Re: Another flood of spam

[Patter]

On Wed, 09 Jan 2008 12:10:12 +0100, Qubby wrote:
> On Mon, 07 Jan 2008 16:41:36 -0500, Chris Howie wrote:
>
>> Or nobody cares about Ubuntu?  He shoots, he scores!
>
> I might have used Ubuntu but it didn't work on this very old (ne antique)
> box. In fact Debian was the only thing I could get to install, but I think
> I made the right decision, even if it was for the wrong reason :)

(heard elsewhere) Ubuntu: an ancient African word meaning "couldn't
install debian"

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Re: Another flood of spam

[Douglas A. Tutty]

On Wed, Jan 09, 2008 at 11:01:10AM +, Qubby wrote:
> On Mon, 07 Jan 2008 16:41:36 -0500, Chris Howie wrote:
> 
> > Or nobody cares about Ubuntu?  He shoots, he scores!
> 
> I might have used Ubuntu but it didn't work on this very old (ne antique)
> box. In fact Debian was the only thing I could get to install, but I think
> I made the right decision, even if it was for the wrong reason :)
> 

If Debian Etch installs, then its not an antique.  Antiques don't have
48/54 MB of ram and may not have a 486.

An alternative would be OpenBSD which installs on 386 with 24 MB ram
witout tweaking.

Doug.


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Re: Another flood of spam

[s. keeling]

Lesley Binks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> 
>  I have no idea but I wish they could block this stuff.  I have just
>  marked up 103 spam messages and, as a relatively new subscriber, am

Holy crap.  With my homegrown procmail and bogofilter setup, I haven't
seen 103 spam in the past month!

You should dump gmail and do it yourself.


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Re: Another flood of spam

[Paul Cartwright]

On Tue January 8 2008, Brian wrote:
> I should've stated previously, this is on a freeBSD mail server.  At any
> rate, here are the mods I made.  Search the appropriate Linux docs for
> correctness of these.
>
> To local.cf I added
> ok_locales en

I did a google, and you can either put the line there in local.cf ( 
system-wide ) or in user_prefs in $HOME/.spamassassin/user_prefs

>
> To init.pre I added
> # RelayCountry - add metadata for Bayes learning, marking the countries
> # a message was relayed through
> #
> # Note: This requires the IP::Country::Fast Perl module
> #
> loadplugin Mail::SpamAssassin::Plugin::RelayCountry

this file is in /etc/spamassassin . That line is already in the file, but is 
commented out. 

I'll uncomment it, and see what happens.
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Re: Another flood of spam

[Brian]

Paul Cartwright wrote:

On Tue January 8 2008, Brian wrote:
  

I turned on the SA ok_locales function yesterday and loadplugin
Mail::SpamAssassin::Plugin::RelayCountry, these helped somewhat.



would you explain these a little.. is that 2nd line a file entry?
how do you "turn on" ok_locales?

I think I turned off Spamassassin, and switched to bogo.. I forget why, some 
thread on this list I think..


  
I should've stated previously, this is on a freeBSD mail server.  At any 
rate, here are the mods I made.  Search the appropriate Linux docs for 
correctness of these.


To local.cf I added
ok_locales en

To init.pre I added
# RelayCountry - add metadata for Bayes learning, marking the countries
# a message was relayed through
#
# Note: This requires the IP::Country::Fast Perl module
#
loadplugin Mail::SpamAssassin::Plugin::RelayCountry


It isn't getting all of this, but it is catching a lot, ymmv.

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Re: Another flood of spam

[Shane D]

That's good. Now I just have to deal with it on my personal address.

On 1/8/08, Martin Zobel-Helas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On Mon Jan 07, 2008 at 10:51:33 +0100, Jonathan Kaye wrote:
> > I see we have been hit by another flood of spam. Who lowered the
> floodgates?
> > ;-)
>
> Should be fixed by now. See
> http://cord.de/blog/index.php?entry=entry080108-144308
> for more details.
>
> Greetings
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Re: Another flood of spam

[Martin Zobel-Helas]

Hi, 

On Mon Jan 07, 2008 at 10:51:33 +0100, Jonathan Kaye wrote:
> I see we have been hit by another flood of spam. Who lowered the floodgates?
> ;-)

Should be fixed by now. See 
http://cord.de/blog/index.php?entry=entry080108-144308
for more details.

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Re: Another flood of spam

[Paul Cartwright]

On Tue January 8 2008, Brian wrote:
> I turned on the SA ok_locales function yesterday and loadplugin
> Mail::SpamAssassin::Plugin::RelayCountry, these helped somewhat.
>
would you explain these a little.. is that 2nd line a file entry?
how do you "turn on" ok_locales?

I think I turned off Spamassassin, and switched to bogo.. I forget why, some 
thread on this list I think..

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Re: Another flood of spam

[Brian]

Lesley Binks wrote:

On 08/01/2008, Dave Sherohman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  

On Mon, Jan 07, 2008 at 10:51:33AM +0100, Jonathan Kaye wrote:


I see we have been hit by another flood of spam. Who lowered the floodgates?
;-)
  

I've seen a slight increase in spam sent to me directly slipping through
my spamassassin filters, but nothing like the flood coming from
debian-user.  I also recently started using greylisting on my mail
server and suspect that it's helping immensely with the direct spam, but
it can't do anything for stuff that's forwarded by a list.

Does anyone happen to know whether the d-u list server uses greylisting
(and, if not, why not)?




I have no idea but I wish they could block this stuff.  I have just
marked up 103 spam messages and, as a relatively new subscriber, am
wondering whether the cost is worth the benefit.

Regards

L.


  
I turned on the SA ok_locales function yesterday and loadplugin 
Mail::SpamAssassin::Plugin::RelayCountry, these helped somewhat.


Brian


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Re: Another flood of spam

[Chris Howie]

On Jan 8, 2008 8:47 AM, Lesley Binks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I have no idea but I wish they could block this stuff.  I have just
> marked up 103 spam messages and, as a relatively new subscriber, am
> wondering whether the cost is worth the benefit.
>

Nobody would blame you if you unsubscribed until the spam stops.  I
considered doing the same thing but really it doesn't take that much time to
flag the spam, and this is the only list I'm on that seems to be getting hit
this hard (or at least the only list that lets this much through).

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Re: Another flood of spam

[Lesley Binks]

On 08/01/2008, Dave Sherohman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Mon, Jan 07, 2008 at 10:51:33AM +0100, Jonathan Kaye wrote:
> > I see we have been hit by another flood of spam. Who lowered the floodgates?
> > ;-)
>
> I've seen a slight increase in spam sent to me directly slipping through
> my spamassassin filters, but nothing like the flood coming from
> debian-user.  I also recently started using greylisting on my mail
> server and suspect that it's helping immensely with the direct spam, but
> it can't do anything for stuff that's forwarded by a list.
>
> Does anyone happen to know whether the d-u list server uses greylisting
> (and, if not, why not)?
>

I have no idea but I wish they could block this stuff.  I have just
marked up 103 spam messages and, as a relatively new subscriber, am
wondering whether the cost is worth the benefit.

Regards

L.


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Re: Another flood of spam

[Dave Sherohman]

On Mon, Jan 07, 2008 at 10:51:33AM +0100, Jonathan Kaye wrote:
> I see we have been hit by another flood of spam. Who lowered the floodgates?
> ;-)

I've seen a slight increase in spam sent to me directly slipping through
my spamassassin filters, but nothing like the flood coming from
debian-user.  I also recently started using greylisting on my mail
server and suspect that it's helping immensely with the direct spam, but
it can't do anything for stuff that's forwarded by a list.

Does anyone happen to know whether the d-u list server uses greylisting
(and, if not, why not)?

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Re: Another flood of spam

[Dave Sherohman]

On Mon, Jan 07, 2008 at 06:53:17PM -0500, Shane D wrote:
> True, but withouth them having helped us, there would be more of it.
> 
> It's not good, but it is helpful.

Er, waitaminnit.  Let me get this straight.

If there were no spammers, we wouldn't have developed spam filters, and
therefore we would get more spam.

Am I the only one who thinks it sounds a wee bit absurd to suggest that,
in the absence of spam filters, spam would just magically appear out of
the ether(net) even if there weren't spammers sending it?

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Re: Another flood of spam

[Paul Johnson]

On Jan 7, 2008 8:53 PM, Alex Samad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> was wondering if somebody could help with a procmail rule to select email 
> which
> is in a different language (ie allow through english, but not anything else)

I believe spamassassin has language rules, either by default or
readily uncommented into use.

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Re: Another flood of spam

[Alex Samad]

was wondering if somebody could help with a procmail rule to select email which 
is in a different language (ie allow through english, but not anything else)

On Mon, Jan 07, 2008 at 06:53:17PM -0500, Shane D wrote:
> True, but withouth them having helped us, there would be more of it.
> 
> It's not good, but it is helpful.
> 
> And I want to know why they know enough about me to _stop_ sending me
> ads. Where did they get the private information on, well, my private
> information?
> 
> On 1/7/08, David Brodbeck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > On Jan 7, 2008, at 3:32 PM, David wrote:
> >
> > > Douglas A. Tutty wrote:
> > >> In other words, give the list guys a break.  It will likely be
> > >> fixed in
> > >> a day or so.
> > >
> > > Agreed!
> > >
> > > And, I've made the point before, spam is good.
> > > Without it, spam filtering wouldn't evolve.
> >
> > That's like saying "if not for thieves, we wouldn't have developed
> > door locks."  It's true, but it doesn't mean that theft is good.
> >
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Re: Another flood of spam

[Paul Johnson]

On Jan 7, 2008 8:01 PM, David Fox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 1/7/08, Chris Howie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > That's very possible.  I've been furiously flagging things as spam in gmail
> > all morning and others have probably flagged the same messages too, causing
>
> I'm not sure whether or not "mark as spam" in gmail does anything
> other than just sending the
> affected messages to their spam folder.
>
> Anyone know differently?

It does actually have a purpose in life.  From the manual located at
http://mail.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?hl=en&ctx=mail&answer=6602>:

The more spam you mark, the better our system will get at weeding out
those annoying messages. If you or we should happen to goof and mark a
good message as spam, click Not Spam at the top of the message. If you
marked it as spam, you can also click Undo immediately after to
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Re: Another flood of spam

[David Fox]

On 1/7/08, Chris Howie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> That's very possible.  I've been furiously flagging things as spam in gmail
> all morning and others have probably flagged the same messages too, causing

I'm not sure whether or not "mark as spam" in gmail does anything
other than just sending the
affected messages to their spam folder.

Anyone know differently?


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Re: Another flood of spam

[David Brodbeck]

On Jan 7, 2008, at 3:49 PM, David wrote:

Well, we might have to disagree here.
I simply can't equate spam, which is invasive - agreed, with theft/ 
burglary/misappropriation.


People who run large mail servers and have to devote resources to  
processing spam might disagree.  Spammers essentially push the expense  
of delivering their advertising onto everyone else.




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Re: Another flood of spam

[David]

David Brodbeck wrote:


On Jan 7, 2008, at 3:32 PM, David wrote:


Douglas A. Tutty wrote:

In other words, give the list guys a break.  It will likely be fixed in
a day or so.


Agreed!

And, I've made the point before, spam is good.
Without it, spam filtering wouldn't evolve.


That's like saying "if not for thieves, we wouldn't have developed door 
locks."  It's true, but it doesn't mean that theft is good.




Well, we might have to disagree here.
I simply can't equate spam, which is invasive - agreed, with 
theft/burglary/misappropriation.


Different levels of ethic.
Unsolicited advertising = burglary?
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Re: Another flood of spam

[Shane D]

True, but withouth them having helped us, there would be more of it.

It's not good, but it is helpful.

And I want to know why they know enough about me to _stop_ sending me
ads. Where did they get the private information on, well, my private
information?

On 1/7/08, David Brodbeck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> On Jan 7, 2008, at 3:32 PM, David wrote:
>
> > Douglas A. Tutty wrote:
> >> In other words, give the list guys a break.  It will likely be
> >> fixed in
> >> a day or so.
> >
> > Agreed!
> >
> > And, I've made the point before, spam is good.
> > Without it, spam filtering wouldn't evolve.
>
> That's like saying "if not for thieves, we wouldn't have developed
> door locks."  It's true, but it doesn't mean that theft is good.
>
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Re: Another flood of spam

[David Brodbeck]

On Jan 7, 2008, at 3:32 PM, David wrote:


Douglas A. Tutty wrote:
In other words, give the list guys a break.  It will likely be  
fixed in

a day or so.


Agreed!

And, I've made the point before, spam is good.
Without it, spam filtering wouldn't evolve.


That's like saying "if not for thieves, we wouldn't have developed  
door locks."  It's true, but it doesn't mean that theft is good.



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Re: Another flood of spam

[David]

Douglas A. Tutty wrote:


In other words, give the list guys a break.  It will likely be fixed in
a day or so.


Agreed!

And, I've made the point before, spam is good.
Without it, spam filtering wouldn't evolve.

You can draw the parallel with the body's defensive system being 
continually conditioned by a never ending stream of pathogens.


Removing yourself too far from the environment creates weakness.

Spam is our friend.
One of the many conditioning agents which are helping us to create a 
system more suited to survive in the environment than others.


So, smile at all those viagra ads.
In time, the advertisers will require their own product in abundance.

What I would like to do is get my hands on the bloke that told them I've 
only got a little one.

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Re: Another flood of spam

[Julian De Marchi]

Hey Doug,




In other words, give the list guys a break.  It will likely be fixed in
a day or so.


I do not think any one was having a _go_ at the list maintainers. They 
are doing a perfect job. People are just stating there has been an 
influx in spam, not only on this list.



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Re: Another flood of spam

[Douglas A. Tutty]

On Mon, Jan 07, 2008 at 08:50:00PM +0100, Nigel Henry wrote:
 
> I'm getting it on Debian-user, and Debian-user-fr.
> 
> Anyone know how to set up bogofilter on Kmail to filter out spam from
> mailing lists?
> 
> Bogofilter on Kmail is working fine with all the non mailing list
> spam, and 99.5% goes straight to the waste bin. Only the odd unsures.
> 
> At least it's only 419's, and "you've won the lottery" stuff, and none
> of the crude male member extension stuff. "That" does end up straight
> in the wastebin thankfully.

The way I look at it, the best that I could do would be to set up a spam
filter as good as the good people who run Deian lists's spam filter.
Then again, since I've never tried, I couldn't come anywhere close to as
good as they do.  On the other hand, they have to note a loophole (such
as we're experiencing now) then fix the spam filter to remove it without
removing legitimate mails.  I could end up missing legitimate mails
through less testing before implementing it.

In other words, give the list guys a break.  It will likely be fixed in
a day or so.

Doug.


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Re: Another flood of spam

[Nyizsnyik Ferenc]

On Mon, 07 Jan 2008 23:49:05 +0200
Georgi Naplatanov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Chris Howie wrote:
> > On Jan 7, 2008 4:09 PM, Quincy Adams <[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> > > wrote:
> > 
> > Spam here too!
> > 
> > I notice no spam in the Ubuntu users list maybe they have a
> > better filter?
> > 
> > 
> > Or nobody cares about Ubuntu?  He shoots, he scores!  :)
> > 
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> 
> Black list for spammers.
> 
> Today i received more spam than usually and i setup sql based black
> list for my servers. It's email based, because i received spam from
> yahoo.fr too.
> 
 
The other domain is orange.fr that spam arrives frequently from. 

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Re: Another flood of spam

[Georgi Naplatanov]

Chris Howie wrote:
On Jan 7, 2008 4:09 PM, Quincy Adams <[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> wrote:


Spam here too!

I notice no spam in the Ubuntu users list maybe they have a better
filter?


Or nobody cares about Ubuntu?  He shoots, he scores!  :)

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Black list for spammers.

Today i received more spam than usually and i setup sql based black list 
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Re: Another flood of spam

[Vincent Lefevre]

On 2008-01-07 08:10:28 -0500, Curt Howland wrote:
> As much as I do not want to restrict the Debian lists to "subscribers 
> only post", I will not be surprised nor blame the Debian developers 
> if that decision is made.

This could be taken into account in scoring. Moreover, I've noticed
that most spam does not have the list address in the To or Cc header.
Again, this could be taken into account.

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Re: Another flood of spam

[Chris Howie]

On Jan 7, 2008 4:09 PM, Quincy Adams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Spam here too!
>
> I notice no spam in the Ubuntu users list maybe they have a better filter?
>

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Re: Another flood of spam

[Quincy Adams]

Tom Allison wrote:

Don't blame DEBIAN.
I'm getting hit hard from everywhere!!!

phishing and Nigerian is up significantly.
A huge increase from previous months.

On 1/7/08, * Hugo Vanwoerkom* <[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> wrote:


Jonathan Kaye wrote:
 > I see we have been hit by another flood of spam. Who lowered the
floodgates?

Who's in charge of that?

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I notice no spam in the Ubuntu users list maybe they have a better filter?


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Re: Another flood of spam

[Paul Johnson]

On Jan 7, 2008 11:11 AM, Andrei Popescu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Mon, Jan 07, 2008 at 10:51:33AM +0100, Jonathan Kaye wrote:
> > I see we have been hit by another flood of spam. Who lowered the floodgates?
> > ;-)
> > Jonathan
>
> What I find funny is that three or four of them have a [SPAM] tag in the
> subject. Are the spammers becoming better nettizens?

More likely they're not quite hitting the rejection threshold on
l.d.o's spamassassin or they're hitting the tagging threshold on their
smarthost, or they're failing the SPF check and getting tagged for
that (though I'm willing to argue failing SPF is reasonable grounds
for rejection).

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Re: Another flood of spam

[Nigel Henry]

On Monday 07 January 2008 18:51, joseph lockhart wrote:
> > Don't blame DEBIAN.
> > I'm getting hit hard from everywhere!!!
> >
> > phishing and Nigerian is up significantly.
> > A huge increase from previous months.
> >
> > On 1/7/08, Hugo Vanwoerkom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >
> > wrote:
> > > Jonathan Kaye wrote:
> > > > I see we have been hit by another flood of spam.
> >
> > Who lowered the
> >
> > > floodgates?
> > >
> > > Who's in charge of that?
> > >
> > > Hugo
>
> don't know, i'm getting it here from debian-user and
> debian-cd, not getting spam from debian-boot and
> debian-devel, and nothing from kde-linux,
> kubuntu-user, fluxbox-devel, fluxbox-user so your
> guess is as good as mine
>
> jwlockhart


I'm getting it on Debian-user, and Debian-user-fr.

Anyone know how to set up bogofilter on Kmail to filter out spam from mailing 
lists?

Bogofilter on Kmail is working fine with all the non mailing list spam, and 
99.5% goes straight to the waste bin. Only the odd unsures.

At least it's only 419's, and "you've won the lottery" stuff, and none of the 
crude male member extension stuff. "That" does end up straight in the 
wastebin thankfully.

Nigel.


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Re: Another flood of spam

[Andrei Popescu]

On Mon, Jan 07, 2008 at 10:51:33AM +0100, Jonathan Kaye wrote:
> I see we have been hit by another flood of spam. Who lowered the floodgates?
> ;-)
> Jonathan

What I find funny is that three or four of them have a [SPAM] tag in the 
subject. Are the spammers becoming better nettizens?

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Re: Another flood of spam

[Lesley Binks]

On 07/01/2008, joseph lockhart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > Don't blame DEBIAN.
> > I'm getting hit hard from everywhere!!!
> >
> > phishing and Nigerian is up significantly.
> > A huge increase from previous months.
> >
> > On 1/7/08, Hugo Vanwoerkom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Jonathan Kaye wrote:
> > > > I see we have been hit by another flood of spam.
> > Who lowered the
> > > floodgates?
> > >
> > > Who's in charge of that?
> > >
> > > Hugo
> > >
> don't know, i'm getting it here from debian-user and
> debian-cd, not getting spam from debian-boot and
> debian-devel, and nothing from kde-linux,
> kubuntu-user, fluxbox-devel, fluxbox-user so your
> guess is as good as mine
>
> jwlockhart
>
>
I've marked about 170 emails as spam today and I only use this email
to subscribe to some debian lists.

Regards

L.


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Re: Another flood of spam

[joseph lockhart]

> Don't blame DEBIAN.
> I'm getting hit hard from everywhere!!!
> 
> phishing and Nigerian is up significantly.
> A huge increase from previous months.
> 
> On 1/7/08, Hugo Vanwoerkom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> >
> > Jonathan Kaye wrote:
> > > I see we have been hit by another flood of spam.
> Who lowered the
> > floodgates?
> >
> > Who's in charge of that?
> >
> > Hugo
> >
don't know, i'm getting it here from debian-user and
debian-cd, not getting spam from debian-boot and
debian-devel, and nothing from kde-linux,
kubuntu-user, fluxbox-devel, fluxbox-user so your
guess is as good as mine

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Re: Another flood of spam

[Shane D]

Yup. I'm even marking the stuff from this list, too... WooHoo! Saving
the spam from the rest of the world.

On 1/7/08, Chris Howie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Jan 7, 2008 8:14 AM, Qubby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > I haven't seen anything in my Gmail inbox. Maybe Google zapped it before I
> > checked my mail account?
> >
>
> That's very possible.  I've been furiously flagging things as spam in gmail
> all morning and others have probably flagged the same messages too, causing
> gmail to retroactively classify them as spam for you.  (Maybe, not sure if
> that's how their filter works, but it'd be cool.)
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Re: Another flood of spam

[Chris Howie]

On Jan 7, 2008 8:14 AM, Qubby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I haven't seen anything in my Gmail inbox. Maybe Google zapped it before I
> checked my mail account?
>

That's very possible.  I've been furiously flagging things as spam in gmail
all morning and others have probably flagged the same messages too, causing
gmail to retroactively classify them as spam for you.  (Maybe, not sure if
that's how their filter works, but it'd be cool.)

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Re: Another flood of spam

[steef]

Curt Howland wrote:

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On Monday 07 January 2008, "Shane D" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> was heard 
to say:
  

I randomly started getting a lot of it that hit my inbox last
night, too. About the same time. Very weird.



Not strange at all.

We all know there are a relative few large-scale spammers who send a 
large percentage of the spam, I'm not surprised when this mailing 
list happens to make it onto one of their lists.


Each time the spammers find another way around the spam filters, the 
list gets a flood. The filters get updated, the flood slows, until 
the next time the spammers find a way around those filters, and so 
on.


As much as I do not want to restrict the Debian lists to "subscribers 
only post", I will not be surprised nor blame the Debian developers 
if that decision is made.


Heck, even the "subscribers only may post" mailing lists I'm on get 
spammed once in a while, the only lists that have so far 
remained "safe" are the ones where a moderator has to approve all 
subscriptions. Anyone here want that? Didn't think so.


Curt-


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hi curt,

IMO you are right. this spamflood is, like those before, annoying but bearable. 
at debian nobody is -given the mailinglists-policies - to blame.

reg.,

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Re: Another flood of spam

[Curt Howland]

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On Monday 07 January 2008, "Shane D" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> was heard 
to say:
> I randomly started getting a lot of it that hit my inbox last
> night, too. About the same time. Very weird.

Not strange at all.

We all know there are a relative few large-scale spammers who send a 
large percentage of the spam, I'm not surprised when this mailing 
list happens to make it onto one of their lists.

Each time the spammers find another way around the spam filters, the 
list gets a flood. The filters get updated, the flood slows, until 
the next time the spammers find a way around those filters, and so 
on.

As much as I do not want to restrict the Debian lists to "subscribers 
only post", I will not be surprised nor blame the Debian developers 
if that decision is made.

Heck, even the "subscribers only may post" mailing lists I'm on get 
spammed once in a while, the only lists that have so far 
remained "safe" are the ones where a moderator has to approve all 
subscriptions. Anyone here want that? Didn't think so.

Curt-


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Re: Another flood of spam

[Tom Allison]

Don't blame DEBIAN.
I'm getting hit hard from everywhere!!!

phishing and Nigerian is up significantly.
A huge increase from previous months.

On 1/7/08, Hugo Vanwoerkom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Jonathan Kaye wrote:
> > I see we have been hit by another flood of spam. Who lowered the
> floodgates?
>
> Who's in charge of that?
>
> Hugo
>
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Re: Another flood of spam

[Hugo Vanwoerkom]

Jonathan Kaye wrote:

I see we have been hit by another flood of spam. Who lowered the floodgates?


Who's in charge of that?

Hugo


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Re: Another flood of spam

[Shane D]

I know! But it doesn't look like the advertisements for
[insertnameofillegalprescriptiondrughere], it's just like e-bay and
credit and "I won [insertlargesumofmoneyhere]!"

On 1/7/08, Julian De Marchi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Shane D wrote:
> > I randomly started getting a lot of it that hit my inbox last night,
> > too. About the same time. Very weird.
> >
> > And the gMail blocker usually gets stuff. I've had almost all of it to my
> inbox!
>
> I to can report the same issue.
>
> Might be me, but still weird.
>
> Julian
>
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Re: Another flood of spam

[Julian De Marchi]

Shane D wrote:

I randomly started getting a lot of it that hit my inbox last night,
too. About the same time. Very weird.

And the gMail blocker usually gets stuff. I've had almost all of it to my inbox!


I to can report the same issue.

Might be me, but still weird.

Julian


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Re: Another flood of spam

[Shane D]

I randomly started getting a lot of it that hit my inbox last night,
too. About the same time. Very weird.

And the gMail blocker usually gets stuff. I've had almost all of it to my inbox!

On 1/7/08, Jonathan Kaye <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I see we have been hit by another flood of spam. Who lowered the floodgates?
> ;-)
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