
 2.2.19-4potato.5 0
500 http://http.us.debian.org potato/main Packages
 2.2.19-2 0
500 http://security.debian.org stable/updates/main Packages

-D

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Re: 2 questions

[Osamu Aoki]

On Thu, Feb 21, 2002 at 07:51:55PM -0500, dman wrote:
> On Fri, Feb 22, 2002 at 08:38:55AM +0800, a wrote:
> | i compile kernel 2.0.36. everything else seems OK except modprobe complain
> | it can't locate char-major-10

iWhat was minor?  If 135, it is RTC.

alias char-major-10-135 rtc

You foregot to enable it when compiling kernel.  If you configure kernel
right, it will not complain and this is harmless if you do not use them.
Check "man update-modules"

> | i have a Ham modem and debian 2.2. i compile the linux driver and
> install | it. but pon fails. i use the command below: | setserial
> /dev/ttyS3 irq 10 | but it does not help.

May be you do not have serial device.

> Debian 2.2 (aka "potato") comes with kernel 2.2.20 now, and AFAIK, has
> always had a 2.2.x kernel.  

No it does not look like so.  Stable potato always and still have 2.0
kernel.  It is ultrastable so version number does not change as
frequently.

$ apt-cache policy kernel-image-2.0.38
kernel-image-2.0.38:
  Installed: (none)
  Candidate: 2.0.38-3
  Version Table:
 2.0.38-3 0
500 http://http.us.debian.org stable/main Packages

> Your 2.0.36 kernel is extremely old (it
> was what I had when I first saw linux, RH 5.2).  First I would get a
> recent kernel.  Either 2.2.20 or 2.4.17 (I am using the latter).  Then
> check which serial device your modem is plugged in to.  It may not be
> ttyS3.  If you still don't get it to work, then come back and tell us
> what you tried and the exact error messages you got.

You can download newer precompiled one from Debian, too.  Start from
there before compiling kernel.  Also read basic documents on Debian.


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Re: 2 questions

[a]

i have 2 debians: 2.1 and 2.2. the 1st question is about 2.1 and the 2nd is
about 2.2.

ttyS3 is  the port used by modem in MS-Windows, its irq is 10.
i type "pon" and there is no ring from the modem.
then i type plog. it says something like "connect script fails and exit"

- Original Message -
From: "dman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 8:51 AM
Subject: Re: 2 questions


> On Fri, Feb 22, 2002 at 08:38:55AM +0800, a wrote:
> | i compile kernel 2.0.36. everything else seems OK except modprobe
complain
> | it can't locate char-major-10
> |
> | i have a Ham modem and debian 2.2. i compile the linux driver and
install
> | it. but pon fails. i use the command below:
> | setserial /dev/ttyS3 irq 10
> | but it does not help.
>
> Debian 2.2 (aka "potato") comes with kernel 2.2.20 now, and AFAIK, has
> always had a 2.2.x kernel.  Your 2.0.36 kernel is extremely old (it
> was what I had when I first saw linux, RH 5.2).  First I would get a
> recent kernel.  Either 2.2.20 or 2.4.17 (I am using the latter).  Then
> check which serial device your modem is plugged in to.  It may not be
> ttyS3.  If you still don't get it to work, then come back and tell us
> what you tried and the exact error messages you got.
>
> -D
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Re: 2 questions

[dman]

On Fri, Feb 22, 2002 at 08:38:55AM +0800, a wrote:
| i compile kernel 2.0.36. everything else seems OK except modprobe complain
| it can't locate char-major-10
| 
| i have a Ham modem and debian 2.2. i compile the linux driver and install
| it. but pon fails. i use the command below:
| setserial /dev/ttyS3 irq 10
| but it does not help.

Debian 2.2 (aka "potato") comes with kernel 2.2.20 now, and AFAIK, has
always had a 2.2.x kernel.  Your 2.0.36 kernel is extremely old (it
was what I had when I first saw linux, RH 5.2).  First I would get a
recent kernel.  Either 2.2.20 or 2.4.17 (I am using the latter).  Then
check which serial device your modem is plugged in to.  It may not be
ttyS3.  If you still don't get it to work, then come back and tell us
what you tried and the exact error messages you got.

-D

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Re: 2 questions

[Pietro Cagnoni]

> 1.how to fsck /dev/hda3 which is root? it's mounted rw, and fsck warns it is
> dangerous to check it.

this is the safest way, but it needs a reboot:

touch /forcefsck
init 6

this will force a full fsck on all your partitions.
if you set FSCKFIX=yes in /etc/default/rcS, everything will happen
automagically.

pietro.

Re: 2 questions

[Hay Seed]

> 2.in MS-Windows, the monitor is turned down (the
> LED blinks) after
> a period of in-activity. In X, it just blanks.
> what is the
> difference? how to make the LED blinks in X?
> 

Blanktime, StandbyTime, SuspendTime and OffTime in the
"Screen" section of /etc/X11/XF86Config.  
See man XF86Config.  Note that this has never worked
perfectly for me.  My monitor will go into standby and
suspend, but doesn't see to always do it at the times
I have set.

Note also, that this will only work if and while you
are running X.  Without X (just running at a command
prompt with no windowing environment) the screen will
just blank.  This blanking is done in the kernel
config I think.  Can't help you with that.  

The kernel blanking will also take effect while
running X.  This means that if you set BlankTime to
something longer than the kernel's blanktime, or don't
set it at all, you still going to get the kernel
blanking, unless someone else can tell you how to
change the default blanking that Linux does without X.

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Re: 2 questions

[Gustavo Noronha Silva]

On Sat, 9 Feb 2002 16:34:39 -0800 (PST)
"nate" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> > 2.in MS-Windows, the monitor is turned down (the LED blinks) after
> > a period of in-activity. In X, it just blanks. what is the
> > difference? how to make the LED blinks in X?
> 
> not sure, i don't trust APM, i rather turn my monitor off
> with the switch then trust APM to do it for me.
I don't think this is related to APM... this seems to be related
to DPMS... try xset --help and check the DPMS options

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Re: 2 questions

[nate]

> 1.how to fsck /dev/hda3 which is root? it's mounted rw, and fsck
> warns it is dangerous to check it.

to do it without rebooting:
init 1
mount / -o remount,ro
e2fsck /dev/hda3
mount / -o remount,rw
init 2

if you have other partitions mounted you have to unmount them
first (umount /mountpoint)

>
> 2.in MS-Windows, the monitor is turned down (the LED blinks) after
> a period of in-activity. In X, it just blanks. what is the
> difference? how to make the LED blinks in X?

not sure, i don't trust APM, i rather turn my monitor off
with the switch then trust APM to do it for me.

nate

Re: 2 questions: Sylpheed & Mozilla

[Ross Boylan]

KDE has a feature in which if a URL goes into the paste buffer it
offers to open a browser.  At least if you're in a Konsole this is
what happens.

There's a little bug so that it won't open mozilla properly when you
do this.  Supposedly a fix is coming.

This is probably different from your problem, but I thought I'd
mention it just in case.

On Fri, Jan 11, 2002 at 01:34:19PM -0800, Curtis Vaughan wrote:
> On Friday 11 January 2002 12:19, Mario Vukelic wrote:
> > On Fri, 2002-01-11 at 21:07, Curtis Vaughan wrote:
> > > The Sylpheed question is rather easy, I hope.
> > > How do you uninstall it?  Just delete directories?
> >
> > How did you install it? If from source, there is probably a "uninstall"
> > target in the source directory. cd /your/sylpheed/source/dir; make
> > uninstall
> >
> > If with apt/dselect: apt-get remove sylpheed
> 
> Ok, make uninstall seems to have disabled it, but the directories are all 
> still there.  Is it Ok to delete them?
> 
> >
> > > Earlier I asked about how to make Mozilla my default browser.  Ok, I got
> > > that to work, but now I have different problem.  Say, for example, I have
> > > a hyperlink in a letter.
> >
> > You've got to provide more info with your questions: In what program do
> > you type that letter. Do you use Gnome or KDE? Mpzilla is now your
> > default browser for what? Where and how did you set it?
> 
> I'm using KDE.  To make Mozilla my default browser, I went to File 
> Associations. Under I found html under the "text" section of "known types" 
> and added Mozilla Navigator (the command line being just "mozilla").  Then I 
> actually just removed the other programs listed there.  I think only 
> Kommander was listed there.  For whatever reason there are 2 html file type 
> listings, so I did this under both.  By the way, trying to add Kommander back 
> in doesn't work.  In fact, if I even click on the Kommander Web Browser icon, 
> nothing happens.   I can, of course, open Kommander and then type in an 
> address and it will work.
> 
> KMail is the email client program I am using.
> 
> > > Also, and perhaps related, is the
> > > fact that you can't copy an address and paste it into the address space
> > > for Mozilla.
> >
> > I can with Ctrl-C Ctrl-V in Gnome. Also you can mark the address with
> > the mouse and insert it with a middle-click. Alternatively you can
> > middle-click somewhere in the mozilla window (make sure not to hit a
> > link) and it will go there
> 
> Clicking on hyperlinks within Mozilla works.  But if the hyperlink is in any 
> other application, it won't work.  Mozilla opens on a blank page.
> 
> Curtis
> 
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Re: 2 questions: Sylpheed & Mozilla

[Mario Vukelic]

On Fri, 2002-01-11 at 22:34, Curtis Vaughan wrote:
> Ok, make uninstall seems to have disabled it, but the directories are all 
> still there.  Is it Ok to delete them?

If they are empty it's probably ok to rm them.

> I'm using KDE.

Sorry, I don't now anything about that

> Clicking on hyperlinks within Mozilla works.  But if the hyperlink is in any 
> other application, it won't work.  Mozilla opens on a blank page.

Probably also a KDE issue?

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Re: 2 questions: Sylpheed & Mozilla

[Curtis Vaughan]

On Friday 11 January 2002 12:19, Mario Vukelic wrote:
> On Fri, 2002-01-11 at 21:07, Curtis Vaughan wrote:
> > The Sylpheed question is rather easy, I hope.
> > How do you uninstall it?  Just delete directories?
>
> How did you install it? If from source, there is probably a "uninstall"
> target in the source directory. cd /your/sylpheed/source/dir; make
> uninstall
>
> If with apt/dselect: apt-get remove sylpheed

Ok, make uninstall seems to have disabled it, but the directories are all 
still there.  Is it Ok to delete them?

>
> > Earlier I asked about how to make Mozilla my default browser.  Ok, I got
> > that to work, but now I have different problem.  Say, for example, I have
> > a hyperlink in a letter.
>
> You've got to provide more info with your questions: In what program do
> you type that letter. Do you use Gnome or KDE? Mpzilla is now your
> default browser for what? Where and how did you set it?

I'm using KDE.  To make Mozilla my default browser, I went to File 
Associations. Under I found html under the "text" section of "known types" 
and added Mozilla Navigator (the command line being just "mozilla").  Then I 
actually just removed the other programs listed there.  I think only 
Kommander was listed there.  For whatever reason there are 2 html file type 
listings, so I did this under both.  By the way, trying to add Kommander back 
in doesn't work.  In fact, if I even click on the Kommander Web Browser icon, 
nothing happens.   I can, of course, open Kommander and then type in an 
address and it will work.

KMail is the email client program I am using.

> > Also, and perhaps related, is the
> > fact that you can't copy an address and paste it into the address space
> > for Mozilla.
>
> I can with Ctrl-C Ctrl-V in Gnome. Also you can mark the address with
> the mouse and insert it with a middle-click. Alternatively you can
> middle-click somewhere in the mozilla window (make sure not to hit a
> link) and it will go there

Clicking on hyperlinks within Mozilla works.  But if the hyperlink is in any 
other application, it won't work.  Mozilla opens on a blank page.

Curtis

Re: 2 questions: Sylpheed & Mozilla

[Craig Dickson]

Curtis Vaughan wrote:

> The Sylpheed question is rather easy, I hope.
> How do you uninstall it?  Just delete directories?

How did you install it? If you used a .deb package, then

  dpkg -P sylpheed

should do the trick.

If you compiled it yourself, and installed it with "make install", then
you could try "make uninstall" in the Sylpheed source directory.

> Mozilla:
> Earlier I asked about how to make Mozilla my default browser.  Ok, I got that 
> to work, but now I have different problem.  Say, for example, I have a 
> hyperlink in a letter.  If I tap on it, Mozilla starts up, but with a blank 
> page.  It doesn't go to the hyperlink.

That would probably have to do with how the program in which you see
this link (your mail client, or X terminal if you use a text-mode mail
client) handles embedded URLs. Since you're wanting to uninstall
Sylpheed, there's no point in configuring it properly, so what other
mail client do you use? If it's a text-mode app, then what X terminal do
you use (xterm, rxvt, gnome-terminal...)? Once you tell us what software
is involved, someone can tell you how to configure it.

> Also, and perhaps related, is the 
> fact that you can't copy an address and paste it into the address space for 
> Mozilla.  

I do that all the time. Sounds like whatever program you're copying the
text from isn't doing it right. What program is that?

Craig


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Re: 2 questions: Sylpheed & Mozilla

[Mario Vukelic]

On Fri, 2002-01-11 at 21:07, Curtis Vaughan wrote:
> The Sylpheed question is rather easy, I hope.
> How do you uninstall it?  Just delete directories?

How did you install it? If from source, there is probably a "uninstall"
target in the source directory. cd /your/sylpheed/source/dir; make
uninstall

If with apt/dselect: apt-get remove sylpheed
 
> Earlier I asked about how to make Mozilla my default browser.  Ok, I got that 
> to work, but now I have different problem.  Say, for example, I have a 
> hyperlink in a letter. 

You've got to provide more info with your questions: In what program do
you type that letter. Do you use Gnome or KDE? Mpzilla is now your
default browser for what? Where and how did you set it?

> Also, and perhaps related, is the 
> fact that you can't copy an address and paste it into the address space for 
> Mozilla.  

I can with Ctrl-C Ctrl-V in Gnome. Also you can mark the address with
the mouse and insert it with a middle-click. Alternatively you can
middle-click somewhere in the mozilla window (make sure not to hit a
link) and it will go there

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Re: 2 questions package installs and TCP/IP startup script

[Peter Palfrader]

Hi Mark!

On Sun, 27 Aug 2000, Mark Simos wrote:

> 1.
> I am trying to install vim on a really bare installation of Debian. I
> have internet access that routes and resolves names fine.
> 
> When I type "apt-get install vim vim-rt" or just about any other package
> name i see listed on Debian's site, i get back "E: Couldn't find package
> vim"
> 
> I don't know where to begin troubleshooting this...

You probably don't have updated apt-gets database. If your
/etc/apt/sources.list
is correct, you should run
apt-get update

after this
apt-get install vim
should work.

A sample sources.list could look like this:

deb http://ftp.at.debian.org/debian potato main contrib non-free
deb http://ftp.at.debian.org/debian-non-US potato/non-US main contrib non-free
deb-src http://ftp.at.debian.org/debian potato main contrib non-free
deb-src http://ftp.at.debian.org/debian-non-US potato/non-US main contrib 
non-free


> 2.
> Also I am not quite sure where to put my "ifconfig eth0." and "route
> add default" statements so they run on bootup
> 
> Thank you and please forgive my windows roots :),

Configure your
/etc/network/interfaces
file. An example can be founc in
/usr/share/doc/netbase/examples/interfaces

If this is done /etc/init.d/networking should automatically configure
your interfaces upon boot.

HTH
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Re: 2 questions

[kmself]

On Fri, Jul 30, 1999 at 02:56:53AM +0800, Li Wei wrote:

Fix your system date

> I have Debian 2.0. Where is the package festival? 
> festvox-kdlpc8k depends on it. BTW do you know any text2speech software?

$ dpkg -S speak
speak-freely
Emacspeak-HOWTO

...though you might want to talk to someone who's actually used it.

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Re: 2 questions on apt-get

[John Pearson]

On Sun, Jan 02, 2000 at 12:50:49PM +0100, Ulrich Hansmair wrote
> hi freaks,
> 
> recently I´m using apt-get to install my potato. I think this way of
> distributing debian is a great step into future and perfectly combines  the
> abilities of the internet and free software. Debian should go this way.
> 
> Now to the questions. 
> 1. After apt-get update/upgrade I always get the standard kernel-image and
> pcmcia-modules which overwrites my own compiled versions. How can I exclude
> this packages from being upgraded?

With kernel-images, build them using make-kpkg with a command line like
 # make-kpkg --revision=ulrich.0 kernel-image
and the revision string will appear 'newer' than any official version, 
ensuring they don't get replaced.  Use a similar revision string for
your pcmcia-modules.

> 2.apt-get upgrade gives the following message:
> 
> ...
> The following packages have been kept back:
> dpkg-dev kernel-package perl perl-base
> ...
> 
> I wanna this packages be included in the normal upgrade-procedure. What is the
> appropriate action?
> 

 # apt-get dist-upgrade 
may help; if you want to see just what the problem is, try (e.g.)
 # apt-get -s install dpkg-dev
and apt-get will tell you what would be required.  Chances are the newer
versions depend on a package you don't currently have installed, or perhaps
conflict with one that you do.  If you are happy for apt to proceed, you
can upgrade them by running the command again without the '-s'.


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Re: 2 questions on apt-get

[Edward Kear]

At 06:40 AM 1/2/00 -0800, Fish Smith wrote:

>hi freaks,

Who's a freak??

>1. After apt-get update/upgrade I always get the
>standard kernel-image
>and
>pcmcia-modules which overwrites my own compiled
>versions. How can I
>exclude
>this packages from being upgraded?

I would backup the compiled ones, then put a script
into your shutdown sequence that replaces them with
the backups.  There's probably a better solution, but
this is how I'd do it.


Or...use dselect to mark the package "hold" - find the package using / and 
put it on hold with a =


then simulate the dist-upgrade just to be sure
apt-get -s dist-upgrade

 Ed

Re: 2 questions on apt-get

[Fish Smith]

>hi freaks,

Who's a freak??

>1. After apt-get update/upgrade I always get the
>standard kernel-image
>and
>pcmcia-modules which overwrites my own compiled
>versions. How can I
>exclude
>this packages from being upgraded?

I would backup the compiled ones, then put a script
into your shutdown sequence that replaces them with
the backups.  There's probably a better solution, but
this is how I'd do it.

>2.apt-get upgrade gives the following message:
>
>...
>The following packages have been kept back:
>dpkg-dev kernel-package perl perl-base
>...

>I wanna this packages be included in the normal
>upgrade-procedure. What
>is the
>appropriate action?

Well, I'd answer, but considering I've just been
called a freak here... =)  Okay, ya got me, I really
don't know this one.

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Re: 2 questions on apt-get

[Brian Servis]

*- On  2 Jan, Oliver Elphick wrote about "Re: 2 questions on apt-get "
> Ulrich Hansmair wrote:
>   >2.apt-get upgrade gives the following message:
>   >
>   >...
>   >The following packages have been kept back:
>   >dpkg-dev kernel-package perl perl-base
>   >...
>   >
>   >I wanna this packages be included in the normal upgrade-procedure. What is 
> t
>   >he
>   >appropriate action?
> 
> They are kept back because of dependencies on some other packages; these
> dependencies cannot be satisfied if they are upgraded. 
> 
> You must either remove packages that are causing the problem, or wait for
> new versions of the problem packages to become available, or (if you
> know what you are doing) force the installation of the packages you
> want upgraded.
> 

Read the apt-get man page.  You probably want to run 'apt-get
dist-upgrade' and not 'apt-get upgrade'.  The upgrade option will not
remove or change other packages status(i.e. packages will be held back).
Or start dselect, select [U]pdate, select [S]elect, hit space, hit
return(probably a few times as it sorts out depenencies/conflicts),
select [I]nstall.

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Re: 2 questions on apt-get

[Oliver Elphick]

Ulrich Hansmair wrote:
  >1. After apt-get update/upgrade I always get the standard kernel-image and
  >pcmcia-modules which overwrites my own compiled versions. How can I exclude
  >this packages from being upgraded?

Read the docs for kernel package and use --revision=... when building your
own kernel.  You have to ensure that your local kernel .deb is a later
release than the standard one.

  >2.apt-get upgrade gives the following message:
  >
  >...
  >The following packages have been kept back:
  >dpkg-dev kernel-package perl perl-base
  >...
  >
  >I wanna this packages be included in the normal upgrade-procedure. What is t
  >he
  >appropriate action?

They are kept back because of dependencies on some other packages; these
dependencies cannot be satisfied if they are upgraded. 

You must either remove packages that are causing the problem, or wait for
new versions of the problem packages to become available, or (if you
know what you are doing) force the installation of the packages you
want upgraded.

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Re: 2 questions

[Stephan Engelke]

On Tue, Jun 01, 1999 at 01:22:21PM +0100, Mario Jorge Nunes Filipe wrote:
> Hi
> 
> I have two questions to pose to the enlightened ones in this mailing
> list (boy am i poetic today, maybe because a I've a couple of
> presentations to do today :( ):
> 
> Number 1 : Is there a way to allow the users to create an auto-responder
> (so that their email sents a message for every message they got) saying
> that they are on hollidays. 

Vacation is your friend here.

> The ideal would be the possibility to create filters so that the auto
> responder does not awnser to mailing-lists or a certain number of
> addresses. Can this be done ?

You may want to play around with procmail to achieve this - check the
procmail and procmailex man-pages (or was it procmailexamples?) and read
up on formail.
Procmail can be configured to include the functionality of vacation - 
it just requires a more elaborate setup.

> Number 2 : Is there any linux app capable of showing MS Media Player asf
> files? 

Dunno.

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Re: 2 questions

[Jean-Yves F. Barbier]

Mario Jorge Nunes Filipe wrote:
> 
> Number 1 : Is there a way to allow the users to create an auto-responder
> (so that their email sents a message for every message they got) saying
> that they are on hollidays. I know, I know this things suck and they are
> extremely anoying but the some people here are starting to request them
> and as sys admin (kinf of) i have to be able to give them some anwsers.
> The ideal would be the possibility to create filters so that the auto
> responder does not awnser to mailing-lists or a certain number of
> addresses. Can this be done ?

Yeah, even saying: "whatever the number of e-mail you send, this will be the
only answer you'll get":
see: Mail-HOWTO

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Re: 2 Questions

[Marsh Ray]

On Sun, Apr 11, 1999 at 02:30:05AM -0500, Chris Hoover wrote:
> 1.  How can I get my machine to automatically start fetchmail after
> a reboot?  Also, how do I have it ran by a user other than root
> (it is only setup to run as me right now)?

Debian's boot process is fairly well-described at:
http://www.debian.org/doc/FAQ/debian-faq-12.html#ss12.5

Change the owner of your script to you and set its setuid bit.

$ chown myusername thefilename
$ chmod u+s thefilename

Be extra careful about access permissions when you do this because
other users may be able to execute this script as you.

> 2.  Is there a way to script the startup of a remote program?  I want
> to have wmmon and wmppp start up every time I log into my machine.
> However they are located on my other linux box.

You can use ssh (or rsh for that matter) to connect and run the file.  This can 
be kind of complicated to set up since you don't want to have to type your 
password.  But basically, you'd be putting a command like 'ssh my.machine.name 
my_command_name' in your .bashrc.  The target computer would need to be running 
sshd.  On the local computer ask ssh to generate a key pair (ssh-keygen), and 
append the public key it generates to the file ~/.ssh/authorized_keys on the 
remote computer.

Re: 2 questions

[Ramiel Givergis]

At 09:33 AM 2/24/99 -0600, Andrei Ivanov wrote:
>> 2) For some reason pppd disconnects after some amount of time all by
>> itself.  I want it to stay up 24/7. I did see in dmesg that the PPP has
>> demand dialing. I do not want this.  I want it to go up and come down when
>> I tell it.
>
>Thats probably your ISP kicking you off. Mine has a 2 hour limit.
>
>Andrew

Woops, I misunderstood... you want it to connect after you get droped.
Add "persist"



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Re: 2 questions

[Ramiel Givergis]

At 09:33 AM 2/24/99 -0600, Andrei Ivanov wrote:
>> 2) For some reason pppd disconnects after some amount of time all by
>> itself.  I want it to stay up 24/7. I did see in dmesg that the PPP has
>> demand dialing. I do not want this.  I want it to go up and come down when
>> I tell it.
>
>Thats probably your ISP kicking you off. Mine has a 2 hour limit.
>
>Andrew

I work at an ISP and what we have is an 18 hours limit per calls and at
peak times when we get near filling up the modems (8PM - 11PM) there is
a 4 hour limit.  Also there is a 30 min inactivity limit.

The reason your dialer keeps dialing is because the script has the
word "persist" in it.  Take it out and it won't do that.





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Re: 2 questions

[Andrei Ivanov]

> > Thats probably your ISP kicking you off. Mine has a 2 hour limit.
> 
> Try pppupd to get around no-traffic limits.  For pure time limits... ?

pppupd doesnt do what I need, since my ISP has dynamic IP allocation.
I use a shell script I wrote instead.
The source is availible on my homepage (it's a very first version, better
one is in works right now)
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Re: 2 questions

[Jesse Jacobsen]

On 02/24/99 at 09:33:16, Andrei Ivanov wrote concerning "Re: 2 questions":
> > 2) For some reason pppd disconnects after some amount of time all by
> > itself.  I want it to stay up 24/7. I did see in dmesg that the PPP has
> > demand dialing. I do not want this.  I want it to go up and come down when
> > I tell it.
> 
> Thats probably your ISP kicking you off. Mine has a 2 hour limit.

Try pppupd to get around no-traffic limits.  For pure time limits... ?

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Re: 2 questions

[Andrei Ivanov]

> 2) For some reason pppd disconnects after some amount of time all by
> itself.  I want it to stay up 24/7. I did see in dmesg that the PPP has
> demand dialing. I do not want this.  I want it to go up and come down when
> I tell it.

Thats probably your ISP kicking you off. Mine has a 2 hour limit.

Andrew

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Re: 2 questions

[Paul McDermott]

hello again, this is a reply to my own message.  I have found a way to
overlap one image onto another on my web page.  There is a program in the
imagemagick package called combine.  It did exactly what I wanted.  If
anyone had a similar experience try the combine command.
Thanks for the help.
Paul

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On Tue, 24 Mar 1998, Adam Edwards wrote:

At 09:19 AM 3/23/98 -0500, Paul McDermott wrote:
>a picture every minute and it is put on my web page.  I want to have my
>updated quickcam image overlayed onto the quickcam window image.  My
>question is.  Can I? and How do I do it in html.  I've looked through the
>html help files in lynx and I can't seem to find the answer.  I hope this
>is understable to you and you have some suggestions.  Thanks for your
>help.
I could be wrong but... assuming you use the same name for the picture 
as
you referenced in the img tag of the html file you should be able to use
the meta refresh tag with a setting of 60.  This will force most later
browsers to refetch the contents of the page. (html and associated images)
This would result in the new image of the same name to overwrite the old on
the display and in the users cache.
I'm sure there are more elegant solutions. (This one forces a complete
reload of all text and images on the page, IIRC, not just reloading the
picture.)  It should do what you want though.

My .02,
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Re: 2 questions

[Adam Edwards]

At 09:19 AM 3/23/98 -0500, Paul McDermott wrote:
>a picture every minute and it is put on my web page.  I want to have my
>updated quickcam image overlayed onto the quickcam window image.  My
>question is.  Can I? and How do I do it in html.  I've looked through the
>html help files in lynx and I can't seem to find the answer.  I hope this
>is understable to you and you have some suggestions.  Thanks for your
>help.
I could be wrong but... assuming you use the same name for the picture 
as
you referenced in the img tag of the html file you should be able to use
the meta refresh tag with a setting of 60.  This will force most later
browsers to refetch the contents of the page. (html and associated images)
This would result in the new image of the same name to overwrite the old on
the display and in the users cache.
I'm sure there are more elegant solutions. (This one forces a complete
reload of all text and images on the page, IIRC, not just reloading the
picture.)  It should do what you want though.

My .02,
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Re: 2 questions

[Bob Clark]

Concerning your first question, you ought to look at the
"mirror" package.  It takes care of the cleanup task for
you.

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Paul McDermott wrote:
> 
> hello everybody thank you for all of your help.  I am using wget to
> mirror the debian site or part of it anyways.  My question is this: Is
> there a flag to delete files when wget downloads a newer version of the
> same package. I have to clear my ftp site once a week because i run out of
> space.  I did read the documentation and could not find the answer,
> The second question is concerning html.  I grabbed the quickcam window and
> saved the file as a gif.  I have my connectic quickcam automatically take
> a picture every minute and it is put on my web page.  I want to have my
> updated quickcam image overlayed onto the quickcam window image.  My
> question is.  Can I? and How do I do it in html.  I've looked through the
> html help files in lynx and I can't seem to find the answer.  I hope this
> is understable to you and you have some suggestions.  Thanks for your
> help.
> 
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Re: 2 questions...

[Martin Schulze]

On Fri, Jan 16, 1998 at 02:23:43PM -0700, Mike Patterson wrote:
> 
> Ok, actually, I lied. Three. The first is: I haven't been getting any traffic
> from the list lately.. has something happened? For that reason, I'd appreciate
> a cc of any responses...

You're not subscribed anymore.  I've put on on the list again.  Seems
your mailsystem was sending out bounces so the list server unsubscribed
you.

> First real question: I want to mount a directory on another system. How 
> do I do this? I thought it would be in the mount man pages, but I guess I'm
> wrong. I assume that there must be something else out there I'm missing 
> (I assume dealing with NFS)

Yep, nfs is good,  you could use samba, too.

On the server:

edit /etc/exports
start rpc.portmap (look at /etc/init.d/netstd_nfs)

On the client

either

mount -s nfs server:/direc/tor/y /he/re

or 

edit /etc/fstab.

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Re: Re[2]: questions: Non-internet connected IP Address default ???

[Nathan E Norman]

Following up my verbose message ...

One place you can find all the RFCs in a browsable format is
http://rfc.fh-koeln.de/doc/rfc/html/rfc.html

I find using the browser a bit easier than ftping the RFCs from internic
or wherever ...

: On Wed, 10 Dec 1997, Sen Nagata wrote:
: 
: : about private ip address spaces:
: : 
: : Address Allocation for Private Internets is rfc 1597
: :   http://www.internic.net/rfc/rfc1597.txt
: : 
: : people may want to have a look at:
: : 
: :   http://www.clock.org/~fair/opinion/rfc1597.html
: : 
: : which also talks about:
: : 
: : Network 10 Considered Harmful 
: :   (Some Practices Shouldn't be Codified) which is rfc 1627
: :   http://www.internic.net/rfc/rfc1597.txt
: :   
: : -sen
: 
: Both of these RFCs are obseleted by RFC 1918

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Re: Re[2]: questions: Non-internet connected IP Address default ???

[Nathan E Norman]

On Wed, 10 Dec 1997, Sen Nagata wrote:

: about private ip address spaces:
: 
: Address Allocation for Private Internets is rfc 1597
:   http://www.internic.net/rfc/rfc1597.txt
: 
: people may want to have a look at:
: 
:   http://www.clock.org/~fair/opinion/rfc1597.html
: 
: which also talks about:
: 
: Network 10 Considered Harmful 
:   (Some Practices Shouldn't be Codified) which is rfc 1627
:   http://www.internic.net/rfc/rfc1597.txt
:   
: -sen

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Re[2]: questions: Non-internet connected IP Address default ???

[Sen Nagata]

about private ip address spaces:

Address Allocation for Private Internets is rfc 1597
  http://www.internic.net/rfc/rfc1597.txt

people may want to have a look at:

  http://www.clock.org/~fair/opinion/rfc1597.html

which also talks about:

Network 10 Considered Harmful 
  (Some Practices Shouldn't be Codified) which is rfc 1627
  http://www.internic.net/rfc/rfc1597.txt
  
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Re: 2 questions.....

[Yves Arrouye]

   Second is a question with Ghostscript, I use gs to print postscript files on
   my deskjet.  Now I use a function in my .bashrc to invoke it.  The only
   problem is that when it is done printing I get the GS> prompt and have to
   type "quit" to finish printing and eject the paper.  Is there a way or
   option to use that will finish printing and eject the paper automatically?

Instead of saying something like

gs options -sInputFile=somefile.ps

use

gs options - 

Re: 2 questions.....

[Gilbert Ramirez Jr.]

> Second is a question with Ghostscript, I use gs to print postscript files on
> my deskjet.  Now I use a function in my .bashrc to invoke it.  The only
> problem is that when it is done printing I get the GS> prompt and have to
> type "quit" to finish printing and eject the paper.  Is there a way or
> option to use that will finish printing and eject the paper automatically?

Instead of using gs directly, I'd use lpr, especially since lpr is the
standard Unix print command. Here's my entry in /etc/printcap

-(snip)
# /etc/printcap: printer capability database. See printcap(5).
# You can use the filter entries df, tf, cf, gf etc. for
# your own filters. See /etc/filter.ps, /etc/filter.pcl and
# the printcap(5) manual page for further details.
#:of=/etc/filter.pcl:

lp|My LJIIP pretending to be a Postscript printer:\
:lp=/dev/lp1:\
:if=/etc/filter.ps:\
:sh:
-(snip)


Then my /etc/filter.ps program is:


-(snip)
#!/bin/sh
# This is a simple filter for printing postscript files, (see /etc/printcap).

# HP Deskjet 500 printer device
#/usr/bin/gs -q -dSAFER -sDEVICE=djet500 -dNOPAUSE -sOutputFile=- -

# HP LJIIP
/usr/bin/gs -q -dSAFER -sDEVICE=ljet2p -dNOPAUSE -sOutputFile=- -
-(snip)

So, to print a postscript file, I just use lpr:

lpr filename

and lpr sends it to ghostscript, and re-routes gs's output to the printer.

> Thanks for any help
> 
> Andy
> 

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Re: 2 questions.....

[Paul Christenson]

Andy Tarkinson wrote:

> Second is a question with Ghostscript, I use gs to print postscript
> files on my deskjet.  Now I use a function in my .bashrc to invoke it.
> The only problem is that when it is done printing I get the GS> prompt
> and have to type "quit" to finish printing and eject the paper.  Is
> there a way or option to use that will finish printing and eject the
> paper automatically?

Check out apsfilter.  It does lots of neat things; you can dump
Postscript as well as ASCII (and a number of other formats) using lpr,
and it prints properly automatically.

Really easy to set up.

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Re: 2 questions.....

[Syrus Nemat-Nasser]

On Wed, 18 Sep 1996, Andy Tarkinson wrote:

> First is a problem with dircolors.  I had it working fine (I think) with
> "stable" then I upgraded to "unstable" where the color-ls package becomes
> obsolete.  In profile I have a few aliases setting up ls, dir, etc using
> color.  Also I have "eval 'dircolors -b'".  I have the file /etc/DIR_COLORS
> with the colors from Slackware, and also the same as ~/.dircolors.  Now I
> get a few colors like directories and permissions but no colors specific to
> extentions like .tgz, .jpg, .tar etc...  I've tried everything and can't get
> it to work properly.

I think you have to specify the path to your config file.  Here's some info I
keep around regarding this question:

With the integration of color-ls directly into the fileutils
package, a few things have changed.  dircolors no longer sets
up aliases or shell scripts to colorize ls, dir, and vdir.

Here is an excerpt from a .bashrc which sets up aliases after
running dircolors:

# set up color-ls
eval `dircolors /home/syrus/.dir_colors`
alias d='ls -F --color=auto'
alias v='ls -l --color=auto'
alias vdir='ls -l --color=auto'
alias dir='ls -F --color=auto'  
   

Note that color=tty has been changed to color=auto.  See the
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Re: 2 questions.....

[Brian C. White]

> Second is a question with Ghostscript, I use gs to print postscript files on
> my deskjet.  Now I use a function in my .bashrc to invoke it.  The only
> problem is that when it is done printing I get the GS> prompt and have to
> type "quit" to finish printing and eject the paper.  Is there a way or
> option to use that will finish printing and eject the paper automatically?

$ gs --help
[...]
 -c quit (as the last switch)
   exit after last file
[...]
 
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