Re: DELL Inspiron 530N

[Tom Goulet]

On 3/24/08, mike <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On 3/22/08, DebianMike <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> >> I have just received a Dell Inspiron 530N pre-installed with Ubuntu. I
> >> am now trying to figure out how to install debian on it.

> The system will "boot" from the CD-Drive but when the kernel takes over
> it doesn't have the driver for this CD-Drive. I have used knoppix, etch
> liveCD and network install cds. I then downloaded the first testing cd
> and the kernel found the cd player. But then it couldn't find the
> network card.

Your system has a SATA CD-ROM drive, according to:
| http://support.dell.com/support/edocs/systems/inspd530/EN/index.htm

I don't know why your Debian Etch network install CD does not detect
your CD-ROM drive.  Is it an older version?

If it is, I recommend downloading a Debian Etch full install CD and
trying that.  Don't worry about the network card for now, I'm sure you
can get it working.

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Re: DELL Inspiron 530N

[mike]

Tom Goulet wrote:

On 3/22/08, DebianMike <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

  

I have just received a Dell Inspiron 530N pre-installed with Ubuntu. I
am now trying to figure out how to install debian on it. When I try to
boot my Debian LiveCD (20070716-07:09) I am getting an error message
similar to :
*"can't access tty; job control turned off"
*does anyone have a clue what this means?



It means you can't hit ctrl+z to put a job in the background.

It's a very minor error message.

Another person suggested that if you want to install Debian you can
use a Debian install CD.  That sounds like a good idea to me too.

Good luck!

Tom

  
Here is what I have figured out so far (i think). 
The system will "boot" from the CD-Drive but when the kernel takes over 
it doesn't have the driver for this CD-Drive.  I have used knoppix, etch 
liveCD and network install cds.  I then downloaded the first testing cd 
and the kernel found the cd player.  But then it couldn't find the 
network card.  I can tell with ubuntu that the driver is e1000-ich9.  
I'm not sure how to tell what driver ubuntu is using for the cd-drive.  
I guess Dell adds these drivers to the Ubuntu dist. because they aren't 
on the CD that they sent.  I sure hope they are on the restore partion .


I guess I am just stuck on the bleeding edge of technology. 
(ubuntu is looking better and better)


Thanks for everyones help and comments!
-Mike


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Re: DELL Inspiron 530N

[Jeff]

DebianMike wrote:

Greetings:
I have just received a Dell Inspiron 530N pre-installed with Ubuntu.  I 
am now trying to figure out how to install debian on it.  When I try to 
boot my Debian LiveCD (20070716-07:09) I am getting an error message 
similar to :

*"can't access tty; job control turned off"
*does anyone have a clue what this means?

Any help you can give me I would appreciate.
Thanks
Mike


Lots of hits on googling the error messages... didn't read enough to see 
any hard-and-fast solutions, though.


Here's one link that has lots of info...


Just out of curiosity, is your boot order "CDROM, Harddisk," or is your 
LiveCD somehow trying to boot through the Grub that's installed on the 
harddisk?


Jeff


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Re: DELL Inspiron 530N

[Douglas A. Tutty]

On Sat, Mar 22, 2008 at 06:11:09PM -0400, Michael Ayers wrote:
>I agree that Ubuntu is a great system. 
>It's just that I have found, the more different systems I use the 
> more I learn about all of them.  I have also tried booting this system 
> with Knoppix 5.1, DSL and Ubuntu 7.10 CD that came with the system.  I 
> am getting similar messages from  all of them. (there is a restore 
> partition on the system that I assume will let me restore everything.  i 
> have not tried it yet) I  am beginning to think  it has something to  do 
> with sata  CD drives.  
> Another reason I would like to get Debian on my new system is I just 
> like Debian.  I like  the distribution and the community.

What if you forget liveCDs and just try booting the install CD.  If that
doesn't work, what about USB-stick?  See the installation manual.

Doug.


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Re: DELL Inspiron 530N

[Michael Ayers]

Damon L. Chesser wrote:

DebianMike wrote:

Greetings:
I have just received a Dell Inspiron 530N pre-installed with Ubuntu.  
I am now trying to figure out how to install debian on it.  When I 
try to boot my Debian LiveCD (20070716-07:09) I am getting an error 
message similar to :

*"can't access tty; job control turned off"
*does anyone have a clue what this means?

Any help you can give me I would appreciate.
Thanks
Mike



I don't know your answer, however there is a Dell mailing list that is 
just about Linux on Dell (Dell supported, not Debian).


http://lists.us.dell.com/mailman/listinfo/linux-desktops

You might want to subscribe and post there.  Debian is very popular on 
Dell laptops, as is (of course) Ubuntu.  They also have Ubuntu scripts 
to keep your bios updated.


I don't know why you want to install Debian on this box, however, you 
might want to consider keeping Ubuntu installed, as Dell certifies it 
works with it.  What ever Ubuntu does, Debian can do and of course, 
vise versa.  Linux is Linux and those two are close relatives.


You stand a very good chance of THE Linux Architect for Dell to 
respond to you.


HTH.

   I agree that Ubuntu is a great system. 
   It's just that I have found, the more different systems I use the 
more I learn about all of them.  I have also tried booting this system 
with Knoppix 5.1, DSL and Ubuntu 7.10 CD that came with the system.  I 
am getting similar messages from  all of them. (there is a restore 
partition on the system that I assume will let me restore everything.  i 
have not tried it yet) I  am beginning to think  it has something to  do 
with sata  CD drives.  
Another reason I would like to get Debian on my new system is I just 
like Debian.  I like  the distribution and the community.

--Mike


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Re: DELL Inspiron 530N

[Damon L. Chesser]

DebianMike wrote:

Greetings:
I have just received a Dell Inspiron 530N pre-installed with Ubuntu.  
I am now trying to figure out how to install debian on it.  When I try 
to boot my Debian LiveCD (20070716-07:09) I am getting an error 
message similar to :

*"can't access tty; job control turned off"
*does anyone have a clue what this means?

Any help you can give me I would appreciate.
Thanks
Mike



I don't know your answer, however there is a Dell mailing list that is 
just about Linux on Dell (Dell supported, not Debian).


http://lists.us.dell.com/mailman/listinfo/linux-desktops

You might want to subscribe and post there.  Debian is very popular on 
Dell laptops, as is (of course) Ubuntu.  They also have Ubuntu scripts 
to keep your bios updated.


I don't know why you want to install Debian on this box, however, you 
might want to consider keeping Ubuntu installed, as Dell certifies it 
works with it.  What ever Ubuntu does, Debian can do and of course, vise 
versa.  Linux is Linux and those two are close relatives.


You stand a very good chance of THE Linux Architect for Dell to respond 
to you.


HTH.

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