Re: Debian based working distribution

2003-11-16 Thread Otto Wyss
  Since the current Debian sarge installation doesn't work (see
  debian-boot list) and I need an installation fast I'm looking for
  alternatives.
 
 Perhaps this won't work for you, but I did a minimal installation of
 Woody and then did apt-get dist-upgrade (or somesuch) to bring it up
 to -current.
 
I just want to remind you that locales is brocken in woody that it isn't
possible to install it. This is a 2-years old bug (IMO critical) which
never got solved even if I mentioned numerous times.

O. Wyss

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Re: Debian based working distribution

2003-11-16 Thread Colin Watson
On Sun, Nov 16, 2003 at 09:07:41AM +0100, Otto Wyss wrote:
 I just want to remind you that locales is brocken in woody that it isn't
 possible to install it. This is a 2-years old bug (IMO critical) which
 never got solved even if I mentioned numerous times.

Eh? It works for me and AFAIK for everyone else. Please show a
transcript, /etc/apt/sources.list, 'apt-cache show locales', 'apt-cache
show libc6'.

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Re: Debian based working distribution

2003-11-16 Thread csj
On Sat, 15 Nov 2003 11:26:08 -0500,
Alec Berryman wrote:
 
 On Sat, 2003-11-15 at 09:24, Kent West wrote:
  Otto Wyss wrote:
   So far I've tested Knoppix from the newspaper ct (has no
   root access)
  
  sudo will give you root access in Knoppix
 
 You can grab a real root prompt with 'rootme'.

In X the root access is buried somewhere in the menus.  I'm sure
there's a menu item for a root terminal somewhere.  I think the
console will give you instant root access (I don't have a Knoppix
disk at hand.)


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Re: Debian based working distribution

2003-11-15 Thread Aaron Hsu
Have you perhaps tried Debian-stable or testing?

Aaron Hsu

On Saturday, November 15, 2003, at 04:42 AM, Otto Wyss wrote:

Since the current Debian sarge installation doesn't work (see
debian-boot list) and I need an installation fast I'm looking for
alternatives. So far I've tested Knoppix from the newspaper ct (has no
root access), Morphix (doesn't run on my system). Any others?


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Re: Debian based working distribution

2003-11-15 Thread David Palmer.
On Sat, 15 Nov 2003 11:53:24 +0100
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Otto Wyss) wrote:

 Since the current Debian sarge installation doesn't work (see
 debian-boot list) and I need an installation fast I'm looking for
 alternatives. So far I've tested Knoppix from the newspaper ct (has no
 root access), Morphix (doesn't run on my system). Any others?
 
Do a google or alltheweb on Libranet.
Regards,

David.


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Re: Debian based working distribution

2003-11-15 Thread Kent West
Otto Wyss wrote:
So far I've tested Knoppix from the newspaper ct (has no
root access)
sudo will give you root access in Knoppix

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Re: Debian based working distribution

2003-11-15 Thread Ron Johnson
On Sat, 2003-11-15 at 06:04, David Palmer. wrote:
 On Sat, 15 Nov 2003 11:53:24 +0100
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Otto Wyss) wrote:
 
  Since the current Debian sarge installation doesn't work (see
  debian-boot list) and I need an installation fast I'm looking for
  alternatives. So far I've tested Knoppix from the newspaper ct (has no
  root access), Morphix (doesn't run on my system). Any others?
  
 Do a google or alltheweb on Libranet.
 Regards,

That's a good choice.  Also, you could do a minimal Woody install,
then change sources.list to point to sarge, and install what you
want, manually or with something like tasksel.

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Re: Debian based working distribution

2003-11-15 Thread Alec Berryman
On Sat, 2003-11-15 at 09:24, Kent West wrote:
 Otto Wyss wrote:
  So far I've tested Knoppix from the newspaper ct (has no
  root access)
 
 sudo will give you root access in Knoppix

You can grab a real root prompt with 'rootme'.


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Re: Debian based working distribution

2003-11-15 Thread Paul E Condon
On Sat, Nov 15, 2003 at 11:53:24AM +0100, Otto Wyss wrote:
 Since the current Debian sarge installation doesn't work (see
 debian-boot list) and I need an installation fast I'm looking for
 alternatives. So far I've tested Knoppix from the newspaper ct (has no
 root access),  

There is access to root in Knoppix. Don't remember exactly where, but in
one of the menus there is an item 'Root shell' or some such. It opens a
window with shell running as root. Also, Knoppix comes up with read-only
access to your hard disks, once you have found root access, you can change
this to rw. From there you can do just about anything, including installing
a 'proper' Debian dist.

HTH

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Re: Debian based working distribution

2003-11-15 Thread Bob Proulx
Otto Wyss wrote:
 Since the current Debian sarge installation doesn't work (see
 debian-boot list) and I need an installation fast I'm looking for
 alternatives. So far I've tested Knoppix from the newspaper ct (has no
 root access), Morphix (doesn't run on my system). Any others?

The recommended proceedure is to install the released Debian bits.  It
does not appear that you tried the released bits but only the testing
bits.  Obviously in testing things are testing and might not work.

If after you have installed the released bits you want to take your
machine to the bleeding edge them change your /etc/apt/sources.list
from 'stable' to 'testing' or 'unstable'.  It is very easy.

 apt-get update  apt-get dist-upgrade

Note that unstable is today's build.  The weather there changes daily.
Depending upon which parts of the ocean you are traversing that day
things are either great or stormy.  YMMV.

Bob

P.S. s/apt-get/aptitude/g to prevent the ensuing discussion there.


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Re: Debian based working distribution

2003-11-15 Thread Mason Loring Bliss
On Sat, Nov 15, 2003 at 11:42:35AM +0100, Otto Wyss wrote:

 Since the current Debian sarge installation doesn't work (see
 debian-boot list) and I need an installation fast I'm looking for
 alternatives.

Perhaps this won't work for you, but I did a minimal installation of
Woody and then did apt-get dist-upgrade (or somesuch) to bring it up
to -current.

Didn't require too much effort... If you're not going to run a stable
release, I assume that the extra effort won't be an issue.

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