Re: Bad mirror error during network installation

2006-12-06 Thread Wayne Topa
Andrew Sackville-West([EMAIL PROTECTED]) is reported to have said:
> On Wed, Dec 06, 2006 at 01:59:17PM -0500, Wayne Topa wrote:
> > Andrew Sackville-West([EMAIL PROTECTED]) is reported to have said:
> > > On Tue, Dec 05, 2006 at 06:56:12PM -0500, Wayne Topa wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > Today  the best one [1], for me, keeps dropping out while I'm 
> > > > upgrading.
> > > > 
> > > > [1] debian.fifi.org
> > > 
> > > 
> > > I use debian.midco.net and it always works great for me. 
> > 
> > VT1 root-3-ETCH:~# fping debian.midco.net
> > debian.midco.net is unreachable
> > 
> > VT1 root-3-ETCH:~# fping http://debian.midco.net
> > http://debian.midco.net address not found
> 
> 
> sounds like you have bigger problems...
> 
> can you ping with ip address (debian.midco.net is 24.220.0.37).
> 

I can ping/update/upgrade to 2-3 mirrors anytime. 

Interesting, an fping of debian.midco.net as above, unreachable, but
ping to either debian.midco.net or 24.220.0.37 does respond correctly.

ping -C 5 -q debian.midco.net gets
debian.midco.net : - - - - -  which shows the response time in ms
so it's just slow to respond or busy doing your upgrades.  :-)

ping -c 5 debian.midco.net shows
5 packets transmitted, 5 received, 0% packet loss, time 4015ms
rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 7347.666/7644.392/7845.698/233.619 ms, pipe 5

ping -c 5 debian.fifi.org shows
5 packets transmitted, 3 received, 40% packet loss, time 4013ms
rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 6761.549/7377.889/7721.547/436.780 ms, pipe 5

3 out of 5 returned.  That's may be why I was dropping out.

Increasing the interval between pings from 25ms to 50ms on fifi shows
ping -i50 -c 5 debian.fifi.org
5 packets transmitted, 5 received, 0% packet loss, time 200047ms
rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 7724.749/8273.221/9117.814/508.782 ms

BTW gathered these results while a machine on the LAN is updating from
mirror.kernel.org, and I see it has just completed the update.  :-)

I just checked my sources.list and find that, at one time, I did use
debian.midco.net.  They are commented out now and, as that list must go
back 3-4 years at least, I don't recall why I switched from there.


Looks like a plain fping is not a good indicator of Up/Down.  I will
use fping -C 5 -i50 in the future.

Thanks for the brain kick, Andrew,  I'm forgetting more and more lately
and a good prod is always welcomed, here.  After running debian for so
long, 13 years now, I sometime forget that there are so many ways to
'skin the cat' with Unix/Linux that I shouldn't stop with just one
test.

This was fun!  I enjoyed the exercise, thanks!

Wayne

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Re: Bad mirror error during network installation

2006-12-06 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Wed, Dec 06, 2006 at 01:59:17PM -0500, Wayne Topa wrote:
> Andrew Sackville-West([EMAIL PROTECTED]) is reported to have said:
> > On Tue, Dec 05, 2006 at 06:56:12PM -0500, Wayne Topa wrote:
> > > 
> > > Today  the best one [1], for me, keeps dropping out while I'm 
> > > upgraiding.
> > > 
> > > [1] debian.fifi.org
> > 
> > 
> > I use debian.midco.net and it always works great for me. 
> 
> VT1 root-3-ETCH:~# fping debian.midco.net
> debian.midco.net is unreachable
> 
> VT1 root-3-ETCH:~# fping http://debian.midco.net
> http://debian.midco.net address not found


sounds like you have bigger problems...

can you ping with ip address (debian.midco.net is 24.220.0.37).

can you ping anything? 

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Re: Bad mirror error during network installation

2006-12-06 Thread Wayne Topa
Andrew Sackville-West([EMAIL PROTECTED]) is reported to have said:
> On Tue, Dec 05, 2006 at 06:56:12PM -0500, Wayne Topa wrote:
> > 
> > Today  the best one [1], for me, keeps dropping out while I'm 
> > upgraiding.
> > 
> > [1] debian.fifi.org
> 
> 
> I use debian.midco.net and it always works great for me. 

VT1 root-3-ETCH:~# fping debian.midco.net
debian.midco.net is unreachable

VT1 root-3-ETCH:~# fping http://debian.midco.net
http://debian.midco.net address not found

:-(

Wayne

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Re: Bad mirror error during network installation

2006-12-05 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Tue, Dec 05, 2006 at 06:56:12PM -0500, Wayne Topa wrote:
> 
> Today  the best one [1], for me, keeps dropping out while I'm 
> upgraiding.
> 
> [1] debian.fifi.org


I use debian.midco.net and it always works great for me. 

check out apt-spy.

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Re: Bad mirror error during network installation

2006-12-05 Thread Wayne Topa
maarten fiege([EMAIL PROTECTED]) is reported to have said:
> LS
> 
> I'm trying to install debian using a network
> installation. Everything works great untill my pc
> searches for a debian mirror. I've tried several
> mirrors included the recommended mirrors and even the
> "official" US mirror, but the the massage bad mirror
> keeps coming up.
> 
> What can be the problem, it doesn't seem likey that
> these are all bad mirrors.

I recently ran into the same problem.  I went looking for a mirror
that would work and found only 5, from the US mirror list, that
worked.

Today  the best one [1], for me, keeps dropping out while I'm 
upgraiding.

[1] debian.fifi.org

Wayne

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Re: Bad mirror error during network installation

2006-12-05 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Tue, Dec 05, 2006 at 11:44:01AM -0800, maarten fiege wrote:
> LS
> 
> I'm trying to install debian using a network
> installation. Everything works great untill my pc
> searches for a debian mirror. I've tried several
> mirrors included the recommended mirrors and even the
> "official" US mirror, but the the massage bad mirror
> keeps coming up.

can you provide the exact error message?

> 
> What can be the problem, it doesn't seem likey that
> these are all bad mirrors.
> 
> Best regards,
> Maarten
> 
> PS Network is found fairly rapid and is reported to be succesfull
> 

though the network claims to be up, you might jump to a vt (alt-f2)
and confirm. I can't recall exactly what commands are available, but
pinging the mirrors to see if you can get to them might highlight any
problems.

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