[solved] Re: Debian won't install via businesscard

2012-07-17 Thread Rodolfo Medina
 On Thu, 12 Jul 2012 08:31:20 +, Rodolfo Medina wrote:

 From:
 
  http://www.us.debian.org/CD/netinst/
 
 I downloaded the file debian-6.0.5-i386-businesscard.iso and burned it
 onto CD, then tried to install Debian on my pc.  Everything went fine
 until the `install the base system' step, when the following error
 message appeared:
 
  Debootstrap Error
  Failed to determine the codename for the release
 
 and it was impossibile to continue.  I also tried copying the iso file onto
 usb pendrive and also tried to install Debian onto another machine but the
 error occurred again and again.  Please help if you can.


On Friday, July 13, 2012 10:50:02 AM UTC, Brian wrote:
 
 Which mirror are you usingi? Did you try more than one?

 The mirror I'm asking about is the one you used when installing from the
 businesscard.iso and which gives the  message

  Debootstrap Error
  Failed to determine the codename for the release


It was not clear to me that a Debian installation via businesscard requires an
internet connection _during_ the installation: in fact, I downloaded
debian-6.0.5-i386-netinst.iso, burned it onto CD and the installation proceeded
until the end without problems.  I apologize to all the listers for my mistake.
But now, please have some even more patience with this doubt of mine: to
connect to internet I normally need `ppp', and to install ppp I need at least a
base system ready: so, how is it possible to have an internet connection during
the installation, i.e. before it is complete??

Thanks
Rodolfo


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Re: [solved] Re: Debian won't install via businesscard

2012-07-17 Thread Brian
On Tue 17 Jul 2012 at 10:13:10 +, Rodolfo Medina wrote:

  On Thu, 12 Jul 2012 08:31:20 +, Rodolfo Medina wrote:
 
 It was not clear to me that a Debian installation via businesscard requires an
 internet connection _during_ the installation: in fact, I downloaded
 debian-6.0.5-i386-netinst.iso, burned it onto CD and the installation 
 proceeded
 until the end without problems.  I apologize to all the listers for my 
 mistake.
 But now, please have some even more patience with this doubt of mine: to
 connect to internet I normally need `ppp', and to install ppp I need at least 
 a
 base system ready: so, how is it possible to have an internet connection 
 during
 the installation, i.e. before it is complete??

It does not look to be possible:

   http://wiki.debian.org/DebianInstaller/FAQ


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Re: [solved] Re: Debian won't install via businesscard

2012-07-17 Thread curt . howland
 On Tue 17 Jul 2012 at 10:13:10 +, Rodolfo Medina wrote:
 gt; It was not clear to me that a Debian installation via businesscard 
 requires an
 gt; internet connection _during_ the installation:

On Tuesday, July 17, 2012 7:40:01 AM UTC-4, Brian wrote:
 It does not look to be possible:
 
http://wiki.debian.org/DebianInstaller/FAQ

It used to work with the businesscard, if you go back to Woody. However, at 
this time the business card install procedure will fail if a network connection 
is not specified.

Which is too bad, I used to use the business card and no network connection in 
order to put a skeleton install in place, and then upgrade directly to Sid for 
a minimum of cruft.

Curt-


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Re: [solved] Re: Debian won't install via businesscard

2012-07-17 Thread Camaleón
On Tue, 17 Jul 2012 10:13:10 +, Rodolfo Medina wrote:

 It was not clear to me that a Debian installation via businesscard
 requires an internet connection _during_ the installation: in fact, I
 downloaded debian-6.0.5-i386-netinst.iso, burned it onto CD and the
 installation proceeded until the end without problems.  

Good :-)

In fact, the requirements for both ISO images are detailed in the link 
you already sent:

http://www.debian.org/CD/netinst/index.en.html

(...) The business card image is smaller than the netinst image to 
fit on business-card sized cds. It does not contain the base system, but 
only the installer: even the base packages need to be downloaded from the 
net.

 I apologize to all the listers for my mistake. 

Don't worry, these things can happen :-)

 But now, please have some even more patience with this doubt of mine:
 to connect to internet I normally need `ppp', and to install ppp I need
 at least a base system ready: so, how is it possible to have an
 internet connection during the installation, i.e. before it is
 complete??

That's also documented in the Installation Guide:

http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/apds05.html.en

Anyway, if you have a slow or unreliable Internet connection, I would 
rather go for the first CD or DVD to avoid any problems.

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Re: [solved] Re: Debian won't install via businesscard

2012-07-17 Thread Brian
On Tue 17 Jul 2012 at 16:28:34 +, Camaleón wrote:

 On Tue, 17 Jul 2012 10:13:10 +, Rodolfo Medina wrote:
 
  But now, please have some even more patience with this doubt of mine:
  to connect to internet I normally need `ppp', and to install ppp I need
  at least a base system ready: so, how is it possible to have an
  internet connection during the installation, i.e. before it is
  complete??
 
 That's also documented in the Installation Guide:
 
 http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/apds05.html.en

I will have to learn to read between the lines of a post. 'ppp' seemed
clear enough, but maybe it is PPPoE.


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Re: [solved] Re: Debian won't install via businesscard

2012-07-17 Thread Camaleón
On Tue, 17 Jul 2012 18:36:26 +0100, Brian wrote:

 On Tue 17 Jul 2012 at 16:28:34 +, Camaleón wrote:
 
 On Tue, 17 Jul 2012 10:13:10 +, Rodolfo Medina wrote:
 
  But now, please have some even more patience with this doubt of mine:
  to connect to internet I normally need `ppp', and to install ppp I
  need at least a base system ready: so, how is it possible to have an
  internet connection during the installation, i.e. before it is
  complete??
 
 That's also documented in the Installation Guide:
 
 http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/apds05.html.en
 
 I will have to learn to read between the lines of a post. 'ppp' seemed
 clear enough, but maybe it is PPPoE.

Uh, yes... I read it too fast :-(

If the user is using a dial-up modem (not an usb dsl device) then, unless 
something has changed, that's not supported:

http://wiki.debian.org/DebianInstaller/FAQ#Q:_How_do_I_use_netinst_over_PPP.3F

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Re: Debian won't install via businesscard

2012-07-13 Thread Rodolfo Medina
Camaleón noela...@gmail.com writes:

 On Thu, 12 Jul 2012 08:31:20 +, Rodolfo Medina wrote:

 From:
 
  http://www.us.debian.org/CD/netinst/
 
 I downloaded the file debian-6.0.5-i386-businesscard.iso and burned it
 onto CD, then tried to install Debian on my pc.  Everything went fine
 until the `install the base system' step, when the following error
 message appeared:
 
  Debootstrap Error
  Failed to determine the codename for the release
 
 and it was impossibile to continue.  I also tried copying the iso file onto
 usb pendrive and also tried to install Debian onto another machine but the
 error occurred again and again.  Please help if you can.

 It can be a problem with the burned image or the ISO itself, then :-?

 Anyway, I recently read that Debian is thinking about dropping the 
 business card installation media, so consider starting to use the mini-CD 
 instead :-)


From debian-boot I got no reply.  I also tried with another iso file:
debian-testing-i386-businesscard.iso, downloaded from

  
http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/daily-builds/daily/current/i386/iso-cd/debian-testing-i386-businesscard.iso

, but the problem occurred again.

Rodolfo


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Re: Debian won't install via businesscard

2012-07-13 Thread Brian
On Fri 13 Jul 2012 at 10:11:50 +, Rodolfo Medina wrote:

 From debian-boot I got no reply.  I also tried with another iso file:
 debian-testing-i386-businesscard.iso, downloaded from
 
   
 http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/daily-builds/daily/current/i386/iso-cd/debian-testing-i386-businesscard.iso
 
 , but the problem occurred again.

Which mirror are you usingi? Did you try more than one?


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Re: Debian won't install via businesscard

2012-07-13 Thread rodolfo . medina
On Friday, July 13, 2012 10:50:02 AM UTC, Brian wrote:
 On Fri 13 Jul 2012 at 10:11:50 +, Rodolfo Medina wrote:
 
 gt; gt;From debian-boot I got no reply.  I also tried with another iso file:
 gt; debian-testing-i386-businesscard.iso, downloaded from
 gt; 
 gt;   
 http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/daily-builds/daily/current/i386/iso-cd/debian-testing-i386-businesscard.iso
 gt; 
 gt; , but the problem occurred again.
 
 Which mirror are you usingi? Did you try more than one?

If you click that link, it is not possible to choose the mirror.  How can I 
change it?
tahnks - rodolfo


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Re: Debian won't install via businesscard

2012-07-13 Thread Brian
On Fri 13 Jul 2012 at 04:23:36 -0700, rodolfo.med...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Friday, July 13, 2012 10:50:02 AM UTC, Brian wrote:
  On Fri 13 Jul 2012 at 10:11:50 +, Rodolfo Medina wrote:
  
  gt; gt;From debian-boot I got no reply.  I also tried with another iso 
  file:
  gt; debian-testing-i386-businesscard.iso, downloaded from
  gt; 
  gt;   
  http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/daily-builds/daily/current/i386/iso-cd/debian-testing-i386-businesscard.iso
  gt; 
  gt; , but the problem occurred again.
  
  Which mirror are you usingi? Did you try more than one?
 
 If you click that link, it is not possible to choose the mirror.  How can I 
 change it?
 tahnks - rodolfo

The mirror I'm asking about is the one you used when installing from the
businesscard.iso and which gives the  message

 Debootstrap Error
 Failed to determine the codename for the release


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Re: Debian won't install via businesscard

2012-07-13 Thread Camaleón
On Fri, 13 Jul 2012 00:14:28 +0100, Brian wrote:

 On Fri 13 Jul 2012 at 01:45:09 +0300, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
 
 On Jo, 12 iul 12, 15:44:28, Camaleón wrote:
  
  Anyway, I recently read that Debian is thinking about dropping the
  business card installation media, so consider starting to use the
  mini-CD instead :-)
 
 Reference please :)

I read it from here:

http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_itempx=MTEzNzA

(...) Below are some of the most interesting notes from the Monday 
session in Managua, Nicaragua concerning the Debian CD for the 7.0 
Wheezy release from DebConf 12. 

(...)

- There's a plan to drop the business card CD images of Debian since 
they're rarely (if ever) used and tested.

 http://lists.debian.org/debian-cd/2012/07/threads.html

Thanks. The thread is this:

http://lists.debian.org/debian-cd/2012/07/msg00067.html

It seems there are many Phoronix readers around...

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Re: Debian won't install via businesscard

2012-07-13 Thread Camaleón
On Fri, 13 Jul 2012 10:11:50 +, Rodolfo Medina wrote:

 Camaleón noela...@gmail.com writes:

(...)

 It can be a problem with the burned image or the ISO itself, then :-?

 Anyway, I recently read that Debian is thinking about dropping the
 business card installation media, so consider starting to use the
 mini-CD instead :-)
 
 
 From debian-boot I got no reply.  I also tried with another iso file:
 debian-testing-i386-businesscard.iso, downloaded from
 
   
 http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/daily-builds/daily/current/i386/iso-cd/debian-testing-i386-businesscard.iso
 
 , but the problem occurred again.

Business ISO images for testing can be even more broken than the ones 
for the stable release ;-(

Anyway, before burning the ISO image into a CD-R (not CD-RW, just in 
case...), did you verify the md5sum and it was fine?

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Re: Debian won't install via businesscard

2012-07-12 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Jo, 12 iul 12, 08:31:20, Rodolfo Medina wrote:
 
  Debootstrap Error
  Failed to determine the codename for the release
 
 and it was impossibile to continue.  I also tried copying the iso file onto 
 usb
 pendrive and also tried to install Debian onto another machine but the error
 occurred again and again.  Please help if you can.

I suspect a temporary glitch in the mirror, thy choosing another one. 
Otherwise contact debian-boot.

Kind regards,
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Re: Debian won't install via businesscard

2012-07-12 Thread Camaleón
On Thu, 12 Jul 2012 08:31:20 +, Rodolfo Medina wrote:

 I couldn't find a solution to my problem on the web.

There's an old wise Latin saying that states Excusatio non-petita, 
accusatio manifesta :-P

 From:
 
  http://www.us.debian.org/CD/netinst/
 
 I downloaded the file debian-6.0.5-i386-businesscard.iso and burned it
 onto CD, then tried to install Debian on my pc.  Everything went fine
 until the `install the base system' step, when the following error
 message appeared:
 
  Debootstrap Error
  Failed to determine the codename for the release
 
 and it was impossibile to continue.  

Can you jump to a terminal (alt+F4?, I never remember) to see more debug 
messages (if any)?

 I also tried copying the iso file onto usb pendrive and also tried to
 install Debian onto another machine but the error occurred again and
 again.  Please help if you can.

It can be a problem with the burned image or the ISO itself, then :-?

Anyway, I recently read that Debian is thinking about dropping the 
business card installation media, so consider starting to use the mini-CD 
instead :-)

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Re: Debian won't install via businesscard

2012-07-12 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Jo, 12 iul 12, 15:44:28, Camaleón wrote:
 
 Anyway, I recently read that Debian is thinking about dropping the 
 business card installation media, so consider starting to use the mini-CD 
 instead :-)

Reference please :)

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Re: Debian won't install via businesscard

2012-07-12 Thread Brian
On Fri 13 Jul 2012 at 01:45:09 +0300, Andrei POPESCU wrote:

 On Jo, 12 iul 12, 15:44:28, Camaleón wrote:
  
  Anyway, I recently read that Debian is thinking about dropping the 
  business card installation media, so consider starting to use the mini-CD 
  instead :-)
 
 Reference please :)

http://lists.debian.org/debian-cd/2012/07/threads.html


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Re: Debian Won't Install

2008-04-06 Thread Brad Rogers
On Sun, 6 Apr 2008 06:47:12 -0700 (PDT)
Bryan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hello Bryan,

 boots with a XP installation CD.  Has anyone seen this before?  IS
 there some other way to install without booting from the CD?

http://goodbye-microsoft.com/

Which downloads a small Windows executable which, when run, will
install Debian over the 'net.

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Re: Debian Won't Install

2008-04-06 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Sun, Apr 06, 2008 at 06:47:12AM -0700, Bryan wrote:
 I downloaded the latest Debin relese(4.0) from Bittorent and burned it
 to  DVD but for some reason it will not boot from the CD.  I don't
 think it is the CD becuase it boots on two other machines I have.  The
 weird thing is this same machine that won't boot with my Debian CD,
 boots with a XP installation CD.  Has anyone seen this before?  IS
 there some other way to install without booting from the CD?

Read the installation-manual from the debian website.  There are a few
reasons and options:

First, double-check the MD5 of the CD that it is burned correctly. 

Since you have the DVD then you have a good chunk of the repository even
if you need to use an alternate boot method.  One way would be to
download and burn the netinst.iso CD, another would be to make the
USB-key install if the box will boot from USB.  If it boots from floppy,
you could boot from that.

Its all in the manual.

Doug.


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