Re: Cannot read newsgroups with new Thunderbird

2022-10-08 Thread Max Nikulin

On 07/10/2022 01:14, piorunz wrote:

On 06/10/2022 00:05, Ralph Katz wrote:


news://news.gmane.io/gmane.linux.debian.user   and replying directly to
debian-user.


Wow! Is this free service?


The story of gmane:

https://lars.ingebrigtsen.no/2020/01/15/news-gmane-org-is-now-news-gmane-io/




Re: Cannot read newsgroups with new Thunderbird

2022-10-07 Thread Curt
On 2022-10-06, piorunz  wrote:
> On 06/10/2022 20:38, Curt wrote:
>
>> server: news.gmane.io
>>
>> newsgroup: gmane.linux.debian.user
>
> It worked! Thanks. Does it support TLS, by any chance? Or
> username/password, to prevent spoofing?

I don't know.

> Can posts be sent from this newsgroup directly to debian list, or its
> read only?

Bidirectional gateway.

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Re: Cannot read newsgroups with new Thunderbird

2022-10-06 Thread piorunz

On 06/10/2022 20:38, Curt wrote:


server: news.gmane.io

newsgroup: gmane.linux.debian.user


It worked! Thanks. Does it support TLS, by any chance? Or
username/password, to prevent spoofing?
Can posts be sent from this newsgroup directly to debian list, or its
read only?

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With kindest regards, Piotr.

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Re: Cannot read newsgroups with new Thunderbird

2022-10-06 Thread Curt
On 2022-10-06, piorunz  wrote:
> On 06/10/2022 00:05, Ralph Katz wrote:
>
>> I'm reading your post on Thunderbird 102.3.0 in bullseye (debian stable)
>> from newsgroup gmane.linux.debian.user at
>> news://news.gmane.io/gmane.linux.debian.user   and replying directly to
>> debian-user.
>
> Wow! Is this free service? So we can actually have debian-user group as
> newsgroup in usenet reader? I went to this page (https://news.gmane.io/)
> but it does not say anything how to use it.

server: news.gmane.io

newsgroup: gmane.linux.debian.user

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Re: Cannot read newsgroups with new Thunderbird

2022-10-06 Thread piorunz

On 06/10/2022 00:05, Ralph Katz wrote:


I'm reading your post on Thunderbird 102.3.0 in bullseye (debian stable)
from newsgroup gmane.linux.debian.user at
news://news.gmane.io/gmane.linux.debian.user   and replying directly to
debian-user.


Wow! Is this free service? So we can actually have debian-user group as
newsgroup in usenet reader? I went to this page (https://news.gmane.io/)
but it does not say anything how to use it.

--
With kindest regards, Piotr.

⢀⣴⠾⠻⢶⣦⠀
⣾⠁⢠⠒⠀⣿⡁ Debian - The universal operating system
⢿⡄⠘⠷⠚⠋⠀ https://www.debian.org/
⠈⠳⣄



Re: Cannot read newsgroups with new Thunderbird

2022-10-06 Thread Max Nikulin

On 05/10/2022 20:08, Miroslav Skoric wrote:
After a recent Thunderbird upgrade in Buster (from version 91-something 
to 101-something, or like), it stopped handling newsgroups properly 
(where the source is News Server (NNTP) on the same machine, and there 
nothing was changed/upgraded).


If you can provide steps to reproduce then it may be reasonable to 
report the issues to https://bugzilla.mozilla.org Likely you will be 
asked to confirm the problem for the latest release or daily build.


A part of NNTP has been reimplemented since Thunderbird-91, I am unsure 
concerning Kamil's suggestion to switch back to the older one. There are 
enough bugs in the latter as well. On the other hand my issues was 
related to network latency or lost packets. In some aspects behavior of 
Thunderbird-102 should be better, but I am not surprised by new bugs.




Re: Cannot read newsgroups with new Thunderbird

2022-10-06 Thread Miroslav Skoric

On 10/6/22 1:05 AM, Ralph Katz wrote:

On 10/5/22 07:08, Miroslav Skoric wrote:
After a recent Thunderbird upgrade in Buster (from version 
91-something to 101-something, or like), it stopped handling 
newsgroups properly (where the source is News Server (NNTP) on the 
same machine, and there nothing was changed/upgraded).


To be precise, Thunderbird now seems downloading new messages from the 
NNTP server, then shows the new number of messages in the folder pane, 
but displays an empty content in the message pane, i.e. Subject and 
From columns are empty, while Date column is filled with 1/1/70 - for 
all news messages that arrived since the Thunderbird upgrade.


Btw, handling personal emails (from the local POP Mail Server) is ok.

Any idea?

Misko


I'm reading your post on Thunderbird 102.3.0 in bullseye (debian stable) 
from newsgroup gmane.linux.debian.user at
news://news.gmane.io/gmane.linux.debian.user   and replying directly to 
debian-user.


The upgrade to Thunderbird 102.3.0 was seamless.  So thunderbird does 
the job for newsgroups, at least in bullseye.


Good luck!

Ralph




I am using buster, not bullseye.



Re: Cannot read newsgroups with new Thunderbird

2022-10-05 Thread Kamil Jońca
Miroslav Skoric  writes:

> After a recent Thunderbird upgrade in Buster (from version
> 91-something to 101-something, or like), it stopped handling
> newsgroups properly (where the source is News Server (NNTP) on the
> same machine, and there nothing was changed/upgraded).
>
> To be precise, Thunderbird now seems downloading new messages from the
> NNTP server, then shows the new number of messages in the folder pane,
> but displays an empty content in the message pane, i.e. Subject and
> From columns are empty, while Date column is filled with 1/1/70 - for
> all news messages that arrived since the Thunderbird upgrade.

https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1788102 ?

You may try to set "mailnews.nntp.jsmodule" to "false"

KJ


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Re: Cannot read newsgroups with new Thunderbird

2022-10-05 Thread Ralph Katz

On 10/5/22 07:08, Miroslav Skoric wrote:
After a recent Thunderbird upgrade in Buster (from version 91-something 
to 101-something, or like), it stopped handling newsgroups properly 
(where the source is News Server (NNTP) on the same machine, and there 
nothing was changed/upgraded).


To be precise, Thunderbird now seems downloading new messages from the 
NNTP server, then shows the new number of messages in the folder pane, 
but displays an empty content in the message pane, i.e. Subject and From 
columns are empty, while Date column is filled with 1/1/70 - for all 
news messages that arrived since the Thunderbird upgrade.


Btw, handling personal emails (from the local POP Mail Server) is ok.

Any idea?

Misko


I'm reading your post on Thunderbird 102.3.0 in bullseye (debian stable) 
from newsgroup gmane.linux.debian.user at
news://news.gmane.io/gmane.linux.debian.user   and replying directly to 
debian-user.


The upgrade to Thunderbird 102.3.0 was seamless.  So thunderbird does 
the job for newsgroups, at least in bullseye.


Good luck!

Ralph