Re: [solved] Re: Can't boot from pendrive

2015-01-24 Thread Brian
On Sat 24 Jan 2015 at 16:51:20 +, Rodolfo Medina wrote:

> But now, one more question: after using the pendrive for the installation, how
> can I restore it as it was before, to use it to store files?

dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdX count=1

Then partition and put filesystems on the partitions.


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[solved] Re: Can't boot from pendrive

2015-01-24 Thread Rodolfo Medina
Rodolfo Medina  writes:

> Brian  writes:
>
>> On Sat 24 Jan 2015 at 15:41:05 +, Rodolfo Medina wrote:
>>
>>> Brian  writes:
>>> 
>>> > On Sat 24 Jan 2015 at 15:18:28 +, Rodolfo Medina wrote:
>>> >
>>> >> Brian  writes:
>>> >> 
>>> >> > On Sat 24 Jan 2015 at 12:26:02 +, Rodolfo Medina wrote:
>>> >> >
>>> >> >> From:
>>> >> >> 
>>> >> >>  http://www.us.debian.org/CD/netinst/
>>> >> >> 
>>> >> >> I downloaded the file debian-7.8.0-i386-netinst.iso and copied it
>>> >> >> onto a pendrive with:
>>> >> >> 
>>> >> >>  $ dd if=debian-7.8.0-i386-netinst.iso of=/dev/sdc bs=4M; sync
>>> >> 
>>> >> That was actually `sdb1', not `sdc', sorry.
>>> >
>>> > That's not an ok command if you want the stick to be bootable. Try
>>> > /dev/sdb.
>>> 
>>> How do I restore the pendrive?  Now there's no space left, or permissions
>>> are denied.
>>
>> No restoring is needed.
>>
>>dd if=debian-7.8.0-i386-netinst.iso of=/dev/sdX bs=4M; sync
>>
>> will obliterate the drive's contents.
>>
>> Note it is /dev/sdX, not /dev/sdXN. Writing to partition number N will
>> not make the drive bootable.
>
>
> The command
>
> dd if=debian-7.8.0-i386-netinst.iso of=/dev/sdb bs=4M; sync
>
> , if given as a normal user, gets the `permission denied', and, as superuser,
> the complain that there's `no space left' on the device.


Ok, it was `sdd', not `sdb'.  Now I can boot from the pendrive.  The mistake
was to do:

 dd if=debian-7.8.0-i386-netinst.iso of=/dev/sdd1 bs=4M; sync

whereas it must be:

 dd if=debian-7.8.0-i386-netinst.iso of=/dev/sdd bs=4M; sync

Thanks to all.

But now, one more question: after using the pendrive for the installation, how
can I restore it as it was before, to use it to store files?

Thanks,

Rodolfo


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Re: Can't boot from pendrive

2015-01-24 Thread Brian
On Sat 24 Jan 2015 at 16:12:52 +, Rodolfo Medina wrote:

> Brian  writes:
> 
> > No restoring is needed.
> >
> >dd if=debian-7.8.0-i386-netinst.iso of=/dev/sdX bs=4M; sync
> >
> > will obliterate the drive's contents.
> >
> > Note it is /dev/sdX, not /dev/sdXN. Writing to partition number N will
> > not make the drive bootable.
> 
> 
> The command
> 
> dd if=debian-7.8.0-i386-netinst.iso of=/dev/sdb bs=4M; sync
> 
> , if given as a normal user, gets the `permission denied',

That's fine. A user is not allowed to write directly to a disk device.

>and, as superuser,
> the complain that there's `no space left' on the device.

Is the complaint issued *immediately* after the dd command or some time
later? What is the size of the pendrive?

Please try

   cat debian-7.8.0-i386-netinst.iso > /dev/sdb


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Re: Can't boot from pendrive

2015-01-24 Thread Rodolfo Medina
Brian  writes:

> On Sat 24 Jan 2015 at 15:41:05 +, Rodolfo Medina wrote:
>
>> Brian  writes:
>> 
>> > On Sat 24 Jan 2015 at 15:18:28 +, Rodolfo Medina wrote:
>> >
>> >> Brian  writes:
>> >> 
>> >> > On Sat 24 Jan 2015 at 12:26:02 +, Rodolfo Medina wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> From:
>> >> >> 
>> >> >>  http://www.us.debian.org/CD/netinst/
>> >> >> 
>> >> >> I downloaded the file debian-7.8.0-i386-netinst.iso and copied it onto
>> >> >> a pendrive with:
>> >> >> 
>> >> >>  $ dd if=debian-7.8.0-i386-netinst.iso of=/dev/sdc bs=4M; sync
>> >> 
>> >> That was actually `sdb1', not `sdc', sorry.
>> >
>> > That's not an ok command if you want the stick to be bootable. Try
>> > /dev/sdb.
>> 
>> How do I restore the pendrive?  Now there's no space left, or permissions
>> are denied.
>
> No restoring is needed.
>
>dd if=debian-7.8.0-i386-netinst.iso of=/dev/sdX bs=4M; sync
>
> will obliterate the drive's contents.
>
> Note it is /dev/sdX, not /dev/sdXN. Writing to partition number N will
> not make the drive bootable.


The command

dd if=debian-7.8.0-i386-netinst.iso of=/dev/sdb bs=4M; sync

, if given as a normal user, gets the `permission denied', and, as superuser,
the complain that there's `no space left' on the device.

Thanks,

Rodolfo


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Re: Can't boot from pendrive

2015-01-24 Thread mrr

On 24/01/2015 16:10, Brian wrote:

On Sat 24 Jan 2015 at 15:26:19 +0100, mrr wrote:


On 24/01/2015 13:30, Rodolfo Medina wrote:

Hi all.

From:

  http://www.us.debian.org/CD/netinst/

I downloaded the file debian-7.8.0-i386-netinst.iso and copied it onto a
pendrive with:

  $ dd if=debian-7.8.0-i386-netinst.iso of=/dev/sdc bs=4M; sync


If you create a /dev/sdc1 partition a launch the dd on it, does it work?


This cannot work because the boot sector of the drive would not be
written to.




So we have an answer as the OP finally installed the iso on sdb1!

> # fdisk -l debian-7.8.0-i386-netinst.iso
> You must set cylinders.
> You can do this from the extra functions menu.

What does that gives ?

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Re: Can't boot from pendrive

2015-01-24 Thread Brian
On Sat 24 Jan 2015 at 15:41:05 +, Rodolfo Medina wrote:

> Brian  writes:
> 
> > On Sat 24 Jan 2015 at 15:18:28 +, Rodolfo Medina wrote:
> >
> >> Brian  writes:
> >> 
> >> > On Sat 24 Jan 2015 at 12:26:02 +, Rodolfo Medina wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> From:
> >> >> 
> >> >>  http://www.us.debian.org/CD/netinst/
> >> >> 
> >> >> I downloaded the file debian-7.8.0-i386-netinst.iso and copied it onto a
> >> >> pendrive with:
> >> >> 
> >> >>  $ dd if=debian-7.8.0-i386-netinst.iso of=/dev/sdc bs=4M; sync
> >> 
> >> That was actually `sdb1', not `sdc', sorry.
> >
> > That's not an ok command if you want the stick to be bootable. Try
> > /dev/sdb.
> 
> How do I restore the pendrive?  Now there's no space left, or permissions are
> denied.

No restoring is needed.

   dd if=debian-7.8.0-i386-netinst.iso of=/dev/sdX bs=4M; sync

will obliterate the drive's contents.

Note it is /dev/sdX, not /dev/sdXN. Writing to partition number N will
not make the drive bootable.


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Re: Can't boot from pendrive

2015-01-24 Thread Rodolfo Medina
Brian  writes:

> On Sat 24 Jan 2015 at 15:18:28 +, Rodolfo Medina wrote:
>
>> Brian  writes:
>> 
>> > On Sat 24 Jan 2015 at 12:26:02 +, Rodolfo Medina wrote:
>> >
>> >> From:
>> >> 
>> >>  http://www.us.debian.org/CD/netinst/
>> >> 
>> >> I downloaded the file debian-7.8.0-i386-netinst.iso and copied it onto a
>> >> pendrive with:
>> >> 
>> >>  $ dd if=debian-7.8.0-i386-netinst.iso of=/dev/sdc bs=4M; sync
>> 
>> That was actually `sdb1', not `sdc', sorry.
>
> That's not an ok command if you want the stick to be bootable. Try
> /dev/sdb.

How do I restore the pendrive?  Now there's no space left, or permissions are
denied.

Rodolfo


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Re: Can't boot from pendrive

2015-01-24 Thread Brian
On Sat 24 Jan 2015 at 15:18:28 +, Rodolfo Medina wrote:

> Brian  writes:
> 
> > On Sat 24 Jan 2015 at 12:26:02 +, Rodolfo Medina wrote:
> >
> >> From:
> >> 
> >>  http://www.us.debian.org/CD/netinst/
> >> 
> >> I downloaded the file debian-7.8.0-i386-netinst.iso and copied it onto a
> >> pendrive with:
> >> 
> >>  $ dd if=debian-7.8.0-i386-netinst.iso of=/dev/sdc bs=4M; sync
> 
> That was actually `sdb1', not `sdc', sorry.

That's not an ok command if you want the stick to be bootable. Try
/dev/sdb.


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Re: Can't boot from pendrive

2015-01-24 Thread Rodolfo Medina
Brian  writes:

> On Sat 24 Jan 2015 at 12:26:02 +, Rodolfo Medina wrote:
>
>> From:
>> 
>>  http://www.us.debian.org/CD/netinst/
>> 
>> I downloaded the file debian-7.8.0-i386-netinst.iso and copied it onto a
>> pendrive with:
>> 
>>  $ dd if=debian-7.8.0-i386-netinst.iso of=/dev/sdc bs=4M; sync

That was actually `sdb1', not `sdc', sorry.


> That's an ok command.
>
>> , but then can't boot from it even though the BIOS is - apparently -
>> configured so to do that.  Why?
>
> Assuming the machine can boot from USB, check the BIOS settings again.
>
> On a running system, please post the outputs of
>
>fdisk -l debian-7.8.0-i386-netinst.iso
>
> and, after plugging in the pendrive,
>
>fdisk -l /dev/sdX
>
> You'll get "X" from dmesg.


Here is the output:

# fdisk -l debian-7.8.0-i386-netinst.iso 
You must set cylinders.
You can do this from the extra functions menu.

Disk debian-7.8.0-i386-netinst.iso: 0 MB, 0 bytes
64 heads, 32 sectors/track, 0 cylinders
Units = cylinders of 2048 * 512 = 1048576 bytes
Disk identifier: 0x178e0fca

Device Boot  Start End  Blocks   Id  
System
debian-7.8.0-i386-netinst.iso1   *   1 277  283616   17  
Hidden HPFS/NTFS

# fdisk -l /dev/sdb1
You must set cylinders.
You can do this from the extra functions menu.

Disk /dev/sdb1: 0 MB, 0 bytes
64 heads, 32 sectors/track, 0 cylinders
Units = cylinders of 2048 * 512 = 1048576 bytes
Disk identifier: 0x178e0fca

 Device Boot  Start End  Blocks   Id  System
/dev/sdb1p1   *   1 277  283616   17  Hidden HPFS/NTFS


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Re: Can't boot from pendrive

2015-01-24 Thread Brian
On Sat 24 Jan 2015 at 15:26:19 +0100, mrr wrote:

> On 24/01/2015 13:30, Rodolfo Medina wrote:
> >Hi all.
> >
> >From:
> >
> >  http://www.us.debian.org/CD/netinst/
> >
> >I downloaded the file debian-7.8.0-i386-netinst.iso and copied it onto a
> >pendrive with:
> >
> >  $ dd if=debian-7.8.0-i386-netinst.iso of=/dev/sdc bs=4M; sync
> 
> If you create a /dev/sdc1 partition a launch the dd on it, does it work?

This cannot work because the boot sector of the drive would not be
written to.


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Re: Can't boot from pendrive

2015-01-24 Thread mrr

On 24/01/2015 13:30, Rodolfo Medina wrote:

Hi all.

From:

  http://www.us.debian.org/CD/netinst/

I downloaded the file debian-7.8.0-i386-netinst.iso and copied it onto a
pendrive with:

  $ dd if=debian-7.8.0-i386-netinst.iso of=/dev/sdc bs=4M; sync


If you create a /dev/sdc1 partition a launch the dd on it, does it work?



, but then can't boot from it even though the BIOS is - apparently - configured
so to do that.  Why?

Thanks for any help,

Rodolfo





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Re: Can't boot from pendrive

2015-01-24 Thread Siard
Rodolfo Medina wrote:
> From:
> 
>  http://www.us.debian.org/CD/netinst/
> 
> I downloaded the file debian-7.8.0-i386-netinst.iso and copied it
> onto a pendrive with:
> 
>  $ dd if=debian-7.8.0-i386-netinst.iso of=/dev/sdc bs=4M; sync
> 
> , but then can't boot from it even though the BIOS is - apparently -
> configured so to do that.  Why?

Some computers contain buggy BIOS versions. Booting from pendrive did
not work on my previous 32-bit PC either, even though the BIOS was set
to do so. Fortunately, it does on my new 64-bit PC.

If it does not work in your PC (did booting from pendrive _ever_ work
with it?), then there are still a couple of other options you can try,
as described here (section 3.6.2, last two paragraphs):
www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/ch03s06.html.en#boot-dev-select


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Re: Can't boot from pendrive

2015-01-24 Thread Brian
On Sat 24 Jan 2015 at 12:26:02 +, Rodolfo Medina wrote:

> From:
> 
>  http://www.us.debian.org/CD/netinst/
> 
> I downloaded the file debian-7.8.0-i386-netinst.iso and copied it onto a
> pendrive with:
> 
>  $ dd if=debian-7.8.0-i386-netinst.iso of=/dev/sdc bs=4M; sync

That's an ok command.

> , but then can't boot from it even though the BIOS is - apparently - 
> configured
> so to do that.  Why?

Assuming the machine can boot from USB, check the BIOS settings again.

On a running system, please post the outputs of

   fdisk -l debian-7.8.0-i386-netinst.iso

and, after plugging in the pendrive,

   fdisk -l /dev/sdX

You'll get "X" from dmesg.


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