Re: Contact My Secretary
On Sat, May 06, 2006 at 02:28:48PM +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Does anybody know how this scam works? I think this is what you're looking for: http://www.fbi.gov/majcases/fraud/fraudschemes.htm J. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Contact My Secretary
On Sat, 6 May 2006 14:39:52 -0600 Paul E Condon wrote: > > Wikipedia is great for learning the urban folklore about how it > works, but does anybody *know* how it works? I can't figure out what you're asking here. Are you asking if someone reading has been scammed, and can describe how it works? Is there some portion of the fairly detailed description on Wikipedia that you don't buy? > And what is the > success rate? And the income generated? And what law enforcement > agencies, if any, are tracking this activity? Etc. Good lord, did you even *bother* to look at the Wikipedia artice before describing it as above? It includes official quotes from U.S. government officials on reported losses from U.S. citizens, as well as international firms that keep statistics on the scam and its effects in various countries. At the bottom of the page are a ton of links to information sources and organizations dedicated to educating people about the related scams, tracking their effects, etc. -c -- Chris Metzler [EMAIL PROTECTED] (remove "snip-me." to email) "As a child I understood how to give; I have forgotten this grace since I have become civilized." - Chief Luther Standing Bear signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: Contact My Secretary
On 5/6/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Does anybody know how this scam works? There's an amusing account of baiting one of these scammers at http://spl.haxial.net/nigerian-fraud/ -- Michael A. Marsh http://www.umiacs.umd.edu/~mmarsh http://mamarsh.blogspot.com
Re: Contact My Secretary
On Sat, May 06, 2006 at 04:07:36PM -0500, John Hasler wrote: > Paul E Condon writes: > > Wikipedia is great for learning the urban folklore about how it works, > > but does anybody *know* how it works? > > It's bloody well obvious. > > > And what is the success rate? And the income generated? > > Write to the scammers' trade association. I'm sure they publish a slick > brocure chock full of industry statistics. Or perhaps try the Nigerian > ministry of commerce. You are joking, of course. I don't doubt that something about it works for someone. Multilevel marketing is an example of an activity that provides an income for some people, just not the people doing most of the work. Who convinces the perps to part with their money for time on the computer at the internet cafe? Or do the cafe owners collect a percentage of the take? So the perps have no up-front expenses? I doubt it. -- Paul E Condon [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Contact My Secretary
Paul E Condon writes: > Wikipedia is great for learning the urban folklore about how it works, > but does anybody *know* how it works? It's bloody well obvious. > And what is the success rate? And the income generated? Write to the scammers' trade association. I'm sure they publish a slick brocure chock full of industry statistics. Or perhaps try the Nigerian ministry of commerce. -- John Hasler -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Contact My Secretary
On Sat, May 06, 2006 at 04:24:28PM -0400, Chris Metzler wrote: > On Sat, 6 May 2006 14:28:48 +0200 > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >On Sat, May 06, 2006 at 11:50:17AM +0100, John Stumbles wrote: > >> > >> mrs_stellamohamed wrote: > >> >Dear Friend, > >> > >> [snip Nigerian scam] > >> > >> Brilliant - you couldn't make up stuff like this! > >> > >> I don't know which I liked better, "his name is Mrs. Stella Mohamed" > >> or "all the sufferness". > >> > >> I'm sure these folks could make more money as entertainers than from > >> these scams. > > > > Does anybody know how this scam works? > > Google Is Your Friend. > > So Is Wikipedia. > > There are literally hundreds of pages out there describing > how Nigerian/419 scams work. > Wikipedia is great for learning the urban folklore about how it works, but does anybody *know* how it works? And what is the success rate? And the income generated? And what law enforcement agencies, if any, are tracking this activity? Etc. -- Paul E Condon [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Contact My Secretary
On Sat, 6 May 2006 14:28:48 +0200 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >On Sat, May 06, 2006 at 11:50:17AM +0100, John Stumbles wrote: >> >> mrs_stellamohamed wrote: >> >Dear Friend, >> >> [snip Nigerian scam] >> >> Brilliant - you couldn't make up stuff like this! >> >> I don't know which I liked better, "his name is Mrs. Stella Mohamed" >> or "all the sufferness". >> >> I'm sure these folks could make more money as entertainers than from >> these scams. > > Does anybody know how this scam works? Google Is Your Friend. So Is Wikipedia. There are literally hundreds of pages out there describing how Nigerian/419 scams work. -c -- Chris Metzler [EMAIL PROTECTED] (remove "snip-me." to email) "As a child I understood how to give; I have forgotten this grace since I have become civilized." - Chief Luther Standing Bear signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: Contact My Secretary
On Sat, May 06, 2006 at 11:50:17AM +0100, John Stumbles wrote: > > mrs_stellamohamed wrote: > >Dear Friend, > > [snip Nigerian scam] > > Brilliant - you couldn't make up stuff like this! > > I don't know which I liked better, "his name is Mrs. Stella Mohamed" or > "all the sufferness". > > I'm sure these folks could make more money as entertainers than from > these scams. Does anybody know how this scam works? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Contact My Secretary
Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: > But what befuddles the mind, or my mind at least, is: do they actually > get customers to ante up? According to the authorities they take in tens of millions every year. -- John Hasler -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Contact My Secretary
On Sat, May 06, 2006 at 13:10:19 +0100, John Stumbles wrote: > Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: > >Florian Kulzer wrote: > > > >>On Sat, May 06, 2006 at 11:50:17 +0100, John Stumbles wrote: > >> > >>>mrs_stellamohamed wrote: > >>> > Dear Friend, > >>> > >>>[snip Nigerian scam] > >>> > >>>Brilliant - you couldn't make up stuff like this! > >>> > >>>I don't know which I liked better, "his name is Mrs. Stella Mohamed" > >>>or "all the sufferness". > >>> > >>>I'm sure these folks could make more money as entertainers than from > >>>these scams. > >> > >> > >>Apparently they even have conferences about their business model: > >> > >>http://j-walk.com/other/conf/index.htm > >> > > > >But what befuddles the mind, or my mind at least, is: do they actually > >get customers to ante up? > > Dunno, I heard of one where the scammer ended up paying out (not > $130,000,000,000, but > 0). > > Much entertainment here too http://www.ebolamonkeyman.com/ Furthermore, in the interest of a fair and unbiased discussion, let's hear an applause for Nkem Owoh and his hit video "I Go Chop Your Dollar" aka the 419er anthem: http://videos.antville.org/stories/1241274/ (The link to the quicktime video is right below the three screenshots.) -- Regards, Florian -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: Florian Kulzer wrote: On Sat, May 06, 2006 at 11:50:17 +0100, John Stumbles wrote: mrs_stellamohamed wrote: Dear Friend, [snip Nigerian scam] Brilliant - you couldn't make up stuff like this! I don't know which I liked better, "his name is Mrs. Stella Mohamed" or "all the sufferness". I'm sure these folks could make more money as entertainers than from these scams. Apparently they even have conferences about their business model: http://j-walk.com/other/conf/index.htm But what befuddles the mind, or my mind at least, is: do they actually get customers to ante up? Dunno, I heard of one where the scammer ended up paying out (not $130,000,000,000, but > 0). Much entertainment here too http://www.ebolamonkeyman.com/ John Stumbles -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Contact My Secretary
Florian Kulzer wrote: On Sat, May 06, 2006 at 11:50:17 +0100, John Stumbles wrote: mrs_stellamohamed wrote: Dear Friend, [snip Nigerian scam] Brilliant - you couldn't make up stuff like this! I don't know which I liked better, "his name is Mrs. Stella Mohamed" or "all the sufferness". I'm sure these folks could make more money as entertainers than from these scams. Apparently they even have conferences about their business model: http://j-walk.com/other/conf/index.htm But what befuddles the mind, or my mind at least, is: do they actually get customers to ante up? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Contact My Secretary
On Sat, May 06, 2006 at 11:50:17 +0100, John Stumbles wrote: > mrs_stellamohamed wrote: > >Dear Friend, > > [snip Nigerian scam] > > Brilliant - you couldn't make up stuff like this! > > I don't know which I liked better, "his name is Mrs. Stella Mohamed" or > "all the sufferness". > > I'm sure these folks could make more money as entertainers than from > these scams. Apparently they even have conferences about their business model: http://j-walk.com/other/conf/index.htm -- Regards, Florian -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Contact My Secretary
mrs_stellamohamed wrote: Dear Friend, [snip Nigerian scam] Brilliant - you couldn't make up stuff like this! I don't know which I liked better, "his name is Mrs. Stella Mohamed" or "all the sufferness". I'm sure these folks could make more money as entertainers than from these scams. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
