Re: Anyone using Debian on notebook?
[This message has also been posted to linux.debian.user.] In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Michael Pobega wrote: > On Mon, Dec 10, 2007 at 04:21:06PM +, Andr=E9 C=E9sar de S=E1 wrote: >> I've been using Debian on my Dell Latitude D520. >>=20 >> Everything is working almost properly.. I'm just having problems with >> - USB mouse(only works if I disable touchpad) >> - Intel Wireless system(simply can't install IPW3945) > For the ipw3945, enable the contrib and non-free reposotories in your > sources.list and do "apt-get install firmware-ipw3945 ipw3945d > ipw3945-modules-`uname -r`". I recently built an external USB drive Debian Etch for a friend's Compaq Presario 1500. Nice 1440x1024 display. It's too old to boot USB and I wasn't allowed to touch the internal drive, so had to make a syslinux CD for booting. Cardbus slot works with Orinoco Silver (Lucent Hermes 1) wifi but not with known good hardware modems from 3Com/Megahertz and Best Data. Hotplug/udev sees the card but we can't find the serial ports on it. What do you use for that? cu -l/dev/ttyS? gives unhelpful and misleading errors. (line in use, busy, no such device, all at once.) KPPP "can't initialize" the modem. There's a Connexant soft modem on an internal mini-PCI card. There's no serial port on the back panel but Linux thinks there's a ttyS0 there. My friend will be stuck on MS-Windows until we solve this. I have limited access to the machine because she uses it all the time. Will try again after xmas. Maybe spring for the commercial Connexant driver. So you never know what's gonna work on J. Random Laptop. Cameron -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Anyone using Debian on notebook?
On Dec 18, 2:50 pm, "Manu Hack" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Dec 18, 2007 11:06 AM, Ivan Savcic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > On Dec 16, 2007 5:50 AM, js <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Thank you all! > > > > Conclusion: > > > > Pros: > > > - It's Debian! > > > - It's Free! > > > - Great environment for Programming (better than ssh to linux development > > > style) > > > - More open source softwares support > > > > Cons: > > > - might harder to get your devices working. wifi, printer, dual > > > display, iPod etc. > > > - lost lots of OSX goodies (beautiful fonts, expose, widgets, > > > spotlight, sleep mode etc.) > > > - lost vendor's support > > > - not bleeding edge enough for desktop role (compare to Ubuntu) > > how much better is Ubuntu compared with Sid? Recently I have a hard > time trying to install Debian-amd64 on a Toshiba A215-S7413 (cannot > use the ATI driver to use X, need to use vesa instead, no sound with > hours of googling, decided to stop and take a break before going on > working on the wireless card, I couldn't even shutdown properly > http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/msg31118.html). > Before I have already installed Debian-i386 on two Toshiba without > any major problems (I don't use hibernate or suspense so didn't bother > to try). > > Is it because of the amd64 version or just because the combination of > the wireless/sound/video card is not debian-friendly? I should have > been more careful picking the right laptop though (maybe before having > two easy experience on Toshiba laptops made me think all Toshiba > laptops are easy with debian ... ). > > well, just want to share some experience ... > > Manu > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] I'm using lenny on a macbook, and everything works perfectly but the camera. I use s2ram to suspend and works fine most of the time ;-) And just wait kde4 for the goodies... Ivan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Anyone using Debian on notebook?
On Dec 18, 2007 11:06 AM, Ivan Savcic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Dec 16, 2007 5:50 AM, js <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Thank you all! > > > > Conclusion: > > > > Pros: > > - It's Debian! > > - It's Free! > > - Great environment for Programming (better than ssh to linux development > > style) > > - More open source softwares support > > > > Cons: > > - might harder to get your devices working. wifi, printer, dual > > display, iPod etc. > > - lost lots of OSX goodies (beautiful fonts, expose, widgets, > > spotlight, sleep mode etc.) > > - lost vendor's support > > - not bleeding edge enough for desktop role (compare to Ubuntu) how much better is Ubuntu compared with Sid? Recently I have a hard time trying to install Debian-amd64 on a Toshiba A215-S7413 (cannot use the ATI driver to use X, need to use vesa instead, no sound with hours of googling, decided to stop and take a break before going on working on the wireless card, I couldn't even shutdown properly http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/msg31118.html). Before I have already installed Debian-i386 on two Toshiba without any major problems (I don't use hibernate or suspense so didn't bother to try). Is it because of the amd64 version or just because the combination of the wireless/sound/video card is not debian-friendly? I should have been more careful picking the right laptop though (maybe before having two easy experience on Toshiba laptops made me think all Toshiba laptops are easy with debian ... ). well, just want to share some experience ... Manu -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Anyone using Debian on notebook?
On Dec 16, 2007 5:50 AM, js <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Thank you all! > > Conclusion: > > Pros: > - It's Debian! > - It's Free! > - Great environment for Programming (better than ssh to linux development > style) > - More open source softwares support > > Cons: > - might harder to get your devices working. wifi, printer, dual > display, iPod etc. > - lost lots of OSX goodies (beautiful fonts, expose, widgets, > spotlight, sleep mode etc.) > - lost vendor's support - not bleeding edge enough for desktop role (compare to Ubuntu) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Anyone using Debian on notebook?
On Mon, Dec 10, 2007 at 04:21:06PM +, André César de Sá wrote: > I've been using Debian on my Dell Latitude D520. > > Everything is working almost properly.. I'm just having problems with > - USB mouse(only works if I disable touchpad) > - Intel Wireless system(simply can't install IPW3945) > > Everything else is just perfect! > For the ipw3945, enable the contrib and non-free reposotories in your sources.list and do "apt-get install firmware-ipw3945 ipw3945d ipw3945-modules-`uname -r`". -- If programmers deserve to be rewarded for creating innovative programs, by the same token they deserve to be punished if they restrict the use of these programs. - Richard Stallman signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Anyone using Debian on notebook?
On 12/10/07, André César de Sá <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I've been using Debian on my Dell Latitude D520. > > Everything is working almost properly.. I'm just having problems with > - USB mouse(only works if I disable touchpad) > - Intel Wireless system(simply can't install IPW3945) > > Everything else is just perfect! even the suspend/resume functionality ?? i hold a D600 and maybe the ATI video card is the core of each and every problem for suspending ... tell me :) > > > On 10/12/2007, js <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Thank you for the pointer. > > > > I'll try that list. > > > > On Dec 10, 2007 2:44 AM, Michael Marsh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Dec 9, 2007 1:27 AM, js < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > So I'm thinking that I also switch my notebook's OS to Debian. > > > > Before starting this switch, I like to hear some comments from > > > > people who's using Debian on their notebook. > > > > Is there any annoyance? > > > > > > You might want to subscribe to the debian-laptop list, since there > > > will be a lot of laptop-specific traffic there, and you might get more > > > prompt responses to questions. That being said, I've been running > > > Debian sid on my Thinkpad T23 for several years, and I've been very > > > happy with it. Laptops can be a mixed bag, hardware-wise, so it's > > > more likely that you'll run into an issue where there's no Free > > > driver. If you've got all Intel hardware, this shouldn't be a > > > problem. > > > > > > > One thing I worry is battery management > > > > where Apple's MacBook is very good at. > > > > OS X's sleep mode is just works. I love it so much. > > > > > > Check out acpi, acpid, and acpitools. Also powertop, which will help > > > you tweak your system to minimize wakeups-from-idle. You can > > > configure acpid to respond to various events like function keys, > > > close-lid, and open-lid. See /usr/share/doc/acpid. > > > > > > -- > > > Michael A. Marsh > > > http://www.umiacs.umd.edu/~mmarsh > > > http://mamarsh.blogspot.com > > > http://36pints.blogspot.com > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > -- > André César de Sá -- roberto OS: GNU/Linux, Debian
Re: Anyone using Debian on notebook?
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> Pros:
> - It's Debian!
> - It's Free!
> - Great environment for Programming (better than ssh to linux development
> style)
> - More open source softwares support
- Pisses off all the mac users on slashdot
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Re: Anyone using Debian on notebook?
Thank you all! Conclusion: Pros: - It's Debian! - It's Free! - Great environment for Programming (better than ssh to linux development style) - More open source softwares support Cons: - might harder to get your devices working. wifi, printer, dual display, iPod etc. - lost lots of OSX goodies (beautiful fonts, expose, widgets, spotlight, sleep mode etc.) - lost vendor's support On Dec 15, 2007 7:01 AM, Jose Luis Rivas Contreras <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > André César de Sá wrote: > > I've been using Debian on my Dell Latitude D520. > > > > Everything is working almost properly.. I'm just having problems with > > - USB mouse(only works if I disable touchpad) > > - Intel Wireless system(simply can't install IPW3945) > > I got it working easily... Be sure to have installed ipw3945d and have > compiled with module-assistant the ipw3945-source ;-) > > -- > > ghostbar on debian linux 'sid' 2.6.22 x86_64-SMP - #382503 > Weblog: http://ghostbar.ath.cx/ - http://linuxtachira.org > http://debian.org.ve - irc.debian.org #debian-ve #debian-devel-es > San Cristóbal, Venezuela. http://chaslug.org.ve GPG: 0xCACAB118 > >
Re: Anyone using Debian on notebook?
André César de Sá wrote: > I've been using Debian on my Dell Latitude D520. > > Everything is working almost properly.. I'm just having problems with > - USB mouse(only works if I disable touchpad) > - Intel Wireless system(simply can't install IPW3945) I got it working easily... Be sure to have installed ipw3945d and have compiled with module-assistant the ipw3945-source ;-) -- ghostbar on debian linux 'sid' 2.6.22 x86_64-SMP - #382503 Weblog: http://ghostbar.ath.cx/ - http://linuxtachira.org http://debian.org.ve - irc.debian.org #debian-ve #debian-devel-es San Cristóbal, Venezuela. http://chaslug.org.ve GPG: 0xCACAB118 signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: Anyone using Debian on notebook?
Hi Amit, good to know you did not have problems at all. I run Ubuntu on AMD64 platform. Plus a debian etch server on AMD 32bits platform. I just amazed how beauty is it!! iuri On Tue, 2007-12-11 at 23:59 -0800, Amit Uttamchandani wrote: > On Tue, 11 Dec 2007 00:56:10 +0900 > js <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I don't think debian works well on my ppc mac (iBook). > > I would buy thinkpad or something. > > > > > > > > Really? I am running Debian Etch on a PowerBook G4 and have no problems at > all. In fact, I really did not have to hack around or anything. > > -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Anyone using Debian on notebook?
On Tue, 11 Dec 2007 00:56:10 +0900 js <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I don't think debian works well on my ppc mac (iBook). > I would buy thinkpad or something. > > > Really? I am running Debian Etch on a PowerBook G4 and have no problems at all. In fact, I really did not have to hack around or anything. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Anyone using Debian on notebook?
I"m running sid on my LinuxCertified lappy. It came with ubuntu installed, which I wiped and replaced with debian on top of enxrypted lvm. Works great. Everything works but suspend2ram. I could probably make it work, but it's not worth it. I just shut it down. A signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Anyone using Debian on notebook?
Hi! I run debian lenny/sid in my Thinkpad T60 with no problems : wifi works, hdap works, fingerprint reader works, acpi works, and also supend (sometimes :-D) works. Before that i run debian sarge on a Thinkpad R51P and T40 again with no big problems. I had mre problems using Win$ :-D And in one case (Compaq Presario p900) debian sarge was the only linux distro to work good! So, don't worry, the (debian) community is always present to give support! There are also many web site where find a lot of info for any laptop! Good Luck!
Re: Anyone using Debian on notebook?
Hi, I am running Debian on a Macbook. I used the Etch DVDs for install, and I followed the instructions on the wiki entry http://wiki.debian.org/MacBook I think that made most things work for me, including wireless, touchpad and sound. Microphone worked after an alsa upgrade. Everything runs very smoothly(you can configure the keyboard setup in your xorg.conf to match your preferences), and I think the power settings can be set using ACPI as well (not too sure about battery performance enhancement etc.). Regards, -- R.Kumar. "An eye for an eye will only make the entire world blind." -Mohandas Karamchand Gandhi
Re: Anyone using Debian on notebook?
I've been using Debian on my Dell Latitude D520. Everything is working almost properly.. I'm just having problems with - USB mouse(only works if I disable touchpad) - Intel Wireless system(simply can't install IPW3945) Everything else is just perfect! On 10/12/2007, js <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Thank you for the pointer. > > I'll try that list. > > On Dec 10, 2007 2:44 AM, Michael Marsh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Dec 9, 2007 1:27 AM, js <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > So I'm thinking that I also switch my notebook's OS to Debian. > > > Before starting this switch, I like to hear some comments from > > > people who's using Debian on their notebook. > > > Is there any annoyance? > > > > You might want to subscribe to the debian-laptop list, since there > > will be a lot of laptop-specific traffic there, and you might get more > > prompt responses to questions. That being said, I've been running > > Debian sid on my Thinkpad T23 for several years, and I've been very > > happy with it. Laptops can be a mixed bag, hardware-wise, so it's > > more likely that you'll run into an issue where there's no Free > > driver. If you've got all Intel hardware, this shouldn't be a > > problem. > > > > > One thing I worry is battery management > > > where Apple's MacBook is very good at. > > > OS X's sleep mode is just works. I love it so much. > > > > Check out acpi, acpid, and acpitools. Also powertop, which will help > > you tweak your system to minimize wakeups-from-idle. You can > > configure acpid to respond to various events like function keys, > > close-lid, and open-lid. See /usr/share/doc/acpid. > > > > -- > > Michael A. Marsh > > http://www.umiacs.umd.edu/~mmarsh > > http://mamarsh.blogspot.com > > http://36pints.blogspot.com > > > > > > > > -- > > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > -- André César de Sá
Re: Anyone using Debian on notebook?
Thank you for the pointer. I'll try that list. On Dec 10, 2007 2:44 AM, Michael Marsh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Dec 9, 2007 1:27 AM, js <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > So I'm thinking that I also switch my notebook's OS to Debian. > > Before starting this switch, I like to hear some comments from > > people who's using Debian on their notebook. > > Is there any annoyance? > > You might want to subscribe to the debian-laptop list, since there > will be a lot of laptop-specific traffic there, and you might get more > prompt responses to questions. That being said, I've been running > Debian sid on my Thinkpad T23 for several years, and I've been very > happy with it. Laptops can be a mixed bag, hardware-wise, so it's > more likely that you'll run into an issue where there's no Free > driver. If you've got all Intel hardware, this shouldn't be a > problem. > > > One thing I worry is battery management > > where Apple's MacBook is very good at. > > OS X's sleep mode is just works. I love it so much. > > Check out acpi, acpid, and acpitools. Also powertop, which will help > you tweak your system to minimize wakeups-from-idle. You can > configure acpid to respond to various events like function keys, > close-lid, and open-lid. See /usr/share/doc/acpid. > > -- > Michael A. Marsh > http://www.umiacs.umd.edu/~mmarsh > http://mamarsh.blogspot.com > http://36pints.blogspot.com > > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Anyone using Debian on notebook?
I don't think debian works well on my ppc mac (iBook). I would buy thinkpad or something. On Dec 10, 2007 12:43 AM, Daniel Burrows <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sun, Dec 09, 2007 at 03:27:12PM +0900, js <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> was heard to > say: > > So I'm thinking that I also switch my notebook's OS to Debian. > > Before starting this switch, I like to hear some comments from > > people who's using Debian on their notebook. > > Is there any annoyance? > > I could tell you about how well my laptop works for me, but that's > mainly a function of the hardware and my work habits; everything I need > to use regularly works. How Debian works on a laptop depends mainly on > the hardware, so I'd suggest trying to find reports from people who have > installed Debian on an Apple notebook. You might also want to get a > Debian live CD (e.g., from http://debian-live.alioth.debian.org) and try > booting it to get a feeling for your compatibility without having to > move OSX out of the way and install Debian. > > Daniel > > > -- > > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Anyone using Debian on notebook?
Dotan Cohen wrote: Vanilla Debian also installs fine. Wife, suspend, bluetooth, card reader, usb, all work fine. Debian makes your wife work fine? Wow, Debian _is_ the best! -- Kent -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Anyone using Debian on notebook?
On 09/12/2007, js <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi list, > > I've just switched back my dev box from OS X to Debian. > (I was used to be a Debian users but away from Debian for about 3 or > more years.) > OS X is great but Debian is so much better and easier in managing packages. > OS X has some alternative to APT, like Fink and MacPorts > but they are not official and packages is fewer than Debian's. > In addition, Debian provides clearner system, conf is in /etc, binary > is in /usr/bin. > > So I'm thinking that I also switch my notebook's OS to Debian. > Before starting this switch, I like to hear some comments from > people who's using Debian on their notebook. > Is there any annoyance? > > One thing I worry is battery management > where Apple's MacBook is very good at. > OS X's sleep mode is just works. I love it so much. > > Thanks. I've just recently switched to Debian and the Debian-based Ubuntu from Fedora. I find that Debian, and especially Ubuntu, and the easiest to install distros for this problematic Dell Inspiron with it's awful ATI video card and 1680x1050 screen resolution. That said, the latest Ubuntu (7.10) fails whereas it's predecesor (7.04) succeeded. Vanilla Debian also installs fine. Wife, suspend, bluetooth, card reader, usb, all work fine. Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il א-ב-ג-ד-ה-ו-ז-ח-ט-י-ך-כ-ל-ם-מ-ן-נ-ס-ע-ף-פ-ץ-צ-ק-ר-ש-ת A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?
Re: Anyone using Debian on notebook?
On Dec 9, 2007 1:27 AM, js <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > So I'm thinking that I also switch my notebook's OS to Debian. > Before starting this switch, I like to hear some comments from > people who's using Debian on their notebook. > Is there any annoyance? You might want to subscribe to the debian-laptop list, since there will be a lot of laptop-specific traffic there, and you might get more prompt responses to questions. That being said, I've been running Debian sid on my Thinkpad T23 for several years, and I've been very happy with it. Laptops can be a mixed bag, hardware-wise, so it's more likely that you'll run into an issue where there's no Free driver. If you've got all Intel hardware, this shouldn't be a problem. > One thing I worry is battery management > where Apple's MacBook is very good at. > OS X's sleep mode is just works. I love it so much. Check out acpi, acpid, and acpitools. Also powertop, which will help you tweak your system to minimize wakeups-from-idle. You can configure acpid to respond to various events like function keys, close-lid, and open-lid. See /usr/share/doc/acpid. -- Michael A. Marsh http://www.umiacs.umd.edu/~mmarsh http://mamarsh.blogspot.com http://36pints.blogspot.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Anyone using Debian on notebook?
On Sun, Dec 09, 2007 at 03:27:12PM +0900, js <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> was heard to say: > So I'm thinking that I also switch my notebook's OS to Debian. > Before starting this switch, I like to hear some comments from > people who's using Debian on their notebook. > Is there any annoyance? I could tell you about how well my laptop works for me, but that's mainly a function of the hardware and my work habits; everything I need to use regularly works. How Debian works on a laptop depends mainly on the hardware, so I'd suggest trying to find reports from people who have installed Debian on an Apple notebook. You might also want to get a Debian live CD (e.g., from http://debian-live.alioth.debian.org) and try booting it to get a feeling for your compatibility without having to move OSX out of the way and install Debian. Daniel -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
