Re: A smaller iso

2011-07-09 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Vi, 08 iul 11, 09:59:58, nikhil jain wrote:
 
 I don't think I'll be able to install with the expert mode...
 
Sure you are, see below :)

 The expert mode, however, really is for experts. Most of the time,
 a so-called expert mode is usually just a euphemism for more
 options, but the Debian installer expert mode actually requires
 that the user have a decent understanding of the Debian
 installation process.
 
 For example, after configuring networking and selecting the desired
 Debian repository, users are prompted to decide which installer
 components they would like to download. Many users will have no idea
 whether they need or want to use the esoteric CDROM drivers, EVMS
 module for debian-installer, or if they should load the debconf
 preseed module.

The rule if you don't know what it is you probably don't need it 
applies. The installer always had good defaults in such cases.

Regards,
Andrei
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Re: A smaller iso

2011-07-08 Thread Jérôme Heil

Hi

Le 08/07/2011 03:16, nikhil jain a écrit :

the 4.4 gb is too big for my internet connection(512kbps) .
I am looking for something ubuntu-like complete 500mb-2gb debian iso
(why not use ubuntu? because its buggy buggy buggy)

Maybe you could buy a CD or DVD http://www.debian.org/CD/vendors/ ?



I want to avoid the net installer , because my slow connection and the
weird debian installer makes it a royal pain (I have tried it before)

What do you mean by weird?



Most importantly I want the installer to have the option to install the
bootloader to the partition itself and not the MBR. when I tried w32
installer it didn't gave me the option.
I don't understand what do you mean with install the bootloader to the 
partition itself a bootloader can only sit in the MBR to be useful.




Do I have any option?
Thanks




Regards,
Jérôme


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Re: A smaller iso

2011-07-08 Thread Mahesh T Pai
nikhil jain nik.j...@gmail.com writes:

  the 4.4 gb is too big for my internet connection(512kbps) .
  I am looking for something ubuntu-like complete 500mb-2gb debian iso
  (why not use ubuntu? because its buggy buggy buggy)

I guess you are using the DVD image - try the CD image. Have a look at 

http://www.debian.org/CD/http-ftp/

  I want to avoid the net installer , because my slow connection and
  the weird debian installer makes it a royal pain (I have tried it
  before)

I have a 256 kbps connection, and have felt that a net installer is
adequate me. Sometimes, I get stingy and stick to business card ISO
(which is still smaller than the netinst). 


  Most importantly I want the installer to have the option to install
  the bootloader to the partition itself and not the MBR. when I tried
  w32 installer it didn't gave me the option.

Hope somebody else will help you here. IIRC, there is an option for this
when you select the Make system bootable option in the installer. 


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Re: A smaller iso

2011-07-08 Thread nikhil jain



I don't understand what do you mean with install the bootloader to the  
partition itself a bootloader can only sit in the MBR to be useful.


Basically I want to install linux as desribed here:  
http://www.frihost.com/forums/vt-33598.html


While installing linux, make sure you install the bootloader (Lilo/Grub)  
to the bootsector of the partition that you install it on ... NOT on the  
MBR.



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Re: A smaller iso

2011-07-08 Thread nikhil jain
On Fri, 08 Jul 2011 12:37:15 +0530, Mahesh T Pai paiva...@gmail.com  
wrote:



I guess you are using the DVD image - try the CD image. Have a look at
http://www.debian.org/CD/http-ftp/


Thanks. I guess this will be perfect for me?

http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/6.0.2.1/amd64/iso-cd/debian-6.0.2.1-amd64-kde-CD-1.iso


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Re: A smaller iso

2011-07-08 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Vi, 08 iul 11, 06:46:13, nikhil jain wrote:
 
[snip problem already solved]

 Most importantly I want the installer to have the option to install
 the bootloader to the partition itself  and not the MBR. when I
 tried w32 installer it didn't gave me the option.

When the installer asks Do you want to install Grub to MBR (or 
something like that) just answer No. You will then be given a choice 
of which drive or partition to install to.

It's possible the above question does not appear in a normal install, 
you might want to use expert mode or just use the Back button, it will 
take you to a menu with all installer steps and as far as I recall 
switches you to expert mode ;)

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Re: A smaller iso

2011-07-08 Thread nikhil jain
On Fri, 08 Jul 2011 14:55:07 +0530, Andrei POPESCU  
andreimpope...@gmail.com wrote:



On Vi, 08 iul 11, 06:46:13, nikhil jain wrote:
[snip problem already solved]


Most importantly I want the installer to have the option to install
the bootloader to the partition itself  and not the MBR. when I
tried w32 installer it didn't gave me the option.


When the installer asks Do you want to install Grub to MBR (or
something like that) just answer No. You will then be given a choice
of which drive or partition to install to.

It's possible the above question does not appear in a normal install,


with the w32 loader it doesn't. I think


you might want to use expert mode or just use the Back button, it will
take you to a menu with all installer steps and as far as I recall
switches you to expert mode ;)

Regards,
Andrei


I don't think I'll be able to install with the expert mode...

The expert mode, however, really is for experts. Most of the time, a  
so-called expert mode is usually just a euphemism for more options,  
but the Debian installer expert mode actually requires that the user  
have a decent understanding of the Debian installation process.


For example, after configuring networking and selecting the desired Debian  
repository, users are prompted to decide which installer components they  
would like to download. Many users will have no idea whether they need or  
want to use the esoteric CDROM drivers, EVMS module for  
debian-installer, or if they should load the debconf preseed module.


What other option do I have?


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Re: A smaller iso

2011-07-08 Thread Camaleón
On Fri, 08 Jul 2011 06:46:13 +0530, nikhil jain wrote:

 the 4.4 gb is too big for my internet connection(512kbps) . I am looking
 for something ubuntu-like complete 500mb-2gb debian iso (why not use
 ubuntu? because its buggy buggy buggy)
 
 I want to avoid the net installer ,  because  my slow connection and the
 weird debian installer makes it a royal pain (I have tried it before)

You can download the first CD of the full CD set (~700 MiB).
 
 Most importantly I want the installer to have the option to install the
 bootloader to the partition itself  and not the MBR. when I tried w32
 installer it didn't gave me the option.

Normal ISOs (network/miniISO/CD/DVD...) do have it, al least when using 
the expert install.

Greetings,

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Re: A smaller iso

2011-07-08 Thread Mahesh T Pai
nikhil jain nik.j...@gmail.com writes:

 It's possible the above question does not appear in a normal install,

  with the w32 loader it doesn't. I think

If you are installing from a CD / DVD, simply entering expert when you
boot from the CD will do the trick. 

I do not quite get what you mean by the w32 loader. More than 12 years
since I used M$win for any productive thing. 


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Re: A smaller iso

2011-07-08 Thread Lisi
On Friday 08 July 2011 15:18:28 Mahesh T Pai wrote:
 I do not quite get what you mean by the w32 loader. More than 12 years
 since I used M$win for any productive thing.

Does Nikhil Jain mean the Ubuntu Windows installer?  (Wubi)

Lisi



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