Re: Debian 9 rocks, really
On Saturday, March 24, 2018 6:31:11 PM EDT Andre Rodier wrote: > Hello all, > > I have been using Linux since more than 20 years, and Debian Linux since > Potato. I even remember the time when you had to carefully read the > documentation of your monitor to avoid damaging it, by choosing the > wrong frequencies for the X server. > > André Rodier. Hello Andre, I don't know if you are aware, but there is a large group of things which are listed as *something*rocks. A couple of examples: I have used qmailrocks to help setup a mail server, linuxrocks.online is out there (and many others). I just don't want to see anyone getting in trouble by being innocent. Mark
Re: Debian 9 rocks, really
On Mon, Mar 26, 2018 at 10:06:17AM +0200, Mart van de Wege wrote: > Andre Rodier writes: > > > Hello all, > > > > I have been using Linux since more than 20 years, and Debian Linux > > since Potato. > > Same here. I started out on Red Hat 6.2, and discovered Debian when it > was on potato. I've been using some flavour of Debian personally since, > and some flavour of it or RH professionally. > > I love it. It's been great consistently, and 9 really shines. I even > like systemd although I have some reservations about its design (I think > it's a bit over-engineered). > > Debian 9 give me dev tools, and tools to manage service resources better > than ever. It's a lovely base system. > #metoo , in a good way! I started with Debian in 1996 -- the lovely Stephen Early, whom I occasionally see on this list, may have "fond" memories of porting the source code for the 1.3 development kernel onto my machine on floppy disks so he could help me get my brand spanking new ethernet card working! Yeah, probably not that fond memories... In those days I dual-booted Windows and Debian. I was away for a few years after uni and then had a brief affair with SuSE but we don't talk about that in polite company. Came back to Debian when Woody was stable and been running Debian as the only OS on the box ever since. (I still run Windows but only in VMs, very much a minority use case for me now) Over the years I have oscillated between the stable distribution and whatever was testing at the time. Now I run both, stretch on machines that are doing important stuff and buster to see what is coming. As others have said, the combination of the philosophy, the dedication of the team, and the community make this a great way to spend one's computer's time. I love it. Mark
Re: Debian 9 rocks, really
Andre Rodier writes: > Hello all, > > I have been using Linux since more than 20 years, and Debian Linux > since Potato. Same here. I started out on Red Hat 6.2, and discovered Debian when it was on potato. I've been using some flavour of Debian personally since, and some flavour of it or RH professionally. I love it. It's been great consistently, and 9 really shines. I even like systemd although I have some reservations about its design (I think it's a bit over-engineered). Debian 9 give me dev tools, and tools to manage service resources better than ever. It's a lovely base system. Mart -- "We will need a longer wall when the revolution comes." --- AJS, quoting an uncertain source.
Re: Debian 9 rocks, really
On Sat, Mar 24, 2018 at 10:31:11PM +, Andre Rodier wrote: > […] Yeah! I've not come such a long way yet, considering I am only 27 years old, but I have been using Linux systems for 14 years now. Started with SuSE 7.2 (with a short visit to 5.3 for fun), switched to Ubuntu later and the nto Gentoo for a few years, until arriving at Debian many years ago. Watching Debian's development (and contributing to it) is a great joy - while some time ago there were valid reasons for creating Ubuntu, and users had reasons to consider Debian outdated and complicated, all that is gone now. Take a Debian 9 installer (in some cases, maybe the non-free firmware version), and it installs on the most awkward of hardware without complaining. If it doesn't, just fix it, because it gives you everything you need to do so. Most important, Debian is the distribution that kept me satisfied for long enough that I am now a developer (keyring update pending ;)). I lost track of becoming one with Gentoo, because they were cool but did not have good quality assurance, and I los ttrack at SuSE because they had great quality but the community was questionnable (that changed by now, mind you) - Debian has the best of both worlds, a great community, great tools, and QA anddevelopment tools that make it fun to work with and still get respected in enterprise environments. So thank you, Debian! Cheers, Nik signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: Debian 9 rocks, really
On Sat, 24 Mar 2018 22:31:11 + Andre Rodier wrote: > Hello all, > > I have been using Linux since more than 20 years, and Debian Linux > since Potato. I even remember the time when you had to carefully read > the documentation of your monitor to avoid damaging it, by choosing > the wrong frequencies for the X server. > > I am using a lot of computers, from small workstations to big servers > in data centres or in the clouds, like Rackspace, AWS or Google > cloud. If you are a little bit careful with the question asked, and > have a minimum of IT knowledge, the Debian installer is wonderful. It > always give you the control if something goes wrong, for instance by > activating another console. > > The task selection concept is great, for those who want to install > their favourite desktop environment easily. I love the fact that > multiple DE are given, and I can install and try more than one. > > I recently re-discovered preseed, and I really enjoy it as well. > > Thank you for making my life easier, and my work so beneficial. > Debian people are really a great team !!! > Indeed they are, and patient, by and large. Amazing - considering they have to put up with people like me :-) I don't even want to think about having to run my desktop without Debian. - Dan
Re: Debian 9 rocks, really
On Sat, 2018-03-24 at 22:31 +, Andre Rodier wrote: > Hello all, > > > > Thank you for making my life easier, and my work so beneficial. > Debian > people are really a great team !!! > > André Rodier. > I concur. It's come a long way and is treat to use. Forest
Re: Debian 9 rocks, really
Hahahaha -- +1, for me, for what's turning out to be a very entertaining weekend... Introduced to Debian in 2003, stayed on it though 2008, then Ubuntu for a while but defaulting to Debian full time for the past few years A particular moment to send thanks to the community and to these lists, for teaching me more than I could imagine to know about the whole system, from all sorts of interesting nooks and crannies to some of the fundamental design features of a well-maintained distribution. Especially in light of recent events concerning the way the consequences of our seemingly trivial computer use can be manipulated in opaque ways, a deeper commitment to really understanding how some of these systems work is all the more important, and engaging with open systems and a building a responsive community becomes more critical. So yeah -- maybe some haters, but full speed ahead, to Buster and beyond! On 03/24/2018 06:31 PM, Andre Rodier wrote: Hello all, I have been using Linux since more than 20 years, and Debian Linux since Potato. I even remember the time when you had to carefully read the documentation of your monitor to avoid damaging it, by choosing the wrong frequencies for the X server. I am using a lot of computers, from small workstations to big servers in data centres or in the clouds, like Rackspace, AWS or Google cloud. If you are a little bit careful with the question asked, and have a minimum of IT knowledge, the Debian installer is wonderful. It always give you the control if something goes wrong, for instance by activating another console. The task selection concept is great, for those who want to install their favourite desktop environment easily. I love the fact that multiple DE are given, and I can install and try more than one. I recently re-discovered preseed, and I really enjoy it as well. Thank you for making my life easier, and my work so beneficial. Debian people are really a great team !!! André Rodier.
