Re: Debian's grub doesn't detect Ubuntu

2012-07-04 Thread Tom H
On Mon, Jul 2, 2012 at 10:30 AM, Siard shiems...@kpnplanet.nl wrote:
 Tom H wrote:
 Siard wrote:
 Mika Suomalainen wrote:

 It seems that Debian's grub can only detect Debian and Windows 7,
 but not Ubuntu.

 First make sure that Ubuntu's /boot/grub/grub.cfg contains a
 menuentry for Ubuntu in the section starting with
 ### BEGIN /etc/grub.d/10_linux ###

 os-prober doesn't need /boot/grub/grub.cfg in Ubuntu to exist in
 order to create an entry in the Debian /etc/grub.d/30_os-prober
 section.

 I have Squeeze and Wheezy. I uninstalled Wheezy's grub, but then
 Squeeze's grub did not detect kernel upgrades in Wheezy. After
 reinstalling Wheezy's grub, things worked right again.
 That's why I concluded that Wheezy's /boot/grub/grub.cfg is needed.

This hasn't been my experience with grub2 at all. Just in case, I've
just tested in a VM with two disks one with sid and one with quantal.
sid's grub2 recognized and added quantal when (1) quantal's grub2 was
installed and /boot/grub/grub.cfg existed (it used the kernel
options in grub.cfg), (2) quantal's grub2 was installed and quantal's
/boot/grub/grub.cfg was deleted, (3) quantal's grub* was
uninstalled, (4) quantal's grub* was uninstalled and the first 446 of
quantal's MBR and quantal's bios_boot partition were blanked out with
dd.


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Re: Debian's grub doesn't detect Ubuntu

2012-07-02 Thread Siard
Tom H wrote:
 Siard wrote:
  Mika Suomalainen wrote:
   It seems that Debian's grub can only detect Debian and Windows 7,
   but not Ubuntu.
 
  First make sure that Ubuntu's /boot/grub/grub.cfg contains a
  menuentry for Ubuntu in the section starting with
  ### BEGIN /etc/grub.d/10_linux ###
 
 os-prober doesn't need /boot/grub/grub.cfg in Ubuntu to exist in
 order to create an entry in the Debian /etc/grub.d/30_os-prober
 section.

I have Squeeze and Wheezy.  I uninstalled Wheezy's grub, but then
Squeeze's grub did not detect kernel upgrades in Wheezy.  After
reinstalling Wheezy's grub, things worked right again.
That's why I concluded that Wheezy's /boot/grub/grub.cfg is needed.

 If /boot/grub/grub.cfg exists in Ubuntu, os-prober uses its kernel
 options in the Debian /etc/grub.d/30_os-prober section.

Yep, I once moved Wheezy to another partition.  Wheezy's grub.cfg still
contained the old partition, and Squeeze's os-prober adopted that.
I had to correct the partition in Wheezy's grub.cfg to get it working
right again.


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Re: Debian's grub doesn't detect Ubuntu

2012-07-01 Thread Tom H
On Wed, Jun 27, 2012 at 10:31 AM, Siard shiems...@kpnplanet.nl wrote:
 Mika Suomalainen wrote:

 It seems that Debian's grub can only detect Debian and Windows 7, but
 not Ubuntu.

 First make sure that Ubuntu's /boot/grub/grub.cfg contains a menuentry
 for Ubuntu in the section starting with
 ### BEGIN /etc/grub.d/10_linux ###

os-prober doesn't need /boot/grub/grub.cfg in Ubuntu to exist in
order to create an entry in the Debian /etc/grub.d/30_os-prober
section.

If /boot/grub/grub.cfg exists in Ubuntu, os-prober uses its kernel
options in the Debian /etc/grub.d/30_os-prober section.


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Re: Debian's grub doesn't detect Ubuntu

2012-07-01 Thread Tom H
On Wed, Jun 27, 2012 at 11:35 AM, Helgi Örn Helgason
sacredea...@gmail.com wrote:
 On 27 June 2012 07:37, Mika Suomalainen mika.henrik.mai...@hotmail.com 
 wrote:

 I have three OSes on this computer. They are Debian Sid, Ubuntu Precise
 and Windows 7.

 It seems that Debian's grub can only detect Debian and Windows 7, but
 not Ubuntu.

 I have tried Googling and running update-grub some times, but I haven't
 found anything useful.

 What should I try now?

 Did you mount the Ubuntu partition before running update-grub?
 If not, then try that. Usually that will help.

There's no need to mount the Ubuntu / or /boot partition for
os-prober to detect and add Ubuntu.


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Re: Debian's grub doesn't detect Ubuntu

2012-06-30 Thread John W. Foster
On Thu, 2012-06-28 at 13:51 +0300, Mika Suomalainen wrote: 
 On 27.06.2012 18:35, Helgi Örn Helgason wrote:
  On 27 June 2012 07:37, Mika Suomalainen mika.henrik.mai...@hotmail.com 
  wrote:
   Hi,
  
   I have three OSes on this computer. They are Debian Sid, Ubuntu Precise
   and Windows 7.
  
   It seems that Debian's grub can only detect Debian and Windows 7, but
   not Ubuntu.
  
   I have tried Googling and running update-grub some times, but I haven't
   found anything useful.
  
   What should I try now?
  
  Did you mount the Ubuntu partition before running update-grub?
  If not, then try that. Usually that will help.
 
 Thank you for your reply.
 
 I tried mounting all partitions now and running update-grub after
 reading your email, but it didn't seem to work. I am still seeing only
 Debian and Windows 7 in GRUB.
 

Try running update-grub on the Ubuntu partition. If these are on
partitions on a single disk then make sure that you don't writ this
Ubuntu results to the MBR. You just need to regenerate grub.cfg for
Ubuntu. Then do the same for Debian  but tell grub to write to the MBR.
If these are on separate disks then have the ubuntu update write to the
boot partition on the disk that it is installed on. Then have debian
write to the MBR. I expect that the MBR is on a Windows 7 disk that is
mounted as your start up disk as Win7 does not play well elsewise. If
possible  you have these on separate disks then change the boot
sequrence in you system bios to have your Debian disk as the first boot
disk. I have such a setup. Debian, Ubuntu, Linux Mint, Windows 7 pro in
that order, Each on its own disk.
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[SOLVED] Debian's grub doesn't detect Ubuntu (was: Re: Debian's grub doesn't detect Ubuntu)

2012-06-29 Thread Mika Suomalainen
Hi,

This issue is now solved.

I wondered why Debian's GRUB doesn't detect Ubuntu, but Ubuntu's GRUB
detects Debian at #ubuntu-fi-offtopic on freenode and I got answer that
Debian doesn't have os-prober.

I noticed that that package is available on Debian repositories,
installed it and ran os-prober and update-grub as root and then GRUB
found Ubuntu.



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Re: Debian's grub doesn't detect Ubuntu

2012-06-29 Thread Helgi Örn Helgason
On 28 June 2012 12:51, Mika Suomalainen mika.henrik.mai...@hotmail.com wrote:

 Thank you for your reply.

 I tried mounting all partitions now and running update-grub after
 reading your email, but it didn't seem to work. I am still seeing only
 Debian and Windows 7 in GRUB.

Hmm... Strange, I did this today on a computer with exactly these same
three systems. After a Ubuntu kernel upgrade I booted up debian and
ran update-grub after mounting the Ubuntu partition, like usual it
worked perfectly well.
Where is your Ubuntu /boot, under / or on a seperate partition?

/HÖ


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Re: [SOLVED] Debian's grub doesn't detect Ubuntu (was: Re: Debian's grub doesn't detect Ubuntu)

2012-06-29 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Vi, 29 iun 12, 17:46:06, Mika Suomalainen wrote:
 
 I wondered why Debian's GRUB doesn't detect Ubuntu, but Ubuntu's GRUB
 detects Debian at #ubuntu-fi-offtopic on freenode and I got answer that
 Debian doesn't have os-prober.

I mentioned os-prober in my first message :(
 
 I noticed that that package is available on Debian repositories,
 installed it and ran os-prober and update-grub as root and then GRUB
 found Ubuntu.

os-prober is recommended by grub-common. If you don't install 
recommended packages you should know what your are doing.

Kind regards,
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Re: Debian's grub doesn't detect Ubuntu

2012-06-28 Thread Mika Suomalainen
On 27.06.2012 18:35, Helgi Örn Helgason wrote:
 On 27 June 2012 07:37, Mika Suomalainen mika.henrik.mai...@hotmail.com 
 wrote:
  Hi,
 
  I have three OSes on this computer. They are Debian Sid, Ubuntu Precise
  and Windows 7.
 
  It seems that Debian's grub can only detect Debian and Windows 7, but
  not Ubuntu.
 
  I have tried Googling and running update-grub some times, but I haven't
  found anything useful.
 
  What should I try now?
 
 Did you mount the Ubuntu partition before running update-grub?
 If not, then try that. Usually that will help.

Thank you for your reply.

I tried mounting all partitions now and running update-grub after
reading your email, but it didn't seem to work. I am still seeing only
Debian and Windows 7 in GRUB.

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Re: Debian's grub doesn't detect Ubuntu

2012-06-28 Thread Camaleón
On Wed, 27 Jun 2012 10:37:08 +0300, Mika Suomalainen wrote:

 I have three OSes on this computer. They are Debian Sid, Ubuntu Precise
 and Windows 7.
 
 It seems that Debian's grub can only detect Debian and Windows 7, but
 not Ubuntu.

You have a clever computer ;-P

 I have tried Googling and running update-grub some times, but I haven't
 found anything useful.
 
 What should I try now?

If running update-grub¹ does not do the trick, copy/paste the GRUB 
entry menu you have configured for Ubuntu, if any. If there's still none, 
also tell us so.

¹ Ensure the os-prober feature is enabled in /etc/default/grub, 
variable #GRUB_DISABLE_OS_PROBER=true should be commented out (#).

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Re: Debian's grub doesn't detect Ubuntu

2012-06-27 Thread Keith McKenzie
You could, most likely, enter it by hand into the grub configuration;
 it should then be available on your next reboot.

In /boot/grub/grub.cfg;

### BEGIN /etc/grub.d/40_custom ###
# This file provides an easy way to add custom menu entries.  Simply type the
# menu entries you want to add after this comment.  Be careful not to change
# the 'exec tail' line above.
### END /etc/grub.d/40_custom ###


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Re: Debian's grub doesn't detect Ubuntu

2012-06-27 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Mi, 27 iun 12, 10:37:08, Mika Suomalainen wrote:
 Hi,
 
 I have three OSes on this computer. They are Debian Sid, Ubuntu Precise
 and Windows 7.
 
 It seems that Debian's grub can only detect Debian and Windows 7, but
 not Ubuntu.

I'm sure the developer of os-prober would like to know about this, how 
about filing a bug (if one doesn't exist already)?

Kind regards,
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Re: Debian's grub doesn't detect Ubuntu

2012-06-27 Thread Siard
Mika Suomalainen wrote:
 It seems that Debian's grub can only detect Debian and Windows 7, but
 not Ubuntu.

First make sure that Ubuntu's /boot/grub/grub.cfg contains a menuentry
for Ubuntu in the section starting with
### BEGIN /etc/grub.d/10_linux ###
If not, run update-grub in Ubuntu.

Once it does, run update-grub in Debian.
If Ubuntu still is not detected for some reason, you can always copy
the menuentry from Ubuntu's /boot/grub/grub.cfg to
Debian's /etc/grub.d/40_custom, and run update-grub in Debian once
again.


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Re: Debian's grub doesn't detect Ubuntu

2012-06-27 Thread Helgi Örn Helgason
On 27 June 2012 07:37, Mika Suomalainen mika.henrik.mai...@hotmail.com wrote:
 Hi,

 I have three OSes on this computer. They are Debian Sid, Ubuntu Precise
 and Windows 7.

 It seems that Debian's grub can only detect Debian and Windows 7, but
 not Ubuntu.

 I have tried Googling and running update-grub some times, but I haven't
 found anything useful.

 What should I try now?

Did you mount the Ubuntu partition before running update-grub?
If not, then try that. Usually that will help.

Cheers,
/HÖ


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