Re: Debian 11 bullseye - will it work on 12th gen core i3-12100?
On 2022-04-25 19:16 UTC+0200, Georgi Naplatanov wrote: > Debian 11 was released almost 1 year ago. For new hardware you will need > Debian testing. For Debian 11 (current stable) you'll need second hand > hardware. Or a kernel from backports. There was a discussion on this list recently about how to integrate a backported kernel into the installer. I did not try it out though. -- http://www.cb-fraggle.de
Re: Debian 11 bullseye - will it work on 12th gen core i3-12100?
On 4/25/22 16:45, Dan Ritter wrote: Ram Ramesh wrote: My age old intel NUC with pentium N3700 is sick and needs What kind of "sick"? Not repairable? It randomly freezes and had to be hard rebooted. Tried replacing power supply and RAM and disk (all other are part of the NUC box), but that did not work. Ran various diagnostics that I can get hold of and no issue. If I do not use it/idle, it will not freeze for days. Since you've been inside the box, I expect you cleaned all the dust out -- but is there any chance that the CPU fan has frozen or is otherwise impeded? This really sounds like an overheating problem. -dsr- Earlier, I had not opened enuf to inspect heat sinks/fan. Today I did that and it kind of looked dirty. I cleaned and made sure fan spun readily. I did not take apart the heatsink to check the thermal paste. That looked too risky. Similarly, I did not check if the fan actually runs visually. There is some noise and mild airflow when I turn on. So, it should be working. After all this cleaning, the situation is the same. It dies randomly if I do something (like pause on some video) Only hard boot will work. So, not sure what kind of sickness it has. So, may be it is telling me to replace. Since syslog has nothing, I assume it is not something kernel can catch. Regards Ramesh
Re: Debian 11 bullseye - will it work on 12th gen core i3-12100?
Ram Ramesh wrote: > > > My age old intel NUC with pentium N3700 is sick and needs > > > > What kind of "sick"? Not repairable? > > > It randomly freezes and had to be hard rebooted. Tried replacing power > supply and RAM and disk (all other are part of the NUC box), but that did > not work. Ran various diagnostics that I can get hold of and no issue. If I > do not use it/idle, it will not freeze for days. Since you've been inside the box, I expect you cleaned all the dust out -- but is there any chance that the CPU fan has frozen or is otherwise impeded? This really sounds like an overheating problem. -dsr-
Re: Debian 11 bullseye - will it work on 12th gen core i3-12100?
> My age old intel NUC with pentium N3700 is sick and needs What kind of "sick"? Not repairable? It randomly freezes and had to be hard rebooted. Tried replacing power supply and RAM and disk (all other are part of the NUC box), but that did not work. Ran various diagnostics that I can get hold of and no issue. If I do not use it/idle, it will not freeze for days. Regards Ramesh
Re: Debian 11 bullseye - will it work on 12th gen core i3-12100?
Hi Ramesh, Debian 11 was released almost 1 year ago. For new hardware you will need Debian testing. For Debian 11 (current stable) you'll need second hand hardware. Kind regards Georgi Gorgi, Are you guessing or know this for a fact? What is second hand hardware? 11th gen or 10th gen intel? Sorry I am asking more questions. Thanks for your time. Please answer if you can. Regards Ramesh
Re: Debian 11 bullseye - will it work on 12th gen core i3-12100?
R. Ramesh composed on 2022-04-25 10:46 (UTC-0500): > My age old intel NUC with pentium N3700 is sick and needs What kind of "sick"? Not repairable? > replacement. I am interested in building one based on core i3-12100 cpu. > It has intel UHD 730 per my quick check. Is this CPU/GPU combo fully > supported in debian 11/bullseye? I am looking to run the current setup > as is on new hardware (simply swap the disk from NUC to new build) The i3-12100 was released Q1'22, roughly 2 months ago. You might need a backport kernel, 5.16 or 5.17, to be able to use it in Bullseye. However, UHD 730 became available a year earlier, so should be supported by Bullseye's own kernel. -- Evolution as taught in public schools is, like religion, based on faith, not based on science. Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata
Re: Debian 11 bullseye - will it work on 12th gen core i3-12100?
Do you _really_ need to swap the current disk? If not: put a new disk into new hardware and you only have to copy data over. Ideally NVME or something fast. You may find some use for the old NUC: the only reason I say this particularly is because you installed with BIOS boot and changing that may be as much trouble as a new install. mythtv - debian-multimedia - yours to sort out, I think, but again, you may find it easier to have a spare machine that (sort of) works while you debug the new NUC Hope this helps - with every good wish, as ever, Andy Cater Andy, My question is about compatibility of running debian bullseye on latest hardware. When I tried 10th gen core-i3 with buster, xorg did not work as it needed Linux 5.xx over the default 4.x on buster (at that time). I want to know if such a thing exists with 12th gen CPU. Another question is with legacy boot. I did think about swapping disk out. Suppose I fresh install UEFI bullseye, can I simply add a new partition and copy over old install and update-grub from fresh install to add the old system to menu? Will it boot old copy as is or do I have to convert that in to full UEFI meaning change grub_pc to grub_efi in the old install? I could start with copy of old system with new/fresh UEFI install as that will pick up the old system, if such a cross combo will work. Regards Ramesh
Re: Debian 11 bullseye - will it work on 12th gen core i3-12100?
On 4/25/22 18:46, R. Ramesh wrote: > Hi, > > My age old intel NUC with pentium N3700 is sick and needs replacement. > I am interested in building one based on core i3-12100 cpu. It has intel > UHD 730 per my quick check. Is this CPU/GPU combo fully supported in > debian 11/bullseye? I am looking to run the current setup as is on new > hardware (simply swap the disk from NUC to new build) > > Debian 11 bullseye with default kernel/packages for most part. > Grup_pc legacy BIOS boot. > X org with intel driver (I think) that is currently running on Pentium > N3700/NUC. > mythtv 31/fixes from debian multimedia (I think) > > Do you see any issues I should take care of before transfering the disk > to the new system when I build. Let me know if I should go for older > hardware to avoid any hiccups. > Hi Ramesh, Debian 11 was released almost 1 year ago. For new hardware you will need Debian testing. For Debian 11 (current stable) you'll need second hand hardware. Kind regards Georgi
Re: Debian 11 bullseye - will it work on 12th gen core i3-12100?
On Mon, Apr 25, 2022 at 10:46:05AM -0500, R. Ramesh wrote: > Hi, > > My age old intel NUC with pentium N3700 is sick and needs replacement. I > am interested in building one based on core i3-12100 cpu. It has intel UHD > 730 per my quick check. Is this CPU/GPU combo fully supported in debian > 11/bullseye? I am looking to run the current setup as is on new hardware > (simply swap the disk from NUC to new build) > > Debian 11 bullseye with default kernel/packages for most part. > Grup_pc legacy BIOS boot. > X org with intel driver (I think) that is currently running on Pentium > N3700/NUC. > mythtv 31/fixes from debian multimedia (I think) > > Do you see any issues I should take care of before transfering the disk to > the new system when I build. Let me know if I should go for older hardware > to avoid any hiccups. > > Regards > Ramesh > Do you _really_ need to swap the current disk? If not: put a new disk into new hardware and you only have to copy data over. Ideally NVME or something fast. You may find some use for the old NUC: the only reason I say this particularly is because you installed with BIOS boot and changing that may be as much trouble as a new install. mythtv - debian-multimedia - yours to sort out, I think, but again, you may find it easier to have a spare machine that (sort of) works while you debug the new NUC Hope this helps - with every good wish, as ever, Andy Cater
